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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 11:47am On Aug 23, 2021
Understanding the building materials market in Nigeria.

This thread is for everything in building construction, of which building materials is a strong part of. We want to xray the building materials market, procurement processes and the best way to position yourself so you can get the best of the open market. Part of my growing up years were spent in a market in Enugu, so I know the inside operations of a normal market.

There are two types of building materials markets operating in Nigeria, the Supermarkets and the open market, in the supermarkets, tou can get your materials in a more organized manner, goods are well arranged and sometimes the costs are known and displayed on items. You can even get a price quote online, there are no chances of haggling for prices, the best you can get is a discount from the owners or managers. But these shops are very few at this time of our economic development.

We are going to concern ourselves with the open markets, because they constitute over 90% of the purchases we make as small players in the construction sector in Nigeria. I am talking of markets like Alaba international market, Main market Onitsha, Orile, Tejuosho, Dei Dei in Abuja, Mile 3 market in Port Harcourt, Building materials international market, Ogidi, Anambra state, plus other markets across the country where building materials are sold.

The open market is mostly controlled by sole proprietors, those entrepreneurs that own their business and control it directly, by themselves, their immediate family members or by their workers and apprentices. These people take all the risks and usually operate with zero insurance. They also dont get any help from any government as they build their own markets and operate them. If these groups of sellers lose their wares either by road accidents, fire, rain, flood or theft, they absorb all the impact and can go under, or restart their business if they can raise more funds. Some goods can also expire even while inside the shops, or go obsolete. I am just preparing our minds so we can understand why some things happen the way they do in our markets.

There are about three types of sellers in every market, they are the wholesalers, the retailers and the hustlers.

The wholesalers dont usually advertise their precence, or their locations, in fact, most wholesalers are either manufacturers or importers. They like to sell their goods to only known major retailers, while they remain in the background to advertise their goods and collect their payments. The wholesalers sells good on credit to trusted retailers, sometimes on credit. If you as a small buyer gets to meet a whole seller, you will discover that most building materials are cheaper than what you have been paying for them. Wholesale prices are much cheaper, but the problem is on how to find the funds to buy on wholesale, or who will lead you to a wholesaler.

The retailer buys from the wholesaler, in bulk. He then displays his goods for smaller buyers like us, and factors in his overheads and his profits. The retailer usually has many shops staffed by workers and apprentices, and sometimes, a warehouse where bigger quantities are stocked. They usually stay in their showrooms where they sample latest products. The retailers might not have time to persuade customers compared to the next group.

Then there are the hustlers, they are everywhere, they are well known to everyone, they are just in the market to direct you to whatever you want to buy, at a cost of course. They sell everything in the market, while they have no shops of their own. They are usually efficient salespeople, sweettalking people into buying things they dont need, and assuring you of the best performances of their chosen brand of products. They are also well dressed, well spoken, exudes confidence while interacting with customers. They can invade and occupy any shop and claim to be the owner, and the owners shift for them to sell the goods, funny right?

Well, the psychology behind the hustlers is that they serve a need in the market. They close the gap between the customers who has little knowledge about the market and the actual goods they need. The hustlers has complete knowledge of shops where they can get bargains, current prices, plus all othe necessary information needed to make a sale. They can intercept a customer from the gate, or from the lines, they then take the people to a chosen shop where the good is sold, they sit down behind the desk and ask you to sit down also, the owner and his boys will just move away as the hustler stays to sell, if an item is selling for N100, the hustler will aim to sell at N110, or N120. After payment, he will write a receipt at the shop and order the boys to give you the goods, he escorts you out of the shop, then returns back to collect the extra money on the top of the known cost of the item, the more quantity, the better for him.

For us buyers, its usually better if we have some knowledge on what we are buying, so we can spot the fakes. There are about 3 classes of each good. The original, the second best, and the fake.

While I cannot rule out the bad practices of some unscrupulous individuals selling fakes to unsuspecting people, I also believe some people ask to be shortchanged. A customer comes to the market and asks of good A, the seller tells you the cost, and the customer starts to haggle for reduction, the seller might refuse to sell. The customer goes to another shop and repeats same, the second seller might have a lower quality or class, and sells to the customer at a reduced price, and the customer goes home with a reduced quality. Later on he will discover from friends and family that there is a better quality out there and he will start to blame the seller. But remember, the first seller told you the cost of the original.

