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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 2:22pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 2:23pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
hensben:Does he accept tithe? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 2:25pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
nihilistjnr:Then as a business profit running venture, Should they be exempted from taxation? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:26pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
donstan18:Tithing is not mandatory, it’s optional. Moreover, I’m not sure he receive tithe but seed because people sow into his life due to his preaching. I like his model of spreading the gospel because that’s how Christ did it then. The greatest commission is evangelism of which Jesus was while on earth. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 2:33pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
seankafor: To be honest, that tax argument is a non-starter for so many reasons, the most basic of which being that the church does not produce ang goods and services for commercial purposes, and does not demand payment either, and is completely self-funded using generous donations from members of the congregation. I'm sure that the church-owned business ventures like the schools, hospitality, and agricultural units are individual legal entities who are meeting their tax obligations, but trying to tax the church itself? fogerrit. 10 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 2:35pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
nihilistjnr:okay sir |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 2:39pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 2:40pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
donstan18: Big men wont go to a dead pastor like that to give their tithe - How would they expect the Bishop to know who they are? Oyedepo's name carries considerable clout in that country, so you'll find it's the big boys who are asslicking him madly. How do you think Laralek, the guy builiding all the roads in Lagos state under Ambode got the contract to the build the new 100k seater auditorium for winners? That pastor you saw in the news would have been given a quota to penetrate his area and convert all the souls in the area to the brand. That's literally what he's being paid for, and it's why the church would have invested heavily in the area. If he wanted a quota-less commission, he should start his own brand and move around in sackcloth with gorimapa like prohet Elijah. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:53pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Amoto94: Why we no see am for Euros? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 3:05pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
nihilistjnr:There are levels to riches and influence in Nigeria. Just like you said some big boiz are asslicking Oyedepo, he’s also asslicking a lot of reputable politicians and billionaires in Nigeria. He doesn’t want to step on toes to avoid being fvcked up, a real man of God is suppose to preach against bad politicians and hope on God for protection or his olive oil, but he does otherwise. Just last week, he said he can’t be friends with anyone who doesn’t believe Nigeria will get better, this was him indirectly hyping the politicians that they’ll fix the country soon. All na format, saying Nigeria will get better means you have hopes on our leaders, having hope on our leaders is nothing but asslicking and eye-service. He’s an asslicker too. And to the pastor that got sacked, let’s just assume he was on salary with the agreement of meeting a particular target, be it financial targets or otherwise. To the best of my knowledge, anything that has to do with paying of workers and expecting financial productivity and growth is nothing but business. Now the question is; why do people find it difficult to agree that churches in Nigeria are profit business ventures and firm? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Taguchi: 3:06pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: true talk bro winners chapel pay salary and still handle the accomodation expenses of all their fulltime pastors....result is expected |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:06pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Segedinho $250k up for grab, if you can proof JuJu or jazz is real. This is your chance to make show the world touch and chop grass ![]() ![]() https://twitter.com/oluafolabi/status/1417047363835764741?s=20 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 3:08pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Taguchi:Result of what exactly? ![]() Why cutting corners? Tell us the result you mean? Tithes from members? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Taguchi: 3:10pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
donstan18: not holding brief for anyone, but this your logic no follow 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 3:13pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Taguchi:Nigeria will get better? ![]() You can only say this if you want the leaders to keep ruling, for you to want these politicians to keep ruling, it’s either you are benefiting from them or you are scared of voicing out against them. Kindly choose the one you feel Oyedepo falls into. ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 3:13pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
hensben:His channel? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 3:17pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
donstan18:mount is a parasite, he is blocking glorious scenes at Stamford bridge There was this clip of havertz and ziyech, exchanging passes across the field while moving to the post Sweet football, the Intelligence of our forward line no need barbaric people like mount with him activity football Guy just dey disrupt play, no wonder tuchel pushed him into deeper roles, get the retardddd as far away from the musical instrument as possible See stats ![]() 3 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 3:27pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Havertz10:There’s nothing you’ll say now that you haven’t said before, be creative and stop repeating same lines. The fact remains that you are different from the voice behind the clip you drop, stop acting like you reason alike. You don’t... ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Taguchi: 3:32pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
