AntiChristian:


Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. Mat 16:17

Antichristian replies " Cursed are you, Hendtime son of................(fill in the gap) for this was not revealed to you by the father in heaven but by the despicable devil.

Aren't you bewitched by the devil just like Muhammad the caravan robber?

Hendtime:


Aren't you bewitched by the devil just like Muhammad the caravan robber?

Acts 22:6
“About noon as I came near Damascus, suddenly a bright light from heaven flashed around me.

This was were Paul was bewitched! And He wrote about thirteen out of twenty-four Books of the New Testament. Even more than the other 11 disciples combined!

AntiChristian:
The comparison is clear. You can't hide it. Paul calls Christians light and unbelievers darkness. Stop trying to hide this simple English with words. Who is Belial? If Saudi is Belial why would a Christian go there?

It is either you don’t fully understand a simple English or lack comprehension skill. For the second time, Paul asked Christians not to be unequally yoked (in drinking, stealing, fornication, politics, marriage, etc) with unbelievers. He never asked Christians never to live in a non-Christian land but never to participate in their vices. Read the either surah.

AntiChristian:
The settings of the hadith you are quoting even overshadows your claims. The Hadith is about Muslims living in a non-Muslim country where they are persecuted and not allowed to freely worship. When the Prophet was being persecuted in Mecca, he did Hijrah and moved to Medina where he established Islam.

Muslims are not allowed to freely practice Islam in the US, Germany, Italy, Austria and Spain. As a matter of fact, these countries are technically hostile to Islam. Why are Muslims still killing themselves to migrate to these countries when Mohammed asked them not to? We have mosques in these country but the natives are inherently hostile to Islam because Islamic culture is against their lifestyle and their secular laws.

AntiChristian:
No they are all Muslims! Even if there is only one Christian there, why is s/he going to Saudi of all place and not afraid of lslamisation?

How did you vet them to confirm that we have Christians among them. Jesus never asked Christians never to live among unbelievers it was mohammed that said so.

AntiChristian:
The verse is talking about Christians and non-Christians. Which kind question be this? Did you see Islam in the verse?

The people of Corinth that Paul wrote to are not even Muslims. Though same can be applied to muslims of today. What Paul could be saying here is that Christians should not go to mosques or partake in any Islamic activity that are against Christian beliefs, that is, must not be unequally yoked with muslims.

RightChannel:
1. So why are Christian doctors applying for Saudi Jobs?

Even if Christians are applying for Saudi medical job it is a win-win scenario; the Christian doctors will provide a professional health services while the Saudi government pays them very well. After all the US military is providing security services to Saudi Arabia.

RightChannel:
2. Are they not afraid of Islamisation that you guys are promoting?

Saudi Arabia is already 100% Islamised when Mohammed purged mecca and medina of Jews and Christians though war. Christians in Saudi arabia are obliged to obey their sharia rules.

RightChannel:
3. Or is the love of money greater than the love of Jesus?

Jesus never asked Christian doctors never to treat Muslim patients for money. It is not the Saudi government that sent them to medical schools.

AntiChristian:


My bad!

Doctor in this context means a person who is qualified to treat people who are ill.

While Hematology is the branch of medicine concerned with the study of the cause, prognosis, treatment, and prevention of diseases related to blood.

Hope the difference is clear and need no Holy Spirit to explain to a low IQ bloke.

RightChannel is serving you better

"The recruitment is not only for doctors but also other medical branches like hematology and co."

A Hematologist is a specialist in hematology, the science or study of blood, blood-forming organs and blood diseases.

hematologist is a doctor who specializes in researching, diagnosing, treating, and preventing blood disorders and disorders of the lymphatic system (lymph nodes and vessels).

Behold another blunder:

Doctor in this context means a person who is qualified to treat people who are ill.

According to your blunders, hematologist is NOT a doctor who CAN'T TREAT people abi?

May God have mercy on you and save you from this ignorant you put yourself into. Had it been it is Arabic, I won't disturb myself on you but showcasing the level of your ignoramus here on hematologist is what I won't tolerate with you. Islam has caused you a great havoc and damage control

advocatejare:

ANTIISLAM,

This guy doesn’t know anything naw. It’s like saying that a Cardiologist is not a doctor

Kai Ahhh, Sir imagine AntiChristian is still arguing blindly

true2god:
It is either you don’t fully understand a simple English or lack comprehension skill. For the second time, Paul asked Christians not to be unequally yoked (in drinking, stealing, fornication, politics, marriage, etc) with unbelievers. He never asked Christians never to live in a non-Christian land but never to participate in their vices. Read the either surah.

Paul did not explain what unequally yoke means? This your explanation is not on point!

Do not be yoked together with those who do not believe. For what partnership is there between righteousness and lawlessness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness?

Muslims are not allowed to freely practice Islam in the US, Germany, Italy, Austria and Spain. As a matter of fact, these countries are technically hostile to Islam. Why are Muslims still killing themselves to migrate to these countries when Mohammed asked them not to? We have mosques in these country but the natives are inherently hostile to Islam because Islamic culture is against their lifestyle and their secular laws.

This is a big fat lie! Muslims are allowed to practice their religion freely! There are Mosques and people are allowed to pray and seek Islamic knowledge.

How did you vet them to confirm that we have Christians among them. Jesus never asked Christians never to live among unbelievers it was mohammed that said so.

Paul said so and He was the alleged author of about 13 Books out of 27 (that's 48% of the New Testament.)

Paul is Christianity Himself!

AntiChristian:


Acts 22:6
“About noon as I came near Damascus, suddenly a bright light from heaven flashed around me.

