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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ebukacute(m): 7:31am On Jul 29, 2021 |
OVA200: I get your point sha... I trust marina,she would sign kounde but won't be a deal that will see zouma out of Chelsea with 30mill in addition. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 7:32am On Jul 29, 2021 |
timbros: Havertz was touted to play many positions.... This informed Lampard's decision to play him out of position. I don't believe in that versatility crap. I can't celebrate you for being jack of all trade and master of none like O'shea.. Tell me a position he is extremely good at and we will judge him based on that. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ebukacute(m): 7:32am On Jul 29, 2021 |
Capaldi:Okay ooo. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:36am On Jul 29, 2021 |
BlueMann: Sevilla broke the record signing him and he is their must valuable player |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 7:39am On Jul 29, 2021 |
Ebukacute:Marina can only do little to cut the price. Zouma is valued at €25 million and adding another €30 million to it makes it €55 million for Kounde which is already €25 million off his release clause and making him cheaper or on par with most recently sign young CB. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 7:42am On Jul 29, 2021 |
OVA200: They don't really play long ball in spain.. EPL is a league that targets weaknesses, physical or otherwise. Don't forget how they exploited us during Kepa, Rudiger, Christensen Azpi, Emerson/Alonso at the back. Height is very important at the back. If Azpi, Kounde and Rudiger pair when Silva is injured, you will understand this better. Kounde might be good in the air, but so are EPL forwards. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:46am On Jul 29, 2021 |
OVA200:here is assuming kounde is the next Fabio cannavaro, but underrating zouma to prove your point is a no no. Zouma is going because Tuchel prefers ball playing CB like Christensen and if I recall correctly Zouma improved in that aspect. There are few EPL CB as good as Zouma in form. You forget who marshalled our defense this past two seasons and with clean sheets and top performance. Who's performance called top dough from top EPL clubs. Why do you think Sevilla are eager to get the deal done |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:47am On Jul 29, 2021 |
swiz123:Christensen is not better than Kounde is the air yet Tuchel preferred him to Zouma |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 7:57am On Jul 29, 2021 |
swiz123:I know all these and you can see i state that Zouma is better but that doesn't mean Kounde is poor. Aerially Zouma is among the top 5 in EPL for me so Zouma being very good on the air doesn't means Kounde is poor. We played with Azpi, Silva, Rudiger, James and Chilwel severally last season and didn't concede from set piece. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 7:58am On Jul 29, 2021 |
BlueAngel444: I don't think Kounde is every better than Christensen at all going by last season club and country football. Would anyone pay 30 plus Zouma for Chris? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:01am On Jul 29, 2021 |
swiz123:the age, contract length and seasonal appearance is what usually takes preference in a transfer bid before talent or ability. Kounde in la liga had the best CB performance, can we say the same for Christensen. Kounde fit sign finish manager go turn am to RB |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 8:02am On Jul 29, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:I so much hate to be misconstrued. If you cannot read please find someone that can. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 8:06am On Jul 29, 2021 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kamelot77(m): 8:07am On Jul 29, 2021 |
It's clearly show that TT is sticking with 3 at the back, zouma is not comfortable in any of the position at d back 3, James and azpi is ahead of him in rcb, Chris and Silva is ahead of him at d center position and hustle is ahead of him in lcb also, with kounde now TT won't use James as a rcb against a pacy team again. It's time for zouma to leave 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 8:12am On Jul 29, 2021 |
OVA200: Rudiger and Silva are tall and good in the air. Mendy's presence helps massively sha. My own is, what's his best position.... I don't like that versatile crap... If Silva is injured, can he replace him like Christensen did last season? If he is playing RWB, can he be better than Victor Moses during his time? If he is playing RCB, can he comfortably be better than Azpi?... Cos I believe we are not buying a squad player but an upgrade in our defence line |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:14am On Jul 29, 2021 |
swiz123:which position was the out of position that Lampard played Havertz in |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:16am On Jul 29, 2021 |
swiz123: I agree, Christensen under TT and at the Euros was fantastic. Kounde just has a lot of hype. You know, highest rated defender in the La Liga last season (whoscored) and some other sturvs. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:17am On Jul 29, 2021 |
