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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:19am On Aug 24, 2021
n3xt:


1200 x 1200

I have 104” width by 60” depth space for my master bathroom. I ended with this small space because I carved out my safe room from it which is a ridiculous 12’ x 12’.

Do you think I can fit both a standing shower and a bath or I should just go for a shower alone. I doubt they have bathtubs in 5’ length.

Edit: space is jut for shower and tub. Not including WC and basin.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 9:20am On Aug 24, 2021
30sqm = 17 cartons
9sqm = 5 cartons
8sqm = 5 cartons
38sqm = 27 cartons
16sqm = 12 cartons
22sqm = 16 cartons

These quantities are based on the assumption that you're using 40 x 40 having 12pcs in a carton and 25 x 40 having 15pcs in a carton. Included also is allowance for waste and breakages.

Laudbtc:
Gurus in the house, please I need help estimating the catoon of tiles for the following square meter and the cost per pack.
30 square meter (40x 40)
9 square meter. (40x 40)
8 square meter. (40x 40)
38 square meter. (25x 40)
16 square meter. (40x 40)
22 square meter. (25x 40)
Thank you.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:25am On Aug 24, 2021
InvertedHammer:


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If that's the case, won't it be fair to quote 1160mm x 1160mm(since it is the actual build) instead of 1200mm x 1200mm? That is factoring in the reductions on both sides just to avoid confusion.

Life is simple.

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Actually you might quote so for “fit in burglary”
If it’s kind of “covered burglary” this type of burglary do extends beyond the wall opening size i.e if your window opening is 1200*1200 then the burglary will be 1300*1300 size. ( This design is very common is eastern part bcs of the size of block they used mostly there (6” block) it doesn’t accommodated burglary and window in Most cases.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 9:33am On Aug 24, 2021
n3xt:
The 30m requirement is not a Nigerian thing. Check IS 3414 code, it specifically mentioned 30m, although newer research has nullified it.

Regardless, expansion and contraction causes stress and the longer the building so the stress.

________

How do I know?

I once did a 53m long multipurpose building and we had to introduce expansion joint to relieve the anticipated stress on the building.

You quoted and unquoted a document lol. I have done 75meters without expansion joint. More so, as the structural designer, I can decide to remove expansion joint and then apply the estimated temperature variation as a load in the structural analysis.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 9:34am On Aug 24, 2021
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michlins:
you have continually called me a thief,cheat and other degenerative words without cause and yet you don't feel it's wrong. Wow

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Laudbtc: 9:47am On Aug 24, 2021
QSFemi:
30sqm = 17 cartons
9sqm = 5 cartons
8sqm = 5 cartons
38sqm = 27 cartons
16sqm = 12 cartons
22sqm = 16 cartons

These quantities are based on the assumption that you're using 40 x 40 having 12pcs in a carton and 25 x 40 having 15pcs in a carton. Included also is allowance for waste and breakages.

Thank you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 9:52am On Aug 24, 2021
Enyinne:
Have i called u names before now ? In all our prior discussion have i called u names ? No . But yesterday when u started exhibiting those trait then i decided to call u names cos thats what fit into this attitude and all ur intent is to cheat . U think by talking down on me will make any difference. I will use those degrading words as u are about the money without considering client satisfaction. The first thing u told me is send my balance or else i wont ship the doors without asking or trying to find solution. And i quickly sent u 50k balance owe to u , to let u know ur balance is no issue but the door u made is not Good .
you loose counts of when you call someone degenerative names. I remember you were scolded here about such a week or two ago
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 10:01am On Aug 24, 2021
michlins:
you loose counts of when you call someone degenerative names. I remember you were scolded here about such a week or two ago

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by naijacreativeha(f): 10:12am On Aug 24, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 10:15am On Aug 24, 2021
Enyinne:
Oga , I'm not interested. What am interested now is my door . Don't deviate from the discussion. You are a cheat and i wont mince words saying it . Rectify this door issue and hv peace as we are just getting started so be ready for more .
you paid for five (5) which have been delivered to you. I made peace with that. I hope you find peace too.

Goodbye

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 10:24am On Aug 24, 2021
michlins:
you paid for five (5) which have been delivered to you. I made peace with that. I hope you find peace too.

Goodbye

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Naijapal: 10:25am On Aug 24, 2021
n3xt:
Madam Eyinne, abeg please kindly let us find a way to resolve this issue.

The contractor had no intention to defraud you. This is a simple case of business misunderstanding and his misinterpretation of your complaints as a personal attack when it’s very unnecessary.

I’ve been there before so I know how it works.

Abeg, my sister! Pls allow peace to reign.

As a matter of fact, it was this your eye-opening complaint that made me to go and measure all the doors (local, foreign, wooden, steel, Turkey, 5ft, 3ft etc) in my house.

