Fahdiga:
The sacking proved that God didn't call them rather they were employed to fleece the gullibles of their hard earned money in Jeeeeeeeeesus name and when they couldn't do so they were relieved of their duties to be replaced by more capable hands that will raise enough money for Oyedepo in Jeeeeeeeeesus name

psucc:
This matter of sack has been overly discussed with even the supposed well trained Ministers ofthe Gospel, taking sides.

Brother, the sacked Pastors are can count their sack as a persecution and so move on. Truth be told, "any branch that bears no fruit shall be cut off" (John 15

Please let's die this matter.

psucc:
This matter of sack has been overly discussed with even the supposed well trained Ministers ofthe Gospel, taking sides.

Brother, the sacked Pastors are can count their sack as a persecution and so move on. Truth be told, "any branch that bears no fruit shall be cut off" (John 15:1-2).

Please let's die this matter.

Nwodosis:

What of the parable of the single lost sheep? Why is the Bishop trading off 38 souls that he has already won?

Penguin2:


How many of Jesus’ disciples did He cut off even Judas whom He knew was going to betray him?

The problem with you Pentecostals is that you read the Bible in piecemeal instead of reading it in pericope.

The danger of this is that most of the times you take some of these Bible passages out of context and fail to get the entire intended message.

psucc:
Sir, I am sad that today's church has been "invaded, infiltrated and some conquered". The level of untruthfulness in the church is damning. Most people are now hiding in the church to carry on the nefarious acts.

Only God knows those that are His.

Oyedepo does no wrong. Those sacked guys went they for a job and must have signed some paperworks before their engagement. I even that one of them disclosed that they were place on probation. If so, he has no case.

Nwodosis:
How come the Bishop is willing to lose 38 souls the he has already won for not bringing/winning more more souls? What was the parable of the lost sheep all about?

psucc:
This matter of sack has been overly discussed with even the supposed well trained Ministers ofthe Gospel, taking sides.

Brother, the sacked Pastors are can count their sack as a persecution and so move on. Truth be told, "any branch that bears no fruit shall be cut off" (John 15:1-2).

Please let's die this matter.

ENEMYOFGOD6:
those gullible Christian can never answer this your question.

Penguin2:
I left this till today that is Sunday before I ask this question so that we, the body of Christ, can deliberate on it.

Last week, the entire media space was awash with the news of the sack of about 38 pastors by Living Faith Ministries Worldwide aka Winners Chapel.

Those who broke the news claim the pastors were sacked because they were not financially fruitful but Bishop Oyedepo, the General Overseer of the church, in a counter, claimed the pastors were sacked because they were not spiritually fruitful; they were not winning souls.

But does either of the reason justify the sacking of a pastor?

I ask this because before someone is called a pastor, it is supposed that there must have been some calling from God. A voice must have spoken to him. Like some inner prompting must have occurred that made such a person decide to answer the call.

Now, when that person decided he wanted to answer that calling under Winners Chapel, I’m sure some sort of screening occurs for all applicants and the successful candidates are subjected to some period of training.

At the training or during the training, the candidates, I suppose, should be made to understand the word of God better, understand the church’s tradition, philosophy and theology. But most importantly, the calling of the candidates is subjected to test to determine if they were truly called by God or if the voice they heard was that of Satan or the yearning for the material accompaniments that comes with being a pastor.

Now, at the end of the training period, successful candidates, who passed those tests, are consecrated as pastors. At this point, the candidate should now enjoy all the benefits of his office and some security of vocation being that his calling has been vetted.

In the Catholic Church, at the completion of your seminary training, you are ordained ‘a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek’. Nothing you do will ever make you stop being a priest; whether you are not financially fruitful or not winning souls.

Well, that’s the Catholic Church. But isn’t that the template that the training of pastors for organized religious institution like Winners Chapel should take?

Or do you think that God can ‘uncall’ the ‘called’?

Penguin is a bird of reason!

OAM4J
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ENEMYOFGOD6:
those gullible Christian can never answer this your question.

conscienceman4:

IF YOU ARE CALLED AND YOU THINK MAN IS THE ONE UNCALLING YOU BECAUSE HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE MINISTRY, THEN GO AND PROVE YOUR CALLING BY OPENING YOUR OWN MINISTRY. DESIGN YOUR OWN TENETS AND RUN IT THE WAY YOU WANT. IF YOU WIN SOULS OR YOU DON'T WIN SOULS, IT REMAINS YOUR MINISTRY.
STOP DEBATING WHAT YOU ARE NOT ADDING ANYTHING TO.

jesusjnr2020:
Not surprised.

You're obviously ignorant of what it means to bear fruits according to the Word of God.

You thought it was a saying of the world that you've chosen to interpret it in worldly way just like most church leaders do.

Kindly look up the parable of the sower to get the actual meaning, so you'd stop spreading more ignorance.

Penguin2:



If we follow this argument of yours, what is the difference between Winners Chapel, a supposed Church of God, and Access Bank recruitment process?

judedwriter:
This is the reason why so many pastors are in such a hurry to start their own ministries and churches.

Bishop oyedepo's sacking of the 40 pastors to me was a bit hasty and rash, but those pastors ought to have known the 'no nonsense' stance of Oyedepo before they were employed.

It's regrettable that they were sacked, but it's an eye opener that being called as a pastor doesn't make you immune to a sacking especially by a church called winners chapel.

Nwodosis:
How come the Bishop is willing to lose 38 souls the he has already won for not bringing/winning more more souls? What was the parable of the lost sheep all about?

psucc:
This matter of sack has been overly discussed with even the supposed well trained Ministers ofthe Gospel, taking sides.

Brother, the sacked Pastors are can count their sack as a persecution and so move on. Truth be told, "any branch that bears no fruit shall be cut off" (John 15:1-2).

Please let's die this matter.

Penguin2:
That’s it.

The action goes to demonstrate that what they have is a business enterprise and not a body of God under spiritual direction.

conscienceman4:

IF YOU ARE CALLED AND YOU THINK MAN IS THE ONE UNCALLING YOU BECAUSE HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE MINISTRY, THEN GO AND PROVE YOUR CALLING BY OPENING YOUR OWN MINISTRY. DESIGN YOUR OWN TENETS AND RUN IT THE WAY YOU WANT. IF YOU WIN SOULS OR YOU DON'T WIN SOULS, IT REMAINS YOUR MINISTRY.
STOP DEBATING WHAT YOU ARE NOT ADDING ANYTHING TO.

ENEMYOFGOD6:
those gullible Christian can never answer this your question.