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Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by Ebymyk(m): 3:51pm On Jul 23, 2021
Dabronze:
My question if it was a boy that is the minor a matter like this do you think the woman would be charge for defiling the boy.
a boy never reach to release, that's defilement too... She will be charged...
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by neyoohhh: 3:52pm On Jul 23, 2021
angelfallz:
Lol. So you can't tell when someone is joking with you.
I made sure I put "Lol" and an emoji but you still didn't get it.

The links and your screenshots support what I have been trying to say all along. Not every sex with an underaged person or minor is called paedophilia.
The quote below is your quote. For which I was trying to correct you.



Off course that's common sense, if 2 underage do it, giving a max of 5 year's difference between the two , it's not pedo.

In the west If under 17 (depending on the country) and adult , it's pedo.

There's a push to have a universal age of 16 globally.

There's also a push to decriminalise pedos.

You must remember different countries have different code's.
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by optimusprime2(m): 3:53pm On Jul 23, 2021
Dabronze:
My question if it was a boy that is the minor a matter like this do you think the woman would be charge for defiling the boy.
Absolutely!!!
The woman would be cooling off in jail too

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Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by angelfallz(m): 4:01pm On Jul 23, 2021
Nawa oh you must be reading those links fast. I did not read where it was said if 2 underage do it. What I read was, "For some reason, when a man is found to be having consenting sex with a fully developed teenaged person in the United States, police attempt to brand the accused person as a paedophile to get themselves more attention and to further vilify the accused above and beyond the truth of the case".

"Man" meaning someone who is of age.

neyoohhh:


Off course that's common sense, if 2 underage do it, giving a max of 5 year's difference between the two , it's not pedo.

In the west If under 17 (depending on the country) and adult , it's pedo.

There's a push to have a universal age of 16 globally.

There's also a push to decriminalise pedos.

You must remember different countries have different code's.


Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by neyoohhh: 4:05pm On Jul 23, 2021
angelfallz:
Nawa oh you must be reading those links fast. I did not read where it was said if 2 underage do it. What I read was, "For some reason, when a man is found to be having consenting sex with a fully developed teenaged person in the United States, police attempt to brand the accused person as a paedophile to get themselves more attention and to further vilify the accused above and beyond the truth of the case".

"Man" meaning someone who is of age.


What are you trying to say?

If an adult let's assume 20 year's of age sleeps with a 12 year old is this Pedo or not?

Just say yes or no.
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by Ugandatales: 4:09pm On Jul 23, 2021
I have a feeling they are a part of a religious cult...like Jim Jones People's Temple, and Jim Baker's The Source Family. America has a lot of these kinds of cults till today, and they do really weird stuff, that's why the guy didn't see anything wrong with having a pregnant 12 year old girlfriend. Most of those cults have something like a big compound they live in, closed out to the world. Jim Baker, leader of the Source Family had up to 14 wives living with him, some as young as 15-16.
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by wirinet(m): 4:15pm On Jul 23, 2021
See primitive reasoning. You are reasoning as if you still live in the dark ages.

Adakintroy:
As we progress down this lines of thoughts we will have to revisited our existing g laws what constitute fundamental truth.
Which fundamental truth? A very warped primitive fundamental truth.


All societies has their taboos. In Africans men vs men sexual acts constitutes a taboo. Weras in the west child sex and not men sex constitute taboos. Who is right and who is wrong. That's a matter of subjective reasoning.
Taboos change according to time, culture and enlightenment. In my culture, just 50 years ago, twins were a taboo and they were killed immediately after birth. Even in the west, gays were a taboo just 200 years ago. Marriage of pre-teen girls were the norm even within the aristocrats.


A man sleep with a 12yts old does not meet any criteria of rape or abuse. Not in the slightest bit. If he had sex with her, was it a willing act?, if he take her to the hospital and pays for the bills. Does that constitute an abusive act?..if so in what sense. How do we define an abuse. If he is still willing to take care of her and nuture her, we're is the " heart" of malevolonce?
You are truly a sicko. Maybe you were abused when you were 12 or less and delight to see other pre-teens suffer to feel good about yourself.

A 12 year old is mentally and physically immature to understand the rudiments of marriage, child bearing and child raising. It's like a new yam. It's just too immature to be eaten, no matter it's size. People have to wait for it to mature before they can cook and eat it.

I think we humans should be less rigid with our laws. If a girl can get pregnant at twelve it means nature and not the man has granted approval to her maturity. We are all strangely a servant to nature dictates. The subjective nature of things mean not all women mature at thesame pace or time. Some are approved earlier.
A girl getting pregnant at 12 put her life at great risk. Her body is not rope enough to withstand the trauma of child birth. Even her pelvic bone has not started expanding to accommodate the passage of a baby. Millions of girls die in the north as a result of VVF and other birth complications, but remain largely unreported. Governor Yerimah's Egyptian child bride died during child birth and it was not reported.

