Ibkhaleel01:
[s]The bible even went further to disgrace itself by been erranous in geography...

Geographical Errors

Commenting in his (Harold Liedner) 1999 book The Fabrication of the Christ Myth on the well-known Gospel story of the Gadarene swine, which rushed down a steep cliff and were drowned in the Sea of Galilee, the Jewish scholar Joseph Leidner points out that because Gadera is actually several kilometers away from the sea, the whole incident is evidence of either ignorance or total lack of concern with veridical history. Citing other similar examples, he writes, “From the evidence…the blunt conclusion emerges that the Gospel writers did not know the geography and customs of the Holy Land, and did not know Judaism itself. They were working with source material having nothing to do with historical data of any kind. (ibid, p. 163)



Mark makes serious mistakes in his geographical references to Palestine. He knows the Galilean place names
and the general relative positions of the localities, but not specific details. Hence he "represents Jesus as travelling back
and forth in Galilee and adjacent territories in a puzzling fashion" (Kee, 117, pp 102 - 3). To go (as Jesus is said to in Mk. 7:31) from the territory of Tyre by way of Sidon to the Sea of Galilee "is like travelling from Cornwall to London via Manchester" (Anderson, 2, p 192). Again, Mark’s references to movements across the Sea of Galilee are impossible to trace sequentially. Mention of specific location near the sea are either unknown sites, such as Dalmanutha (8:10), or are patently inaccurate, as in the designation of the eastern shore of the lake as the country of the Gerasenes (5:1)" (Kee, loc cit). Gerasa is more than thirty miles southeast of the lake, too far away for the setting of the story which demands a city in its vicinity, with a precipitous slope down to the water. Probably all that concerned Mark, collecting and adapting pre-existing stories about Jesus, was that the lake and its surrounding territories, some Jewish and some mainly Gentile, was an ideal setting for journey's of Jesus and his disciples, showing how both Jews and Gentiles responded to him with faith. That place names in Mark caused perplexity among early readers is shown by the wide range of variants in the textual tradition where names occur in the gospel. Perplexity is also evidenced by Matthew, who changed Mark’s Gerasenes to Gadarenes (Mt. 8:28), Gadara being a well-known spa only eight miles from the lake.

(G. A. Wells, The Historical Evidence for Jesus (Prometheus Books, 1982), p. 230[/s]

All this yet your Muhammad went and plagiarized the Bible. Shame on you and your Muhammad

Agboriotejoye:


As long as you can't defend the plagiarism in the quran, then all this is trash only worth an Allahu Akboom

Lets analyze terorism and see which religion is really build on that


Clearly Islam the religion is not the cause of terrorism. Islam, as I said, is a religion of peace. However through the centuries, deviations from the true teachings of Islam take place. And so Muslims kill despite the injunction of their religion against killing especially of innocent people.

If you look at Christianity you must admit that being thrown to the lions by the Romans did not prevent Christians when they achieved power from being totally intolerant of those who did not accept Christianity During the Spanish Inquisition suspected apostates were burnt at the stake after mock trials. In fact many who are in America today are descended from Christians who had fled from terror perpetrated by other Christians. And the Jews in America are the descendants of the Jews who fled the regular pogroms in European countries, especially Russia, and of course the persecution by the Germans under Hitler.

Islam had in fact been more tolerant. The Jews chose to migrate to North Africa together with the defeated Muslims after Ferdinand and Isabella completed the reconquest of Spain. To stay back meant forced conversion to Christianity or pain of death. Even after conversion they remained suspects and were persecuted.

The Muslims were well disposed towards Christians in particular. When the early Muslims were persecuted by the heathen Arabs, they sought refuge in Abyssinia, a Christian country with a Christian king. They were well treated there because the Christians realised they worshipped the same God and recognised not only the prophets of the Christians but those of the Jews as well. The Muslims venerate Musa or Moses, and Isa or Jesus as their prophets along with Adam, Abraham, Jacob and others.

They differ from the Hebrews and the Christians because they believe that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, the Jews and the Christians had deviated from the true teachings. But then you must remember that Martin Luther and others too accused the Christians of their times of deviation from the true teachings and founded their own creed or sect in protest. So the Muslims' attitude towards Christianity is not much different from that of the various Protestant sects. In the past Catholics and Protestants were violently intolerant of each other.


