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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BARAJ92(m): 9:22am On Aug 22, 2021 |
patrickmuf:Even with the analysis of Thelequte, it is quite clear that man Utd have a larger squad with man city edging it out in superior quality replacement in midfield. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 9:24am On Aug 22, 2021 |
patrickmuf:so you see... Now you want two conditions to be satisfied before you can stop being a complainant. Play well and win league. Now we have to start looking for that manager that can play well and win league altogether. While you want two conditions to be met, some of your associates may want three or four conditions to be met. Insatiable lots!!! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:26am On Aug 22, 2021 |
lekkie073:You are a fan just like anyone else here, react the way you choose whatever suits you. You have no right to tackle others for the opinions they hold or label them complainants or whatever your brain can think of... As I told you earlier, you can scroll past, nobody force you to read... 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 9:29am On Aug 22, 2021 |
patrickmuf: 1. Lindelof isn’t even fit to be United material for his preferred position (RCB) but you think there won’t be a significant drop in quality if he replaces Maguire at LCB. O wrong nao. 2. Dalot is a freaking liability defensively. The drop in quality defensively between him and AWB in is like from 85 to 40. He edges AWB offensively but it’s just a little bit. We’ve seen him play. We know his weaknesses. Same with AWB. 3. Pogba cannot deputize for Bruno at AM without that major drop in quality, mostly because of his speed. I mean, Pogba is a top quality player but fast play and making quick decisions in tight spaces- the requirements for an AM- is not his forte. It was here we kept buying players to “unlock” Pogba. We didn’t know it was Pogba that needed to unlock someone else. Sancho is the only one I think can play that AM like Bruno and we won’t see a major drop in quality. And he’s yet to do that. So fingers crossed on that. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 9:31am On Aug 22, 2021 |
patrickmuf:They don turn the argument to another thing |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:31am On Aug 22, 2021 |
BARAJ92:In his analysis, he gave Grealish a 10 in AM and LWF but he gave Pogba an 8 in AM...What has Grealish done as an AM that Pogba hasn't done and even bested? That's why I said his analysis is flawed... Someone said somewhere that I am including Varane to win an argument. What kind of football do they play in England that is different from what a player with 4 UCL, 1 world cup has not faced before? The same guys were praying that Pep shouldn't sign Messi as if Messi has played in England before going by their logic...If City had signed Varane and Sancho, I aam certain they'd have said they're the best addition to any team... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 9:32am On Aug 22, 2021 |
BARAJ92: If Lingard turns into a Gundogan and McTom becomes a young Matic our quality in midfield will improve a lot. Like a lot. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BARAJ92(m): 9:35am On Aug 22, 2021 |
TrebleChamp:We don't have midfield that will fit into Pep as all our midfielder options are not press resistant. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 9:36am On Aug 22, 2021 |
patrickmuf:Barcelona from 1974 to 1990 did not win a single LA Liga, despite making second position more than five times. They went on to win four straight seasons after that. Real Madrid has its own fair share of periods of hiatus. Ac Milan is also going though its own period. This is normal in football, and it is more difficult now that competition is improving as a result of fund availability. Gone are the days players will troop to one club simply because of club profile and popularity. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 9:38am On Aug 22, 2021 |
patrickmuf:haven't you also label people with differing opinions? You are perrenial complainant. Simple! 4 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 9:38am On Aug 22, 2021 |
patrickmuf: Pogba is a top player but he is not a top AM (Mourinho found out the hard way. ) How hard is that to understand? Graelish is a top AM and a top LWF Sancho will probably be a top RWF and a top LWF. If Greenwood develops right, he’s going to be a top CF and a top RWF. Rashford is only a top LWF. And Martial is not top anywhere anymore. And not being top in one position doesn’t mean you’re total pants there. Do you understand now? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:41am On Aug 22, 2021 |
TheLequte:1. As a backup, Lindelof is more than capable...He has played on that side before and can hold his own especially when partnered with Varane... 2. Dalot might be a liability but so is Mendy and Zichenko on City's left side. No one team has a perfect 11 and bench... 3. Pogba doesn't need to play like Bruno to function in that role. You guys are forgetting that it takes quality players around you for most of your play to count. For instance, if Pogba had given that pass he gave to Greenwood against Leeds to James instead, chances that it won't end up in the back of the net is high...See how Tuchel has managed to mask the deficiencies in Jorginho's game by having more men behind the ball...That's what is expected of Ole. In the absence of Bruno, it isn't compelling that we must play an out and out AM, a 4-3-3 with a sitting DM and two CMs is an option... If we rate Grealish high on the back of what he did last season then Sancho for his numbers in the Buli and performances in the UCL deserves to be rated even higher...Early days but I am certain Sancho and Rashford will outscore Grealish and Pogba will have more assist...We sometimes underestimate the quality in our ranks... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:43am On Aug 22, 2021 |
