BlueAngel444:
obviously there is a clear difference between what I did here and what you are potential accusing me of.

I in no way malign Jorginho, but seeing his performance drop, moving him on was a logical step as Kante was no where to be seen and we needed a DM, not one injured and the other struggling for form.

Do you honestly want me do bring out the text books you write when you want to undermine a player. I mean, with all due respect to all the time you dedicated to finding that post, it would get messy don't you think. So stick with swizz, muah

I didnt spend more than 5 minutes to get that post so don't think i spent alot on it.

You are free to bring anything and i will show you posts where i acknowledged the improvements seen (if any).

Just don't try to claim anything now as you also wanted Jorginho out.

patrickmuf:
Silva has won an international trophy and the UCL with several recognitions along the way...Has Boateng ever made it to a team of the week?

What international trophy no get name

Boateng can openly tell you he has won the world cup and the CL while on the field for all 90mins

which of Terry and Silva can say the same?

airmark:


I didnt spend more than 5 minutes to get that post so don't think i spent alot on it.

You are free to bring anything and i will show you posts where i acknowledged the improvements seen (if any).

Just don't try to claim anything now as you also wanted Jorginho out.

in my defense, a suggestive threat is not a passionate plea or desire

patrickmuf:
Italy played Jorginho beside Veratti, a proper midfield controller who is one of the best press resistant midfielders in the world and a very combative Barella...

Italy were taken to extra time by Austria, scrapped past an injury ravaged Belgium, outplayed by Spain and needed penalties and against England also relied on penalties...

When Veratti didn’t play their first two games when Locatelli was playing, why was Jorginho not found out then cos it seems you assume that it is Veratti that was doing Jorginho’s work for him so the times Veratti didn’t play, why was Jorginho not found out or even the times both Veratti and Barella would be sub off with Cristante and another player would be the ones playing with Jorginho, why was Jorginho not found out then??

swiz123:


Jorginho is and will still be competing at the highest level. Taking your L on this your league life-line is a matter of when not if.

Where is your best manager Lampard? Who is looking toward his side after his disastrous spell at Chelsea? Palace even signed a black coach while Lampard is still considering if he has a career.

Abramovich took care of the imminent threat to our corporate existence as a club. A fool who led me astray

A convenient excuse for you to use Lampard for speaking the truth about Jogginghoe. Nobody is discussing Lampard with you here. Stop switching the topic.

After watching Jogginghoe play under Sarri, this is what you said.

Stop making noise about Lampard, who nobody is discussing with you. You came to the conclusion having done unbiased research under Sarri, now trying to blame Lampard knowing it will be a popular way to save face having been caught pants down. You are spineless.

You changed opinion on a player you know is weak because it became popular to do so. You know he's still weak but spinelessly trying to excuse yourself by blaming Lampard because it's popular to do so. Cowards die a thousand deaths.

Jorginho is still lean, weak and all round disaster like you said, and I stand by that despite everything Tuchel did to protect him.

swiz123:
Sarri left us with two calamities in Kepa and Jorginho. Now we are stuck with finding a way to offload them.

The problem is, which benevolent club would be magnanimous enough to spare some paltry funds on those two players.

Sarri!!!! you shall remain jobless even in the banking sector.

swiz123:

I have taken my time to make an unbiased research or Jorginho's strength and I seem to find weakness instead of strength. Jorginho's uselessness is truly a mystery.

The decision to replace Fabregas with this clown must be the most foolish decision taken by a club.

swiz123:


He can't fit in at Chelsea due to our style of play which isn't unconnected to the physicality of the league.
However, the argument was between Jorginho and Bousquet, and the later will obviously do better at Chelsea than the former...

I wake up everyday thanking God for my physique cos I can't imagine myself looking as Lin and weak as Jorginho.

when we had Fabregas, he compensated for his sluggishness with his precision passes which accounted for his many assists. Jorginho is an all round disaster whose presence does not only undermine, but also displaces Kante.

raumdeuter:


What international trophy no get name

Boateng can openly tell you he has won the world cup and the CL while on the field for all 90mins

which of Terry and Silva can say the same?

Thiago Silva won 2013 FIFA confederation cup & 2019 Copa America.

BlueAngel444:
N'Golo Kante and Jorginho are the first teammates for an English club to finish among the top 3 finalists for the UEFA Player of the Year award.