Islam is capable of coexisting with Judaism and Christianity if they are not oppressed. Indeed Islam is capable of coexisting with other religions too, including with those without any religion.

Ibkhaleel01:
[s]shameless coward! Your days are numbered!

But before then...enjoy the disgrace so that you'll have enough reasons to rot in hellfire for refusing the truth....

Jesus was not the Son of God but the ‘Sun of God’. Amazing isn’t it? God would never defy His own creatures, even to the slightest extant. Hence, the titles of “Lamb of God” and “God the Son” are reversions to paganism. The “God the Son” implies the pagan trinity. The title “Lamb of God” is also not unique; it was applied to Krishna as well, the Hindu savior who lived hundreds of years before Christ was born.



These titles were probably derived from Augustine, who was the first to conjecture that Luke’s genealogy belonged to Mary.



Nevertheless, here are those historical errors. I hope you enjoy reading them as much as i enjoyed collecting them...



The challenge for the open debate is still on....
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It is you and your fellow suicide bombers whose days are numbered. You will rot in hell with your terrorist prophet. Pig

Ibkhaleel01:
[s]Matthew is the only Gospel in the New Testament that records “Herod’s slaughter of the innocents”. We have explicit quotations from scholars to substantiate that “Herod’s slaughter of the innocents” is just another recapture of pagan mythology. The sun-gods of ancient Greece, Rome, and Egypt were threatened at birth, and the order was made to kill all the “new-born infants”. The same episode was replayed in the life of Jesus, who is considered a ‘sun-god’ by modern Secular scholars[/s].

Is that why Muhammad went about plagiarizing the Bible?

[s][quote author=Agboriotejoye post=105922658]

It is you and your fellow suicide bombers whose days are numbered. You will rot in hell with your terrorist prophet. Pig[/quote[/s]] lets see the real terrost eith facts


examples from your own history:

1.     King Olaf slaughtered everyone who refused to embrace Christianity in Norway; he cut off their hands and feet, and banished and expelled them, until there was no other religion in the land except Christianity.

2.     In Montenegro in the Balkans, the Prince-Bishop Danilo Petrovic led a campaign of slaughter against non-Christians on Christmas Eve.

3.     In Ethiopia, the king Sayf Ar‘ad (1342-1370 CE) executed everyone who refused to become Christian, or he banished them from the land.

Ibkhaleel01:
[s] The Bible contains historical errors, which cannot be explained or answered but in the voice of mythology. The New Testament is filled with events that never actually happened, they are episodes of mythology that get played over and over in the lives of sun-gods like Mithras, Horus, and Bacchus, etc. The early Gnostic Christians regarded the Gospel story as purely symbolic; they rejected the Literalist movement of Christianity which prevailed over them, and corrupted the Gospel of Jesus. I suggest reading The Jesus Mysteries by Timothy Freke, Peter Gandy.



The darkness at the crucifixion, the rising saints of Matthew, the earthquake, resurrection, and the “crucifixion” itself are mythological events, they were NOT recorded by historians who lived during that period of time. Philo Judaes lived around 50 CE and never mentions the Gospel events; the Roman records of Pilate DO NOT mention Jesus. Thousands of criminals were crucified by the Romans, but no record exists of Jesus, simply because the Pilate did not crucify him. He was saved by God according to Psalms 20:6, Hebrews 5:7, and Al-Quran 4:157. Regarding the alleged “darkness and earthquake in Matthew”, there is not a shred of evidence to support the Gospel story[/s].

Is this why your fake gluttonous prophet who died of poison from a woman went and plagiarized the Bible?

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Agboriotejoye:


Is that why Muhammad went about plagiarizing the Bible?

[/s] We are dealing with Terrorism..dont dodge


... continuation

4.     Moreover we find that it was Christianity – and not Islam – that eradicated the Native people in America.

5.     We also find that it is Christianity that uprooted the Palestinian people from their land in order to hand it over to the enemies of both Christ and Muhammad (peace be upon them).

6.     Who is it that started the world wars? In the First World War, ten million people were killed, and in the Second World War, the death toll was seventy million!

