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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 12:35pm On Aug 11, 2021
timbros:


The bolded is why I said its not true. And you just validated my point.

It's not just DVD that had injury. Almost all the defenders went off injured. The attack became blunt. The Liverpool attack we know (Mane, Firmino, Salah) will always outscore the opponents even if they concede plenty goals.

It is wrong to allude Liverpool's slump to just VVD injury.
VVd is like the catalyst though. Will easily say he is 70% reason Liverpool slumped.

With VVd at the back, Alex and Robertson can go forward to assist attackers. Immediately VVd left, Robertson and Alex had to do more defensive duties which they suck at, Because other centerbacks couldn't fill VVd shoe.

Plus liverpool donot have creative midfielders like kdb or Bernardo silva to assist the attack like Alex and Robertson hence the reason the attackers couldn't get the same numbers they got season before.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:42pm On Aug 11, 2021
timbros:


Just stop.

VVD left Liverpool in a particular position in the table when he got injured. Can you tell us that position and also tell us which position they ended up at the end of the season.

If VVD absence affected Liverpool that much, it will reflect on the league table.

You wanted to use league table after first 5 games of the season to conclude anything? Come on, don't sound like a scummy bro.

If you want to go that route of using that table, Liverpool were 3rd in that week VVD injured, while the eventual champion, City were 11th. You can see how Liverpool did badly by allowing an 11th placed team to overtake and win the trophy. grin

Find an acceptable point pls, because i don't want to waste my energy explaining how Liverpool conceded most, lost back to back to back and lost most games only in the season in which VVD got injured since he joined them.

Take your L.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 12:50pm On Aug 11, 2021
Griffon:


Domination includes winning laurels, so it's TH14 for me. He was more complete. Big-game player, bagged numerous individual honours and team laurels. Ruud's one great season doesn't really change a thing about TH's dominance of the English game.

Blackburn racked up too many debts in the 2000s, that they had to slash down wages and sold some of their best players. They were above relegation waters in 2010 with a wage bill of 81% of their turnover and over 20million in debt.

Shits got more real when the shareholders sold their shares to an Indian chicken company who were run by the venkys, they had promised to clear Rovers' accrued debts. The venkys brought in Anderson to advice them on how to run the company and this was just the beginning of the fall.

First, they had to sack Allardyce for buying players who weren't represented by their agent Anderson. After which, they promoted a rookie coach who was represented by their agent, who between them bought couple of players who were largely represented by their agent. It'd turn out that one of those stupid players was the son of the agent himself. He hardly played, just sitting on a fat wage.

They got relegated, and with no TV money to hold unto, they sunk deeper in debts.

Moral of the short story: Stay away from debts and Anderson, lest you'll be like Blackburn.

U disrepect Thierry Henry with this harry Kane talks abeg!

Igwe played 8 seasons in the league and won golden boot 4 times. He won it back to back to back in 2003/2004, 2004/2005 and 2005/2006.
Until Harry Kane does this, any attempt to put him in the same sentence with Igwe will be regarded as blashpemy.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by KingAlabi: 12:50pm On Aug 11, 2021
Ideaball:


How is man shity not on this list...aguero factor? Just look at scummies but glazers out, ungrateful lots...

The way they talk about glazers you'd think they are frugal and don't spend Chichi on that club but "IT iS oUr ReVEnuE,tHEy ARe rUNnInG oUr CLub ON LoANs" says kingalabi from mafoluku who studied animal science at MAPOLY and knows nothing about finance and economics
I have no idea who you are, but I hope my attention has given you your much needed orgasm.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by KingAlabi: 12:51pm On Aug 11, 2021
Skimpledawg:

Kingalabi in the fvcking potopoteaux

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by KingAlabi: 12:52pm On Aug 11, 2021
Jodera2

Jodera don enter dungeon? cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 12:53pm On Aug 11, 2021
KingAlabi:

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Which one con be this one?