We are witnessing history, not like some fans that live off the tales from their fore fathers who were fans

you like trouble pass Wàhálà

So na all of them deny Jorginho 3 times before dawn.

How can a player’s success inflict such delicious Ls on his own fans.

Ibime:


A convenient excuse for you to use Lampard for speaking the truth about Jogginghoe. Nobody is discussing Lampard with you here. Stop switching the topic.

After watching Jogginghoe play under Sarri, this is what you said.

Stop making noise about Lampard, who nobody is discussing with you. You came to the conclusion having done unbiased research under Sarri, now trying to blame Lampard knowing it will be a popular way to save face having been caught pants down. You are spineless.

You changed opinion on a player you know is weak because it became popular to do so. You know he's still weak but spinelessly trying to excuse yourself by blaming Lampard because it's popular to do so. Cowards die a thousand deaths.

Jorginho is still lean, weak and all round disaster like you said, and I stand by that despite everything Tuchel did to protect him.

I am still well aware of his weakness. I once told you this here. Every player has a weakness, that's why they are human.

What a good manager does is to find the best approach to shield his players' weaknesses from opponents. You and airmark made fun of Rudiger... Now look at him under TT.

Raumdeuter warned us that all our players were playing poorly and it was Lampard's fault.. You wouldn't hear of this..
We slandered Rudiger,Kepa, Jorginho, even Kante was not spared. But the biggest problem was starring at us in the face and you and your herds didn't know it or pretended not to.

When we got rid of the pest, our seeds started bearing fruits and in less than 5 months, our harvest was bountiful.

All I see are men just going round the table making arguments….
Start from point A and return back to point A…
Lol
I greet u all bosses!

swiz123:


I am still well aware of his weakness. I once told you this here. Every player has a weakness, that's why they are human.

What a good manager does is to find the best approach to shield his players' weaknesses from opponents.

We will see how Tuchel parking bus to shield Jorginhos weakness will win him the league.

Everyone from West Brom to Villa to Leicester were still rãping Jorginho on the domestic level even under Tuchel last season.

You think parking bus in tournaments and relying on single goals and luck will satisfy the needs of being a team consistent enough to beat majority of opponents

If he is not a base to build on week in, week out, you are just going on a fool's errand making him out to be a key player for Chelsea to build on. His weakness is still fundamental to the team.

Anybody can win a tournament with Mikel in 2012, but cannot build a consistent team on him. You can ask around how much I backed my points on Mikel in 2012 till it became evident to all and sundry.

Na here we dey. I am not a coward that will have an opinion on a player and be swayed by tactical circumstance and luck in tournaments. The proof will be in the consistency. Either Chelsea continue to stumble along parking bus to protect Jorginho while grinding out slim wins or dropping points, or Chelsea get a DM that can allow them to go on the front foot and win games comfortably consistently.

Lampard did not do anything to that boy. Lampard gave him shirt, but played attacking football that exposed Jorginho. Same thing with Sarri who played offensive football and was hurt by that boy getting run over by Bournemouth 4-0 and City 6-0. The minute Tuchel decides he wants to go for consistent 3 points each week, he will drop the parked bus and Jorginho will let him down - or he will buy a capable DM to allow him to do that.

Let’s stick to Jorginho please

swiz123:


I am still well aware of his weakness. I once told you this here. Every player has a weakness, that's why they are human.

[s]What a good manager does is to find the best approach to shield his players' weaknesses from opponents. You and airmark made fun of Rudiger... Now look at him under TT.

Raumdeuter warned us that all our players were playing poorly and it was Lampard's fault.. You wouldn't hear of this..
We slandered Rudiger,Kepa, Jorginho, even Kante was not spared. But the biggest problem was starring at us in the face and you and your herds didn't know it or pretended not to.

When we got rid of the pest, our seeds started bearing fruits and in less than 5 months, our harvest was bountiful. [/s]

Tagging a player, an all around DISASTER is more than just having a weakness bro. You even said he is too weak to be a footballer.

If Jorginho's mum read all that you typed about his son that time, she would have cried till daybreak. Rest.

Almajirihunter:
Let’s stick to Jorginho please

Lampard - Exit strategy.