7.     How many humans were killed by the atomic bombs that were dropped on the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima in Japan?

8.     During the Crusades, when the Christians besieged Jerusalem and the siege intensified, and its inhabitants realised that they were defeated, they asked the crusader leader Tancred for safe passage for themselves and their wealth, and he granted that to them on condition that they all seek refuge in al-Masjid al-Aqsa (the mosque), carrying safety banners. Al-Masjid al-Aqsa was filled with old men, children and women, and they were slaughtered like sheep; their blood flowed in the holy place until it came up to the knees of the horses, and the streets were filled with crushed skulls, severed arms and legs and mutilated bodies. The historians state that the number of those killed inside al-Masjid al-Aqsa  alone was seventy thousand, and no European historians deny these atrocities.

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Agboriotejoye:


Is this why your fake gluttonous prophet who died of poison from a woman went and plagiarized the Bible?

[/s] lying is a typical xtian habit!

Continue as i expose you even know!

I'll clear all the lies....

Lets talk terorism first!


     Our own times give the best testimony to that, for they bombarded Afghanistan, then they moved to Iraq and destroyed it, bombarding, killing and spreading mischief throughout the land. Their leader even said that God had commanded him to enter Iraq! Where are the teachings of Christ that they claim to follow and speak so much about?

Ibkhaleel01:
[s]Lets analyze terorism and see which religion is really build on that


Clearly Islam the religion is not the cause of terrorism. Islam, as I said, is a religion of peace. However through the centuries, deviations from the true teachings of Islam take place. And so Muslims kill despite the injunction of their religion against killing especially of innocent people.

If you look at Christianity you must admit that being thrown to the lions by the Romans did not prevent Christians when they achieved power from being totally intolerant of those who did not accept Christianity During the Spanish Inquisition suspected apostates were burnt at the stake after mock trials. In fact many who are in America today are descended from Christians who had fled from terror perpetrated by other Christians. And the Jews in America are the descendants of the Jews who fled the regular pogroms in European countries, especially Russia, and of course the persecution by the Germans under Hitler.

Islam had in fact been more tolerant. The Jews chose to migrate to North Africa together with the defeated Muslims after Ferdinand and Isabella completed the reconquest of Spain. To stay back meant forced conversion to Christianity or pain of death. Even after conversion they remained suspects and were persecuted.

The Muslims were well disposed towards Christians in particular. When the early Muslims were persecuted by the heathen Arabs, they sought refuge in Abyssinia, a Christian country with a Christian king. They were well treated there because the Christians realised they worshipped the same God and recognised not only the prophets of the Christians but those of the Jews as well. The Muslims venerate Musa or Moses, and Isa or Jesus as their prophets along with Adam, Abraham, Jacob and others.

They differ from the Hebrews and the Christians because they believe that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, the Jews and the Christians had deviated from the true teachings. But then you must remember that Martin Luther and others too accused the Christians of their times of deviation from the true teachings and founded their own creed or sect in protest. So the Muslims' attitude towards Christianity is not much different from that of the various Protestant sects. In the past Catholics and Protestants were violently intolerant of each other.


Islam is capable of coexisting with Judaism and Christianity if they are not oppressed. Indeed Islam is capable of coexisting with other religions too, including with those without any religion.

[/s]

Is this why after Muhammad plagiarized the Bible, he went and started murdering people, and later got poisoned by a woman? Shame!!

You claim Islam does not support terrorism yet ISWAP, ISIS and Boko haram are looking to impose islam on people through violence. Well played taqiyya

[s]

Agboriotejoye:


Is this why after Muhammad plagiarized the Bible, he went and started murdering people, and later got poisoned by a woman? Shame!!

[/s] you are ashame of Terrorism in Christianity

You want me to expose your lies of poisoning now? Or you stil want to run and bring another topic


Lets finish terorism you cant run....


When Lord Allenby, the representative of the Allies – England, France, Italy, Romania and America – captured Jerusalem in 1918 at the end of the First World War, did he not say: “Today the Crusades have ended”?

11.                        Did not the Frenchman Gouraud – who was also a representative of the Allies – stand in front of the tomb of the Muslim hero Salaah ad-Deen al-Ayyoobi (Saladin), when he entered Damascus, and say: “We have returned, O Saladin”?

