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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by MaziAlaye(m): 12:19pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Biden suckers never disappoint lmao.. they blame trump for the withdrawal like he's still the president.. Trump had his plans, while Biden made his implementation. Can't blame somebody who isn't even in charge during the event. Lol y'all try so hard. Elected a guy who couldn't do the job during the campaign and wonder why it doesn't work out. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 12:25pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
MaziAlaye: Biden did not even consult with their allies. They are crazy lol. NATO is a joke since Obama. Trump tried to straightened them up but Biden is back to turn them into LGBT instead of NATO 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by MaziAlaye(m): 12:53pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
benalvino3:It's gonna be a long 4yrs for them coz they'll continue to blame trump for Biden's ineptitude 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 12:57pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
basilico: --- From the look of things---the Afghanis want the Taliban to rule them because there's no way the Taliban with few thousands militias should overpower the highly trained Afghan forces (trillions of USD spent) without the full cooperation of Afghanis---reports abound of Afghan soldiers fleeing to neighbouring countries or in some cases willingly surrendering to the Talibans--- ---No matter the foreign intervention (even the Russians tried in the 1980s) the will of the people will always triumph ---https://www.voanews.com/us-afghanistan-troop-withdrawal/pakistan-repatriates-afghan-soldiers-who-crossed-border-face ---This always happens with wars the US have involved themselves with over the past 60 years---North Korea remained communist and did not become democratic after the Korean War---Vietnam remained communist as well---Iraq became even more hardline with ISIS---Cuba did not budge and is still Castro country---Afghanistan is sticking with the Taliban---The US intervention often leads to the opposite effect of what's intended--- |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 1:05pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
MaziAlaye:Liberals' attitude to this whole disaster is quite predictable. I knew they would blame Trump just to shield Biden. According to them when Biden screws up, just scream 'Orange man bad'. They forget that the bucks stop at the table of the Commander In Chief, and he makes the final decision. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 1:19pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
---latest photos from Kabul---crowd surrounding the US Air Force Aircraft--- https://twitter.com/i/status/1427202316512514050 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 1:24pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
feedthenation:No words to describe this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9897201/Terror-Kabul-airport-Troops-fire-shots-air-desperate-Afghans-climb-airbridges.html |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 1:25pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
obixcel: ---There is plenty of blame to place on each of George W. Bush (the originator), Barack Obama (the enabler), Donald Trump (the negotiator), and Joe Biden (the facilitator) about the Afghanistan failure but this picture of Sec of State Mike Pompeo and Taliban leader Mullar Baradar will live in infamy--- 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 1:33pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
feedthenation: Leave Obama, trump and Bush on this one. Biden is to blame. We are talking about this now not the before 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 1:47pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
If they like, it shouldn't be over. They can now fight amongst themselves. They are all Afghans. After being in Afghanistan for so long, Thank you Biden for having the balls to pull the US out just like Canada and Britain did back in 2014. Another minute, day, week, month, year or decade would not have changed the outcome. Someone was always going to get the US out.