OVA200: "Zouma is an average CB at his absolute best" "i don't think he can ever improve more" Guy take your own advise Zouma is an average CB at his absolute best and i don't think he can ever improve more than what we've seen and with the quality of CB our rivals current boost we are a step behind with Kurt Zouma.should I quote your whole post so you can be happy 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:17am On Jul 29, 2021 |
swiz123: I stand to be corrected, but he's predominantly a right sided CB, be it in a back four or back three. Basically, he'll be playing the RCB position of Azpi. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 8:19am On Jul 29, 2021 |
swiz123: For every Havertz you show me, I will show you Essien and Azpi. I don't want to even mention James Milner. What make some players invaluable to their team is their versatility. Milner might not be the first name in Liverpool teamsheet, but when an emergency cover is needed in any position, Klopp knows who to call on. Which position will you judge Azpi on? He started as RB, played consistently as LB and now playing RCB/RWB.... Has he performed poorly in any of the positions? Being versatile is not 'crap'. Stop throwing words anyhow. Learn how to use them. 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:19am On Jul 29, 2021 |
Kamelot77:simple, it's all about Tuchel's preference |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 8:21am On Jul 29, 2021 |
timbros: A perfect example that versatility is not crap 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 8:23am On Jul 29, 2021 |
swiz123:Silva is not tall, only Rudiger is. Mendy help truly . He is a CB and in 3 man defense he should be able to play comfortably across all 3 roles, all those RWB or DM shout are just okoto because the fact that he has played there doesn't mean he is good there. Their is no way he can bench either James or Azpi in that RWB role. If he settle nicely in England I think he will bench either Rudiger or Azpi. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 8:25am On Jul 29, 2021 |
BlueAngel444: The bolded is simply wrong. A player should be signed based on how the club intends to use his skill and talent to achieve their objective in a given system. Now, is he better than Azpi at RCB? Will he outperform Silva at CB to earn his place there? Will he replace Rudiger at LCB? Will he be a very serious upgrade to James as a RWB? If he can one of the above well, then they should discuss how to reduce his transfer fee.... If he can't do any of the above, his talk should be muted instantly. Signing squad players is the reason we have so many redundancies in the squad |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 8:26am On Jul 29, 2021 |
BlueAngel444: First as a Winger and second as a double 8 with Mount |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 8:29am On Jul 29, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:Have Zouma ever been a top CB in his career? Why did you stop it at "more"? Is that where you lost your reading ability? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:31am On Jul 29, 2021 |
swiz123: I don't see Kounde immediately entering first team but that's my personal opinion but if he adjusts he may slot in at RCB, or even centrally or further right. Best still is that he can play in a back four and seems technical good to adjust. His best position so far is central defense. The question is can he still be a great CB for us. To answer your question about RWB, Kounde is good going forward so yeah he could be better. Versatile players just show how good they are, technically. Players like Ramos, Cesar, Javier Zannetti |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:32am On Jul 29, 2021 |
OVA200:I only copied and pasted, but you seem more touchy than touching the point of the post. No vex 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:37am On Jul 29, 2021 |
swiz123:is Havertz not a midfielder and what position did he play under Tuchel and Low is it not at the right flank Are you saying Havertz is technically not good enough to play 8 that most Attacking midfielders would play, considering he played there at Bayer at times Let's not use numbers let's use right half space, isn't that Havertz position. All this talk blaming Lampard for Havertz failing is very unfair. That same position Barkley as an AM played it well |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 8:37am On Jul 29, 2021 |
BlueMann:At last, what I have been waiting for Is Azpi's position so messed up that we need a replacement that we don't have in James and Christensen; the latter arguably better than Kounde? This to me is a foolish signing cos a position we desperately need a good player is RWB. A player who can also play in a back 4. Spinazola can easily play this position due to his flair and energy. My first choice would have been Hakimi but we sadly let him slip away from us. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:41am On Jul 29, 2021 |
swiz123: What "should be" isn't the point but "what is" You are talking possibilities why not talk out time and watch Sevilla vs Barca, Madrid, Bayern or some other team.. 90minutes. There are sites you can download the match from and watch in your free time. Kounde is coming, whether we like it or not. That future seems more certain. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 8:43am On Jul 29, 2021 |
Nice to see the yellow away jersey back. Reminds me of our yellow away 2009/10 season under Anchelotti. My best yellow so far. Nike tried in this one. 1 Like
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