Ibkhaleel01:
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Is that why Muhammad founded a religion of terrorism and himself was a gluttonous terrorist?

[s]

Agboriotejoye:


Is this why after Muhammad plagiarized the Bible, he went and started murdering people, and later got poisoned by a woman? Shame!!

You claim Islam does not support terrorism yet ISWAP, ISIS and Boko haram are looking to impose islam on people through violence. Well played taqiyya

[/s] I'll rather allow you to die a xtian and enter hellfire than preach Islam to you dirty swine...


Still on Terrorism


Such atrocities did not occur when the Muslims fought in jihad against their enemies. They did not kill women or children or ordinary people. It is worth noting the instructions that Abu Bakr as-Siddeeq gave to Usaamah ibn Zayd and his troops:

“Do not commit any act of treachery or betrayal. Do not steal from the war booty. Do not mutilate any dead body. Do not kill any child, old man or woman. Do not cut down any palm trees or burn them. Do not cut down any fruit-bearing tree. Do not slaughter any sheep, cow or camel, except for food. If you pass by people who have devoted themselves to worship in hermitages, then leave them to that to which they have devoted themselves.”

[s]

Agboriotejoye:


Is that why Muhammad founded a religion of terrorism and himself was a gluttonous terrorist?

[/s] historical we've proven the religion founded by Terrorism to be Christianity....you eanna argue?

Ibkhaleel01:
[s][/s] [s]We are dealing with Terrorism..dont dodge


... continuation

4.     Moreover we find that it was Christianity – and not Islam – that eradicated the Native people in America.

5.     We also find that it is Christianity that uprooted the Palestinian people from their land in order to hand it over to the enemies of both Christ and Muhammad (peace be upon them).

6.     Who is it that started the world wars? In the First World War, ten million people were killed, and in the Second World War, the death toll was seventy million!

7.     How many humans were killed by the atomic bombs that were dropped on the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima in Japan?

8.     During the Crusades, when the Christians besieged Jerusalem and the siege intensified, and its inhabitants realised that they were defeated, they asked the crusader leader Tancred for safe passage for themselves and their wealth, and he granted that to them on condition that they all seek refuge in al-Masjid al-Aqsa (the mosque), carrying safety banners. Al-Masjid al-Aqsa was filled with old men, children and women, and they were slaughtered like sheep; their blood flowed in the holy place until it came up to the knees of the horses, and the streets were filled with crushed skulls, severed arms and legs and mutilated bodies. The historians state that the number of those killed inside al-Masjid al-Aqsa  alone was seventy thousand, and no European historians deny these atrocities.[/s]

Is that why the terrorist manual was plagiarized from the Bible?

Osama bin Laden, Al Zawahiri, Mullah Omar, Al-Baghdadi, Yusuf, Shekau, ibkhaleel01 must all be Christians.

Ibkhaleel01:
[s][/s] historical we've proven the religion founded by Terrorism to be Christianity....you eanna argue?

 I would also, like to say that Hitler was a Christian and he killed the Jews and said that "God would be happy with that".

Ibkhaleel01:
[s][/s][s] lying is a typical xtian habit!

Continue as i expose you even know!

I'll clear all the lies....

Lets talk terorism first!


     Our own times give the best testimony to that, for they bombarded Afghanistan, then they moved to Iraq and destroyed it, bombarding, killing and spreading mischief throughout the land. Their leader even said that God had commanded him to enter Iraq! Where are the teachings of Christ that they claim to follow and speak so much about?[/s]

Is that why the Al-Qaide terrorists hijacked planes and bombed the World Trade Center? Typical of Islamic terrorists to start what they can't finish and then turn round to cast the victims as oppressors when those ones stand up to defend themselves.

[s]

Agboriotejoye:


Is that why the terrorist manual was plagiarized from the Bible?

Osama bin Laden, Al Zawahiri, Mullah Omar, Al-Baghdadi, Yusuf, Shekau, ibkhaleel01 must all be Christians.

[/s] Because the western owned media amplify things doesn't mean it is correct!

The total number of people that have died from their hands is nothing compared to the babaric act commited by crusaders, hitler and LRA in the name of christianity!