Whenever you go out to the open market to buy something, always "shine your eyes" be careful and alert, but remember, there are still many honest salespeople out there, I have am friends with many of them and they are the first to call me if there will be a major development in the market. I get first hand gist on price increases, price reductions or new product offerings in the market. We need to work out a smooth relationship with our dealers so we make the best of our own work.

Thank you all.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 12:15pm On Aug 23, 2021
spyder880:
Understanding the building materials market in Nigeria.

Thank you all.

Excellent as usual. Reminds me of the old days on his thread. Teachings and learnings instead of the advertisements.

Hopefully other senior men, and women (Mummy Gabby) will come out now and continue sharing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 12:52pm On Aug 23, 2021
spyder880:
Understanding the building materials market in Nigeria.

This thread is for everything in building construction, of which building materials is a strong part of. We want to xray the building materials market, procurement processes and the best way to position yourself so you can get the best of the open market. Part of my growing up years were spent in a market in Enugu, so I know the inside operations of a normal market.

There are two types of building materials markets operating in Nigeria, the Supermarkets and the open market, in the supermarkets, tou can get your materials in a more organized manner, goods are well arranged and sometimes the costs are known and displayed on items. You can even get a price quote online, there are no chances of haggling for prices, the best you can get is a discount from the owners or managers. But these shops are very few at this time of our economic development.

We are going to concern ourselves with the open markets, because they constitute over 90% of the purchases we make as small players in the construction sector in Nigeria. I am talking of markets like Alaba international market, Main market Onitsha, Orile, Tejuosho, Dei Dei in Abuja, Mile 3 market in Port Harcourt, Building materials international market, Ogidi, Anambra state, plus other markets across the country where building materials are sold.

The open market is mostly controlled by sole proprietors, those entrepreneurs that own their business and control it directly, by themselves, their immediate family members or by their workers and apprentices. These people take all the risks and usually operate with zero insurance. They also dont get any help from any government as they build their own markets and operate them. If these groups of sellers lose their wares either by road accidents, fire, rain, flood or theft, they absorb all the impact and can go under, or restart their business if they can raise more funds. Some goods can also expire even while inside the shops, or go obsolete. I am just preparing our minds so we can understand why some things happen the way they do in our markets.

There are about three types of sellers in every market, they are the wholesalers, the retailers and the hustlers.

The wholesalers dont usually advertise their precence, or their locations, in fact, most wholesalers are either manufacturers or importers. They like to sell their goods to only known major retailers, while they remain in the background to advertise their goods and collect their payments. The wholesalers sells good on credit to trusted retailers, sometimes on credit. If you as a small buyer gets to meet a whole seller, you will discover that most building materials are cheaper than what you have been paying for them. Wholesale prices are much cheaper, but the problem is on how to find the funds to buy on wholesale, or who will lead you to a wholesaler.

The retailer buys from the wholesaler, in bulk. He then displays his goods for smaller buyers like us, and factors in his overheads and his profits. The retailer usually has many shops staffed by workers and apprentices, and sometimes, a warehouse where bigger quantities are stocked. They usually stay in their showrooms where they sample latest products. The retailers might not have time to persuade customers compared to the next group.

Then there are the hustlers, they are everywhere, they are well known to everyone, they are just in the market to direct you to whatever you want to buy, at a cost of course. They sell everything in the market, while they have no shops of their own. They are usually efficient salespeople, sweettalking people into buying things they dont need, and assuring you of the best performances of their chosen brand of products. They are also well dressed, well spoken, exudes confidence while interacting with customers. They can invade and occupy any shop and claim to be the owner, and the owners shift for them to sell the goods, funny right?

Well, the psychology behind the hustlers is that they serve a need in the market. They close the gap between the customers who has little knowledge about the market and the actual goods they need. The hustlers has complete knowledge of shops where they can get bargains, current prices, plus all othe necessary information needed to make a sale. They can intercept a customer from the gate, or from the lines, they then take the people to a chosen shop where the good is sold, they sit down behind the desk and ask you to sit down also, the owner and his boys will just move away as the hustler stays to sell, if an item is selling for N100, the hustler will aim to sell at N110, or N120. After payment, he will write a receipt at the shop and order the boys to give you the goods, he escorts you out of the shop, then returns ba k to collect the extra money on the top of the known cost of the item, the more quantity, the better for him.