It is not subjective matter, it is an objective fact that girls (and boys also) are not mentally and physically prepared for child bearing.


The whole ideal that a woman should reach a definite definite age before sex act is permissive is just plain rationally primitive. A man should not go to jail or has his whole life taking from him for something as silly as that.

You are the primitive one here. Scientific evidence as well as historical evidence has shown that girls are not given the responsibility of adulthood until they reach at least 16 years of age.

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Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by neyoohhh: 4:20pm On Jul 23, 2021
wirinet:
See primitive reasoning. You are reasoning as if you still live in the dark ages.


Which fundamental truth? A very warped primitive fundamental truth.


Taboos change according to time, culture and enlightenment. In my culture, just 50 years ago, twins were a taboo and they were killed immediately after birth. Even in the west, gays were a taboo just 200 years ago. Marriage of pre-teen girls were the norm even within the aristocrats.


You are truly a sicko. Maybe you were abused when you were 12 or less and delight to see other pre-teens suffer to feel good about yourself.

A 12 year old is mentally and physically immature to understand the rudiments of marriage, child bearing and child raising. It's like a new yam. It's just too immature to be eaten, no matter it's size. People have to wait for it to mature before they can cook and eat it.

A girl getting pregnant at 12 put her life at great risk. Her body is not rope enough to withstand the trauma of child birth. Even her pelvic bone has not started expanding to accommodate the passage of a baby. Millions of girls die in the north as a result of VVF and other birth complications, but remain largely unreported. Governor Yerimah's Egyptian child bride died during child birth and it was not reported.

It is not subjective matter, it is an objective fact that girls (and boys also) are not mentally and physically prepared for child bearing.



You are the primitive one here. Scientific evidence as well as historical evidence has shown that girls are not given the responsibility of adulthood until they reach at least 16 years of age.

To add gay's were abomination just 12 year's ago in the west and up till now they still are despite people allowing them to do whatever.

Excellent points.
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by Belleful: 4:25pm On Jul 23, 2021
Dabronze:
My question if it was a boy that is the minor a matter like this do you think the woman would be charge for defiling the boy.
Did u not see d news of a adult female prostitute that was arrested for having sex with a minor in South Africa?
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by tayoccu(m): 4:28pm On Jul 23, 2021
FutureIsFemale:
Actually, it is near-impossible for a woman to think of such not to talk of doing it.
It is believed that men have high sex drive but it's quite unfortunate that they can't control their sexual urge.


Women love to deceive themselves that they have more control, just because most of their sexual crimes don’t get reported.
The one in the link below got reported and she got what she deserved

https://www.google.com/amp/s/omaha.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/sarpy-county-woman-sentenced-to-lengthy-prison-term-for-sexually-assaulting-minors/article_dc0206de-d835-11eb-831a-1bfc0f8c0e72.amp.html

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Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by tayoccu(m): 4:32pm On Jul 23, 2021
FutureIsFemale:

Her first confession was under duress. It is impossible for a 21-year-old girl to kill a trained boxer

This cracked me up, pray tell why is it impossible?
Is it that a trained boxer’s skin is so tough that a knife can’t pierce? Or the boxer’s training has made him immortal?
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by tayoccu(m): 4:36pm On Jul 23, 2021
FutureIsFemale:
By the way, this girl acted under self-defense.

It’s no longer self defense if the weapon with which you defended yourself is deadlier than the weapon you were attacked with. Ie if I punch you and you retaliate with a knife, it’s no longer self defense
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by angelfallz(m): 4:36pm On Jul 23, 2021
Yes

neyoohhh:


What are you trying to say?

If an adult let's assume 20 year's of age sleeps with a 12 year old is this Pedo or not?

Just say yes or no.

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Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by Baitullah: 4:37pm On Jul 23, 2021
Near impossible my ass.

Just here in nairaland, we read the story of a over 30 year old lady indulging a very young boy in sex in his parents house. Afterwhich his mum caught them and reported to the police.

Don't give us that crap. Nothing is impossible
FutureIsFemale:
Actually, it is near-impossible for a woman to think of such not to talk of doing it.
It is believed that men have high sex drive but it's quite unfortunate that they can't control their sexual urge.

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Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by wirinet(m): 4:44pm On Jul 23, 2021
FutureIsFemale:
Prove what you typed here.
Her first confession was under duress. It is impossible for a 21-year-old girl to kill a trained boxer
You have any evidence that she was put under duress? Are there signed of torture.
What kind of duress was she subjected to and by whom? The Police, reporters that questioned her or the "real killers" of Mr Ataga?