donstan18: ![]() ![]() ![]() i have a winners pastor as a friend..i know for sure that winners engage in almost daily activities of evangelism...and then their pastors all have seasonal operations they engage in with which they are apraised by, yearly. you dont expect them to clap for a pastor that was sent to a church that had 50 people in attendance only for the attendance to reduces to 30 after 3 yrs..or a pastor that recieves 50,000 and then generate 15,000 business or no business, make the guy carry him own annointing go open him own business and brainwash people too 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 3:36pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Taguchi:Bros you go sabi cut grass for your secondary school days, the way you cut corners while passing your message is legendary. ![]() Why not come out straight and clean, Church Na business or not? ![]() 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Taguchi: 3:38pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
donstan18: nigeria will get better does not mean nigeria is good...it is an expression of hope and not a vote of confidence on the leadership there is a topic on front page today where oyedepo lambasted the current administration while claiming that he warned nigerians in 2015 forget joke that man get mad influence...and it aint seasonal unlike that of a political office holder, he might have his allies in the political space; but he sure does not asslick nobody 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 3:39pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
donstan18: Oyedepo doesn't need to asslick anybody. The guy has built entire cities in Ota and Omu-aran, which are self-sufficient in every sense of the word - I'm talking electricity, water, healthcare, agriculture, security etc. I dont think you know who that don is. Regarding your question, it's because a church doesn't sell anything. Of course it operates like a business, and the most sucessful ones are designed to be extremely profitable, but what do members of the congregation buy? What do they receive in return? Where is their receipt? What is the return policy? People who willfully donate offerings too the church do not expect goods or services from the church in return, and so for them Church is not a business. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 3:40pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Taguchi:
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Taguchi: 3:41pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
donstan18: ofcourse na business, what else should it be? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 3:48pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
nihilistjnr:Oyedepo pays workers and expect financial productivity and growth, what should we call that if not business? People don’t buy or sell anything in betting firms, they willingly place their money with hopes of winning, just like members willingly pay their cash with the hope of getting blessed. If Church isn’t a business, it’s then safe to say betting firms aren’t business firms. ![]() @Your first paragraph, The likes of Dangote, Adenuga and some few are asslickers to the government, licking ass doesn’t necessarily means you’ll be publicly praising them, that Oyedepo hardly praise the politicians directly doesn’t means he’s not an asslicker, he is, he’s scared of stepping on toes, he doesn’t want to end up like Jack Ma, man praises the politicians indirectly, never preached against bad governance anytime they visit his church. He’s an asslicker. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 3:49pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Taguchi:We are on the same page then. ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 4:06pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
donstan18: When you place a bet, you get a ticket which states your exact expected winnings, and your exact odds of winnings. You do not do the same in a church. I understand what you mean in practice, but really, offering is a voluntary donation not a payment for goods and services, and you can go to church and pray to God without paying a dime. You dont know Oyedepo . Scared for what exactly? This man's first church was established in Kaduna and he has had several run-ins with muslims looking to burn his church etc. He's a converted muslim himself, and he has been an outspoken critic of the Buhari government since before the man came to power. This guy is battle tested. He also does not rely on political patronage for anything. He doesn't need funds from anybody. His following is so avid that he's selling out a 50k auditorium 4 times every sunday. The man has like 7 private jets. This is a video of the church property....in Texas. He has several all over the world, including at least 14 here in the UK that they own not rent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcpkxLXgYwk When his first daughter got married, she received over150 brand new cars as gifts. Like bruh, asslick? asslick for what? what's the motive? This guy actually said Jack Ma, like Nigerian Government is the same as China ![]() 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 4:11pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
� Chelsea are trying to negotiate a loan deal with Bayern Munich to complete the capture of Kingsley Coman, according to L'Equipe. �The Blues are also reportedly looking to use Callum Hudson-Odoi in exchange for 25-year-old Coman. �Bayern had four bids and a loan offer rejected for Coman last summer. @sky_sports_football 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 4:42pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
donstan18:I’m not his fan but that man does not asslick anybody. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 4:50pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
I am a Christian, but churches in Nigeria are profit business ventures and firms Donstan18, stay one place abeg. You dey confuse us ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 4:53pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
izzou:“Churches in Nigeria “ Quote me well.... And beside, there’s nothing wrong saying the truth about Churches in Nigeria, it doesn’t make me less Christian. I’m not a fanatic. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 4:55pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
donstan18: What does a church in Nigeria do that a church overseas doesn't do? They both take offerings, tithes and donations. So, educate me, sir |
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