For us buyers, its usually better if we have some knowledge on what we are buying, so we can spot the fakes. There are about 3 classes of each good. The original, the second best, and the fake.

While I cannot rule out the bad practices of some unscrupulous individuals selling fakes to unsuspecting people, I also believe some people ask to be shortchanged. A customer comes to the market and asks of good A, the seller tells you the cost, and the customer starts to haggle for reduction, the seller might refuse to sell. The customer goes to another shop and repeats same, the new seller might have a lower quality or class, and sells to the customerat a reduced price, and the customer goes home with a reduced quality. Later on he will discover from friends and family that there is a better quality out there and he will start to blame the seller. But remember, thie first seller told you the cost of the original.

Whenever you go out to the open market to buy something, always "shine your eyes" be careful and alert, but remember, there are still many honest salespeople out there, I have am friends with many of them and they are the first to call me if there will be a major development in the market. I get first hand gist on price increases, price reductions or new product offerings in the market. We need to work out a smooth relationship with our dealers so we make the best of our own work.

Thank you all.
Wow well spoken yeah there are three major type of original tiles
*Vitrified tiles
*Porcelain tile
*Ceramic tiles
There are categories on different made
*Spanish
*Intalian ties
*India
*China
*Nigeria
*Vitrified: product are most highly quality tiles standard home �
*Porcelain: products are advisable to use in every dimension floor and wall every good and quality
*ceramic:product have a minimum side of making use of it because you can't lay a ceramic tiles on a busy place it will fail, e.t.c

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:26pm On Aug 23, 2021
Blessedsunny2:

Wow well spoken yeah there are three major type of original tiles
*Vitrified tiles
*Porcelain tile
*Ceramic tiles
There are categories on different made
*Spanish
*Intalian ties
*India
*China
*Nigeria
*Vitrified: product are most highly quality tiles standard home �
*Porcelain: products are advisable to use in every dimension floor and wall every good and quality
*ceramic:product have a minimum side of making use of it because you can't lay a ceramic tiles on a busy place it will fail, e.t.c




Thanks for sharing these important tips.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:47pm On Aug 23, 2021
spyder880:
Understanding the building materials market in Nigeria.

While I cannot rule out the bad practices of some unscrupulous individuals selling fakes to unsuspecting people, I also believe some people ask to be shortchanged. A customer comes to the market and asks of good A, the seller tells you the cost, and the customer starts to haggle for reduction, the seller might refuse to sell. The customer goes to another shop and repeats same, the second seller might have a lower quality or class, and sells to the customer at a reduced price, and the customer goes home with a reduced quality. Later on he will discover from friends and family that there is a better quality out there and he will start to blame the seller. But remember, the first seller told you the cost of the original.

Whenever you go out to the open market to buy something, always "shine your eyes" be careful and alert, but remember, there are still many honest salespeople out there, I have am friends with many of them and they are the first to call me if there will be a major development in the market. I get first hand gist on price increases, price reductions or new product offerings in the market. We need to work out a smooth relationship with our dealers so we make the best of our own work.

Thank you all.

Thanks for sharing.

I’ll touch on your closing line.

I stopped going to the markets several years ago. I’ve established relationship with reputable manufacturers and dealers who do not only give me good deals and incentive to buy but also offer great after-sales support.

A good example was when I bought 90 pieces of 60 x 60 suspended ceiling led light from a manufacturer in 2019.
They gave me 2 years part and labour warranty on the product provided the issue with the lights is not caused by lightning, surge or wrong voltage usage.

When we had issues with the light due to high voltage during the testing of one of our newly installed generators, we got all the lights fixed at no extra labour cost. I was only asked to pay for the replacement parts.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 1:50pm On Aug 23, 2021
spyder880:
Understanding the building materials market in Nigeria.

This thread is for everything in building construction, of which building materials is a strong part of. We want to xray the building materials market, procurement processes and the best way to position yourself so you can get the best of the open market. Part of my growing up years were spent in a market in Enugu, so I know the inside operations of a normal market.

