Zouma has agreed terms with westham, officially he is no longer a Chelsea player

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popizaino:



Walahi juju is real,let's assume in a school of about 120 students in jss2 with 40 students in each arm of jss2 A, jss2 B, Jss3 C, jss 2 D. [/b]Take jorginho to be in [b]jss2 D. He came 6th position among the 40 students in his own class and when it was time to compute the overall result the 6th position from jss2 D became the 1st overall among the 120 students. Tell me no be juju be that?

You hit the nail on the head buddy

Nobody can place Jorginho in the top 5 players in Chelsea throughout his spell, so supporting him to win UEFA best is a no-no.

What you will have is a carryalong commanding prestige and wages and continuing to fit the team to his pattern of play going forward when actually that's a position we should be looking to upgrade to be consistently successful.

Ibime and co make we hear word abeg. Everyday judginho as if he's the only player on earth. This is getting annoying. Let the young man be. Abi na you dey feed him and im family. Mctchewww

Skimpledawg:

Answer am na

I already did na. Popizaino analogy is actually very simple to understand.

Nilon:
Ibime and co make we hear word abeg. Everyday judginho as if he's the only player on earth. This is getting annoying. Let the young man be. Abi na you dey feed him and im family. Mctchewww

Now, here's the problem.
I don't like how people like you get so emotional in an argument.
Next time, use logic.

timbros:


This is you hoping for a "I told you so" moment at the detriment of the club you support.

What is now different from you and Havertz10?

I don't know whether your tactical preference when it comes to Jorginho is better than seasoned coaches who saw it fit "to protect him" just to make sure he is in the pitch. Multiple coaches at that.

Ibime you fall hand here big time.

if I talk now, you will remind me that you have broad chest and if we meet in person you will beat me up

Ibime is sulking, I don't sulk, I readily accept L when wrong, i'm both bayesian and frequentist, my opinions are fluid, i'm open to new information, I like to learn and i'm shameless about it, me and ibime aren't alike abeg

They called up Benzema for Giroud most favorite competition "World Cup" and dem leave the other one behind

raumdeuter:

Bonus for going without a draw and scoring bucket full

na u dey give d bonus??

Who want lie to themselves should keep lying to themselves that Jorginho improved.

If you ask what aspect of his game improved, they will start stuttering.

Nothing improved in his game, they just found a deep lying system where he doesn't have to chase opposition. We can only get so far doing that. Nigga is just lucky to be part of Kante and Donnarumas world in the same season they carried their teams to trophies.

I stand my ground that Jorginho is the same player. Same way Sarri parked bus to draw 0-0 with Man City in Carabao Cup final, the week after getting hammered 6-0 by the same Man City when he tried to play an attacking set-up with the same Jorginho.

Jorginho hasn't improved one iota. Infact his passing game disappeared in order for us to park the bus to protect him.

The season is long and demands consistency, not bus parking, and those weaknesses will be called out as we go along. We die here.

Ibime:



You are looking at award and bragging rights, I am looking at the future of the club. An award for an undeserving player who is not top 5 in Chelsea players in any season he has played only comes with future traps - him getting a long term contract at a salary befitting of a UEFA Men's POTY etc, carrying a liability forward that you have to live with for the next few years and cannot shift easily to another club, just because he had a lucky summer.

so because you failed in the past means you're going to be a failure tomorrow. It means you can never celebrated today. wow how do you.....

popizaino:



Walahi juju is real,let's assume in a school of about 120 students in jss2 with 40 students in each arm of jss2 A, jss2 B, Jss3 C, jss 2 D. [/b]Take jorginho to be in [b]jss2 D. He came 6th position among the 40 students in his own class and when it was time to compute the overall result the 6th position from jss2 D became the 1st overall among the 120 students. Tell me no be juju be that?

you left out the part that class arm D finished best, and that 6th position student was the captain and also assistant teacher that helped every excel, plus his extra curricular activities that made him voted best student of the year.


Like only grades mean the most intelligent or best student or one would become great in life.

Ibime:
Who want lie to themselves should keep lying to themselves that Jorginho improved.

If you ask what aspect of his game improved, they will start stuttering.

