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Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by rottennaija(m): 4:40pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
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Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Nezero(m): 4:55pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Thank you for sharing such fantastic stuff from Jehovah's witnesses publications history. They do not claim to be inspired, they simply believe in the Bible and look for answers therein. By the way, generally Jehovah's witnesses do not rely on publications that are that old. Like 1920s, 1930s. That's like a hundred years ago. More available information must have helped them adjust their views. Jesus disciples also had wrong understanding and expectations at times. God reveals things gradually. Proverbs 4:18 says: “The path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established" I hope others enjoyed the article too. 4 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Auskyd(m): 5:56pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
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Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:59pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
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Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Emusan(m): 6:42pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Nezero post=1041 854246: You called a clear contradictions like this A FANTASTIC STUFF, how was it fantastic They do not claim to be inspired, they simply believe in the Bible and look for answers therein. Is it that you don't know much about your organization or you decided to be lying? Here are few claims of JWs for inspiration: “Under the guidance of his holy spirit and on the basis of his Word of truth, Jehovah provides what is needed so that all of God's people may be "fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought" and remain "stabilized in the faith." (1 Cor 1:10; Col. 2:6,7) Surely we are grateful for Jehovah's spiritual provisions in these last days. Kingdom Ministry Sep 2007 p.3 US Edition. "When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, holy spirit helps responsible representatives of the faithful and discreet slave at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood (Matt. 24:45; 1 Cor. 2:13) The Governing Body as a whole considers adjusted explanations. (Acts 15:6) What they learn, they publish for the benefit of all." Watchtower 2010 Jul 15 p.22-23 "Third, holy spirit is at work in bringing Bible truths to light." Watchtower 2010 Apr 15 p.10 "The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327 So who should we believe, you or watchtower? By the way, generally Jehovah's witnesses do not rely on publications that are that old. Like 1920s, 1930s. But you can rely on Bible which is more older than that. Isn't watchtower claimed that the way the early Christians were inspired and directed is the same way the 8 slaves men in Brooklyn (sorry New York) are directed and inspired? So why won't you rely on the same publications that is the WORK OF HOLY SPIRIT, JEHOVAH AND INVISIBLE JESUS OR Should we then say those publications aren't the work of Jehovah, Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ? More available information must have helped them adjust their views. Why adjustments in the first place? Jesus disciples also had wrong understanding and expectations at times. God reveals things gradually. NOTICE: "THEY HAD WRONG UNDERSTANDING AND EXPECTATIONS" but do they TEACH AND PEN DOWN WRONG THINGS Proverbs 4:18 says: “The path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established" Has it cross your mind that this scripture didn't say NEW LIGHT CONTRADICTED THE OLD LIGHT? in this case, your NEW LIGHT contradicted YOUR OLD LIGHT, Will you have trust Bible if what the Apostles pen down contradicted each other? I hope others enjoyed the article too. Enjoy contradictions ke, do you? 3 Likes |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Nezero(m): 9:26pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Emusan: Of course we trust the Bible. If what we believe in pains you, then I cannot help you. |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Nezero(m): 10:00pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
[quote author=Emusan post=104157250] You called a clear contradictions like this A FANTASTIC STUFF, how was it fantastic A reasonable person avoids statements like this.. 'clear' contradictions? Let others reason for themselves. Is it that you don't know much about your organization or you decided to be lying?lie ke? So what and what could happen? What if you are the one being ignorant here? Here are few claims of JWs for inspiration:Divine Inspiration? I don't see anything like that in your quotes, I see guidance.. We have never claimed infallibility. Jesus disciples themselves had wrong expectations like I said earlier. "LORD, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” (Acts 1:6)"... This does not mean they do not have God's holy spirit or approval. “Under the guidance of his holy spirit and on the basis of his Word of truth, Jehovah provides what is needed so that all of God's people may be "fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought" and remain "stabilized in the faith." (1 Cor 1:10; Col. 2:6,7) Surely we are grateful for Jehovah's spiritual provisions in these last days. Kingdom Ministry Sep 2007 p.3 US Edition.. You seem bent on confusing yourself. So who should we believe, you or watchtower?we? Who is we? But you can rely on Bible which is more older than that.Why not. It is inspired of God. Sometimes God dictated the words. Sometimes he revealed it to people miraculously and they pen it down tastefully. Don't be stumbled abeg. The Bible is divinely inspired. And that's what we rely on, and encourage you to rely on. Isn't watchtower claimed that the way the early Christians were inspired and directed is the same way the 8 slaves men in Brooklyn (sorry My York) are directed and inspired?. I can't make any sense from what you wrote. So why won't you rely on the same publications that is the WORK OF HOLY SPIRIT, JEHOVAH