_________

@michilins the best thing to do now is to keep your cool and try to see things from the clients perspective.

Pls don’t assume that your brilliance was not being recognized. Try to see how your proactiveness, genuine help and smartness is not doing what you wanted them to; rather than add clarity, they added confusion.

The pros here know you’re not wrong but how do we explain this to an already aggrieved client without sounding insensitive.

It takes tact and diplomacy.

I’d advice you to stop responding to every comment on this matter and start looking for a way to get this matter resolved to the clients satisfaction.

God bless you!

Well said.
Nothing to add.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:35am On Aug 24, 2021
michlins:
Sir here's what I can assure you,if I tell you that this thing is white,go anywhere else, it's white. I didn't deceive her or anyone else


There are those who see you geninuely and there are others who don't. Because there are challenges in built environments, the most important obligation of a contractor is to satisfy the needs of the client. There are times it comes to near satisfaction but in this nearness it should be something that will not disrupt the client's sleep.

Just take all that's happening to be a learning process and try to know how you deal with every client ensuring you give them what will appeal to them delighting in every detail.

I am not holding brief for you and neither for the client. Reason is that judging by the pix posted by the client your fabrication with is in order except the client wants the frames hidden in block/mortar.

Another reason is that when a door is said to be of custom made and design it meets the exact size with little or no need for adjustments.

The above is one of the reasons I do a door opening of 1000mm instead of 900mm.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 10:38am On Aug 24, 2021
n3xt:
Madam Eyinne, abeg please kindly let us find a way to resolve this issue.

The contractor had no intention to defraud you. This is a simple case of business misunderstanding and his misinterpretation of your complaints as a personal attack when it’s very unnecessary.

I’ve been there before so I know how it works.

Abeg, my sister! Pls allow peace to reign.

As a matter of fact, it was this your eye-opening complaint that made me to go and measure all the doors (local, foreign, wooden, steel, Turkey, 5ft, 3ft etc) in my house.

_________

@michilins the best thing to do now is to keep your cool and try to see things from the clients perspective.

Pls don’t assume that your brilliance was not being recognized. Try to see how your proactiveness, genuine help and smartness is not doing what you wanted them to; rather than add clarity, they added confusion.

The pros here know you’re not wrong but how do we explain this to an already aggrieved client without sounding insensitive.

It takes tact and diplomacy.

I’d advice you to stop responding to every comment on this matter and start looking for a way to get this matter resolved to the clients satisfaction.

God bless you!

Correct!
Weldon sir

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dennis3D(m): 10:43am On Aug 24, 2021
Speechless...
Same thing happening always here.
Very unfortunate.
sad sad

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 11:02am On Aug 24, 2021
bixton:



There are those who see you geninuely and there are others who don't. Because there are challenges in built environments, the most important obligation of a contractor is to satisfy the needs of the client. There are times it comes to near satisfaction but in this nearness it should be something that will not disrupt the client's sleep.

Just take all that's happening to be a learning process and try to know how you deal with every client ensuring you give them what will appeal to them delighting in every detail.

I am not holding brief for you and neither for the client. Reason is that judging by the pix posted by the client your fabrication with is in order except the client wants the frames hidden in block/mortar.

Another reason is that when a door is said to be of custom made and design it meets the exact size with little or no need for adjustments.

The above is one of the reasons I do a door opening of 1000mm instead of 900mm.

Even in the noise and distractions, here's what I promise my clients. If I tell you that this thing is white, that's what it is. Another thing is to do my best to satisfy the client.

What I can't do however is sell my self respect and dignity to appease someone. My goal is to deliver quality service while making honest living

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 11:02am On Aug 24, 2021
K.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:12am On Aug 24, 2021
Enyinne:
https://youtube.com/channel/UCJe0H-cMoCbXfCDGza_BO2w

This is the video of the door supplied by Michlin contracted to custom make a 3ft door as agreed and invoice issued to that effect and receiving a 32ft door less than what i need .

Wow!

After watching the video, I think it’s safe to conclude that the Contractor didn’t do right.

The size of the door with frame is 2ft 9inches (33 inches) and not 3ft (36 inches) which was exactly what the client ordered.

For me there’s no justification for this error and I agree that the vendor should make full refund for this.

Sincere apologies @eyinne for the inconveniences this might have caused you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 11:18am On Aug 24, 2021
n3xt:


Wow!

After watching the video, I think it’s safe to conclude that the Contractor didn’t do right.

The size of the door with frame is 2ft 9inches (33 inches) and not 3ft (36 inches) which was exactly what the client ordered.

For me there’s no justification for this error and I agree that the vendor should make full refund for this.

Sincere apologies @eyinne for the inconveniences this might have caused you.
there was never a time I claimed the doors were completely 36".