Agboriotejoye:


Is that why the Al-Qaide terrorists hijacked planes and bombed the World Trade Center? Typical of Islamic terrorists to start what they can't finish and then turn round to cast the victims as oppressors when those ones stand up to defend themselves.

Stales! Scientific studies have proven that no plane or Terrorist was responsible! It was an inside job meant for minds like you!

Ibkhaleel01:
[s][/s] [s]you are ashame of Terrorism in Christianity

You want me to expose your lies of poisoning now? Or you stil want to run and bring another topic


Lets finish terorism you cant run....


When Lord Allenby, the representative of the Allies – England, France, Italy, Romania and America – captured Jerusalem in 1918 at the end of the First World War, did he not say: “Today the Crusades have ended”?

11.                        Did not the Frenchman Gouraud – who was also a representative of the Allies – stand in front of the tomb of the Muslim hero Salaah ad-Deen al-Ayyoobi (Saladin), when he entered Damascus, and say: “We have returned, O Saladin[/s]”?

Terrorist!! The crusade is as a result of muslim invasion of Christian territories. Or didn't you see that in your research. After getting flogged by the crusaders, you turn round to blame them
Typical of terrorists. Taqiyya!!

Agboriotejoye:


Is that why the Al-Qaide terrorists hijacked planes and bombed the World Trade Center? Typical of Islamic terrorists to start what they can't finish and then turn round to cast the victims as oppressors when those ones stand up to defend themselves.

Is it really truly?

How can satan tempt your man god


Was Jesus tempted by the devil?



The retirement to the wilderness may well be an 'historical fact, but the story of the temptation is an obvious allegory to be understood in a spiritual sense, though the source of some of the details may be traced. The hoofed god Pan is the prototype of Satan, and there is a pagan legend which relates how the young Jupiter was led by Pan to the top of a mountain from which he could see the countries of the world. This mountain was called the 'Pillar of Heaven.’ which perhaps explains the introduction of the pinnacle of the temple into the story. Zoroaster, the founder of the Persian religion, went into the wilderness, and was tempted by the Devil; Buddha did likewise, and was tempted; Moses and Elijah had both dwelt in the wilderness, and the former fasted on Sinai forty days, while the latter fasted on Horeb forty days; Ezekiel had to bear the iniquity of the house of Tudah for forty days; the destruction of mankind in the Deluge lasted forty clays; there were forty nights of mourning in the mysteries of the pagan Proserpine; there were forty days of sacrifice in the old Persian 'Salutation of Mithra'; and so forth." (The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, p61)

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Agboriotejoye:

Terrorist!! The crusade is as a result of muslim invasion of Christian territories. Or didn't you see that in your research. After getting flogged by the crusaders, you turn round to blame them
Typical of terrorists. Taqiyya!!

[/s] Myopic brainwashed liar!

History is a testament there have never been Terrorism of such nature on earth!

Christianity is the bedrock of Killings in mass anywhere on Earth....


The list is endless

[quote author=Ibkhaleel01 post=105922749][s][/s] [s]I'll rather allow you to die a xtian and enter hellfire than preach Islam to you dirty swine...


Still on Terrorism


Such atrocities did not occur when the Muslims fought in jihad against their enemies. They did not kill women or children or ordinary people. It is worth noting the instructions that Abu Bakr as-Siddeeq gave to Usaamah ibn Zayd and his troops:

“Do not commit any act of treachery or betrayal. Do not steal from the war booty. Do not mutilate any dead body. Do not kill any child, old man or woman. Do not cut down any palm trees or burn them. Do not cut down any fruit-bearing tree. Do not slaughter any sheep, cow or camel, except for food. If you pass by people who have devoted themselves to worship in hermitages, then leave them to that to which they have devoted themselves.”[/[/s]quote]

Is that why Muhammad plagiarized the Bible?
They did not kill the women and children but they enslaved them not so? Later you will come and tell us that chief terrorist pig Muhammad ended slave by owning slaves. Taqiyya kill you tonight!! Religion of lies

Agboriotejoye:

Terrorist!! The crusade is as a result of muslim invasion of Christian territories. Or didn't you see that in your research. After getting flogged by the crusaders, you turn round to blame them
Typical of terrorists. Taqiyya!!

you can now chose which one to believe!