This was were Paul was bewitched! And He wrote about thirteen out of twenty-four Books of the New Testament. Even more than the other 11 disciples combined!

Your folly is on autopilot

true2god:
Even if Christians are applying for Saudi medical job it is a win-win scenario; the Christian doctors will provide a professional health services while the Saudi government pays them very well. After all the US military is providing security services to Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia is already 100% Islamised when Mohammed purged mecca and medina of Jews and Christians though war. Christians in Saudi arabia are obliged to obey their sharia rules.

Jesus never asked Christian doctors never to treat Muslim patients for money. It is not the Saudi government that sent them to medical schools.

I hope the guy AntiChristian learn from this

ANTIlSLAM:


RightChannel is serving you better

"The recruitment is not only for doctors but also other medical branches like hematology and co."

A Hematologist is a specialist in hematology, the science or study of blood, blood-forming organs and blood diseases.

hematologist is a doctor who specializes in researching, diagnosing, treating, and preventing blood disorders and disorders of the lymphatic system (lymph nodes and vessels).

Behold another blunder:

Doctor in this context means a person who is qualified to treat people who are ill.

According to your blunders, hematologist is NOT a doctor who CAN'T TREAT people abi?

May God have mercy on you and save you from this ignorant you put yourself into. Had it been it is Arabic, I won't disturb myself on you but showcasing the level of your ignoramus here on hematologist is what I won't tolerate with you. Islam has caused you a great havoc and damage control

Sure, I am doing that by serving him berra

Hendtime:


Don't mind the silly abdool

laugh

RightChannel:


I hope the guy AntiChristian learn from this

Yahweh didn't militarize Jesus like He did Moses and Joshua. Jesus ran away from politics.

The question is why will they leave a country where they can freely practice their Christianity according to law and go to a place that does not favour Christianity just for wealth!

The rich man asked Jesus about eternal life. Jesus told him to follow the commandments, sell all your properties, distribute them to the poor and follow him.

Use any Bible verse from Jesus to prove your point.
True2god

true2god:


Muslims are not allowed to freely practice Islam in the US, Germany, Italy, Austria and Spain. As a matter of fact, these countries are technically hostile to Islam. Why are Muslims still killing themselves to migrate to these countries when Mohammed asked them not to? We have mosques in these country but the natives are inherently hostile to Islam because Islamic culture is against their lifestyle and their secular laws.

Oga.
Check your facts again.
Does any of these countries have a state religion?
The mechinery to make a Muslim the POTUS in the nearest future has been set rolling.

mhmsadyq:


Oga.
Check your facts again.
Does any of these countries have a state religion?
The mechinery to make a Muslim the POTUS in the nearest future has been set rolling.

Only Saudi Arabia as a country has a state religion which ought not to be. The only Country in the world without a single church even if it is a two rooms Church building is Saudi Arabia

AgentNairaland:


Only Saudi Arabia as a country has a state religion which ought not to be. The only Country in the world without a single church even if it is a two rooms Church building is Saudi Arabia

There are no mosques in the Vatican, and they have the same government as Saudi Arabia albeit Christianity is the state religion. Stop lying Yoruba Christian

Demmzy15:
There are no mosques in the Vatican, and they have the same government as Saudi Arabia albeit Christianity is the state religion. Stop lying Yoruba Christian

Vatican city is NOT recognised as a country under UN, open the below link to learn more


https://www.nairaland.com/6016082/only-country-world-without-single

Demmzy15:
There are no mosques in the Vatican, and they have the same government as Saudi Arabia albeit Christianity is the state religion. Stop lying Yoruba Christian

Christians And Jews were there in Saudi Arabia prior Islam, and after Muhammad brought Islam, he forced himself as prophet in which Jewish and Christians living in Mecca kicked against. This prompted Muhammad to KILLED ALL JEWISH AND CHRISTIANS living in Saudi Arabia, also abolished building of Temple/Church/Synagogue till today in Saudi Arabia..

Vatican City on the other hand is NOT a member of UN, Vatican City is NOT recognised as a COUNTRY Under UNITED NATIONS, Vatican City is still part of Rome Italy, Vatican City was just given "Lateran Treaty" to become a State..

Another point is this, in Vatican City NO other Christian's CHURCHES or Christian denomination Like Methodist, Anglican, Apostolic, etc  Vatican City is purely CATHOLIC.. Churches there are all Roman CATHOLIC Church

Just go and read more on Lateran Treaty you'll understand this better.. I can send you the link if you wish

AgentNairaland:


Vatican city is NOT recognised as a country under UN, open the below link to learn more


https://www.nairaland.com/6016082/only-country-world-without-single

You're saying rubbish, countries are recognized by other countries and not the UN. The Vatican City didn't even apply for a UN membership but they're given "permanent observer state". They also have diplomatic relations with the vast majority of countries in the world except for few, something a country like Taiwan can't even do

Again, stop chastising Saudi Arabia when the Vatican is equally the same with Christianity on top

AgentNairaland:

Christians And Jews were there in Saudi Arabia prior Islam, and after Muhammad brought Islam, he forced himself as prophet in which Jewish and Christians living in Mecca kicked against. This prompted Muhammad to KILLED ALL JEWISH AND CHRISTIANS living in Saudi Arabia, also abolished building of Temple/Church/Synagogue till today in Saudi Arabia.

The way you guys lie ehn, the Jews were only around Medina or Yathrib and only those who fought against the Prophet Muhammad (salallaahu alaihi Wasallama) were dealt with. The Christians were based in Yemen and not Saudi Arabia.

Vatican City on the other hand is NOT a member of UN, Vatican City is NOT recognised as a COUNTRY Under UNITED NATIONS, Vatican City is still part of Rome Italy, Vatican City was just given "Lateran Treaty" to become a State.

