ImaIma1:


"You are gonna catch a cold from the ice inside your soul"

Below was my first comment.

At bolded, it means you don't got to church

Now what did you say about my first comment being impolite, madam Daft Buffon? Be smart! You are all over the place. Are you going through a breakup? Frustrated or something. Speak up before you drown in your pool of bitterness.

BRATISLAVA:


It's not an excuse. I'm not a pastor.

I'm not assuming what is preached in African churches. Tell me which African country doesn't preach that verse, but it is Nigerians who tend to dwell on the submission part the most. The rest can extend it to men loving their wives and what comes next. But hardly ever the Nigerian pastor. There is no need to dwell so much on women being submissive when there are so many other verses on marriage for men that are neglected.

Because I once read a Bible doesn't mean I'm into religious Christianity. I have read other religious books, but it won't make me begin to preach on them.

If you feel it is criticism, that's alright. Calling out a wrong in Christian religion doesn't mean one must become a pastor. If I criticize bombing and beheading, does that mean I must become an imam? Would that be the only way to tell people the truth? If they feel criticized, then they will have to keep taking the criticism.

jesusjnr2020:
If you can't see that the idea of a woman being obligated to submit to her husband is a man-made idea, and not of God, then you may never be able get the point.

The only time God ever said such a thing was as a punishment for the woman's role in the fall of man. Try and read Genesis 3 again.

Nothing like that beforehand for God gave both of them authority over the earth and everything He made in the beginning, but as for submission, they were both meant to be submitted to His Own authority, that is the man and his wife, not someone else.

That's what Jesus came to restore, to put God back in charge, therefore for those who claim to be of God, yet want to keep the woman under bondage to such a curse of sin which Jesus had redeemed her from, they are rubbishing the efforts of Jesus in that regard.

Jesus ought to be the Lord and Master over every Christian marriage, not man, because there cannot be two masters in a home. It's either Him or the man, there are no two ways about.

People saying this probably don't know the gravity of what they're saying talking about women submitting to their husbands, since husbands are mere men and humans, therefore taking putting such an authority in their hands instead of God's, would most likely lead to some dangerous repercussions, because men could be evil as most men are.

Obviously the ego of men, including those who claim to be Christians would make it hard for them to accept this Truth, because they want to remain superior and stifling the woman integral to that.

But whom the Son of Man has set free from the bondage of sin is free indeed, so there's nothing any man can do to change that.

God bless.

hupernikao:


Bro, hit the street. No one has made impart in others life by simple rhetoric. The antidote to wrong message is the truth. So start that channel, forum, teaching, class and then let's see how you do, if your critical mind still exalted.
. It's easy to type and criticise but to be part of the work you started making assumption and leaving the job for Pastor. So is your own position is to call out wrong message without having any contribution? I pray contribution into your life

Kobojunkie:
1. For the umpteenth time, Salvation means redemption from the Curse laid on man in Genesis 3 vs 14 - 19.
Those who are redeemed are no longer cursed to sweat for food that spoils, they will not die but have eternal life, they no longer submit to man but to God alone, they are no longer cursed with painful childbirth - again redeemed from the Curse.

2. I don't understand much of your #2, so I wil respond to the bit at the end that I kind of get. Yes, Jesus Christ was sent to the Lost sheep of Israel and it was for them that He lived His life in fulfillment of the Old Covenant Law and died too. However, upon His resurrection the same Jesus Christ threw up the gates to the same Kingdom of God to those in the world when He sent His disciples out to go preach His Gospel to all.

3. Jesus Christ's taught His followers that they are not to install themselves as Maater/Head over any of the others, declaring that He alone is Master/Head over each one who belongs to Him. So what Paul supposedly taught is against Jesus Christ, God's Law and we know it is sin to add, remove or Change any of that which is of God's Law, Jesus Christ.

LilMissFavvy:
What are you talking about? Am I a MOG? Do I own a church? You men know the truth yet can never remind your MOGs to preach the needful. You hate it when people speak up.

BRATISLAVA:


I wonder why you're criticizing me. Is there any reason for the criticism? Or it's only you allowed to do that?

How about you take a dose of that medicine you're measuring?

I'm not obligated to preach because you feel I should. The fact that you read my comment here is enough "preaching" done. Or do you want me to become an imam, too?

As for the assumption part, don't think local always.