All are Christianity based terorism acts!


History proves that religions cannot be imposed by force, therefore Islam could not have spread by the sword. Rather it spread by means of the call alone, and by means of the call alone peoples who had shortly beforehand defeated the Arabs, such as the Turks and Mongols, embraced Islam. The Qur’an spread throughout India – although the Arabs had nothing to do with India except as passers-by – in such a way that the number of Muslims in that land increased to fifty million. The spread of Islam in China, of which the Arabs never conquered any part, was no less. You will see, in a later chapter, how fast Islam spread in that land, where the number of Muslims at present is more than twenty million.

Is it now clear to you how incorrect the accusations against Islam are, and the extent to which the Jewish and Christian scholars, and the media, have misled you?

It is as if you want to say that your religion was not spread by the sword. It is as if you want to convince people of the mercy and compassion of the followers of your religion. But none of that is true; here are some examples from your own history:

1.     King Olaf slaughtered everyone who refused to embrace Christianity in Norway; he cut off their hands and feet, and banished and expelled them, until there was no other religion in the land except Christianity.

2.     In Montenegro in the Balkans, the Prince-Bishop Danilo Petrovic led a campaign of slaughter against non-Christians on Christmas Eve.

3.     In Ethiopia, the king Sayf Ar‘ad (1342-1370 CE) executed everyone who refused to become Christian, or he banished them from the land.

4.     Moreover we find that it was Christianity – and not Islam – that eradicated the Native people in America.

5.     We also find that it is Christianity that uprooted the Palestinian people from their land in order to hand it over to the enemies of both Christ and Muhammad (peace be upon them).

6.     Who is it that started the world wars? In the First World War, ten million people were killed, and in the Second World War, the death toll was seventy million!

7.     How many humans were killed by the atomic bombs that were dropped on the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima in Japan?

8.     During the Crusades, when the Christians besieged Jerusalem and the siege intensified, and its inhabitants realised that they were defeated, they asked the crusader leader Tancred for safe passage for themselves and their wealth, and he granted that to them on condition that they all seek refuge in al-Masjid al-Aqsa (the mosque), carrying safety banners. Al-Masjid al-Aqsa was filled with old men, children and women, and they were slaughtered like sheep; their blood flowed in the holy place until it came up to the knees of the horses, and the streets were filled with crushed skulls, severed arms and legs and mutilated bodies. The historians state that the number of those killed inside al-Masjid al-Aqsa  alone was seventy thousand, and no European historians deny these atrocities.

9.     Our own times give the best testimony to that, for they bombarded Afghanistan, then they moved to Iraq and destroyed it, bombarding, killing and spreading mischief throughout the land. Their leader even said that God had commanded him to enter Iraq! Where are the teachings of Christ that they claim to follow and speak so much about?

10.                        When Lord Allenby, the representative of the Allies – England, France, Italy, Romania and America – captured Jerusalem in 1918 at the end of the First World War, did he not say: “Today the Crusades have ended”?

11.                        Did not the Frenchman Gouraud – who was also a representative of the Allies – stand in front of the tomb of the Muslim hero Salaah ad-Deen al-Ayyoobi (Saladin), when he entered Damascus, and say: “We have returned, O Saladin”?

12.                        Is it not so that the country was destroyed, blood was shed and women were raped in Bosnia and Herzegovina only in the name of the cross?

13.                        What do they have to say about what happened – and is still happening – in Chechnya? In Africa? Indonesia and elsewhere? Can they deny that what happened in Kosovo was a Crusade? Didn’t Bush say in his last war: “It will be a crusade”?

Such atrocities did not occur when the Muslims fought in jihad against their enemies. They did not kill women or children or ordinary people. It is worth noting the instructions that Abu Bakr as-Siddeeq gave to Usaamah ibn Zayd and his troops:

“Do not commit any act of treachery or betrayal. Do not steal from the war booty. Do not mutilate any dead body. Do not kill any child, old man or woman. Do not cut down any palm trees or burn them. Do not cut down any fruit-bearing tree. Do not slaughter any sheep, cow or camel, except for food. If you pass by people who have devoted themselves to worship in hermitages, then leave them to that to which they have devoted themselves.”

