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Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by PROVERBZ(m): 7:46pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
No.1 isah was a Muslim; Jesus Christ was Jewish. No.2 isah was considered to be a prophet; Jesus Christ was God. No.3 Jesus did not follow Sharia law. Like in this instances. Where he let a woman with a bad reputation for being a prostitute wash his feet with perfume and her hair. And in another scripture Jesus stopped a crowd from stoning a woman t Who was caught in the act of adultry to death by saying ' if any of you is without blame let him throw the first stone. In Islam women are rebuked when they reveal their hair to men that they are not married to. Under Islamic Sharia law, 'zina' which is sexual intercause between a man and a woman(prostitution) is purnished by 100 strokes of cane in public if both of them have never been married and by stoning the woman to death in the case we're she is married. Now let's not even forget the repentant thief that Jesus promised paradise instead of the normal hand cutting that Sharia law suggests. 2 Likes |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by Djauro: 7:52pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
Very true,they can't be the same person |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by illicit(m): 7:56pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
Isah was the same persona as Jesus But the narrative in the Quran differs to the Bible But u know what? We shouldn't care Both books are meant to be studied for history The world has moved on 4 Likes |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by PROVERBZ(m): 7:58pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
illicit:isah is not the same person as Jesus Christ. It's not about narrative. The narrative of John, Mathew, and Luke differ. Mohammed was talking completely about a different person as he was born 600 years later. 2 Likes |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by Kobojunkie: 8:02pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
illicit:Studied for history you say, so what "historical" evidence is there that the character referred to as "Iesous" in the Greek manuscripts is the same character called "isah" in the Quran? 1 Like |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by illicit(m): 8:02pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
PROVERBZ: Why I mentioned the narrative was because this narrator u mentioned wrote things according to his own imagination He claimed that the Jews especially Christians distorted Christ's biography He even claimed that Jesus aka Isah spoke from infancy 1 Like |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by illicit(m): 8:03pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I am a Linguist Jesus is also translated as Isah, Yisa, Joshua, Yeshua in very old languages 1 Like |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by Kobojunkie: 8:04pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
illicit:Translated by whom? |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by illicit(m): 8:06pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: The people that lived much later and now The pronunciation of those names are actually lost |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by MufasaLion: 8:07pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
Anything you say. |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by 22jumpstreet: 8:12pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
Which of the story is actually consistent? Mathew's Jesus is different from marks Jesus is different from. Luke's Jesus and is different from John's Jesus....and different from Paul's Jesus. This is to tell you that they are not writting an actual event. Just forging things as they move on. I can't fault Muhammad for inventing his own Jesus.. Who is to blame? 2 Likes |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by Kobojunkie: 8:14pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
illicit:You say you are a Linguist, right? Scholars have been puzzled by the use of ʿĪsā in the Qur'an since Christians in Arabia used yasūʿ before and after Islam,[4][5] itself derived from the Syriac form Yēshūaʿ by a phonetic change.[6][7] The Encyclopedia of the Qur'an by Brill Publishers states this has also come about because many Western scholars have held a "conviction that Jesus' authentic Hebrew name is Yeshua'"[2] and because of this they often "have been puzzled by the Qur'an's reference to him as 'Isa".[2] Brill's Encyclopedia of the Qur'an further states "It is not certain that Jesus' original name was Yeshua'"[2] However, the early Syriac/Aramaic form of the name Yeshua, the etymological link with 'salvation' (note the Hebrew consonantal root y-sh-`) in Matthew 1:21, all of the correspondences of Ἰησοῦς in the Greek OT and Second Temple Jewish writings, and the common attestation of Yeshua among 1st century Jewish names have led to a consensus among scholars of the gospels that Yeshua was "Jesus"'s original name. "Esau" (and derivatives with `ayin as a first letter) is not a realistic possibility.The name is suspect. Isa made indeed not refer to the same character that is Jesus Christ. |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by PROVERBZ(m): 8:22pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
22jumpstreet:3 of them told stories about how they knew him. People can be different with one person and be another certain way with the other. One thing they have in common tho is the events: Jesus was crucified and woke up on the third day. While isah was not crucified instead somebody that looked like him was put in his place and crucified. We know this is not true because from the Bible, when Jesus was arrested, 3 people who knew Jesus, his disciples and what they all looked like were able to identify Peter and they asked 'are you not with him?' which Peter denied. |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by illicit(m): 8:23pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Yes I am a Linguist Most of those names in the Bible , the original pronunciation is lost The same name Jesus in the new testament is the same as Joshua in the old testament There are other names that have different pronunciations and orthography in the Bible to the one presented in the Quran such as Eve - Awawu Noah - Nuru Moses - Musa Joseph - Yusuf Pharaoh - Firaona John - Yahaya Etc |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by 22jumpstreet: 8:33pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
PROVERBZ: Does it not surprise you that two people who played part in the so called death disappeared from the scene.. I mean Nicodemus and Joseph of arimathea. Maybe they nursed him back to life. According to John, They brought Aloe and myrrh which are herbs for healing... So they nused him to life and smuggled him out of the Roman province... I am just taking you through some things that might be worthy to have a second look. I know for a fact the story is a fabrication from beginning to end. 1 Like |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by Kobojunkie: 8:36pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