lekkie073:Whatever makes you feel better... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 9:44am On Aug 22, 2021 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:45am On Aug 22, 2021 |
lekkie073:Nobody is saying we must win everything...A trophy or two in between is not a crime... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 9:48am On Aug 22, 2021 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 9:53am On Aug 22, 2021 |
patrickmuf:and when eventually the manager wins a trophy that is not EPL or UCL, another style of complain will surface. Abeg make i chill dey read like I always do |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LMDyaya(m): 10:10am On Aug 22, 2021 |
Omo,my input... mancity are better than us ,yes but we not far behind,yes we still need like 5 more signings to be up there with mancity(squad depth wise) but that doesn't become an excuse for the fraud not to win something.we have seen teams with worse squad depth win trophies.(liverpool 19/20,leicester 15/16 etc comes to mind) |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:13am On Aug 22, 2021 |
LMDyaya:5 more signing? Baba if you inject 5 top players into this team, Pep will run away, we will be too hot to handle... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:21am On Aug 22, 2021 |
LMDyaya: 5 ke? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 10:22am On Aug 22, 2021 |
lekkie073:Mr Man all what you wrote up their is absolute trash, i don't even understand how this nonsense write up relate to the topic of discuss. The fans that rented a plane with MoyesOUT banner that flew over Old Trafford during a live game are from Ibadan abi? English fans can criticise Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourinho, but have failed to criticise Ole cos he is a Club Legend and fans favourite. But we (Patrick and other OleOUT geng) that have sense enough to criticise him for his failures last season don't have goals in life. Very nonsense write up, Mtcheeeeew..... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LMDyaya(m): 10:28am On Aug 22, 2021 |
patrickmuf: lol,abi o those 5 signings are to match them completely or even be better, I mean quality. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:32am On Aug 22, 2021 |
lekkie073: Would be good to provide examples of clubs that spent 400m in three years without a major trophy to show for it. Real Madrid, Chelsea, City, Barca, PSG? I don’t know, please help. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 10:33am On Aug 22, 2021 |
TrebleChamp:sensible things do not sound sensible to stupid people. Just imagine yourself proudly ascribing yourself a nonsensical nomenclature 'OleOUT' geng. Were you consulted before he was appointed? So why do you feel your useless opinions will determine when he will be relieved? It is easy to criticize. All you have to do is find one error and keep blabbing about it. Any fool can do that. However, not everyone can see progress. It is only given those who make effective use of their sense of reasoning. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:36am On Aug 22, 2021 |
lekkie073: Interesting. I guess they spent up to 400m in today’s money in the same period, without winning a major trophy. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:37am On Aug 22, 2021 |
LMDyaya:We already have good enough quality. We just need a DM...If you watched Bissouma against Watford yesterday, you'd understand how good he is...He or Ndidi will see us even the gao in midfield with City... The rest is hinged on departures... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LMDyaya(m): 10:38am On Aug 22, 2021 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:39am On Aug 22, 2021 |
LMDyaya:I talk am. We need 5 more world class signings before we can say we have a squad at City’s level. I saw it coming. We just need to sell OT to get a ‘perfect’ squad. We go dey alright las las 5 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 10:43am On Aug 22, 2021 |
patrickmuf:I am currently on about the AM position though, I no get strength for the long arguments for the other positions. If you are offered grealish, foden or Pogba as an AM to replace Bruno. Rank your choice based on their recent performances in that position over recent time. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Botfuss: 10:45am On Aug 22, 2021 |
I adopt everything capitalcee has said as mine. Pep’s tactical ingenuity covers a lot for his players. That’s why some think they have a better squad. 1 vs 1–no city player can completely relegate ours in any position. Since ole joined, I’ve never heard him say he signed a player because he fits into his playing style , because there’s no style. It’s always about the DNA. Ole has no excuse this season Abeg. That squad is good enough for any coach to challenge for the biggest prices. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 10:47am On Aug 22, 2021 |
BARAJ92:Oga no dey talk this things abeg. Did James start when we played Southampton 9:0? Stop using coincidence as focal point, in the high scoring matches as an attacker how many goals did he score? Or even assist? Make una dey rest abeg. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:49am On Aug 22, 2021 |
KingAlabi:The thing is that we don't have to play 4-2-3-1 all the time. In the absence of Bruno, we should rather play 4-3-3... But if I must answer your question, I'll rank the as follows; 1. Pogba 2. Foden 3. Grealish Grealish is a fine player but he hangs onto the ball too much. Pogba sometimes over does things but if he sees the movement, he will make the pass and 6 (if not higher) out of 10 times, it's inch perfect... Foden's first instinct is to create space to score or make the run to score. He isn't very creative so, I'd rather deploy him as an inverted wing forward |
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