See: Mawsoo‘ah Shubuhaat an-Nasaara hawla al-Islam: as-Seerah an-Nabawiyyah by Shaykh Muhammad Abu Shahbah. 


 I would also, like to say that Hitler was a Christian and he killed the Jews and said that "God would be happy with that".

Ibkhaleel01:
[s][/s] historical we've proven the religion founded by Terrorism to be Christianity....you eanna argue?

How did Muhammad "convert" Mecca and Medina to Islam? Can you tell us let us see terrorism in full throttle. How did Egypt become a Muslim nation? Is it not terrorism? Your chief terrorist Muhammad who died of poisoning is rotting in hell presently. You will join him there soon via a suicide bomb.
Pity he deceived you that you will get 72 virgins for your efforts. But you must be really extraordinarily stupid to believe that.

[quote author=Agboriotejoye post=105922837][/quote]lemme cure tour obsession on taqiyya!

What is Taqiya, and why was it allowed?

What is Taqiya? Does Islam really permit lying? Or is this another lie from the anti-Islamics? Taqiya is a permission from Allah Almighty to the Believers, under special circumstances, to:

Not tell the Truth in its complete form. Tell it partially.

To hide the Truth.

To tell the Truth in a vague or fuzzy form.

To tell a lie, or to fabricate a story that is entirely not true.

So lying is without a doubt frowned upon and condemned in Islam. Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, further said that among the signs of the hypocrite is when he speaks, he lies.



The Justifications for Taqiya:

Taqiyya is derived from Taqi, which one of its meanings is "to guard yourself". For example:

You taqi yourself from the rain by covering yourself under your umbrella.

You taqi yourself from danger by not being careless.

You taqi yourself from tongue-slips by being more careful of the words that exit your mouth.

You taqi yourself from aggressors by taking self-defense classes.
Taqiyya was allowed for the Muslims to guard themselves from the harm and killings of the disbelievers. It's not a license to lie and be wicked and deceptive and evil as I thoroughly demonstrated throughout this entire article. Taqiya was given to the Muslims by Allah Almighty due to the overwhelming persecutions and slaughters that they went through. Bani Yasir (Tribe of Yasir) suffered the most, because they were the smallest and most vulnerable. Many of them were tortured to death because they refused to renounced Islam. Allah Almighty allowed for the Muslims to renounce Islam verbally if they were in such situation, because it is "what's in the heart that matters" (3:29):

Agboriotejoye:


How did Muhammad "convert" Mecca and Medina to Islam? Can you tell us let us see terrorism in full throttle. How did Egypt become a Muslim nation? Is it not terrorism? Your chief terrorist Muhammad who died of poisoning is rotting in hell presently. You will join him there soon via a suicide bomb.
Pity he deceived you that you will get 72 virgins for your efforts. But you must be really extraordinarily stupid to believe that.

Jesus is the master of taqiyya!

Jesus here practice Taqiya?

John 7:1-13
Jesus Goes to the Festival of Tabernacles
1 After this, Jesus went around in Galilee. He did not want [a] to go about in Judea because the Jewish leaders there were looking for a way to kill him.
2 But when the Jewish Festival of Tabernacles was near,
3 Jesus’ brothers said to him, “Leave Galilee and go to Judea, so that your disciples there may see the works you do.
4 No one who wants to become a public figure acts in secret. Since you are doing these things, show yourself to the world.”
5 For even his own brothers did not believe in him.
6 Therefore Jesus told them, “My time is not yet here; for you any time will do.
7 The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify that its works are evil.
8 You go to the festival. I am not [b] going up to this festival, because my time has not yet fully come.”
9 After he had said this, he stayed in Galilee.
10 However, after his brothers had left for the festival, he went also, not publicly, but in secret.
11 Now at the festival the Jewish leaders were watching for Jesus and asking, “Where is he?”
12 Among the crowds there was widespread whispering about him. Some said, “He is a good man.” Others replied, “No, he deceives the people.”
13 But no one would say anything publicly about him for fear of the leaders.