They're not a member because they didn't apply for it, they have an official status with the UN. The UN doesn't recognize countries rather it is member countries that recognize you hence why majority of countries recognize the Vatican as an independent city state with its ruler as the Pope.

And as for your underlined, you proved my point. Despite being surrounded by Italy, they're independent as a result of the treaty

Another point is this, in Vatican City NO other Christian's CHURCHES or Christian denomination Like Methodist, Anglican, Apostolic, etc  Vatican City is purely CATHOLIC.. Churches there are all Roman CATHOLIC Church

How's this my business? The fact of the matter is, Christianity is the state religion.

Just go and read more on Lateran Treaty you'll understand this better.. I can send you the link if you wish

I don't need to read about it because I know about it, the treaty was what made Vatican city independent. It's a country within a country. They're independent of Italy, just accept you've failed Yoruba Christian

Demmzy15:


The way you guys lie ehn, the Jews were only around Medina or Yathrib and only those who fought against the Prophet Muhammad (salallaahu alaihi Wasallama) were dealt with. The Christians were based in Yemen and not Saudi Arabia.

Christians and Jews were in KSA doing their businesses, etc before Muhammad brought islam.. You need to ask your Imam who expelled Jews and Christians out of KSA and also ask him who abolished Building of Temple/Church/Synagogue in KSA.

Let's see who is lying

Some parts of modern Saudi Arabia (such as Najran) were predominantly Christian until the 7th to 10th century, when most Christians were expelled or converted to Islam or left the region via the Sea route to Asia, with which merchant trade already existed, others migrated north to Jordan and Syria and settled into ...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Saudi_Arabia



Narrated `Aisha:

When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) returned on the day (of the battle) of Al-Khandaq (i.e. Trench), he put down his arms and took a bath. Then Gabriel whose head was covered with dust, came to him saying, "You have put down your arms! By Allah, I have not put down my arms yet." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Where (to go now)?" Gabriel said, "This way," pointing towards the tribe of Bani Quraiza. So Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) went out towards them.

Sahih Bukhari Hadith 2813 In-book reference Book 56, Hadith 29 USC-MSA web (English) reference Volume 4, Book 52, Hadith 68


Ibn Ishaq describes the killing of the Banu Qurayza men as follows:

Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, "Will you never understand? Don't you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!" This went on until the apostle made an end of them. Huyayy was brought out wearing a flowered robe in which he had made holes about the size of the finger-tips in every part so that it should not be taken from him as spoil, with his hands bound to his neck by a rope. When he saw the apostle he said, "By God, I do not blame myself for opposing you, but he who forsakes God will be forsaken." Then he went to the men and said, "God's command is right. A book and a decree, and massacre have been written against the Sons of Israel." Then he sat down and his head was struck off.

Demmzy15:




They're not a member because they didn't apply for it, they have an official status with the UN. The UN doesn't recognize countries rather it is member countries that recognize you hence why majority of countries recognize the Vatican as an independent city state with its ruler as the Pope.

And as for your underlined, you proved my point. Despite being surrounded by Italy, they're independent as a result of the treaty

HELP YOURSELF AND STOP PUTTING SHAME ON YOURSELF AND ISLAM

Demmzy15:



How's this my business? The fact of the matter is, Christianity is the state religion.

This is the real meaning of Ignoramus

Demmzy15:


I don't need to read about it because I know about it, the treaty was what made Vatican city independent. It's a country within a country. They're independent of Italy, just accept you've failed Yoruba Christian.

VATICAN CITY IS STILL UNDER ROME, Vatican City recognized the state of Italy with Rome as its capital and mind you, THERE ARE MANY MOSQUES in Italy, Rome so what else again

Just help yourself, a click is enough Pls stop disgracing yourself

https://www.britannica.com/event/Lateran-Treaty

I will help you out.. We need to pity you guys and that is why you're in slavery bondage of Allah and Muhammad

AgentNairaland:


VATICAN CITY IS STILL UNDER ROME, Vatican City recognized the state of Italy with Rome as its capital and mind you, THERE ARE MANY MOSQUES in Italy, Rome so what else again

Just help yourself, a click is enough Pls stop disgracing yourself

https://www.britannica.com/event/Lateran-Treaty

I will help you out.. We need to pity you guys and that is why you're in slavery bondage of Allah and Muhammad

Why will anybody argue that Vatican is a country?

AgentNairaland:


Christians and Jews were in KSA doing their businesses, etc before Muhammad brought islam.. You need to ask your Imam who expelled Jews and Christians out of KSA and also ask him who abolished Building of Temple/Church/Synagogue in KSA.

There no established Christian communities in Saudi Arabia, most were outsiders or Arabs from other parts of Arabia. They were usually traders and merchants who came in and went out, the Jews were established in Medina due to them expecting a Messiah but they denied him when he came

Some parts of modern Saudi Arabia (such as Najran) were predominantly Christian until the 7th to 10th century, when most Christians were expelled or converted to Islam or left the region via the Sea route to Asia, with which merchant trade already existed, others migrated north to Jordan and Syria and settled into ...

This is literally what I've been saying, Najran was actually in Yemen. So you confirming what I'm saying!

Narrated `Aisha:

When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) returned on the day (of the battle) of Al-Khandaq (i.e. Trench), he put down his arms and took a bath. Then Gabriel whose head was covered with dust, came to him saying, "You have put down your arms! By Allah, I have not put down my arms yet." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Where (to go now)?" Gabriel said, "This way," pointing towards the tribe of Bani Quraiza. So Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) went out towards them.