illicit:isn't it a mistake to assume the Quran an authority of some sort where the Arabic forms of these names are concerned ? * The name Joshua is not mentioned at all in the Quran and it's Arabic form is known - جوشوا - pronounced 'jwshwa' . * The name Jesus in Arabic form is - يسوع - and it is pronounced 'yasue' Recall, this is about establishing whether the character named 'Isa' in the Quran is the same character known as ' Jesus' in the Bible, and this from historical evidence. The Quran is written in Arabic language and we see no meaningful connection exists between the two names, not even when you consider the Arabic translation of the Hebrew form of the name. However, there is a claim that it instead an Arabic translation of the romanized form of the name Isa (Arabic: عِيسَى, romanized: ʿīsá) is a classical Arabic name and a translation of Jesus. The name Isa is the name for Jesus in the Quran. However, it is not the only translation; it is most commonly associated with Jesus as depicted in Islam, and thus, commonly used by Muslims.Leaving us with even more questions, since 'Isa' seems to be a quran-specific translation of the name. |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by speedeinstein(m): 10:09pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
22jumpstreet: How are they different did you ever read the Bible at all, the Jesus in Matthew, Mark, luke,and John's account is the same Just from different perspectives, just as if you asked different people to narrate the same event, each person narrating it in his or her own perspective. |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by 22jumpstreet: 10:35pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
speedeinstein: Really..you want us to put your point to the test? |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by Adamgeneral12: 10:35pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
speedeinstein:Seven gbosa for you Gbosa! Gbosa!! Gbosa!!! Gbosa!!!! Gbosa!!!!! Gbosa!!!!!! Gbosaaaaa!!!!!!!!!! Your brain no go disappear live you |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by RightChannel: 10:35pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
illicit: Where is Awawu presented in the Quran? Stop all this your lies, it won't take you anywhere |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by Adamgeneral12: 10:37pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
illicit:Heavy gbosa for you Ggggbosaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by 22jumpstreet: 10:39pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
Adamgeneral12: Lol..let me ask you. This has to be simple for you. 1. How many women went to the tomb on the first day of the week? 2. What did they see? |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by Adamgeneral12: 10:44pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
22jumpstreet: No gbosa for you |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by 22jumpstreet: 10:46pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
Adamgeneral12: Lol, you know the four go - spel reported different things..I will let you check it out yourself. |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by orunto27: 11:15pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
isah is Islam. Isah is Quran. Isah was born of MARIAM, MOTHER of Jesus Christ. No.2 isah was considered to be a prophet born of The Holy Spirit. It's the same The word of God, The Message born of God and sent by God. The Holy Spirit bear witness to us that JESUS IS GOD. No.3 Sharia law is The way of The Quran. GOD'S LIFE AND LOVE IS THE WAY OF THE RIGHTEOUS. "SINA" IN ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY MEANS "MISS ROAD" LIKE IN CORRUPTION AND PROSTITUTION. JESUS HIMSELF WAS NAILED TO THE CROSS LIKE A COMMON CRIMINAL. SHARIA DOESN'T PICK THAT. IN OTHER WORDS, QURAN IS A PARAPHRASE OF SOME ESSENTIAL MESSAGES TO THE RIGHTEOUS. MAY GOD BLESS YOU WITH UNDERSTANDING. |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by haekymbahd(m): 4:01am On Aug 29, 2021 |
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Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by haekymbahd(m): 4:10am On Aug 29, 2021 |
PROVERBZ:Is Jesus not God Almighty who gave the laws in the Torah in the first place.. Yeshua (Isa) is not Jesus, Jesus is a Greek god even the early christians the Nazarenes rejected Yeshua has God but as a messenger of God. It was Apostle Paul a repented persecutor of nazarenes that went to a non-isrealite location to convert people to the religion of the Roman God (Je- Zeus). Hence why Christians celebrate Christmas, Easter, take their holy day as Sunday instead of Sabbath.. e.t.c and other pagan, Ronan festivals Jesus Christ does not exist but Yeshua Hamachiak [Prophet Isa] even Peter confirmed that Jesus was the prophet like Moses. Acts 3 22 Thus Moses said to the forefathers, The Lord God will raise up for you a Prophet from among your brethren as [He raised up] me; Him you shall listen to and understand by hearing and heed in all things whatever He tells you. 23And it shall be that every soul that does not listen to and understand by hearing and heed that Prophet shall be utterly [e]exterminated from among the people.( |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by illicit(m): 4:48am On Aug 29, 2021 |
RightChannel: Nana Awawu Ask ur mallam, kid |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by Kobojunkie: 4:51am On Aug 29, 2021 |
illicit:Arabic form of the name 'Eve's is pronounced 'hawaa', not 'awawu'. You said you are a Linguist and here you keep making a mistake even a non-Linguist shouldn't make in this. Why would you ask an Hausa mallam when the language of concern is Arabic, and so your reference should be the Arabic language and not the Quran. The Arabic language itself does not draw from the Quran and so should never be treated as though it does. |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by illicit(m): 4:56am On Aug 29, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Whats the difference between Hawaa and Awawu The difference is in who is the speaker, I am Yoruba, there's nobody called Hawaa here, we call it Awawu That should answer your Jesus/Isa question It's the same name, different pronunciations Mallam and Mallim is same thing too Be realistic don't just be bookish.... The Quran was written in Arabic, no? To be a Muslim, you spend some certain years at Arabic school? No? Learning what? As a Linguist , since I haven't been to any Arabic nation, my sources and reference to anything Arabic language are the teachers here |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by Kobojunkie: 5:05am On Aug 29, 2021 |
illicit:What has yoruba to do with this? And no, what you just said does not even remotely address the Jesus/Isa question in any way or form. |
Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by illicit(m): 5:15am On Aug 29, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:It has to do with it U seem to wonder about my being a Linguist, so I am given u references A doctor will do that, a pharmacist will, a lawyer will.... Hawaa Arabic Awawu Yoruba That's your answer Many names have different variations or pronunciations either as a result of time or location differences Isaac - Jew Isiaka - Arab Abraham - Jew Ibrahim - Arab Mary, Maria (Yoruba) Moriamo (Yoruba) Mariam, Moriam (Arab) |
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