Nothing improved in his game, they just found a deep lying system where he doesn't have to chase opposition. We can only get so far doing that. Nigga is just lucky to be part of Kante and Donnarumas world in the same season they carried their teams to trophies.

I stand my ground that Jorginho is the same player. Same way Sarri parked bus to draw 0-0 with Man City in Carabao Cup final, the week after getting hammered 6-0 by the same Man City when he tried to play an attacking set-up with the same Jorginho.

Jorginho hasn't improved one iota. Infact his passing game disappeared in order for us to park the bus to protect him.

The season is long and demands consistency, not bus parking, and those weaknesses will be called out as we go along. We die here.

Okay man. We don hear

Ibime:
Who want lie to themselves should keep lying to themselves that Jorginho improved.

If you ask what aspect of his game improved, they will start stuttering.

Nothing improved in his game, they just found a deep lying system where he doesn't have to chase opposition. We can only get so far doing that. Nigga is just lucky to be part of Kante and Donnarumas world in the same season they carried their teams to trophies.

I stand my ground that Jorginho is the same player. Same way Sarri parked bus to draw 0-0 with Man City in Carabao Cup final, the week after getting hammered 6-0 by the same Man City when he tried to play an attacking set-up with the same Jorginho.

Jorginho hasn't improved one iota. Infact his passing game disappeared in order for us to park the bus to protect him.

The season is long and demands consistency, not bus parking, and those weaknesses will be called out as we go along. We die here.

You claim that Italy & Chelsea found a system that fits Jorginho? Isn't that to his credit? Does that not prove how important he is to teams and their setups, if they can (according to you) adjust systems just to suit him, when there are 10 more players in the team?

Maybe until Jorginho hangs his balls on a stake, before you agree he's an important player & deserving of the accolades..

Ibime:


Consistency in the league will prove whether protecting him by parking bus works consistently. Anyone can park bus to win a tournament with specific preparation and tactical instructions, but parking bus to win 30 out of 38 games is a different kettle of fish.

So far as I see, no Chelsea manager has had a different profile of DM to work with so of course they will do what they have to do with what's available.

if Jorginho is not important they can simply bench him. And use kovacic and kante..

Chelsea will sign Saul yet Jorginho will be priority in mildfield

Ibime:
Who want lie to themselves should keep lying to themselves that Jorginho improved.

If you ask what aspect of his game improved, they will start stuttering.

Nothing improved in his game, they just found a deep lying system where he doesn't have to chase opposition. We can only get so far doing that. Nigga is just lucky to be part of Kante and Donnarumas world in the same season they carried their teams to trophies.

I stand my ground that Jorginho is the same player. Same way Sarri parked bus to draw 0-0 with Man City in Carabao Cup final, the week after getting hammered 6-0 by the same Man City when he tried to play an attacking set-up with the same Jorginho.

Jorginho hasn't improved one iota. Infact his passing game disappeared in order for us to park the bus to protect him.

The season is long and demands consistency, not bus parking, and those weaknesses will be called out as we go along. We die here.

why not these coaches just bench him and use other mildfielders.. does Jorginho worth it that coaches will look for other tactics just to suit him over the team..


Why can’t they bench Jorginho and play thier game. Since he is chad after all?

I don’t know why 4 coaches in the past 4 years made him priority in mildfield

Capaldi:

That's just waste of time, resources and even extra useless matches for the players.

Do you know how much such fixtures would generate even as a side tournament

Hmmmmm
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Ibime:


Consistency in the league will prove whether protecting him by parking bus works consistently. Anyone can park bus to win a tournament with specific preparation and tactical instructions, but parking bus to win 30 out of 38 games is a different kettle of fish.

So far as I see, no Chelsea manager has had a different profile of DM to work with so of course they will do what they have to do with what's available.

you type this and you claim to be a chelsea fan since 2000's

OJURONGBE1:


Now, here's the problem.
I don't like how people like you get so emotional in an argument.
Next time, use logic.

like you consider it not emotional but logical to attack your own player who is being recognized international.

I wonder who likes people like you who are judgemental

philip0906:

You claim that Italy & Chelsea found a system that fits Jorginho? Isn't that to his credit? Does that not prove how important he is to teams and their setups, if they can (according to you) adjust systems just to suit him, when there are 10 more players in the team?