AND INVISIBLE JESUSI do. But like I said, a child of God can have wrong expectations at times. The only problem is if you have a better understanding and continue to wallow in the wrong information like you are doing. We used to celebrate birthdays and Christmas. We stopped all of that. We didn't preach from house to house before. We do now. That's progressive do t you think. But we have left you behind haven't we? Why adjustments in the first place?Read that scripture again NOTICE: "THEY HAD WRONG UNDERSTANDING AND EXPECTATIONS" but do they TEACH AND PEN DOWN WRONG THINGSwell it is on record somewhat.. if it weren't we wouldn't have known. Has it cross your mind that this scripture didn't say NEW LIGHT CONTRADICTED THE OLD LIGHT?The Bible is the light. It has not changed. Our understanding improves. There is no old light or new light. Don't fabricate stuff. The disciples thought it was okay to use a sword to defend Jesus. Later they learnt they weren't supposed to. The disciples thought it was okay not to preach to gentiles nor mingle with them. Later they had to. Feel me? Will you have trust Bible if what the Apostles pen down contradicted each other? Enjoy contradictions ke, do you?fallacy of hasty generalisation 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Emusan(m): 10:03pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Nezero: I'm sure you can't provide reasonable answers to those questions. Before you can't deny not trusting in the Bible, then why can't you trust in your OLD PUBLICATIONS which is the product of the same Jehovah, Holy Spirit, and Invisible Jesus? |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Nezero(m): 10:11pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
[quote author=Emusan post=104163444] I'm sure you can't provide reasonable answers to those questions.if the premise of an argument is wrong, then the conclusion will definitely be wrong. If the question is unreasonable.. then you can't have the answers you want. Before you can't deny not trusting in the Bible, then why can't you trust in your OLD PUBLICATIONS which is the product of the same Jehovah, Holy Spirit, and Invisible Jesus? The subject is about Dinosaurs. The information from the Bible has not changed. Scientific discoveries keep getting updated. Understanding new scientific discoveries in the light of the Bible can and should be updated. That's all I am saying 3 Likes |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by MightySparrow: 10:44pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Nezero:Most of their teachings are mere conjectures. They spend billions of dollars to publish gibberish stuffs.. New members on Nairaland will not allow people to rest dishing out ignorance with confidence. Lloyd Evans and a host of them that have escaped delusion are called names. So many lazy dudes here would not dig into the history of their organisation but take joy in condemning other churches and leaders. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Emusan(m): 11:00pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Nezero: A reasonable person avoids statements like this.. 'clear' contradictions? Let others reason for themselves. But it's evident that it's a clear contradictions, if not, you won't have distanced yourself from the OLD PUBLICATIONS. Divine Inspiration? I don't see anything like that in your quotes, I see guidance.. Do you go school at all? So DIVINE INSPIRATION is different from Jehovah, Holy Spirit and Jesus guidance. Kindly tell us what it means TO GUIDE... do you even understand this statement? "The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327 If NO MAN'S OPINION is expressed in watchtower, whose OPINION WAS EXPRESSED? We have never claimed infallibility. Jesus disciples themselves had wrong expectations like I said earlier. "LORD, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” (Acts 1:6)"... This does not mean they do not have God's holy spirit or approval. The disciples ONLY HAVE WRONG EXPECTATIONS not WRONG GOD'S WORD. Even the people who pen down Bible never claimed INFALLIBILITY but what every Bible students hold is that God always uses fallible human to pen down His infallible that's why you can TRUST BIBLE as the Word of God. So if watchtower claimed the same HOLY SPIRIT who helped those people pen down Bible GUIDE AND DIRECT their publications, should it be FALLIBLE. You seem bent on confusing yourself. No! You're the very one who looks confused because I don't know different btw DIVINE INSPIRATION and being GUIDED, HELPED AND DIRECTED by Jehovah, Holy Spirit, and Jesus. we? Who is we? The listeners Why not. It is inspired of God. Sometimes God dictated the words. Sometimes he revealed it to people miraculously and they pen it down tastefully. Don't be stumbled abeg. The Bible is divinely inspired. And that's what we rely on, and encourage you to rely on. So HOW DID GOD GUIDE THE PUBLICATION OF WATCHTOWER? You don't rely on it rather on your 8 men in Brooklyn (sorry New York) I can't make any sense from what you wrote. Read it again, this time slowly Watchtower claimed that the way the early Christians were inspired and directed is the same way the 8 slaves men in Brooklyn (sorry New York) are directed and inspired? I do. But like I said, a child of God can have wrong expectations at times. Who is talking about TIME here We're talking about WRONG TEACHING The only problem is if you have a better understanding and continue to wallow in the wrong information like you are doing. Just as the information you have today as truth CAN BECOME WRONG INFORMATION in few years if ANOTHER BRIGHTER LIGHT SHINE. We used to celebrate birthdays and Christmas. We stopped all of that. This is not WRONG EXPECTATION OF TIME but WRONG TEACHING. So those people who once celebrated Birthday and Christmas died as IDOLATERS, so is there hope of heavenly calling for them and resurrection to paradise earth? We didn't preach from house to house before. We do now. I guess the Bible passages that later instruct you people to start preaching from house to house were not pen down, they were just added few years ago. That's progressive do t you think. But we have left you behind haven't we? You left me behind when you're still