You no be my man again grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera2: 1:03pm On Aug 11, 2021
KingAlabi:
Jodera2

Jodera don enter dungeon? cheesy
Lol.. I tell you oo
I bin give talk for my thread concerning my team arsenal on Sunday, Patrick.muf brought an opposing view.
When I tried quoting Patrick.muf to reply me, dem ban me. Tried with this moniker, dem ban am too

Tried it on Monday again (after the elapse of the ban), as I quote am again, dem ban d 2 monikers again.

Tried it again ysydy(all with different wordings oo). As dem ban my main moniker again, omo I just free Patrick.muf quote oo grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by KingAlabi: 1:10pm On Aug 11, 2021
Jodera2:
Lol.. I tell you oo
I bin give talk for my thread concerning my team arsenal on Sunday, Patrick.muf brought an opposing view.
When I tried quoting Patrick.muf to reply me, dem ban me. Tried with this moniker, dem ban am too

Tried it on Monday again (after the elapse of the ban), as I quote am again, dem ban d 2 monikers again.

Tried it again ysydy(all with different wordings oo). As dem ban my main moniker again, omo I just free Patrick.muf quote oo grin

E don fortify im mentions grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by KingAlabi: 1:11pm On Aug 11, 2021
Skimpledawg:

Which one con be this one?

You no be my man again grin
Apostle cheesy cheesy
You fall my hands just there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 1:16pm On Aug 11, 2021
KingAlabi:

Apostle cheesy cheesy
You fall my hands just there.
It's not in the falling of hands Baba, na how your name enter that post na em make me laugh.

You na star o cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera2: 1:18pm On Aug 11, 2021
KingAlabi:


E don fortify im mentions grin grin grin
grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by KingAlabi: 1:20pm On Aug 11, 2021
Skimpledawg:

It's not in the falling of hands Baba, na how your name enter that post na em make me laugh.

You na star o cheesy
I got haters everywhere cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 1:26pm On Aug 11, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
VVd is like the catalyst though. Will easily say he is 70% reason Liverpool slumped.

With VVd at the back, Alex and Robertson can go forward to assist attackers. Immediately VVd left, Robertson and Alex had to do more defensive duties which they suck at, Because other centerbacks couldn't fill VVd shoe.

Plus liverpool donot have creative midfielders like kdb or Bernardo silva to assist the attack like Alex and Robertson hence the reason the attackers couldn't get the same numbers they got season before.

This is so wrong.

All the Burnley and Brightons and Evertons that won Liverpool sat back and absorbed their pressure, and hit them on the counter.

You guys should stop with this theory that TAA and Robertson suddenly played in their half after VVD left. Go watch those games where Liverpool lost. Even the West Brom match that Alisson scored, Liverpool was mounting attack after attack after attack until West Brom cracked. Are you saying that the full backs didn't attack?

Liverpool's main problem was attack. At a point, they couldn't score to save their lives. Imagine that Alisson helped them to win West Brom.

Look at the image below and tell me it's only VVD injury that affected Liverpool. Why will you give it 70% to VVD?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:31pm On Aug 11, 2021
Jodera2:
Lol.. I tell you oo
I bin give talk for my thread concerning my team arsenal on Sunday, Patrick.muf brought an opposing view.
When I tried quoting Patrick.muf to reply me, dem ban me. Tried with this moniker, dem ban am too

Tried it on Monday again (after the elapse of the ban), as I quote am again, dem ban d 2 monikers again.

Tried it again ysydy(all with different wordings oo). As dem ban my main moniker again, omo I just free Patrick.muf quote oo grin
lmao
Na real 'Touch not my mentions' grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 1:36pm On Aug 11, 2021
airmark:


You wanted to use league table after first 5 games of the season to conclude anything? Come on, don't sound like a scummy bro.

If you want to go that route of using that table, Liverpool were 3rd in that week VVD injured, while the eventual champion, City were 11th. You can see how Liverpool did badly by allowing an 11th placed team to overtake and win the trophy. grin

Find an acceptable point pls, because i don't want to waste my energy explaining how Liverpool conceded most, lost back to back to back and lost most games only in the season in which VVD got injured since he joined them.