Maybe until Jorginho hangs his balls on a stake, before you agree he's an important player & deserving of the accolades..

no matter how many voice of reasoning a deaf man hears the important thing is, he can't hear.

MorataFC:
which kind of mathematics be dis?
40 students in each of 4 classes equls to 120?

Edited ..... Thank you

timbros:


If I tell you say I get a single idea how this your analogy take relate wetin I post, I be dishonest liar.

Who be the 40 students? Wetin be the classes A to D? How Jorginho take be 6th? How 40 students for each class equal 120 students for 4 classes? Too many question marks for this your analogy.

. It's 160, corrected.

Now answer this ....Was jorginho among the top 5 best players for us last season?

Jorginho is a liability and he's only playing because Chelsea has not decided to invest in the midfield in the last couple of years. A system player is very dangerous, especially for a team like Chelsea that keeps changing managers.

popizaino:



. It's 160, corrected.

Now answer this ....Was jorginho among the top 5 best players for us last season?

Mendy, Mount, Rudiger, Werner and Silva in no particular order.

donjazet:



Don't forget Drogba. Ibime constantly derogated and hated Drogba. Drogba kept serving ibime LLL's back to back until he eventually saw the light.
Again, nobody is perfect but you have to acknowledge when you've goofed. At this point, it's just ridiculous seeing ibimes hate on jorginho.

Ibime doesn't like the best striker his club ever signed?

lordfalcao:
if Jorginho is not important they can simply bench him. And use kovacic and kante..

Chelsea will sign Saul yet Jorginho will be priority in mildfield

Kovacic is not a DM and neither really is Kante who is too important in CM

BlueAngel444:
you type this and you claim to be a chelsea fan since 2000's

1996/1997 to be precise

BikeMan:
Mendy, Mount, Rudiger, Werner and Silva in no particular order.

It's obvious jorginho wasnt even among best 6 at Chelsea cus I will still put kante among those 5 you mentioned but someone people thinks jorginho is worthy enough for the Men's player of the year award for reason best known to them alone .

BlueAngel444:


so because you failed in the past means you're going to be a failure tomorrow. It means you can never celebrated today. wow how do you.....

When Mikel won UCL and deservedly so being one of our best players in that UCL, Chelsea gave him 5 year contract knowing he can't form base for an attacking team. He spent the next 5 years clogging our bench.

What Jorginho did in UCL is not even half of what Mikel did in 2012 UCL sef.

Malouda and Drogba conducted last UCL draw , Chelsea went ahead to win it.

Michael Essien and Ivanovic is conducting the UCL draw tomorrow , History about to repeat itself �


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Ibime:
Who want lie to themselves should keep lying to themselves that Jorginho improved.

If you ask what aspect of his game improved, they will start stuttering.

Nothing improved in his game, they just found a deep lying system where he doesn't have to chase opposition. We can only get so far doing that. Nigga is just lucky to be part of Kante and Donnarumas world in the same season they carried their teams to trophies.

I stand my ground that Jorginho is the same player. Same way Sarri parked bus to draw 0-0 with Man City in Carabao Cup final, the week after getting hammered 6-0 by the same Man City when he tried to play an attacking set-up with the same Jorginho.

Jorginho hasn't improved one iota. Infact his passing game disappeared in order for us to park the bus to protect him.

The season is long and demands consistency, not bus parking, and those weaknesses will be called out as we go along. We die here.

Then ask yourself, why are they adopting a system to accommodate him?

The money is there, why didn't they replace him with a better DM?

Lukaku was signed without accommodating the duo of Giroud and Abraham.

Mendy was signed without continuing with the ineptitude of Kepa.

So you need to ask yourself why are coaches not using that lifeline and make him rot on the bench.

Ibime:


When Mikel won UCL and deservedly so being one of our best players in that UCL, Chelsea gave him 5 year contract knowing he can't form base for an attacking team. He spent the next 5 years clogging our bench.

What Jorginho did in UCL is not even half of what Mikel did in 2012 UCL sef.

Not in a million years .