LilMissFavvy:
"It means you don't go to church is an insultive statement". "do you go to church" is the right one. Bitchhh, I'm not going through any break-up, are you? I don't need a reply, your life is none of my business, I have some time on my hands and can view threads as much as I can, if you call it being all over the place, it's your business. It marvels me how foolish one can be to just go on a public forum and want to know about people's private affairs, gosh. I can't just understand why people give me insultive mentions even when I'm on my own sharing my views politely. .

jesusjnr2020:
If you can't see that the idea of a woman being obligated to submit to her husband is a man-made idea, and not of God, then you may never be able get the point.

The only time God ever said such a thing was as a punishment for the woman's role in the fall of man. Try and read Genesis 3 again.

Nothing like that beforehand for God gave both of them authority over the earth and everything He made in the beginning, but as for submission, they were both meant to be submitted to His Own authority, that is the man and his wife, not someone else.

That's what Jesus came to restore, to put God back in charge, therefore for those who claim to be of God, yet want to keep the woman under bondage to such a curse of sin which Jesus had redeemed her from, they are rubbishing the efforts of Jesus in that regard.

Jesus ought to be the Lord and Master over every Christian marriage, not man, because there cannot be two masters in a home. It's either Him or the man, there are no two ways about.

People saying this probably don't know the gravity of what they're saying talking about women submitting to their husbands, since husbands are mere men and humans, therefore taking putting such an authority in their hands instead of God's, would most likely lead to some dangerous repercussions, because men could be evil as most men are.

Obviously the ego of men, including those who claim to be Christians would make it hard for them to accept this Truth, because they want to remain superior and stifling the woman integral to that.

But whom the Son of Man has set free from the bondage of sin is free indeed, so there's nothing any man can do to change that.

God bless.

Pierocash:
Woman of substance. They will soon land to spew gabbage against this virtuous woman.


No one practising feminism in marriage is a happy woman. They can be pretending,but the truth is that no feminist ends well in marriage.

I broke up from a 4 yrs relationship 3 months ago with a feminist. They are so narcissistic,rebellious ,and lack empathy. Naija women have turned feminism into wickedness towards men. They have turned Feminism into competition and antagonism in their marriage. Some casualties recorded in marriage is rooted in this evils ideology called feminism

Agboriotejoye:

1. Good. So why do we still have to till the ground? We still die don't we? Women still experience painful childbirth don't they? Can you explain why only removal of that of woman serving the man that has manifested according to you while the others are still in effect? Secondly, I already pointed out to you that God saw Adam as Eve's leader, which is why he called upon Adam when they broke his law though Eve was the one who led the way?

2. What I was pointing out was because you claimed Jesus never spoke to the Israelites because they were still under the old covenant and I showed you examples of him correcting them.

3. Good. So you don't agree with the Pauline epistles. How then do you know Jesus saved us from the curses in Gen 3? Can you substantiate this?
Also, Jesus never said we should not have masters among ourselves. He chose Peter as his successor among the twelve. He chose Peter James and John as those next to him. So even among the disciples, there was hierarchy. There was one who leaned on his breast. Christ's admonition was that he who desires to lead others must first serve them. If you have Bible verses were Jesus said his disciples should not have a master/head among themselves, pls quote them.

YelloweWest:

I'm a feminist, happily married 16years and counting. Almost all the foremost feminist are married.
Differentiate between a bad woman and a feminist.
By the way I completely agree with this woman cos the Bible is pro feminist. Read the virtuous woman in proverbs 31. Classic example of a feminist.

DIVAD2000:
[Dear Kobo, you keep making the mistake of justifying wrong claims from the scriptures without studying it well. Open your Bible, and study it. I will leave you with this question: did Jesus choose the apostles?

hupernikao:


Criticizing you?
You arent convenient with what you did to others?

Well, this isn't criticism, it's an advice, go start preaching your message and correct your perceive error of others. That's how you will be positive and productive in helping.

When you wear the goggle of a true laborer, it will show in how you criticise others. Many times, we criticise when we don't have our own work to watch over. So much time to be scrutinizing others.

And to think you are preaching by replying or responding to post on NL says a lot sef.

What a diligent preacher. Lol

ImaIma1:

I think the major issue is that the current "Nigerian feminists" seem to have a different ideology about what feminism really is. Is it about showing hatred towards men? Is it about fighting for dominance when married?