Sahih Bukhari Hadith 2813 In-book reference Book 56, Hadith 29 USC-MSA web (English) reference Volume 4, Book 52, Hadith 68


Ibn Ishaq describes the killing of the Banu Qurayza men as follows:

Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, "Will you never understand? Don't you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!" This went on until the apostle made an end of them. Huyayy was brought out wearing a flowered robe in which he had made holes about the size of the finger-tips in every part so that it should not be taken from him as spoil, with his hands bound to his neck by a rope. When he saw the apostle he said, "By God, I do not blame myself for opposing you, but he who forsakes God will be forsaken." Then he went to the men and said, "God's command is right. A book and a decree, and massacre have been written against the Sons of Israel." Then he sat down and his head was struck off.

The Jews deserved what they got and they were judged according to the bible, the old testament. Don't come here with hypocrisy and emotions, I don't deal with that

HELP YOURSELF AND STOP PUTTING SHAME ON YOURSELF AND ISLAM

You're a new person here, this isn't the first time I'm seeing this bullsh'it, come up with something else

VATICAN CITY IS STILL UNDER ROME, Vatican City recognized the state of Italy with Rome as its capital and mind you, THERE ARE MANY MOSQUES in Italy, Rome so what else again

I'm not talking about Italy, I'm talking about the Vatican City State which is an independent country. The Vatican City is its capital not Rome, the screenshot below gives you a better understanding

Just help yourself, a click is enough Pls stop disgracing yourself

https://www.britannica.com/event/Lateran-Treaty

Christians like yourself think you are intelligent but you are actually very ignorant, the link you gave actually buttresses my point. Lemme show you:

"Upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty, the papacy recognized the state of Italy, with Rome as its capital. Italy in return recognized papal sovereignty over the Vatican City, a minute territory of 44 hectares (109 acres), and secured full independence for the pope."

Notice my emphasis, this is from the link you provided and it clearly states in 1929, the papacy recognized Italy and Rome as its capital (as well as it being a centre of Catholicism) and then in return, Italy recognized the Vatican City State as an independent sovereign territory for the Pope.

If you don't understand English, tell me and I'll recommend some classes for you!

I will help you out.. We need to pity you guys and that is why you're in slavery bondage of Allah and Muhammad

I'm not in bondage, you are. A woman like you shouldn't be talking to me because the bible commands you to keep shut.

Demmzy15:


There no established Christian communities in Saudi Arabia, most were outsiders or Arabs from other parts of Arabia. They were usually traders and merchants who came in and went out, the Jews were established in Medina due to them expecting a Messiah but they denied him when he came

If your Sheikh told you there is no Christian in Saudi Arabia must you believe this? We are here to teach you what you don't know about Islam still you won't wait patiently to gain and learn something


Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab:

That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "If I live - if Allah wills - I will expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula."

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1606

I am very sure you saw Arabian Peninsula which is Saudi Arabia as Muhammad never took his Jihad outside Saudi Arabia but should incase if I'm lying, tell me another country Muhammad visited while alive aside Saudi Arabia

Demmzy15:


This is literally what I've been saying, Najran was actually in Yemen. So you confirming what I'm saying!

STOP LYING, Najran is Not in Yemen

Najran (Arabic: نجران‎ Najrān), is a city in southwestern Saudi Arabia near the border with Yemen. It is the capital of Najran Province....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Demmzy15:


The Jews deserved what they got and they were judged according to the bible, the old testament. Don't come here with hypocrisy and emotions, I don't deal with that

You're a terrorist for supporting the massacre your bloody Muhammad took on Jewish people then

Demmzy15:


You're a new person here, this isn't the first time I'm seeing this bullsh'it, come up with something else

I am a new person again stop disgracing yourself

Demmzy15:


I'm not talking about Italy, I'm talking about the Vatican City State which is an independent country. The Vatican City is its capital not Rome, the screenshot below gives you a better understanding

You can't talk about Vatican City without not mentioning ROME. You will learn by force

"Upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty, the papacy recognized the state of Italy, with Rome as its capital. Italy in return recognized papal sovereignty over the Vatican City, a minute territory of 44 hectares (109 acres), and secured full independence for the pope."

Demmzy15:


Christians like yourself think you are intelligent but you are actually very ignorant, the link you gave actually buttresses my point. Lemme show you:

"Upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty, the papacy recognized the state of Italy, with Rome as its capital. Italy in return recognized papal sovereignty over the Vatican City, a minute territory of 44 hectares (109 acres), and secured full independence for the pope."

Notice my emphasis, this is from the link you provided and it clearly states in 1929, the papacy recognized Italy and Rome as its capital (as well as it being a centre of Catholicism) and then in return, Italy recognized the Vatican City State as an independent sovereign territory for the Pope.

If you don't understand English, tell me and I'll recommend some classes for you!

You know English is Haram in Islam because it is not the language allah and his messenger understood but I assure you to gain something after the whole discussions


The Capital of Vatican city is Rome, that is why they are not recognized as a Country in UN. Italy in return recognized papal sovereignty over the Vatican City, the reason is that Italy don't want to have a State religion which Catholicism are demanding for. That was why Only Italy recognized Vatican city as a Country for them to have their own State religion which is 100% CATHOLIC. I told you earlier you won't see any other Christian's denominational Church in Vatican city except catholic churches but you don't want to listen.. See, you will learn by force

Demmzy15:


I'm not in bondage, you are. A woman like you shouldn't be talking to me because the bible commands you to keep shut.

You are not in bondage but you are a slave right? Maybe you should check for the meaning of a slave.

