LordReed:
So according to what you told me earlier, humans will be made into a different sort of being, spirits as you said?

Nope... I didn't say anything about humans being made into anything else....Jesus Christ said those who believe in Him will be born of Spirit, this in addition to the physical birth they already experienced when they were first born.

Those who are born of spirit gain a spiritual kind of consciousness in addition to their human consciousness.

Kobojunkie:
Nope... I didn't say anything about humans being made into anything else....Jesus Christ said those who believe in Him will be born of Spirit, this in addition to the physical birth they already experienced when they were first born.

Those who are born of spirit gain a spiritual kind of consciousness in addition to their human consciousness.

What does spiritual consciousness do, makes you spirits? Makes you live forever?

LordReed:
What does spiritual consciousness do, makes you spirits? Makes you live forever?

Yes, eternal life!

LordReed:

Why do you like twisting the tale just make yourself look good? I did not invite you to that thread it was someone else nor have you silenced me, I am just bored with your bullcrap stories.

How time flies!

You LordReed says you did not purposely added my name to a thread until i asked you to remove my name that i don't have business with atheists, shey?

I thought you said you don't use to tell lies?

MaxInDHouse:


How time flies!

You LordReed says you did not purposely added my name to a thread until i asked you to remove my name that i don't have business with atheists, shey?

I thought you said you don't use to tell lies?

Bring out the thread where I invited you no long story.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, eternal life!

Ok, what else?

LordReed:
Ok, what else?

You are no longer alone for the ride that is life and you have an awareness of this. Sort of like your subconscious, or a level close to that, gaining a mind of its own.

Be aware that the phenomenon of being born in spirit is different from acquiring the Spirit of Truth or the Spirit of God/Holy Spirit even.

LordReed:

Bring out the thread where I invited you no long story.

My friend, i know you've forgotten but that's just one of those things, we are imperfect so this is the thread where you (LordReed) invited me (Maximus)!

LordReed:
One of the anti-evolution claims is that life can only come from life and it is underscored by the creation claims like that of the Bible in the book of Genesis.

Let's take a closer look:

Creation of plants:
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Creation of sea and air creatures:
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Creation of land creatures:
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

In all of the preceding passages, we are told the god speaks to the elements to bring forth living things. None of these elements are living in themselves so how can the claim be made that the god creates life from life? On the contrary the bible actually seems to favour abiogenesis that is life from non-life.

It would be instructive to see how this matter is answered by believers in creation.

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And this is how i rubbished you back then that made you stopped mentioning me Maximus!

I'm responding to this post of yours NOT because it worth considering but you typed my name along with your post!

So Tell them the truth that i Maximus is one of those you love chatting with in the past until i rubbished you and ever since then you've been avoiding me!

Kobojunkie:
How did you reach the conclusion that I am not certain what a spirit is?

Your consciousness is not spirit... it is just that, you consciousness. And what you said about existing separately, I don't follow at all.

Alright

You are not sure of what some people refer to as a spirit as confessed by you

It's of no use denying that one


Can your consciousness exist outside you?

Kobojunkie:
How did you reach the conclusion that I am not certain what a spirit is?

Your consciousness is not spirit... it is just that, you consciousness. And what you said about existing separately, I don't follow at all.

Alright

You are not sure of what some people refer to as a spirit as confessed by you


Anyway
Can your consciousness exist outside you?

HellVictorinho:

Alright
You are not sure of what some people refer to as a spirit as confessed by you
It's of no use denying that one
Can your consciousness exist outside you?

Anyone who believes and is baptized can indeed be born of spirit as this is process of salvation, but those who are not have no spirit, even though some of them claim their very own consciousness is spirit.

Apparently,yes, my consciousness can exist outside of my body.

Kobojunkie:
Anyone who believes and is baptized can indeed be born of spirit as this is process of salvation, but those who are not have no spirit, even though some of them claim their very own consciousness is spirit.

Apparently,yes, my consciousness can exist outside of my body.

What is your consciousness?

HellVictorinho:
What is your consciousness?

the Self or ego

MaxInDHouse:


My friend, i know you've forgotten but that's just one of those things, we are imperfect so this is the thread where you (LordReed) invited me (Maximus)!



And this is how i rubbished you back then that made you stopped mentioning me Maximus!



So Tell them the truth that i Maximus is one of those you love chatting with in the past until i rubbished you and ever since then you've been avoiding me!

Ahh, I forgot that you are Maximus69. How is you post rubbishing me? You’re just boring now with your long pointless stories so I don’t bother.

Kobojunkie:
the Self or ego

What is the self?

HellVictorinho:

What is the self?

The one you refer to as you.

LordReed:


Ok, what else?

