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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 8:34am On Sep 01, 2021
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 10:24am On Sep 01, 2021
edi287:

Or he feels their pain??

You didn't get the flow. He wants other families with relatives in the military to feel the type of pain he felt when he lost his son. The useless, senile old man.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 11:03am On Sep 01, 2021
LordReed:


Between 2011 and 2015 10% of US arms exports was to Saudi and in 2016 Obama proposed a 115Billion dollar arms sales agreement with Saudi. Why do you think Trump's deal shows that oil is no longer a major consideration when those other facts don't?

LordReed:


If that is the case then why did Trump go to Saudi?

Why bring Obama and arms exports history into it?
I'm re-posting the above post to yank you back to point, which is your own Trump-specific question as to why Trump went to Saudi (if not for oil, as implied by the tone of the query).
I gave you a mega weapons deal outcome of the visit to show that Trump had something weightier that oil in mind for that visit.
Again note that I agree that oil remains AMONG the interests, but that it was no longer the CHIEF, the MAJOR, the PRIME interest since America had become energy independent in Trump era.
I keep repeating Trump era because Biden will go against fossil fuel at home and America:s dependence on external sources of oil will return.
Now give me one oil related outcome of heavier weight than the weapons deal to prove that oil was the MAJOR reason Trump went to Saudi.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 11:22am On Sep 01, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
No wonder Cruz deleted the tweet. The hottest part of hell is reserved for these sons of Lucifer that have been pushing false narratives.

They roasted that one yesterday, it's clear they don't rate people especially their supporters.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/ted-cruz-america-doesnt-leave-americans-behind-cancun/

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 11:24am On Sep 01, 2021
zendi:


Why bring Obama and history of arms deals into it?
I'm re-posting the above to yank you back to point, which is your own Trump-specific question as to why Trump went to Saudi (if not for oil, as implied by the tone of the querry).
I gave you a mega weapons deal outcome of the visit to show that Trump had something weightier that oil in mind for that visit.
Again note that I agree that oil remains AMONG the interests, but that it was no longer the CHIEF, the MAJOR, the PRIME interest since America had become energy independent in Trump era.
I keep repeating Trump era because Biden will go after fossil fuel at home and America:s dependence on external sources of oil will return.
Now give me one oil related outcome of heavier weight than the weapons deal to prove that oil was the MAJOR reason Trump went to Saudi.

How was the US energy independent in Trump's era when oil imports from SA grew?

I am juxtaposing the history because you are not giving any cogent reason for me to think oil is no longer a major reason for US interests in the Middle East in general and Saudi Arabia in particular.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 11:24am On Sep 01, 2021
People who call CNN fake news live and breathe lies daily, heaven knows I will never engage myself with this kind of idiocy, compulsive liars, zero shame.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by RentAghost: 11:37am On Sep 01, 2021
benalvino3:


Obigbo is not Port Harcourt. You are desperate or clueless.
oga be calming down okay, obigbo is part of port Harcourt, it is the entry point into port Harcourt when driving in from aba

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by RentAghost: 11:46am On Sep 01, 2021
benalvino3:


Show me data that shows children being shot on a regular basis in Port Harcourt. One weekend 13 children were shot in Chicago.

a lot of things don't make the news in port Harcourt bros, if you know you know, except the victims are politically significant and/or visible or the act particularly gruesome, every other death is just Tuesday so if you don't know don't claim ph or anywhere else in the country is particularly peaceful. In naija life has lost premium and we are now immuned to the shock of deaths and killings and that is just sad

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by RentAghost: 11:49am On Sep 01, 2021
benalvino3:
Muslims don't like dogs, dogs are haram but Biden Admin left dogs behind to be slaughtered.
people will give a fvck when the government starts caring more for its destitute and homeless than for its contract dogs

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 11:52am On Sep 01, 2021
RentAghost:
people will give a fvck when the government starts caring more for its destitute and homeless than for its contract dogs

This is just stupid.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 11:53am On Sep 01, 2021
RentAghost:
oga be calming down okay, obigbo is part of port Harcourt, it is the entry point into port Harcourt when driving in from aba

As long as it's not GRA, Benalvino3 won't count it
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 11:53am On Sep 01, 2021
RentAghost:
oga be calming down okay, obigbo is part of port Harcourt, it is the entry point into port Harcourt when driving in from aba

Go and educate yourself about Obigbo. You have no clue.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by RentAghost: 11:59am On Sep 01, 2021
benalvino3:


This is just stupid.
is it really? Or is it your take that is stupid? The withdrawal was chaotic but right, parallel it with the fall of Saigon and the withdrawal from Syria, benghazi and tell me how any wartime withdrawals go exactly to plan. The point here is that you're stupidly nitpicking and politicking while I'm saying America has more challenging socio-economic issues at home whose resolution republicoons will do their damned best to obstruct not for policy reasons but just for the irrationality of obstructing for obstruction's sake.
And these folks are right, why the he'll do you care more about Biden's chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan while we have buhari backed jihadist threatening our lives here at home? Isn't that a case of misplaced priorities?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by RentAghost: 12:05pm On Sep 01, 2021
benalvino3:


Go and educate yourself about Obigbo. You have no clue.
I don't need to, you're harping on technicalities as a defence, obigbo is part of port Harcourt metropolis and nothing you say is going to change that. Funny thing is the curfew placed on ph is enforced from that imo river bridge at the entrance to obigbo and yet you claim obigbo is not ph

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 12:06pm On Sep 01, 2021
RentAghost:
is it really? Or is it your take that is stupid? The withdrawal was chaotic but right, parallel it with the fall of Saigon and the withdrawal from Syria, benghazi and tell me how any wartime withdrawals go exactly to plan. The point here is that you're stupidly nitpicking and politicking while I'm saying America has more challenging socio-economic issues at home whose resolution republicoons will do their damned best to obstruct not for policy reasons but just for the irrationality of obstructing for obstruction's sake.
And these folks are right, why the he'll do you care more about Biden's chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan while we have buhari backed jihadist threatening our lives here at home? Isn't that a case of misplaced priorities?

Withdrawal will go exactly as planed if there was actually a plan.

It does not make sense what you said because it takes no effort to transport those dogs out.

You talk about destitute and homelessness but the border is wide open and the fly and bus in illegals and house them while others suffer.

How many criminals from Afghanistan and isis terrorists will they be housing in the US and all over the world? The US flew out some convicted criminals deported back to Afghanistan all around the world. This just goes to show they have no clue of most of the people they will be housing in different part of the world.

This has nothing to do with the fool buhari. If you want you can open another thread so we can discuss that. I don't see how you are jumping to buhari on this one.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by RentAghost: 12:07pm On Sep 01, 2021
pryme:


You forgot one small detail, when someone farts will you are wearing a mask you get the gas.

This is one of the worst analogy you can bring up, using liquid to compare with a virus.
except in chemistry pure gas is different from colloids and suspensions so the analogy is perfectly accurate if you don't mind me emphasising that way, it is your understanding that is not

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 12:08pm On Sep 01, 2021
RentAghost:
I don't need to, you're harping on technicalities as a defender, obigbo is part of port Harcourt metropolis and nothing you say is going to change that. Funny thing is the curfew placed on ph is enforced from that imo river bridge at the entrance to obigbo and yet you claim obigbo is not ph

Obigbo is part of oyinbo at the outskirts of port Harcourt, 30km to be precise and it's a LGA in Rivers state. Like I said go and educate yourself

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:09pm On Sep 01, 2021
LordReed:


How was the US energy independent in Trump's era when oil imports from SA grew?

I am juxtaposing the history because you are not giving any cogent reason for me to think oil is no longer a major reason for US interests in the Middle East in general and Saudi Arabia in particular.

Looks like you are challenged economically.You don't order 200k litres of oil ,wait to sell it and order more. You hedge a price , do a contract say annual.
US was a net energy exporter.Was exporting more than importing.
In other words if all contracts (impex )were cancelled then it would not need any import of oil and gas.
Middle East needs to be stable because of oil.Shortage of ME oil sends oil prices up all over the world. The development of shale oil in US has helped oil consuming economies stabilise their forex reserves by way of lowered oil prices.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 12:16pm On Sep 01, 2021
basilico:


Looks like you are challenged economically.You don't order 200k litres of oil ,wait to sell it and order more. You hedge a price , do a contract say annual.
US was a net energy exporter.Was exporting more than importing.
In other words if all contracts (impex )were cancelled then it would not need any import of oil and gas.
Middle East needs to be stable because of oil.Shortage of ME oil sends oil prices up all over the world. The development of shale oil in US has helped oil consuming economies reduce their forex reserves by way of lowered oil prices.

Mr Economics Expert tell me why oil imports from Saudi grew in the period Trump was president.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by RentAghost: 12:17pm On Sep 01, 2021
benalvino3:


Withdrawal will go exactly as planed if there was actually a plan.

It does not make sense what you said because it takes no effort to transport those dogs out.

You talk about destitute and homelessness but the border is wide open and the fly and bus in illegals and house them while others suffer.

How many criminals from Afghanistan and isis terrorists will they be housing in the US and all over the world? The US flew out some convicted criminals deported back to Afghanistan all around the world. This just goes to show they have no clue of most of the people they will be housing in different part of the world.

This has nothing to do with the fool buhari. If you want you can open another thread so we can discuss that. I don't see how you are jumping to buhari on this one.
wrong, no withdrawal under fire ever went according to plan because you can not be in control of all the determining factors at all times, that is the reality of military engagements. You can make your best plans and hope your subordinates are capable enough to improvise on the fly when any aspect of your plans deviates from parameters.
You're not in military logistics, supply and transport as they are called here in Nigeria and yet you make bold claims about the efficacy of implementing plans when means are scarce and demand is greater than supply and humans have to be prioritised.
And how will stopping the entry of immigrants at land borders have saved these dogs? I prioritise humans over them anytime even convicted afghans.