Your people in KSA has wake up, they have kicked against what muhammad initiated. Women are now in Military, Saudi Arabia women are now appointed to the Consultative Assembly. EVEN MUSLIM WOMEN ARE NOW LEADING ASOLAT in many places of the world. If the government of KSA could go against Muhammad's layed down principles, who are you to say NO

AntiChristian:


Yahweh didn't militarize Jesus like He did Moses and Joshua. Jesus ran away from politics.

The question is why will they leave a country where they can freely practice their Christianity according to law and go to a place that does not favour Christianity just for wealth!

The rich man asked Jesus about eternal life. Jesus told him to follow the commandments, sell all your properties, distribute them to the poor and follow him.

Use any Bible verse from Jesus to prove your point.
True2god

You should ask your Muslim brothers and sisters the reason why they are running away from Afghanistan to be governed with Sharia Law, is Sharia Law not part of Islam?

AgentNairaland:


If your Sheikh told you there is no Christian in Saudi Arabia must you believe this? We are here to teach you what you don't know about Islam still you won't wait patiently to gain and learn something

When I say Saudi, I mean the environs of Makkah and Medinah were Prophet Muhammad grew up. Christians were in Najran which was in the south in modern areas of Southern Saudi Arabia and northern Yemen. Stop arguing!

Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab:

That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "If I live - if Allah wills - I will expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula."

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1606

The Arabian peninsula is for Islam, any problem with that? Why are you pained?

I am very sure you saw Arabian Peninsula which is Saudi Arabia as Muhammad never took his Jihad outside Saudi Arabia but should incase if I'm lying, tell me another country Muhammad visited while alive aside Saudi Arabia

Trust me when I tell you you know nothing about Islam, I've clarified my position above. Christians did not live with prophet Muhammad, only Jews did. The Christians were an entirely separate community down South and only visited scarcely for trade

STOP LYING, Najran is Not in Yemen

Najran was always in Yemen but Saudi took it over in the 20th century after the border war with Yemen

Najran (Arabic: نجران‎ Najrān), is a city in southwestern Saudi Arabia near the border with Yemen. It is the capital of Najran Province....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Even your Wikipedia link states Najran became part of Saudi Arabia in 1934, read your links before posting Yoruba Christian

You're a terrorist for supporting the massacre your bloody Muhammad took on Jewish people then

Call me whatever you wanna call me, the Jews betrayed the Muslims and allied with the pagans. They were defeated and judged according to the old testament Deuteronomy 20: 12. This was the judgement passed upon the Jews by the very ally they chose for themselves, his name was Sa'd. Prophet Muhammad didn't judge them rather it was Sa'd, so go look for somewhere else to cry. I don't deal with emotions!

You can't talk about Vatican City without not mentioning ROME. You will learn by force

Look at this idiot What concerns Rome with Vatican City? They're even miles apart and they've got different systems of government

"Upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty, the papacy recognized the state of Italy, with Rome as its capital. ITALY in RETURN RECOGNIZED PAPAL SOVEREIGNTY over the VATICAN CITY, a minute territory of 44 hectares (109 acres), and SECURED FULL INDEPENDENCE for the POPE."

I already explained this to you, they both recognized each other dumbo. Read that paragraph in full and you will see where Italy recognized the Vatican as well. Why are you ignoring that?

You know English is Haram in Islam because it is not the language allah and his messenger understood but I assure you to gain something after the whole discussions

Typical Christian boring rubbish, you're not funny. You've failed miserably, don't be jobless and acknowledge your failures. Trying to be funny

The Capital of Vatican city is Rome, that is why they are not recognized as a Country in UN.

Olodo, the country is called Vatican City State and its capital is Vatican City not Rome, stop exposing your ignorance. The capital of Italy is Rome, two countries can't have the same capital

Even the BBC agrees with me:
"The Vatican is the smallest independent state in the world and residence of the spiritual leadership of the Roman Catholic Church.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17994868

And they're recognized by many countries, if you claim they're not really recognized, do you consider Taiwan a country?

Italy in return recognized papal sovereignty over the Vatican City,

Hence making it an independent state, how's this hard for your dumb head to understand?

the reason is that Italy don't want to have a State religion which Catholicism are demanding for.

That's their own problem, my own is the Vatican City State is an independent country

That was why Only Italy recognized Vatican city as a Country for them to have their own State religion which is 100% CATHOLIC. I told you earlier you won't see any other Christian's denominational Church in Vatican city except catholic churches but you don't want to listen.. See, you will learn by force

Why are you praising yourself? you're literally proving my points for me. The Italians agreed to allow the Vatican to be independent with the Pope as the Ruler, the reason why they don't allow any other denomination is because it is an "unitary absolute Christian monarchy" which favors Catholicism and this system of government doesn't recognize any other religion. This same system if government is in Saudi Arabia which is also an "unitary absolute Islamic monarchy" and hence nothing except Islam is accepted by the country.

Perhaps, you confused because of the term "city-state", research the term and you'd find there are sovereign city states eg Monaco, the Vatican and Singapore and non-sovereign city states like Hong Kong, Macau. Stop embarrassing yourself

You are not in bondage but you are a slave right? Maybe you should check for the meaning of a slave.

You should shut up where men are, you don't get to talk

[s]Your people in KSA has wake up, they have kicked against what muhammad initiated. Women are now in Military, Saudi Arabia women are now appointed to the Consultative Assembly. EVEN MUSLIM WOMEN ARE NOW LEADING ASOLAT in many places of the world. If the government of KSA could go against Muhammad's layed down principles, who are you to say NO [/s]

It's not our fault women are treated like objects and baby making machines in Christianity, our women on the other hand are not and throughout history they've been known for greatness. Women have always been part and parcel of our society in the past and they'll continue to be, so your cry about consultative assembly should be on yourselves. You're told to keep quiet where men are, I shouldn't even be wasting time with you because you're worthless even in your religion

RightChannel:


You should ask your Muslim brothers and sisters the reason why they are running away from Afghanistan to be governed with Sharia Law, is Sharia Law not part of Islam?