There are two types of building materials markets operating in Nigeria, the Supermarkets and the open market, in the supermarkets, tou can get your materials in a more organized manner, goods are well arranged and sometimes the costs are known and displayed on items. You can even get a price quote online, there are no chances of haggling for prices, the best you can get is a discount from the owners or managers. But these shops are very few at this time of our economic development.

We are going to concern ourselves with the open markets, because they constitute over 90% of the purchases we make as small players in the construction sector in Nigeria. I am talking of markets like Alaba international market, Main market Onitsha, Orile, Tejuosho, Dei Dei in Abuja, Mile 3 market in Port Harcourt, Building materials international market, Ogidi, Anambra state, plus other markets across the country where building materials are sold.

The open market is mostly controlled by sole proprietors, those entrepreneurs that own their business and control it directly, by themselves, their immediate family members or by their workers and apprentices. These people take all the risks and usually operate with zero insurance. They also dont get any help from any government as they build their own markets and operate them. If these groups of sellers lose their wares either by road accidents, fire, rain, flood or theft, they absorb all the impact and can go under, or restart their business if they can raise more funds. Some goods can also expire even while inside the shops, or go obsolete. I am just preparing our minds so we can understand why some things happen the way they do in our markets.

There are about three types of sellers in every market, they are the wholesalers, the retailers and the hustlers.

The wholesalers dont usually advertise their precence, or their locations, in fact, most wholesalers are either manufacturers or importers. They like to sell their goods to only known major retailers, while they remain in the background to advertise their goods and collect their payments. The wholesalers sells good on credit to trusted retailers, sometimes on credit. If you as a small buyer gets to meet a whole seller, you will discover that most building materials are cheaper than what you have been paying for them. Wholesale prices are much cheaper, but the problem is on how to find the funds to buy on wholesale, or who will lead you to a wholesaler.

The retailer buys from the wholesaler, in bulk. He then displays his goods for smaller buyers like us, and factors in his overheads and his profits. The retailer usually has many shops staffed by workers and apprentices, and sometimes, a warehouse where bigger quantities are stocked. They usually stay in their showrooms where they sample latest products. The retailers might not have time to persuade customers compared to the next group.

Then there are the hustlers, they are everywhere, they are well known to everyone, they are just in the market to direct you to whatever you want to buy, at a cost of course. They sell everything in the market, while they have no shops of their own. They are usually efficient salespeople, sweettalking people into buying things they dont need, and assuring you of the best performances of their chosen brand of products. They are also well dressed, well spoken, exudes confidence while interacting with customers. They can invade and occupy any shop and claim to be the owner, and the owners shift for them to sell the goods, funny right?

Well, the psychology behind the hustlers is that they serve a need in the market. They close the gap between the customers who has little knowledge about the market and the actual goods they need. The hustlers has complete knowledge of shops where they can get bargains, current prices, plus all othe necessary information needed to make a sale. They can intercept a customer from the gate, or from the lines, they then take the people to a chosen shop where the good is sold, they sit down behind the desk and ask you to sit down also, the owner and his boys will just move away as the hustler stays to sell, if an item is selling for N100, the hustler will aim to sell at N110, or N120. After payment, he will write a receipt at the shop and order the boys to give you the goods, he escorts you out of the shop, then returns back to collect the extra money on the top of the known cost of the item, the more quantity, the better for him.

For us buyers, its usually better if we have some knowledge on what we are buying, so we can spot the fakes. There are about 3 classes of each good. The original, the second best, and the fake.

While I cannot rule out the bad practices of some unscrupulous individuals selling fakes to unsuspecting people, I also believe some people ask to be shortchanged. A customer comes to the market and asks of good A, the seller tells you the cost, and the customer starts to haggle for reduction, the seller might refuse to sell. The customer goes to another shop and repeats same, the second seller might have a lower quality or class, and sells to the customer at a reduced price, and the customer goes home with a reduced quality. Later on he will discover from friends and family that there is a better quality out there and he will start to blame the seller. But remember, the first seller told you the cost of the original.

Whenever you go out to the open market to buy something, always "shine your eyes" be careful and alert, but remember, there are still many honest salespeople out there, I have am friends with many of them and they are the first to call me if there will be a major development in the market. I get first hand gist on price increases, price reductions or new product offerings in the market. We need to work out a smooth relationship with our dealers so we make the best of our own work.