And yes this has everything to do with buhari as we are both Nigerians resident in Nigeria receiving the short end if the stick of his misgovernance and honestly I am ashamed to be seen picking the speck in America's eye while ignoring the gigantic log in ours

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:18pm On Sep 01, 2021
LordReed:


Mr Economics Expert tell me why oil imports from Saudi grew in the period Trump was president.

Saudi does not want shale oil. To make it uncompetitive Saudi plus some OPEC flooded the market with oil.

You can broaden your horizons here

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/01/how-frackers-beat-opec/508760/

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by RentAghost: 12:18pm On Sep 01, 2021
benalvino3:


Obigbo is part of oyinbo at the outskirts of port Harcourt, 30km to be precise and it's a LGA in Rivers state. Like I said go and educate yourself
oga many metropolitan cities in Nigeria house multiple LGA and in international parlance obigbo is a precinct of metropolitan ph
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 12:28pm On Sep 01, 2021
RentAghost:
oga many metropolitan cities in Nigeria house multiple LGA and in international parlance obigbo is a precinct of metropolitan ph

You are clueless like I said. Is okrika in Port Harcourt or rivers state?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 12:36pm On Sep 01, 2021
RentAghost:
wrong, no withdrawal under fire ever went according to plan because you can not be in control of all the determining factors at all times, that is the reality of military engagements. You can make your best plans and hope your subordinates are capable enough to improvise on the fly when any aspect of your plans deviates from parameters.
You're not in military logistics, supply and transport as they are called here in Nigeria and yet you make bold claims about the efficacy of implementing plans when means are scarce and demand is greater than supply and humans have to be prioritised.
And how will stopping the entry of immigrants at land borders have saved these dogs? I prioritise humans over them anytime even convicted afghans.

And yes this has everything to do with buhari as we are both Nigerians resident in Nigeria receiving the short end if the stick of his misgovernance and honestly I am ashamed to be seen picking the speck in America's eye while ignoring the gigantic log in ours

Oga, Biden withdraw when there was no hostility only for him to go back in to do what they should have done months ago if they actually planned for it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 12:44pm On Sep 01, 2021
basilico:


Saudi does not want shale oil. To make it uncompetitive Saudi plus some OPEC flooded the market with oil.

You can broaden your horizons here

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/01/how-frackers-beat-opec/508760/




I dunno how the article you cited relates to my question. My reading of your answer is Saudi used economic pressure via OPEC to force the US to increase it's imports?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 12:46pm On Sep 01, 2021
benalvino3:


Oga, Biden withdraw when there was no hostility only for him to go back in to do what they should have done months ago if they actually planned for it.


How did he go back in when all the American contingent has left?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 12:53pm On Sep 01, 2021
basilico:


These jihadists never stop to amaze me with their devious inventions.

Blackhawk helicopter is the latest form of gallows. Tie a noose around around a traitor's throat and fly him across town.
"Strike terror into the hearts of the unbelievers" Google who invented that phrase .

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:57pm On Sep 01, 2021
LordReed:


I dunno how the article you cited relates to my question. My reading of your answer is Saudi used economic pressure via OPEC to force the US to increase it's imports?

Saudi production cost of oil is very low, the oil minister is in a video talking about 5 dollars per barrel. They need oil prices at least 50 dollars per barrel within a stated output per day to sustain the govt and its overly generous state subsidies eg education, funding wahabbism worldwide reverse osmosis plants, electric power etc.

Fracking is expensive, dig wells, pour chemicals then pump the oil out of always. Unlike simply digging a perpetual well once and pumping it out.

Increasing world supply decreases oil prices, making fracking more difficult to invest in. But frackers were able to cut production costs to 29 dollars a barrel eg by horizontal drilling making them competitive in oil prices above 50$ per barrel. Cutting production costs means being more efficient and more production.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:04pm On Sep 01, 2021
Tdotbluejays:

Don't mind them. They pick and choose what news they consume. If it's not far-right garbage, they do not care to read. I can help out with proof that India and UK left equipment behind too.

They are WWGOWGAs. It also means, what one says or thinks they all think and say, with no considering of factual evidence.

Its like they believe their brains will run out if used.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 1:12pm On Sep 01, 2021
basilico:


These jihadists never stop to amaze me with their devious inventions.

Blackhawk helicopter is the latest form of gallows. Tie a noose around around a traitor's throat and fly him across town.
"Strike terror into the hearts of the unbelievers" Google who invented that phrase .

---This story is not true---

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:13pm On Sep 01, 2021
[quote author=budaatum post=105383482][/quote]

Factcheckers also told us
Joe Biden won 81m votes
COVID-19 was definitely not a lab leak
Russia stole 2016 elections

Why should I believe that crap of an article.

Taliban is a show off group. If they had a person hoisting a flag off a helicopter they would have made it official like the way they are showing off guns, helicopters and humvees.
Those are two people. Only talking about one .
They look bound to me.
Taliban are not showing off their misdeeds like shooting a woman dead because she could not cook for them.

To protect Joe Biden fockup, Facebook Instagram deleted a Goldstar mom's account this week. A mother to one of the thirteen marines.

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