struggling for just 9millions followers for over 100years whereas. That's unfruitfulness Read that scripture again I do, did you? well it is on record somewhat.. if it weren't we wouldn't have known. On record that THEY DISH OUT WONG TEACHINGS or THEY DIED CELEBRATING BIRTHDAY The disciples used a sword to defend Jesus. Later they learnt they weren't supposed to. Only ONE PERSON (but you wrote DISCIPLES) used sword and it's just on ONE OCCASION. Not THAT they first CLAIMED and PRACTICEED using WEAPONS to kill people is allowed then years later another BRIGHT LIGHT SHINE said it's not so anymore. Unlike watchtower teachings where one teaching goes on for decade but only for dim light to shine. The disciples didn't preach to gentiles nor mingle with them. Later they had to. And where did the disciples FIRST CLAIM THAT preaching to or TEACHING the Gentile is wrong before changing it to NOW YOU CAN TEACH OR PREACH TO GENTILE? You people don't even know what you're comparing with with each other. Let me give you a typical example. Jesus is the one who commissioned Apostle Paul to the Gentiles' nation. Now imagine if you read it from Matthew, Mark & Luke that Peter who is leading the early Christians HAS CLAIMED THAT he was directed & guided by Jesus Christ that the gospel will never be PREACHED TO THE GENTILES but only for Paul to show up few years later and CLAIMED the same Jesus instructed him that the gospel will be preached to the gentiles. This is the case of watchtower. Feel me? Only if you understand. fallacy of hasty generalisation Do you? 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Emusan(m): 11:11pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Next time you're quoting me, quote properly. Nezero: And if the foundation of a belief is wrong no matter what you build on it, it will always be wrong. The subject is about Dinosaurs. The information from the Bible has not changed. Definitely, so why do your TEACHINGS do change? Does it mean the people behind the watchtower publications don't have access to this UNCHANGING information in the Bible before going to printing press? Scientific discoveries keep getting updated. Understanding new scientific discoveries in the light of the Bible can and should be updated. But you said earlier that Bible information don't change, which means no matter how many times scientifical discoveries getting updated, the information will ALWAYS BE IN LINE with the Bible. You just confirmed that Watchtower society are just doing guess work, while hidding under the guidance, help & direction of Holy Spirit, Jehovah, and invisible Jesus. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Nezero(m): 12:41am On Jul 28, 2021 |
MightySparrow: Talk is cheap. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Nezero(m): 12:45am On Jul 28, 2021 |
Emusan: You keep running around in circles. I say one thing and you attack another. Much of what you say makes no sense. Running around with a 1930s publications and expecting me to explain it to you. Why don't you go back to the 1930s to challenge the editor. I would reply you, but I would rather talk to someone who can actually reason. And the good thing is, such people can compare your arguments with my response and figure things out for themselves. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by dappa71: 2:06am On Jul 28, 2021 |
Nezero: Ahh, it seems you’re new to these streets? Emusan doesn’t bloody care what you believe as a Witness, he’s only out there deriving senseless pleasure as long as you keep on arguing fruitlessly with him. But Emusan will not mention the name of his Church because he knows there’s nothing to write home about it. I already noticed this calm demeanour in you from the way you comment. Don’t let Emusan and his antics change that. Chop knuckle, my brother. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:32am On Jul 28, 2021 |
Dear Brothers, this is a post set up by an APOSTATE! If it's on a thread by a neutral person that Apostates comes in we understand that we're chatting with the neutral person and not the apostate! Please let's keep to our guidebook! "Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them" Romans 16:17 "If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works" 2John 1:10-11 Do we avoid an apostate by visiting his thread? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Auskyd(m): 8:14am On Jul 28, 2021 |
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Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by rottennaija(m): 8:14am On Jul 28, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: When mean when apostate shows mountain of evidence that God has not given backing to your publications, that what you publish and believe as coming from God and the Bible is whatever someone in bethel imagines, interpreted and published with the blessing of the governing body? I can live with that if that's the definition of apostasy. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Auskyd(m): 8:30am On Jul 28, 2021 |
rottennaija: Bro you no get work? Are you this jobless? I said you should come let's work together nah. Don't be jobless and stupid at the same time nah! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by rottennaija(m): 8:45am On Jul 28, 2021 |
Auskyd: I have my work. Both full time and part time. Keep yours, I don't need it while I'll do mine. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by rottennaija(m): 8:45am On Jul 28, 2021 |
Auskyd: Posting is a part time job. You get? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by rottennaija(m): 8:46am On Jul 28, 2021 |
Auskyd: Being foolish is coming here to offer a job I don't have any interest or need. I mean, are you this silly and jobless? Don't be stupid and senseless at the same time. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by rottennaija(m): 9:03am On Jul 28, 2021 |
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Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by Auskyd(m): 9:06am On Jul 28, 2021 |
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Re: Jehovah Witnesses And Dinosaurs - 10 Silly Claims They Have Made by rottennaija(m): 9:19am On Jul 28, 2021 |
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