Thank you all.


Nice one sir

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 2:36pm On Aug 23, 2021
n3xt:


Thanks for sharing these important tips.

Oga, help me check this quotation. I'm not familiar with this glass territory

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 2:42pm On Aug 23, 2021
n3xt:


Thanks for sharing these important tips.
@n3xt, I just finished my new office Arctic wall.
The one talked last time.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 2:59pm On Aug 23, 2021
n3xt:


Thanks for sharing.

I’ll touch on your closing line.

I stopped going to the markets several years ago. I’ve established relationship with reputable manufacturers and dealers who do not only give me good deals and incentive to buy but also offer great after-sales support.

A good example was when I bought 90 pieces of 60 x 60 suspended ceiling led light from a manufacturer in 2019.
They gave me 2 years part and labour warranty on the product provided the issue with the lights is not caused by lightning, surge or wrong voltage usage.

When we had issues with the light due to high voltage during the testing of one of our newly installed generators, we got all the lights fixed at no extra labour cost. I was only asked to pay for the replacement parts.

Getting value for what money is spent on
Is best
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:00pm On Aug 23, 2021
rotecch77:

@n3xt, I just finished my new office Arctic wall.
The one talked last time.

I hope you reserve a space for me. grin

This is cool! Well done bro!!!

More wins.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:03pm On Aug 23, 2021
coldcandy:


Oga, help me check this quotation. I'm not familiar with this glass territory

To be honest, I can’t really tell if this is good or not but I can help you get an option quote.

I hope that’s fine.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 3:40pm On Aug 23, 2021
n3xt:


I hope you reserve a space for me. grin

This is cool! Well done bro!!!

More wins.
Sure, we reserved a special space for you chief
Thanks so much sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 3:48pm On Aug 23, 2021
n3xt:


To be honest, I can’t really tell if this is good or not but I can help you get an option quote.

I hope that’s fine.
I'm game.
Thx.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:52pm On Aug 23, 2021
coldcandy:

I'm game.
Thx.

I’ll be right back with info
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 4:16pm On Aug 23, 2021
Please where can i get this galvanised mesh and the cost

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by soonest(f): 4:37pm On Aug 23, 2021
Jasobry:
Please where can i get this galvanised mesh and the cost

Where they sell gate materials in your city. Your welder will know. We bought ours btw 130k to 150k for our gate and fence grill
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 5:05pm On Aug 23, 2021
Never mind.

Enjoy your trip.

michlins:
good morning sir. I'm currently in Lagos and can check out your site by Tuesday.

Good morning and stay safe
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 5:44pm On Aug 23, 2021
soonest:


Where they sell gate materials in your city. Your welder will know. We bought ours btw 130k to 150k for our gate and fence grill

What's the size you got?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:47pm On Aug 23, 2021
coldcandy:

I'm game.
Thx.

The feedback I have for you can’t be dropped here. The difference in the cost is too much.

Can we do this via email? Or Whatsapp?

You’re free to share the difference after you receive my message.

Tnx.

_______

The total figure for a full install (labour & material inclusive) that I got is less than 600k.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 5:47pm On Aug 23, 2021
I'm back here with the issue of Michlin and the door I ordered. I made order of 3ft door and he supplied me 31.5 inches but claimed that it is 33.5inches . Now the door is now small to be used as an entrance door . He now claimed that he made 33.5inches so i can choke the door as if i asked him to make less size for choking. I'm not building a kitchen line house where i will need to squeeze my belongings through.
See attached comment from him
I will need him to pick up the door and refund me since he is producing same door for someone or charge me for the size he made as i paid him 60k for 3ft door knowing my door size .
Who ever knows him should advice him as this is a ripe off and that person that indicated interest in the door should come and pay for it and rescue him .

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jeff68: 6:07pm On Aug 23, 2021
spyder880:
Understanding the building materials market in Nigeria.

This thread is for everything in building construction, of which building materials is a strong part of. We want to xray the building materials market, procurement processes and the best way to position yourself so you can get the best of the open market. Part of my growing up years were spent in a market in Enugu, so I know the inside operations of a normal market.