Take your L.


And Liverpool continue doing badly to end up where in the table after playing 33 more matches? Their bad performance could have put them in relegation places because VVD is not there.

Ask yourself why Liverpool lost 0-1 on numerous occasions and couldn't at least take one point? Was it VVD that should have scored those goals?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera2: 1:39pm On Aug 11, 2021
BlueAngel444:
lmao
Na real 'Touch not my mentions' grin grin
grin grin grin

I swear.
Maybe the b*t think say me and Patrick.muf dey beef grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:43pm On Aug 11, 2021
If Tuchel can get sacked and still win the champions league
Poch get sacked and is now coaching Messi

This year is not over for you yet, things may just turn around cool

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:50pm On Aug 11, 2021
Griffon:
Which sports team has the highest wage bill in the world?

10. Cleveland Browns | American Football | £157m

9. Dallas Cowboys | American Football | £158m

8. Chelsea | Football | £163m

7. Bayern Munich | Football | £166m

6. Juventus | Football | £184m

5. Los Angeles Dodgers | Baseball | £193m

4. Barcelona | Football | £195m

3. Manchester United | Football | £201m

2. Real Madrid | Football | £212m

1. Paris Saint-Germain | Football | £256m

So no Man City patrickmuf
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:52pm On Aug 11, 2021
Griffon:


Definitely the Aguero's factor.

You can check up the current wage bills on spotrac.com and salaysport.com

From this chart, How much could Aguero be drawing to make them top Man Utd or Chelsea

gap between Chelsea and City is 21M, So unless Aguero was drawing 22M a yr which would be 423k Pounds a week then City will still remain 3rd

Based on the chart you posted

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:06pm On Aug 11, 2021
TheLequte:

Ramdeuter, there's something for you at 19:23 grin

And what the hell happened to Blackburn?

Correct compilation but I think Henry was the best of them

Kane could have been if he had left Spurs 3-4yrs ago

See the defender who taught Vidic Stam and Maldini

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:13pm On Aug 11, 2021
timbros:


[s]And Liverpool continue doing badly to end up where in the table after playing 33 more matches? Their bad performance could have put them in relegation places because VVD is not there.[/s]

Ask yourself why Liverpool lost 0-1 on numerous occasions and couldn't at least take one point? Was it VVD that should have scored those goals?

Read below, i am tired of typing the same thing for you to understand. Do i need to type in ALL CAPS? angry

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:31pm On Aug 11, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
VVd is like the catalyst though. Will easily say he is 70% reason Liverpool slumped.

With VVd at the back, Alex and Robertson can go forward to assist attackers. Immediately VVd left, Robertson and Alex had to do more defensive duties which they suck at, Because other centerbacks couldn't fill VVd shoe.

Plus liverpool donot have creative midfielders like kdb or Bernardo silva to assist the attack like Alex and Robertson hence the reason the attackers couldn't get the same numbers they got season before.

I don't know why Timbros couldn't understand this. grin
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 2:33pm On Aug 11, 2021
raumdeuter:


Correct compilation but I think Henry was the best of them

Kane could have been if he had left Spurs 3-4yrs ago

See the defender who taught Vidic Stam and Maldini


grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 2:34pm On Aug 11, 2021
TheLequte:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_l7BFGM8Vg

Alan Shearer vs Henry vs Harry Kane. Who dominated the league the most? Henry would've been the outright winner but Ruud Van Nistelrooy took one season off of him. In terms of longevity, it's Kane. That dude still won the golden boot last season. Should've left Spurs long ago.

Aguero is the King of near posts
Kevin Phillips scores wondrous goals.

Raumdeuter, there's something for you at 19:23 grin

And what the hell happened to Blackburn?
Omo, you don backslide o. You cannot tell me otherwise

grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 2:38pm On Aug 11, 2021
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 2:49pm On Aug 11, 2021
raumdeuter:


Correct compilation but I think Henry was the best of them

Kane could have been if he had left Spurs 3-4yrs ago

See the defender who taught Vidic Stam and Maldini


This one enter grin grin grin

I used to think Van Djik doesn't jump into challenge
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 2:57pm On Aug 11, 2021
timbros:


This is so wrong.