Footnotes:

a. John 7:1 Some manuscripts not have authority
b. John 7:8 Some manuscripts not yet

There are few points to notice here:

1- Here we see Jesus said that he wasn't going to the festival, but then went after his brothers went.

2- Did Jesus practice a form of Taqiya when he told his brothers that he wasn't going to the festival but his intention was to go?

3- Jesus didn't want to go to the festival publically. So he told his brothers in John 7:8 "I am not going up to this festival".

4- But Jesus did go to the festival in secret (John 7:10); not in public.

5- So the bottom line here is this: Jesus Christ did say that he wasn't going to the festival, but he then shortly after went up there anyway.

Ibkhaleel01:
[s][/s] [s]Because the western owned media amplify things doesn't mean it is correct!

The total number of people that have died from their hands is nothing compared to the babaric act commited by crusaders, hitler and LRA in the name of christianity[/s]!

Yeah. Typical of terrorist to count headscores. Foolish boy. Killing 3000 innocent souls in a day is nothing abi

You terrorists ain't getting no virgin. Know this, know peace

Agboriotejoye:


Yeah. Typical of terrorist to count headscores. Foolish boy. Killing 3000 innocent souls in a day is nothing abi

You terrorists ain't getting no virgin. Know this, know peace

Isaiah 53 and other verses confirm that Jesus never died on the cross. Jesus Christ never died on the cross according to Islam, and the Bible thoroughly confirms it.

Question: Did Prophet Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, practice Taqiya so that the Jews who wanted to kill him wouldn't see him? Otherwise, why would he then be concerned about showing up in public?


I need an answer!!!!

Ibkhaleel01:

Stales! Scientific studies have proven that no plane or Terrorist was responsible! It was an inside job meant for minds like you!

Scientific taqiyya you mean? Let Osama show you the proof in the bottom of the ocean were he was thrown like fish food.

Inside job? I guess the UN headquarters bombing in Abuja was also an inside job. Lying terrorist

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Agboriotejoye:


Scientific taqiyya you mean? Let Osama show you the proof in the bottom of the ocean were he was thrown like fish food.

Inside job? I guess the UN headquarters bombing in Abuja was also an inside job. Lying terrorist

[/s] The Bible allowed lying for spreading the faith. Also in the Bible, GOD Almighty makes the person lie, beyond his/her will, if GOD Almighty Sends the Lying and Deceiving Spirits upon him/her. That person is made to lie and is made to speak lies, and become a liar. Even if they were already liars before the Spirits came upon them, but the certain lies that the Spirits cause them to utter are 100% by the Command and Will of GOD Almighty. Also, Jesus Christ in John 7:1-13 clearly and indisputably practiced Taqiya.

Ibkhaleel01:


[s]Is it really truly?

How can satan tempt your man god


Was Jesus tempted by the devil?



The retirement to the wilderness may well be an 'historical fact, but the story of the temptation is an obvious allegory to be understood in a spiritual sense, though the source of some of the details may be traced. The hoofed god Pan is the prototype of Satan, and there is a pagan legend which relates how the young Jupiter was led by Pan to the top of a mountain from which he could see the countries of the world. This mountain was called the 'Pillar of Heaven.’ which perhaps explains the introduction of the pinnacle of the temple into the story. Zoroaster, the founder of the Persian religion, went into the wilderness, and was tempted by the Devil; Buddha did likewise, and was tempted; Moses and Elijah had both dwelt in the wilderness, and the former fasted on Sinai forty days, while the latter fasted on Horeb forty days; Ezekiel had to bear the iniquity of the house of Tudah for forty days; the destruction of mankind in the Deluge lasted forty clays; there were forty nights of mourning in the mysteries of the pagan Proserpine; there were forty days of sacrifice in the old Persian 'Salutation of Mithra'; and so forth." (The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, p61)

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Is that why mumuhamad stole Jesus Christ from the Bible and added to his lies filled Quran?

Ibkhaleel01:
[s][/s] [s]Myopic brainwashed liar!

History is a testament there have never been Terrorism of such nature on earth!

Christianity is the bedrock of Killings in mass anywhere on Earth....


The list is endless[/s]

Yes na!! Christianity killed the inhabitants of Mecca and Medina not the terrorist prophet who got poisoned for his terrorist activities