There are two types of building materials markets operating in Nigeria, the Supermarkets and the open market, in the supermarkets, tou can get your materials in a more organized manner, goods are well arranged and sometimes the costs are known and displayed on items. You can even get a price quote online, there are no chances of haggling for prices, the best you can get is a discount from the owners or managers. But these shops are very few at this time of our economic development.

We are going to concern ourselves with the open markets, because they constitute over 90% of the purchases we make as small players in the construction sector in Nigeria. I am talking of markets like Alaba international market, Main market Onitsha, Orile, Tejuosho, Dei Dei in Abuja, Mile 3 market in Port Harcourt, Building materials international market, Ogidi, Anambra state, plus other markets across the country where building materials are sold.

The open market is mostly controlled by sole proprietors, those entrepreneurs that own their business and control it directly, by themselves, their immediate family members or by their workers and apprentices. These people take all the risks and usually operate with zero insurance. They also dont get any help from any government as they build their own markets and operate them. If these groups of sellers lose their wares either by road accidents, fire, rain, flood or theft, they absorb all the impact and can go under, or restart their business if they can raise more funds. Some goods can also expire even while inside the shops, or go obsolete. I am just preparing our minds so we can understand why some things happen the way they do in our markets.

There are about three types of sellers in every market, they are the wholesalers, the retailers and the hustlers.

The wholesalers dont usually advertise their precence, or their locations, in fact, most wholesalers are either manufacturers or importers. They like to sell their goods to only known major retailers, while they remain in the background to advertise their goods and collect their payments. The wholesalers sells good on credit to trusted retailers, sometimes on credit. If you as a small buyer gets to meet a whole seller, you will discover that most building materials are cheaper than what you have been paying for them. Wholesale prices are much cheaper, but the problem is on how to find the funds to buy on wholesale, or who will lead you to a wholesaler.

The retailer buys from the wholesaler, in bulk. He then displays his goods for smaller buyers like us, and factors in his overheads and his profits. The retailer usually has many shops staffed by workers and apprentices, and sometimes, a warehouse where bigger quantities are stocked. They usually stay in their showrooms where they sample latest products. The retailers might not have time to persuade customers compared to the next group.

Then there are the hustlers, they are everywhere, they are well known to everyone, they are just in the market to direct you to whatever you want to buy, at a cost of course. They sell everything in the market, while they have no shops of their own. They are usually efficient salespeople, sweettalking people into buying things they dont need, and assuring you of the best performances of their chosen brand of products. They are also well dressed, well spoken, exudes confidence while interacting with customers. They can invade and occupy any shop and claim to be the owner, and the owners shift for them to sell the goods, funny right?

Well, the psychology behind the hustlers is that they serve a need in the market. They close the gap between the customers who has little knowledge about the market and the actual goods they need. The hustlers has complete knowledge of shops where they can get bargains, current prices, plus all othe necessary information needed to make a sale. They can intercept a customer from the gate, or from the lines, they then take the people to a chosen shop where the good is sold, they sit down behind the desk and ask you to sit down also, the owner and his boys will just move away as the hustler stays to sell, if an item is selling for N100, the hustler will aim to sell at N110, or N120. After payment, he will write a receipt at the shop and order the boys to give you the goods, he escorts you out of the shop, then returns back to collect the extra money on the top of the known cost of the item, the more quantity, the better for him.

For us buyers, its usually better if we have some knowledge on what we are buying, so we can spot the fakes. There are about 3 classes of each good. The original, the second best, and the fake.

While I cannot rule out the bad practices of some unscrupulous individuals selling fakes to unsuspecting people, I also believe some people ask to be shortchanged. A customer comes to the market and asks of good A, the seller tells you the cost, and the customer starts to haggle for reduction, the seller might refuse to sell. The customer goes to another shop and repeats same, the second seller might have a lower quality or class, and sells to the customer at a reduced price, and the customer goes home with a reduced quality. Later on he will discover from friends and family that there is a better quality out there and he will start to blame the seller. But remember, the first seller told you the cost of the original.

Whenever you go out to the open market to buy something, always "shine your eyes" be careful and alert, but remember, there are still many honest salespeople out there, I have am friends with many of them and they are the first to call me if there will be a major development in the market. I get first hand gist on price increases, price reductions or new product offerings in the market. We need to work out a smooth relationship with our dealers so we make the best of our own work.