All the Burnley and Brightons and Evertons that won Liverpool sat back and absorbed their pressure, and hit them on the counter.

You guys should stop with this theory that TAA and Robertson suddenly played in their half after VVD left. Go watch those games where Liverpool lost. Even the West Brom match that Alisson scored, Liverpool was mounting attack after attack after attack until West Brom cracked. Are you saying that the full backs didn't attack?

Liverpool's main problem was attack. At a point, they couldn't score to save their lives. Imagine that Alisson helped them to win West Brom.

Look at the image below and tell me it's only VVD injury that affected Liverpool. Why will you give it 70% to VVD?
Wrong.

Most games Liverpool lost last season after VVd left, they either got outplayed or have same goal attempt stat.
It's not like liverpool had 10 shot on goal and failed to score while opponent had just 1 and score.

Holding more possession doesn't mean they are attacking. It could just be defenders and midfielders passing at the back and middle.
Go and look at each game stats again.
Either they have same shot on goal as opponent or opponent had more.
Sometimes when you hold most of the ball, it looks like you are the one playing which is wrong. Sarriball should have thought a lot of people that.

Besides, liverpool didn't start playing teams that parked the bus last season.
They played teams and they cracked a lot of teams that parked the bus when the two back wingers were firing.

Ask yourself, why did Liverpool attack suddenly became toothless when then wing backs are not supplying the assists or dictate games?

Almost 3 seasons in a row that Liverpool had their back 3-4 intact, they won everything and attackers were churning out goals but one season the defenders had problem, suddenly the attack became toothless.

Is that coincidence or magic?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:01pm On Aug 11, 2021
BlueRayDick:


This one enter grin grin grin

I used to think Van Djik doesn't jump into challenge

That was why he started running away and pointing others to go collect the dribble on his behalf like he did for Morata

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:02pm On Aug 11, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
Wrong.

Most games Liverpool lost last season after VVd left, they either got outplayed or have same goal attempt stat.
It's not like liverpool had 10 shot on goal and failed to score while opponent had just 1 and score.

Holding more possession doesn't mean they are attacking. It could just be defenders and midfielders passing at the back and middle.
Go and look at each game stats again.
Either they have same shot on goal as opponent or opponent had more.
Sometimes when you hold most of the ball, it looks like you are the one playing which is wrong. Sarriball should have thought a lot of people that.

Besides, liverpool didn't start playing teams that parked the bus last season.
They played teams and they cracked a lot of teams that parked the bus when the two back wingers were firing.

Ask yourself, why did Liverpool attack suddenly became toothless when then wing backs are not supplying the assists or dictate games?

Almost 3 seasons in a row that Liverpool had their back 3-4 intact, they won everything and attackers were churning out goals but one season the defenders had problem, suddenly the attack became toothless.

Is that coincidence or magic?

The defenders having problems is not the same as VVD having problems

With VVD last season How many games did Liverpool play and how many goals did they concede

Without VVD last season how many games did Liverpool play and how many goals did they concede
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 3:06pm On Aug 11, 2021
airmark:


Read below, i am tired of typing the same thing for you to understand. Do i need to type in ALL CAPS? angry


TAA had 2 goals and 7 assists last season in EPL. Only 1 assist came BEFORE VVD injury. After VVD, he registered 2 goals and 6 assists..... How did he get those stats since there is no VVD and he doesn't join attack anymore?

Robertson had 1 goal and 7 assists last season in EPL. Only 1 goal and 2 assists came before VVD injury (infact 1 assist is in the Everton game where VVD got the injury). After VVD, he registered 5 more assists.... How did he get those stats since there is no VVD and he doesn't join attack anymore?

I don't know where you or that person in the screen shot got the theory that Liverpool full backs donw attack because VVD is injured.

TAA still have attacking output in UCL sef that I won't bother to mention.

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