You can actually liken them to the Nigerian redpillers who are prejudiced towards women and are always ready to put them down. Always verbally abusive and carry so much bitterness inside.

How have you coped?

YelloweWest:

I'm a feminist, happily married 16years and counting. Almost all the foremost feminist are married.
Differentiate between a bad woman and a feminist.
By the way I completely agree with this woman cos the Bible is pro feminist. Read the virtuous woman in proverbs 31. Classic example of a feminist.

Kobojunkie:
That one na lie! That is instead the excuse used by those of you who don't even have a real understanding of what it is they are agitating for.. I have spent about a week now tackling views and opinions of those against feminism and one conclusion I can safely reach at this point is that a majority of those who oppose feminism

* have no real idea what feminism is about
* (for many of the men) believe it a threat to their very existence and egoes
* (for females, particularly religious ones) believe it is against that which they have been brainwashed into believing is of God.

johnHerba:
That may not be good as it may not be properly understood.

Genesis 2:24: "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."

Being one flesh with none heading it isn't that refreshing? or they took a vote to determine who heads it.

Ephesians 5:22: "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the lord..."

So who took the vote, that maybe better if done properly

LilMissFavvy:
I am talking about the preachers preaching submission on daily basis without, preaching LOVE along with it, just as Bible mentioned it. Infact, you can never hear them remind men that Bible commanded them to LOVE/HONOUR their wife's, all you will hear is submission. End time preachings

What do you mean by wanting freedom, is there any human who does not deserve to be free? Or do feminists preach against a woman submitting/man loving.

dazzlingd:
It doesn't simply make sense....law of nature, one hand must be stronger than the other for balance

Kobojunkie:
When a man works in the same career world is he equal to his female boss?

Who told you that a husband is a boss over his wife? Where does this idea you have come from?

ImaIma1:


For that comment to be an insult to you means you have some deep issues.

Who cares about your private affairs. It's not that deep. And who are you calling "bitch?" You just open your mouth...waa and it's a gutter of insults. Who sounds like a female dog howling up and down between both of us?

Who cares if you have time on your hands or legs? You can as well throw yourself around with your abuses, since that's what you are good at. And it's what makes you a feminist.

BRATISLAVA:

Thank you.

It's obvious men don't know what feminism is. Even some religious women.

Thus anything said will result in their opposition. It is hard for the monopoly to be broken. There will be fights and emotional manipulation from the monopoly holders. But it has come to stay, just as apartheid was abolished.

saphiere:
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patani:


My question to you,
Are these Bible preachers talking?

The answer is yes

What ddd the Bible say about marriage relationship?
. Husband Love ur wife
Wife submit (no where was wife asked in the bible to love her husband)

Why do you want Bible preachers to preach something contrary... Everywhere in the world where love n equality in marriage is preached, divorce rate has increased to nothing less than 60 percent... You maybe supised that marriage survival is now only common in west Africa, and North Africa (maybe India n China) where this principle is still upholded... Southern Africa, America and Europe, marriage institution ahas totally collapsed... That's why when Nigerian men travel abroad they are seen as hotcake cos they do thier own part of loving thier wife by provision so it's easy guy women to submit... The fact is, everyone needs to do thier part. I. E husband should n must love the wife while wife should also do her own part wich is submission

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ said He and He alone is the one only Head over those who belong to Him. Do you skip over what Jesus Christ says so you can instead assert that which your flesh desires instead?

Mordecai:


Y'all be confusing disenchantment with a movement that has turned toxic with an ideal to fight for.

Feminism started out as a laudable movement to emancipate females from oppressive cultural norms. It has eventually become a man-hating, anti-male movement that will attack even the females it claims to fight for, if she so much as takes a stand for her husband, or son or any male loved ones.

Just like most Nigerian secret cults that claim to fight for emancipation, but the visible outcomes are robbery, rape, murder etc, you can all see where the feminist movement is currently and where it is headed.

Just as I will not go against my wife, mother, sisters and daughters because of some silly biases against females, same way, they will not stand for a movement that tries to place a wedge between family, friends and loved ones.

You can keep playing the ostrich, and watch your beloved feminist movement implode. More women will take a stand against it, because in the end, we all live for something that far supercedes gender, religion or race.