He is just repeating what is in the Bible



'The eternal life' is just part of the Biblical refuse

Kobojunkie:
The one you refer to as you.

How can you exist outside you?

HellVictorinho:
How can you exist outside you?

This belief comes from my being a follower of Jesus Christ. Essentially, even when my body is dust, my consciousness continues on afterwards.

That's why i quickly corrected myself because i thought as much that you must have forgotten!
So MaxInDHouse and Maximus69 both had something in common: pointless boring stories!
Yet you remember that MaxInDHouse was the one telling you boring stories but you forgot that it's Maximus69 even with the same signature, shey?

My friend, you're number one truth sayer on Nairaland jare you no sabi LIE at all!

LordReed:

Ahh, I forgot that you are Maximus69. How is you post rubbishing me? You’re just boring now with your long pointless stories so I don’t bother.

Kobojunkie:
This belief comes from my being a follower of Jesus Christ. Essentially, even when my body is dust, my consciousness continues on afterwards.

You follow Jesus so you will exist outside you after you cease to exist


Keep following in vain !

HellVictorinho:
Why do you follow Jesus?

Let me put it this way, He makes sense to me where nothing else does.

HellVictorinho:
You follow Jesus so you will exist outside you after you cease to exist
Keep following in vain !

You need to pay closer attention to what is written so you don't get lost so often. When you are in Jesus Christ, you are saved from condemnation meaning no longer will you cease to exist when you die. Think of it this way, you get an adapter module appended to your consciousness with keeps your consciousness from ceasing after its time on earth is up.

How do you that my following Him is in vain?

Kobojunkie:
Let me put it this way, He makes sense to me where nothing else does.

The truth is that there is no reason why you believe in Jesus or/and believe you will achieve something important if you keep showing that you believe in Jesus

MaxInDHouse:
That's why i quickly corrected myself because i thought as much that you must have forgotten!
So MaxInDHouse and Maximus69 both had something in common: pointless boring stories!
Yet you remember that MaxInDHouse was the one telling you boring stories but you forgot that it's Maximus69 even with the same signature, shey?

My friend, you're number one truth sayer on Nairaland jare you no sabi LIE at all!

A moniker you deleted, why is it far fetched that I forgot?

HellVictorinho:
The truth is that there is no reason why you believe in Jesus or/and believe you will achieve something important if you keep showing that you believe in Jesus

You are free to believe as you choose.... just be sure not to keep confusing your delusions for mine.

LordReed:


Another question, if a Christian lives all their life without experiencing “the manifest presence of god” does that mean they are spiritually dead? Have you experienced “the manifest presence of god”?

Lol.. i already told you I'm not well-versed on the subject of your question so i don't understand why you are still questioning me

Kobojunkie:
You need to pay closer attention to what is written so you don't get lost so often. When you are in Jesus Christ, you are saved from condemnation meaning no longer will you cease to exist when you die. Think of it this way, you get an adapter module appended to your consciousness with keeps your consciousness from ceasing after its time on earth is up.

How do you that mu following Him is in vain?

Dying means ceasing to exist


If you don't cease to exist,then you don't die.


According to you, your consciousness is you.


Let's define ceasing to exist on Earth



If it means that you will vanish from the Earth without decomposing,then it means you will be able exist outside the Earth


But how can you remain after all your organs stop working?



Don't just say you will remain


State the form in which you will remain



What will you be doing after all your organs stop working?

Kobojunkie:
You are free to believe as you choose.... just be sure not to keep confusing your delusions for mine.

Nobody chooses to believe anything


What are the delusions I have

LordReed:


So basically humans who the god deems worth will be giving undying spirits?

Ignore Kobojunkie... he's faarrr worse than MaxInDHouse.... he's heresies are on a faaaarrr higher level than the jw dude...

Rather than be honest like me and say they don't completely understand a subject matter when they infact do not, they just share their heretical viewpoints and mislead ignorant people...

They are blind leaders of the blind so pay no attention to them

LordReed:

A moniker you deleted, why is it far fetched that I forgot?

Don't worry jare LordReed it's like everyone else know that MaxInDHouse is the same as Maximus69 except you!

HellVictorinho:

Dying means ceasing to exist
If you don't cease to exist,then you don't die.
According to you, your consciousness is you.
Let's define ceasing to exist on Earth
If it means that you will vanish from the Earth without decomposing,then it means you will be able exist outside the Earth
But how can you remain after all your organs stop working?
Don't just say you will remain
State the form in which you will remain
What will you be doing after all your organs stop working?

All you have done here is state your personal ideas and attempted to question me on them. I don't exist in your mind to understand how you have chosen to process these things for yourself in order to properly answer you without failing your particular delusion.

And mind you, this topic is not about you but about the Christian belief... so?