For you to allege duress in court, you will have to reveal what kind of duress it was and provide evidence.
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by FutureIsFemale(f): 4:53pm On Jul 23, 2021
wirinet:

You have any evidence that she was put under duress? Are there signed of torture.
What kind of duress was she subjected to and by whom? The Police, reporters that questions her or the "real killers" of Mr Ataga?

For you to allege duress in court, you will have to reveal what kind of duress it was and provide evidence.
The media.
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by FutureIsFemale(f): 4:55pm On Jul 23, 2021
tayoccu:


It’s no longer self defense if the weapon with which you defended yourself is deadlier than the weapon you were attacked with. Ie if I punch you and you retaliate with a knife, it’s no longer self defense
Wack lawyer.
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by FutureIsFemale(f): 4:56pm On Jul 23, 2021
OriginalZombiE:


begging men to help you, as a feminist, are you not ashamed of yourself? cheesy
I called the mods and not men. If banning was within my power I wouldn't have called them.
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by tayoccu(m): 4:57pm On Jul 23, 2021
The second paragraph of section 286 of the Nigerian Criminal Code provides:

“If the nature of the assault is such as to cause reasonable apprehension of death or grievous harm and the person using force by way of defence believes on reasonable grounds that he cannot otherwise preserve the person defended from death or grievous harm, it is lawful for him to use any such force to the assailant as is necessary for defence, even though such force may cause death or grievous harm.”

What this implies is that the accused must not be the one who initiated the encounter with the aggressor.

It also means at the time of the killing he must have believed himself to be in imminent danger of death or grievous bodily harm, such that he feared being killed if he does not act likewise.

There should also be no reasonable way to retreat or escape which might prevent both parties from getting injured or causing bodily harm to each other.

The defence of self-defence would avail any person who, acting without malice and intent to kill, kills a person who in his presence tries to kill or inflict grievous bodily harm on his child, father, mother, spouse or even on a person with whom he has no relationship.
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by tayoccu(m): 5:00pm On Jul 23, 2021
FutureIsFemale:
Wack lawyer.

Instead of calling people names, and engaging in online battles, invest your time in reading, gain some enlightenment, it’ll better your lot in life
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by angelfallz(m): 5:01pm On Jul 23, 2021
Let me ask you. A 30 year adult has sex with 14 year old is that paedophilia?

neyoohhh:


What are you trying to say?

If an adult let's assume 20 year's of age sleeps with a 12 year old is this Pedo or not?

Just say yes or no.

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Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by neyoohhh: 5:03pm On Jul 23, 2021
angelfallz:
Let me ask you. A 30 year adult has sex with 14 year old is that paedophilia?


Yes
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by angelfallz(m): 5:04pm On Jul 23, 2021
neyoohhh:


Yes

Lol. no it isn't. A 14 year old child is not prepubuscent.
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by gbemishile: 5:07pm On Jul 23, 2021
Dabronze:
Which implies that it impossible for a woman to rape a boy, with your moniker i understand much better.
Google about Mary Kay Letourneau and Vili Fualaau please,then come back to exit the post
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by neyoohhh: 5:08pm On Jul 23, 2021
angelfallz:


Lol. no it isn't. A 14 year old child is not prepubuscent.

If you sleep with a 14 year old as a 30 year old man in the west, you're going to spend a long time in jail.

Anyways let's move on.
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by OriginalZombiE: 5:09pm On Jul 23, 2021
FutureIsFemale:
I called the mods and not men. If banning was within my power I wouldn't have called them.
The mods are men, you have declared war on all men so why are you still begging them for help?
As a matter of fact, why are you even using a platform created by a man?
Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by FutureIsFemale(f): 5:14pm On Jul 23, 2021
OriginalZombiE:

The mods are men, you have declared war on all men so why are you still begging them for help?
As a matter of fact, why are you even using a platform created by a man?
For your information, a woman "seu.n's mother" raised the fund se.un used in building this site and also, without his mom he won't be alive to build this site.
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Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by Gfskw: 5:39pm On Jul 23, 2021
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Re: Man Who Took Pregnant 12-Year-Old Girlfriend To Hospital Charged With Rape by TWLifestyle: 5:54pm On Jul 23, 2021
Dabronze:
My question if it was a boy that is the minor a matter like this do you think the woman would be charge for defiling the boy.
of course she would be charged, it's sad that you are more bothered about playing up gender issues than the fact that this man was defiling a 12 year old child . There are many women who have no charged for defiling young boys .

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