I already explained what happened and I can't go on typing it all over again.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:29am On Aug 24, 2021
n3xt:


Wow!

After watching the video, I think it’s safe to conclude that the Contractor didn’t do right.

The size of the door with frame is 2ft 9inches (33 inches) and not 3ft (36 inches) which was exactly what the client ordered.

For me there’s no justification for this error and I agree that the vendor should make full refund for this.

Sincere apologies @eyinne for the inconveniences this might have caused you.

1) I went out and measured my local yokel doors and they were all ~36”

2) The China ones were a ~36.5”. All including frames,”.

Close enough is for horse’s courses.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:32am On Aug 24, 2021
michlins:
there was never a time I claimed the doors were completely 36".


I already explained what happened and I can't go on typing it all over again.


To be honest, I didn’t understand it that way. I thought she wanted more than 3ft.

The space left for the door is exactly 3ft. I think the door should fit into that space and not be reduced for whatsoever reason.

That size of door is toilet size and not fit to serve as a main entrance door.

As a matter of fact, we are only managing 3ft door for entrances. 4ft (single opening) door or larger door is just about the acceptable size.

She won’t be able to bring sofas or a double door fridge through that door.

________

Here’s a door I have on a personal project. The door itself minus the frame is 32 inches.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:34am On Aug 24, 2021
Pls kindly help me here.

Maybe I’ve lost touch with modern day realities.

If main entrance door is 2ft 9 inches wide, what size will a toilet door be?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 11:40am On Aug 24, 2021
michlins:
there was never a time I claimed the doors were completely 36".


I already explained what happened and I can't go on typing it all over again.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 11:44am On Aug 24, 2021
michlins:


Even in the noise and distractions, here's what I promise my clients. If I tell you that this thing is white, that's what it is. Another thing is to do my best to satisfy the client.

What I can't do however is sell my self respect and dignity to appease someone. My goal is to deliver quality service while making honest living


Humility is not making less of self but making self less.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Itsrm(m): 11:54am On Aug 24, 2021
n3xt:


Wow!

After watching the video, I think it’s safe to conclude that the Contractor didn’t do right.

The size of the door with frame is 2ft 9inches (33 inches) and not 3ft (36 inches) which was exactly what the client ordered.

For me there’s no justification for this error and I agree that the vendor should make full refund for this.

Sincere apologies @eyinne for the inconveniences this might have caused you.

You are only repeating what he himself has acknowledged here. Emphasis on the bolded

See quote below
michlins:
please sir, that's how doors are made. Even the prefabricated doors are smaller.

Here's how it goes. A sheet of pan is 8ft and when divided by four gives you 2ft plus 3" of the pipes. That's 30" then you add frames which is usually 1.5" on both sides. That's a total of 33"

This is the way it works. If you want to expand the size, you will have to add pipes in-between to increase it.

These things are like this anywhere and everywhere

Where I fault him is why he didn't just add the pipes or do whatever it takes to get the exact dimension he was told to make

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 12:00pm On Aug 24, 2021
n3xt:


To be honest, I didn’t understand it that way. I thought she wanted more than 3ft.

The space left for the door is exactly 3ft. I think the door should be fit into that space and not be reduced for whatsoever reason.

That size of door is toilet size and not fit to serve as a main entrance door.

As a matter of fact, we are only managing 3ft door for entrances. 4ft (single opening) door or larger door is just about the acceptable size.

She won’t be able to bring sofas or a double door fridge through that door.

________

Here’s a door I have on a personal project. The door itself minus the frame is 32 inches.


Even at that it's a no no for a main entrance door to be of that size. And of what good use is going for custom size.....

Some years ago I did a renovation for my family house. When I removed the wooden toilet/bathroom doors and took measurement of door opening it came out full 1000mm.
I had previously asked the price for a toilet door without giving out any dimension/measurement. When I later sent the exact measurement to the GMP guy there was an increase in price and I had to pay. I only to do exactly what I gave him or give an allowance of 1" clearance on both sides of the door.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 12:04pm On Aug 24, 2021
@ michlins, would it be possible for you to modify and add the pipes on site to give the extra dimension.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 12:05pm On Aug 24, 2021
bixton:



Even at that it's a no no for a main entrance door to be of that size. And of what good use is going for custom size.....

Some years ago I did a renovation for my family house. When I removed the wooden toilet/bathroom doors and took measurement of door opening it came out full 1000mm.
I had previously asked the price for a toilet door without giving out any dimension/measurement. When I later sent the exact measurement to the GMP guy there was an increase in price and I had to pay. I only to do exactly what I gave him or give an allowance of 1" clearance on both sides of the door.
the same clearance is the matter here. It's 1.5" on both sides.

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