Another dumb Christian, majority of those leaving Afghanistan are those who worked with the NATO forces. Christians think they can invade Muslim countries and destroy it without paying back, you lots must be very stupidd

RightChannel:


You should ask your Muslim brothers and sisters the reason why they are running away from Afghanistan to be governed with Sharia Law, is Sharia Law not part of Islam?

Shariah law is Islam.

1. Bring the evidence that Taliban is using "Shariah" in Afghanistan.

2. Bring the evidence that they are running from Shariah?

Demmzy15:


When I say Saudi, I mean the environs of Makkah and Medinah were Prophet Muhammad grew up. Christians were in Najran which was in the south in modern areas of Southern Saudi Arabia and northern Yemen. Stop arguing!

So you agreed with me that Muhammad never took his fight outside Saudi Arabia (Makkah and Medinna)

Muhammad forcefully took Najrān from Romans but as of today, Najran is in Saudi Arabia NOT in Yemen you claimed, I have exposed you

Demmzy15:



The Arabian peninsula is for Islam, any problem with that? Why are you pained?

Your warlord muhammad took it by force, Arab peninsula was NOT from the beginning for Islam, when Muhammad the founder of Islam wanted to force himself as prophet, he took Arabian peninsula with force and expelled all Jewish and Christians from it

Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab:

That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "If I live - if Allah wills - I will expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula."

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1606

Demmzy15:



Trust me when I tell you you know nothing about Islam, I've clarified my position above. Christians did not live with prophet Muhammad, only Jews did. The Christians were an entirely separate community down South and only visited scarcely for trade

So the Christians your warlord expelled from Arabian peninsula are Muslims right?

Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab:

That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "If I live - if Allah wills - I will expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula."

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1606

I will keep on exposing you

Demmzy15:


Najran was always in Yemen but Saudi took it over in the 20th century after the border war with Yemen

Saudi took it from Romans because your bloody Muhammad didn't wanted to hear or see anything that has to do with Christians and Jews

Demmzy15:


Even your Wikipedia link states Najran became part of Saudi Arabia in 1934, read your links before posting Yoruba Christian

Your sense is back after I exposed you, next time do more on research before posting nonsense here. You argued that Najran is NOT in Saudi Arabia but after I exposed your ignorant, your brain is reset

Demmzy15:


Call me whatever you wanna call me, the Jews betrayed the Muslims and allied with the pagans. They were defeated and judged according to the old testament Deuteronomy 20: 12. This was the judgement passed upon the Jews by the very ally they chose for themselves, his name was Sa'd. Prophet Muhammad didn't judge them rather it was Sa'd, so go look for somewhere else to cry. I don't deal with emotions!

Because they betrayed your bloddy Muhammad does that mean he should massacre them in one night? Your bloody Muhammad beheaded over 800 Jews in one night imagine

Demmzy15:


Look at this idiot What concerns Rome with Vatican City? They're even miles apart and they've got different systems of government

I WILL EXPOSE YOU AGAIN:

Rome is Capital of Vatican City, stop disgracing yourself please. ROME has a lot to do with Vatican City

Upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty, the papacy recognized the state of Italy, with Rome as its capital...

Demmzy15:


I already explained this to you, they both recognized each other dumbo. Read that paragraph in full and you will see where Italy recognized the Vatican as well. Why are you ignoring that?

Dundee, seems you don't understand what I'm saying. Only Italy recognized Vatican City as a Country because of Lateran treaty as Rome is the capital of Vatican City. Till tomorrow Catholicism shall keep on recognizing themselves as ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

You are a Muslim, just surrender yourself to learn what is happening in Christendom

Demmzy15:



Typical Christian boring rubbish, you're not funny. You've failed miserably, don't be jobless and acknowledge your failures. Trying to be funny

Because I am exposing you, that is my happiness and I assure you to learn and gain something at the end

English is Haram in Islam because it is not the language allah and his messenger understood

Demmzy15:



Olodo, the country is called Vatican City State and its capital is Vatican City stop exposing your ignorance. The capital of Italy is Rome, two countries can't have the same capital

Even the BBC agrees with me:
"The Vatican is the smallest independent state in the world and residence of the spiritual leadership of the Roman Catholic Church.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17994868

And they're recognized by many countries, if you claim they're not really recognized, do you consider Taiwan a country?

ANOTHER BLUNDER:

"the country is called Vatican City State and its capital is Vatican City

CORRECTION: The country is called Vatican City and its Capital is ROME and Not Vatican City. You will learn by force

Upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty, the papacy recognized the state of Italy, with Rome as its capital...

https://www.britannica.com/event/Lateran-Treaty

UN don't recognized them as a Country, you don't need to secure a Membership form before you can become a member of UN. I am correcting you on this regards the blunder you made earlier that V.C don't wish to apply to become a Member of UN

Demmzy15:



Hence making it an independent state, how's this hard for your dumb head to understand?

slowpoke, Independent State here means to have their own laws, state religion and the leader as Pope. Its Capital is Rome, you should ask why do they recognised Rome as their capital. Stop arguing blindly, surrender yourself to learn

Demmzy15:


That's their own problem, my own is the Vatican City State is an independent country

I've said it earlier and I will say it again

Independent State here means to have their own state laws, state religion and the leader as Pope. Its Capital is Rome, you should ask why do they recognised Rome as their capital. Stop arguing blindly, surrender yourself to learn something

Demmzy15:



Why are you praising yourself? you're literally proving my points for me. The Italians agreed to allow the Vatican to be independent with the Pope as the Ruler, the reason why they don't allow any other denomination is because it is an "unitary absolute Christian monarchy" which favors Catholicism and this system of government doesn't recognize any other religion. This same system if government is in Saudi Arabia which is also an "unitary absolute Islamic monarchy" and hence nothing except Islam is accepted by the country.