https://www.nairaland.com/6704353/war-over-taliban-declares 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:52pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
benalvino3: The appreciated person below responds to you better than I can. dohyn: |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 1:53pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
feedthenation:Why did they remove it though. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 1:54pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
budaatum:Trump effectively placed the Taliban in a position of power after negotiating the agreement with the Taliban. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 1:56pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
As at yesterday, planes in and out of Afghanistan. I wonder when Nigeria would send a plane to bring home Nigerians stuck in Afghanistan 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 2:01pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
You can't help a corrupt people. 3 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 2:13pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Everyone is saying Biden has fuckedup, Biden knows it which is why he tried to blame trump but the lefttists here are the one making steady excuses 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 2:29pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Biden fückup was not evacuating diplomats before setting withdrawal timelines. The rest is inevitable. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 2:37pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
obixcel: ---From the link you posted below---how is the collapse of the Afghan government, Biden's problem---yes he have underestimated the rapid turn of events--- The Taliban's stunning and rapid takeover of Afghanistan was the result not only of their battlefield strength, but also a sustained push to force surrenders and cut deals.The insurgents mixed threats and lures with propaganda and psychological warfare as they took city after city - some with barely a shot fired - eventually capturing the capital Kabul. How did this happen? Why didn't the Afghan army put up a fight? As foreign troops began their final withdrawal in May, Washington and Kabul were confident the Afghan military would put up a strong fight against the Taliban.With more than 300,000 personnel and multi-billion-dollar equipment more advanced than the Taliban arsenal, Afghan forces were formidable - on paper.In reality, they were plagued by corruption, poor leadership, lack of training and plummeting morale for years. Desertions were common and US government inspectors had long warned that the force was unsustainable. Afghan forces put up strong resistance this summer in some areas such as Lashkar Gah in the south, but they now faced the Taliban without regular US air strikes and military support. Faced with the smaller but highly motivated and cohesive enemy, many soldiers and even entire units simply deserted or surrendered, leaving the insurgents to capture city after city. How did the Taliban take advantage of low morale? The seeds for the collapse were sown last year when Washington signed a deal with the insurgents to withdraw its troops completely. For the Taliban, it was the beginning of their victory after nearly two decades of war. For many demoralised Afghans, it was betrayal and abandonment.They continued to attack government forces but started to combine those with targeted killings of journalists and rights activists, ramping up an environment of fear. They also pushed a narrative of inevitable Taliban victory in their propaganda and psychological operations. Soldiers and local officials were reportedly bombarded with text messages in some areas, urging them to surrender or cooperate with the Taliban to avoid a worse fate.Many were offered safe passage if they did not put up a fight, while others were reached through tribal and village elders. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 2:39pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 2:41pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
They are scrubbing the internet trying to delete their support for Taliban deal, man of peace no longer wants Nobel Peace Prize? odiegwu 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 2:44pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
feedthenation: Biden is the resident now, Not Bush, Not Obama not Trump Bush did not blame Clinton for 9-11, Obama did not blame Bush for Osama he handled Osama, Trump did not blame Obama he handled ISIS Many presidents including Biden have reversed so many things they do not agree with. This Afghan fall is on Biden let him handle it not pass the blame 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 2:44pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Ibime:The Biden Administration was busy making tik tok videos and feeding Joe Biden ice cream; The Pentagon was busy studying ''White rage'' and planning LGBTQ pride marches. Biden even boasted that the Afghan troops were well trained and could never be overrun by the Taliban - A BIG FAT LIE |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 2:47pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
obixcel: OK. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 2:47pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
raumdeuter: ---The bold is not true---9/11 happened during George W. Bush 1st term presidency--- |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 2:49pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
feedthenation: So what is not true? 9/11 happened under Bush and he didnt sit down blaming Clinton. Like Biden and his people like you are trying to do in this case |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 2:50pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
sanpipita: Fixated on deal that has nothing to do with Biden fuckup. Own It and take the L. Biden pull the troops before he thought about the safety of US personels and other foreign personels in the country. Biden is clueless. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 2:50pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
raumdeuter:Looks like he didn't understand ur point |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 2:51pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Tdotbluejays: ---This won't be the first time Republicans have been negotiating with the 'hardliners' from Afghanistan--- ---Ronald Regan with the Afghan mujahideens at the WH in the 1980s when they were invaded by the Russians--- 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 2:52pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
sanpipita: How many trump deals did Biden cancel already? what stops him from canceling this if he did not agree or support it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 2:53pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
benalvino3:Biden claimed that there was no way a situation would arise where U.S embassy personnel in Kabul will be air lifted from the roof top - A BIG FAT LIE 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 2:56pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Tdotbluejays: Right and the same thing is bound to happen no matter when ( prez fleeing and Talibans taking over). It is their country and in their hands now - they should either run it well or continue to destroy it and their people. God bless America God bless our Troops! SemperFi 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 2:56pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
I don't understand what this CNN reporter is still waiting for in Afghanistan She better run now. https://www.nairaland.com/6704820/cnn-reporter-wears-hijab-after |
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