Thank you all.

Thank you for your knowledge! I actually had an experience with an hustler, he had a "shop" on jiji, I contacted him, had my boy follow him to his "shop" which off course was someone else's shop (warehouse), we bought 13 external German Steel doors from him. Now, my boy that I sent to him was also very sharp, he found that he is just a hustler and cornered one of the boys at the shop who happened to be his home boy, he told him the bottom-line price to pay (in their language)for the door. and off course, it was less than what was posted on jiji. grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 6:18pm On Aug 23, 2021
Enyinne:
I'm back here with the issue of Michlin and the door I ordered. I made order of 3ft door and he supplied me 31.5 inches but claimed that it is 33.5inches . Now the door is now small to be used as an entrance door . He now claimed that he made 33.5inches so i can choke the door as if i asked him to make less size for choking. I'm not building a kitchen line house where i will need to squeeze my belongings through.
See attached comment from him
I will need him to pick up the door and refund me since he is producing same door for someone or charge me for the size he made as i paid him 60k for 3ft door knowing my door size .
Who ever knows him should advice him as this is a ripe off and that person that indicated interest in the door should come and pay for it and rescue him .
at this point ma'am, it's obvious you want to ruin my image here. You requested for 36". Right there with the tape is 33.5. The remaining is 1.5". If that 2" is what will make you squeeze your items, sorry about that.

If I had made it exactly 3ft, you will still complain that I didn't leave enough room for the doors to fit that your mason had to break wall to make it fit.

I'm sorry ma'am but I can't help you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DwanAy2021: 6:41pm On Aug 23, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ImperialCovfefe: 6:47pm On Aug 23, 2021
Good day my people,
Can anyone throw more light on what was used in the compound in the attached photo?

Thanks. Also, is there an active thread on compound works?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:15pm On Aug 23, 2021
ImperialCovfefe:
Good day my people,
Can anyone throw more light on what was used in the compound in the attached photo?

Thanks. Also, is there an active thread on compound works?

Looks like a well done stained concrete.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 7:16pm On Aug 23, 2021
Greetings all...

I am about to transact some business with @Chizagi for some bath doors *Double panel American doors* purported to have a high water resistant ability.

I am starting with bath doors and if all goes well as he promised and he delivers just before this weekend, then more business and more clients may come his way.

He is transporting them from Lagos to Orlu at an agreed price.

I hope he gets a thumbs up from me and I shall return to tell you of the transaction later.

Una well done ooo

@spyder880
@diodarves
@mufutua
@next
@Goodfaith
Etc...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 7:17pm On Aug 23, 2021
chizagi:


I wish to take total responsibility for the varience in design for the doors i supplied to @3him3n, this is a mistake, an avoidable mistake. I promise to do better next time, to ensure that the exact design requested is the exact design supplied. I also want to request that in the spirit of one love that @3him3n deletes the initial post with details of the transaction.

Thanks to everyone that showed concern and made effort to resolve this matter, God bless us all.

Putting some trust in you now.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:18pm On Aug 23, 2021
ceelog:
Greetings all...

I am about to transact some business with @Chigazi for some bath doors *Double panel American doors* purported to have a high water resistant ability.

I am starting with bath doors and if all goes well as he promised and he delivers just before this weekend, then more business and more clients may come his way.

He is transporting them from Lagos to Orlu at an agreed price.

I hope he gets a thumbs up from me and I shall return to tell you of the transaction later.

Una well done ooo

Etc...

Wishing you all the best! Thanks for the update.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 7:25pm On Aug 23, 2021
n3xt:


Wishing you all the best! Thanks for the update.

You are welcome @next
I think stating the transactions before might put all in check before we begin fight after.

I hope @chizagi comments too and possibly give as much information he wishes to give out.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:27pm On Aug 23, 2021
ceelog:


You are welcome @next
I think stating the transactions before might put all in check before we begin fight after.

I hope @chizagi comments too and possibly give as much information he wishes to give out.

grin grin

Kobocity Style - start by starting well

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rexology: 7:29pm On Aug 23, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:31pm On Aug 23, 2021
Rexology:
Is this job well done by the electrician?

I think it's acceptable. Not up to Topsy level but good enough. It's better than most nest of wires that I've been seeing.

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