Perhaps, you confused because of the term "city-state", research the term and you'd find there are sovereign city states eg Monaco, the Vatican and Singapore and non-sovereign city states like Hong Kong, Macau. Stop embarrassing yourself

I will praise myself because I am exposing you, it is my joy you gain something at end of this discussion.

You will never see a MOSQUE in Vatican City and any other Christian's denominations. On the other hand, BEFORE MUHAMMAD BROUGHT ISLAM, THERE ARE TEMPLES/SYNAGOGUE/CHURCHES In Saudi Arabia. Muhammad abolished Building of Temples, Synagogue, etc in KSA because the Jewish and Christians don't recognized him as a GENUINE PROPHET and he was not anointed to be a prophet of true God. This prompted Muhammad to expelled all Jews and Christians from Arabian peninsula, that is why till tomorrow YOU WILL NEVER see A Church Building, Temple or Synagogue in KSA

Demmzy15:



You should shut up where men are, you don't get to talk

Smiles. Are you not on of those who beat his wives? I will show you how Allah underate your women in islam, Muhammad on his own called your wives as prisoners, animals, slaves, etc

Allah instructs husband to BEAT there wives

Quran 4:34

Men are the protectors of women because of the greater preference that God has given to some of them and because they financially support them. Among virtuous women are those who are steadfast in prayer and dependable in keeping the secrets that God has protected. Admonish women who disobey (God's laws), do not sleep with them and beat them. If they obey (the laws of God), do not try to find fault in them. God is High and Supreme.

Demmzy15:



It's not our fault women are treated like objects and baby making machines in Christianity, our women on the other hand are not and throughout history they've been known for greatness. Women have always been part and parcel of our society in the past and they'll continue to be, so your cry about consultative assembly should be on yourselves. You're told to keep quiet where men are, I shouldn't even be wasting time with you because you're worthless even in your religion .

DON'T LET ONE IMAM DECEIVED YOU PLEASE, YOUR WOMEN IN ISLAM ARE ANIMALS, PRISONERS, SLAVES, etc AS MUHAMMAD SAID


These are proofs from hadith:


Now then, O people, you have a right over your wives and they have a right over you. You have [the right] that they should not cause anyone of whom you dislike to tread on your beds; and that they should not commit any open indecency. If they do, then Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, If they abstain from [evil], they have the right to their food and clothing in accordance with the custom. For they are [like] domestic animals with you and do not possess anything for themselves. You have taken them only as a trust from Allah, and you have made the enjoyment of their persons lawful by the word of Allah, so understand and listen to my words, O people. I have conveyed the Message, and have left you with something which, if you hold fast to it, you will never go astray; that is, the Book of Allah and the sunnah of his Prophet. Listen to my words, O people, for I have conveyed the Message and understand [it]. Know for certain that every Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, and that all Muslims are brethren. It is not lawful for a person [to take] from his brother except that which he has given him willingly, so do not wrong yourselves. O Allah, have I not conveyed the message?


Template:The History of al-Tabari



SEE ANOTHER ONE:

You have rights over your wives and they have rights over you. You have the right that they should not defile your bed and that they should not behave with open unseemliness. If they do, God allows you to put them in separate rooms and beat them but not with severity. If they refrain from these things they have the right to their food and clothing with kindness. Lay injunctions on women kindly, for they are prisoners with you having no control of their persons. You have taken them only as a trust from God, and you have the enjoyment of their persons by the words of God, so understand…

Ibn Ishaq. Sirat Rasul Allah. 969. p. 651


CHECK THIS OUT TOO

It was narrated that: Sulaiman bin Amr bin Ahwas said: “My father told me that he was present on the Farewell pilgrimage with the Messenger of Allah. He praised and glorified Allah, and reminder and exhorted (the people). The he said: 'I enjoin good treatment of women, for they are prisoners with you, and you have no right to treat them otherwise, unless they commit clear indecency. If they do that, then forsake them in their beds and hit them, but without causing injury or leaving a mark if they obey you, then do not seek means of annoyance against them. You have rights over your women and you women have rights over you. Your rights over you women are that they are not to allow anyone whom you dislike on treat on your bedding (furniture), not allow anyone whom you dislike to enter your houses. And their right over you are that should treat them kindly with regard to their clothing and food.' ” (Sahih)

Sunan Ibn Majah 3:9:1851

AgentNairaland:


So you agreed with me that Muhammad never took his fight outside Saudi Arabia (Makkah and Medinna)

Muhammad forcefully took Najrān from Romans but as of today, Najran is in Saudi Arabia NOT in Yemen you claimed, I have exposed you




Your warlord muhammad took it by force, Arab peninsula was NOT from the beginning for Islam, when Muhammad the founder of Islam wanted to force himself as prophet, he took Arabian peninsula with force and expelled all Jewish and Christians from it

Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab:

That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "If I live - if Allah wills - I will expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula."

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1606




So the Christians your warlord expelled from Arabian peninsula are Muslims right?

Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab:

That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "If I live - if Allah wills - I will expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula."

