Havertz10:
defining havertz i'm 100% certain that havertz will be a world class player, I have done due diligence on his matter, I have no doubts, I have combed everything about him from on field to off field, before I will be pushing for people to pay attention to him is because I know that long term those that mocked and ridiculed him will eventually shut up and I wouldn't even need to waste time dragging you, take it to the bank, I just hope that he stays at Chelsea long term cause the prognosis is epic

Havertz10:
defining havertz i'm 100% certain that havertz will be a world class player, I have done due diligence on his matter, I have no doubts, I have combed everything about him from on field to off field, before I will be pushing for people to pay attention to him is because I know that long term those that mocked and ridiculed him will eventually shut up and I wouldn't even need to waste time dragging you, take it to the bank, I just hope that he stays at Chelsea long term cause the prognosis is epic

Segedinho:

He hates England players from what i have seen so far..

Even if he thinks the lad is bad..he should atleast praise him for what he have seen so far....

Segedinho:

Seems you don't know what is going on.
Outright payment =£68m

Spreading d payment =£88m.


That is exactly what Sevilla is demanding....

So I ask agn..does he worth it

Havertz10:
chalolah hasn't really been tested, transfer
windows closes in 2 weeks, we have dominated possession in the games that we have played so far, if we stop pushing for kounde because we are 2nd guessing and someone else gets him and chalolah turns out to be another empty confidence filled performer, we would be short in that position and it will hinder our chances of winning the league, if we push for kounde and chalolah comes good, then we have 2 solid defenders long term, something we have been lacking for a long time, I don't know why you people are worried about the finances, Chelsea as a football club has never been sustainably profitable, forget all the net spend hype, we need to build our brand to increase our commercial revenue, players like kounde with world class qualities are needed to achieve that

Havertz10:
chalolah hasn't really been tested, transfer
windows closes in 2 weeks, we have dominated possession in the games that we have played so far, if we stop pushing for kounde because we are 2nd guessing and someone else gets him and chalolah turns out to be another empty confidence filled performer, we would be short in that position and it will hinder our chances of winning the league, if we push for kounde and chalolah comes good, then we have 2 solid defenders long term, something we have been lacking for a long time, I don't know why you people are worried about the finances, Chelsea as a football club has never been sustainably profitable, forget all the net spend hype, we need to build our brand to increase our commercial revenue, players like kounde with world class qualities are needed to achieve that

Segedinho:

Why don't you wait until he becomes a world class before giving him the crown already.

Do you know he can fail as well.

He has been average so far yet you still eulogise him ahead of people who don't have talent but excelling so far

nateevs:


Stupid comments don't count. You dare not say this when RLC was balling under Sarri, when he was having his best season at 23.

What happened to RLC? For those of you that don't know, when RLC injured his Achilles, his left calf halved in size. He was reported at the time to have torn his Achilles so badly, it was like a horse tail. Even The Athletic carried this story at the time.

Talking about calves halving its size, I know exactly what RLC is going through as on the 10th Aug, 2014, I broke my Fibular in 3 places and ruptured my Posterior and Anterior Talofibular ligaments during a 5-aside game. After coming off a cast post 6 months, I lost 70% of the size of my left calf muscle. 7 years later, it's still only about 60% of its full size pre-injury and I cannot run for more than 60m at full speed without serious pain.

I bet you RLC has still not grown the calf back to normal size, as it's about the most difficult muscle to grow at will. Also consider that the calf is about the most important muscle for top performances for an athlete, and you start to understand what he is going through. I have lived this experience.

So you can sit behind your keyboard, make dill comments, not apply logic and call people crap without having a clue of what these guys have to go through physically and mentally to overcome an injury, and then get back to form.

Havertz10:
that's where zouma comes in, that balloon is only providing vibes at the club, if we sell him for 30m, add 20m to that, you get 50m, we can open negotiations with that, kounde is 22 and he is a serious upgrade for us, have you looked at our backline, they are all aging, rudigar is 28 and he is above average, he will age poorly as defender, Christensen is average, silva is old, Cesar is 31, we don't have any long term prospects there, our attack might be young but defenders are essential too, I want to see academy players make a name for themselves but i'm not judging chobalah like mount by saying that he isnt good enough, I watched him alot today, I liked his movement and decisiveness, all i'm saying is that we shouldn't place the future of the club on his back, cause when the pressure starts, you guys will start dragging him here and kounde will be taking another top team to the next level

popizaino:



I'm still very unapologetic concerning what I said on RLC, but make no mistake, it doesn't mean I am not sympathetic on his injury. Chelsea football club is not a nursing home for us to wait for seven years for him to get to at least 60%fitness. There are number of clubs without ambition such as assnal that can tolerate such lengthly period for him to get to full form. It's been years since we won the league, we need all players in full form for us to have any chance at the title .RLC should go elsewhere and be recuperating not Chelsea.

nateevs:


Now you have completely lost focus of your own argument. No one is asking for him to stay at Chelsea and recuperate. The reason for my post and the injection on my own life experience[b] (which I see you taking a jab at)[/b], was to illustrate the difficulty involved sometimes in players getting back to form.

The overall point was to make you have second thoughts when you ignore the lasting effects of injuries on players, and call them crap and grade B players, especially when that person had previously been performing very well at top level.

RLC may eventually have to leave Chelsea to revive his career (even I an ardent fan is resigned to this); let's just take a moment to understand why they may have fallen from grace.

fredoooooo:
Assnal next fixtures ..HAHAHA

Lana1:
Roland17 for don tire by now.
Arsenal no go kill our broda

timbros:
Finally.

Here we go!

popizaino:


I apologise on the bolded if you thought I ever took a jab. And that aside,I intentionally did not want to talk about RLC being a crap player or in other not to elongate the discussion, because unlike most of you, I don't believe RLC was anything other than average even in his suppose best form under sarri .

Skimpledawg:

His overall ball control is still a suspect but he has really improved.

Let's see how it goes from next week.

WarAgainstBegga:

You sound bitter

Chalobah be giving your Kounde or Kondo nightmares?

nateevs:


This right here sir!

And then there's James, Zouma, Sarr in the squad, yet he gets another 90 minutes after 120 minutes mid week.

Indeed he has impressed Tuchel.

Segedinho:

Seems you don't know what is going on.
Outright payment =£68m

Spreading d payment =£88m.


That is exactly what Sevilla is demanding....

So I ask agn..does he worth it

timbros:
Inter just steal Denzel Dumfries for 12.5m euros from PSV

Ibime:
Good money for Tammy.