MorataFC:
you like trouble pass Wàhálà

you should know I am one of the infamous and disliked, yet most loved monikers on NL football section

raumdeuter:


Playing at the top level is what counts. Some players bow out, Some don't mind embarrassing themselves going to Aston Villa or QPR

You will see that the moment Silva or Terry win the world cup the following day they will stop football

Thiago silva doesnt need world cup to stop playing football. Is Daniel Alves still searching for world cup ?

raumdeuter:


Boateng is relaxing now and relishing the great trophies he won in his career, The same trophies Terry and Silva are chasing till now

Why is Sergio Ramos not relaxing at home relishing on a career better than Boateng ?

raumdeuter:


What international trophy no get name

Boateng can openly tell you he has won the world cup and the CL while on the field for all 90mins

which of Terry and Silva can say the same?

You can mention Terry for all I care, but don't just mention Thiago Silva .


Tell us why sergio Ramos can still get a big club despite his age and accolades but Boateng can't get even a mid table club?

swiz123:


Is it not stupidity to continue criticizing someone who has obviously improved. I criticize Odoi, if Odoi starts dropping world class performances, of course, I will immediately start praising him

Havertz10, take note, I'm hoping & expecting u to be a Mount's praise singer.

MorataFC:
Havertz10, take note, I'm hoping & expecting u today be a Mount's praise singer.

what has mount done to idealise praise,na was oh,he is decent but that's all

swiz123:


I am still well aware of his weakness. I once told you this here. Every player has a weakness, that's why they are human.

What a good manager does is to find the best approach to shield his players' weaknesses from opponents. You and airmark made fun of Rudiger... Now look at him under TT.

Raumdeuter warned us that all our players were playing poorly and it was Lampard's fault.. You wouldn't hear of this..
We slandered Rudiger,Kepa, Jorginho, even Kante was not spared. But the biggest problem was starring at us in the face and you and your herds didn't know it or pretended not to.

When we got rid of the pest, our seeds started bearing fruits and in less than 5 months, our harvest was bountiful.

After all the evidence against you, you still get strength to type?

Man court don rise. Go home. You've lost this case. Judgement for Ibime.

raumdeuter:


What international trophy no get name

Boateng can openly tell you he has won the world cup and the CL while on the field for all 90mins

which of Terry and Silva can say the same?

Your club president chased the calamitous defender to the nearest bush in Munich.

swiz123:


I will never be caught borrowing anyone's opinion. My opinion about players is strictly about your performances. Of course, performance can change and I am always ready to welcome the positives

So said every man, your opinion is your opinion, but every other person that's against it belongs to an herd, hmm.

You are too quick to play the herd card jor, everytime herd this, herd that. You be shepherd?

OJURONGBE1:


Thiago Silva won 2013 FIFA confederation cup & 2019 Copa America.

See the tournaments things wey some countries dey withdraw their best players and send second team for

popizaino:

Thiago silva doesnt need world cup to stop playing football. Is Daniel Alves still searching for world cup ?

Dani Alves won the CL as an active player on the field, Silva nko? The only final he played full 90, he was found wanting

popizaino:



You can mention Terry for all I care, but don't just mention Thiago Silva .


Tell us why sergio Ramos can still get a big club despite his age and accolades but Boateng can't get even a mid table club?

Why be say Silva and Terry no fit win the biggest trophy in world football

airmark:


Your club president chased the calamitous defender to the nearest bush in Munich.

Did that stop Boateng from being a starter at Bayern after that?

raumdeuter:


Did that stop Boateng from being a starter at Bayern after that?

I heard lewa is tired of Bayern liga.
Boateng nor be great defender. U don see defender wey play for big club become club less at 32. I first watched him at man city, he was positionally poor and out of place. There is a reason Hummel made team of the tournament in that wc.

afrodoc2:

So na all of them deny Jorginho 3 times before dawn.

How can a player’s success inflict such delicious Ls on his own fans.

Doc I taya ,I just taya... Even your man utd brother nani ,no hate ole reach this level...help us chook mouth oooo

Spy360:

After all the evidence against you, you still get strength to type?

Man court don rise. Go home. You've lost this case. Judgement for Ibime.

But sir ,ibime no gree swallow his own L nah

BlueMann:


That Martinez role is tailor made for Werner, who always thrived playing around a bigger striker up front.

But the Werner sef...

Werner. Dude can't stay onside and loves to go wide instead of cutting or moving inside.

Either way, he plays for Chelsea, so we gast to support him sha, and hopefully he comes good.

The kind arguments for this thread. People get time oo.