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1606

I will keep on exposing you




Saudi took it from Romans because your bloody Muhammad didn't wanted to hear or see anything that has to do with Christians and Jews




Your sense is back after I exposed you, next time do more on research before posting nonsense here. You argued that Najran is NOT in Saudi Arabia but after I exposed your ignorant, your brain is reset





Because they betrayed your bloddy Muhammad does that mean he should massacre them in one night? Your bloody Muhammad beheaded over 800 Jews in one night imagine






I WILL EXPOSE YOU AGAIN:

Rome is Capital of Vatican City, stop disgracing yourself please. ROME has a lot to do with Vatican City

Upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty, the papacy recognized the state of Italy, with Rome as its capital...





Dundee, seems you don't understand what I'm saying. Only Italy recognized Vatican City as a Country because of Lateran treaty as Rome is the capital of Vatican City. Till tomorrow Catholicism shall keep on recognizing themselves as ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

You are a Muslim, just surrender yourself to learn what is happening in Christendom





Because I am exposing you, that is my happiness and I assure you to learn and gain something at the end

English is Haram in Islam because it is not the language allah and his messenger understood




ANOTHER BLUNDER:

"the country is called Vatican City State and its capital is Vatican City

CORRECTION: The country is called Vatican City and its Capital is ROME and Not Vatican City. You will learn by force

Upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty, the papacy recognized the state of Italy, with Rome as its capital...

https://www.britannica.com/event/Lateran-Treaty

UN don't recognized them as a Country, you don't need to secure a Membership form before you can become a member of UN. I am correcting you on this regards the blunder you made earlier that V.C don't wish to apply to become a Member of UN




slowpoke, Independent State here means to have their own laws, state religion and the leader as Pope. Its Capital is Rome, you should ask why do they recognised Rome as their capital. Stop arguing blindly, surrender yourself to learn




I've said it earlier and I will say it again

Independent State here means to have their own state laws, state religion and the leader as Pope. Its Capital is Rome, you should ask why do they recognised Rome as their capital. Stop arguing blindly, surrender yourself to learn something




I will praise myself because I am exposing you, it is my joy you gain something at end of this discussion.

You will never see a MOSQUE in Vatican City and any other Christian's denominations. On the other hand, BEFORE MUHAMMAD BROUGHT ISLAM, THERE ARE TEMPLES/SYNAGOGUE/CHURCHES In Saudi Arabia. Muhammad abolished Building of Temples, Synagogue, etc in KSA because the Jewish and Christians don't recognized him as a GENUINE PROPHET and he was not anointed to be a prophet of true God. This prompted Muhammad to expelled all Jews and Christians from Arabian peninsula, that is why till tomorrow YOU WILL NEVER see A Church Building, Temple or Synagogue in KSA





Smiles. Are you not on of those who beat his wives? I will show you how Allah underate your women in islam, Muhammad on his own called your wives as prisoners, animals, slaves, etc

Allah instructs husband to BEAT there wives

Quran 4:34

Men are the protectors of women because of the greater preference that God has given to some of them and because they financially support them. Among virtuous women are those who are steadfast in prayer and dependable in keeping the secrets that God has protected. Admonish women who disobey (God's laws), do not sleep with them and beat them. If they obey (the laws of God), do not try to find fault in them. God is High and Supreme.






DON'T LET ONE IMAM DECEIVED YOU PLEASE, YOUR WOMEN IN ISLAM ARE ANIMALS, PRISONERS, SLAVES, etc AS MUHAMMAD SAID


These are proofs from hadith:


Now then, O people, you have a right over your wives and they have a right over you. You have [the right] that they should not cause anyone of whom you dislike to tread on your beds; and that they should not commit any open indecency. If they do, then Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, If they abstain from [evil], they have the right to their food and clothing in accordance with the custom. For they are [like] domestic animals with you and do not possess anything for themselves. You have taken them only as a trust from Allah, and you have made the enjoyment of their persons lawful by the word of Allah, so understand and listen to my words, O people. I have conveyed the Message, and have left you with something which, if you hold fast to it, you will never go astray; that is, the Book of Allah and the sunnah of his Prophet. Listen to my words, O people, for I have conveyed the Message and understand [it]. Know for certain that every Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, and that all Muslims are brethren. It is not lawful for a person [to take] from his brother except that which he has given him willingly, so do not wrong yourselves. O Allah, have I not conveyed the message?


Template:The History of al-Tabari



SEE ANOTHER ONE:

You have rights over your wives and they have rights over you. You have the right that they should not defile your bed and that they should not behave with open unseemliness. If they do, God allows you to put them in separate rooms and beat them but not with severity. If they refrain from these things they have the right to their food and clothing with kindness. Lay injunctions on women kindly, for they are prisoners with you having no control of their persons. You have taken them only as a trust from God, and you have the enjoyment of their persons by the words of God, so understand…

Ibn Ishaq. Sirat Rasul Allah. 969. p. 651


CHECK THIS OUT TOO

It was narrated that: Sulaiman bin Amr bin Ahwas said: “My father told me that he was present on the Farewell pilgrimage with the Messenger of Allah. He praised and glorified Allah, and reminder and exhorted (the people). The he said: 'I enjoin good treatment of women, for they are prisoners with you, and you have no right to treat them otherwise, unless they commit clear indecency. If they do that, then forsake them in their beds and hit them, but without causing injury or leaving a mark if they obey you, then do not seek means of annoyance against them. You have rights over your women and you women have rights over you. Your rights over you women are that they are not to allow anyone whom you dislike on treat on your bedding (furniture), not allow anyone whom you dislike to enter your houses. And their right over you are that should treat them kindly with regard to their clothing and food.' ” (Sahih)

Sunan Ibn Majah 3:9:1851

Thank you so much