Dtruthspeaker:


Reversing the burden of Proof will not work.

You were asserting evolution, you therefore have the duty of Proving it if you reasonably can.

And asking me to prove it for you, is not you proving your case.

So you prove it yourself or...

I don’t know, did your god create Coronavirus?

Workch:
Your god created covid19 he even stated in the Bible that he was going to do it. I think that’s your pint right?

Change of Post Son!

Or have you abandoned and Forfeited your Proof of your assertion of evolution?

It is only when you have forfeited, then I can validly enter the examination box.

That's how it is validly done.

Dtruthspeaker:


Change of Post Son!

Or have you abandoned and Forfeited your Proof of your assertion of evolution?

It is only when you have forfeited, then I can validly enter the examination box.

That's how it is validly done.

I am ignorant of how coronavirus came to be, that’s why I asked that question.

I want to know if your god created it. Please educate me

Dtruthspeaker, I really need some education on if HIV and coronavirus were created by your god. I’m deeply ignorant about this topic. Please help me

I am Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, would you like me to help you with the underlined?

Workch:

Dtruthspeaker, I really need some education on if HIV and coronavirus were created by your god. I’m deeply ignorant about this topic. Please help me

chatinent:


By seeing creation.
.

Your argument is circular.

You are saying a god exists because we can see what the god (whom you are still trying to prove exists) created.

You have concluded that a god exists and you're then using what the god created as evidence for that god existing in the first place.

That is a flawed circular form of reasoning and is not how you would go about proving anything.

You have only restated what you believe, and not what would count as evidence.

MaxInDHouse:
I am Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, would you like me to help you with the underlined?

Nope I want Dtruthspeaker to explain it. He seem very knowledgeable and versatile.

Workch:
Nope I want Dtruthspeaker to explain it. He seem very knowledgeable and versatile.

OK!

Workch:
I am ignorant of how coronavirus came to be, that’s why I asked that question.

I want to know if your god created it. Please educate me

You Forfeit and therefore Lost! (As you already know and once confessed before that evolution was a Lie in one of your threads, so no problems here.

But I wondered why you brought it up!.)

So to your question "how coronavirus came to be, that’s why I asked that question."

My Answer, the same way and place all other diseases cancer, leukaemia, typhoid fever, rickets, beri-beri, Aids came.

But Like Mr. Toyoda, it does not matter what makes the LandCruiser, sick, whether tierods, check engine or transmission, it can always be fixed.

Bacteriologist:


Your argument is circular.

You are saying a god exists because we can see what the god (whom you are still trying to prove exists) created.

You have concluded that a god exists and you're then using what the god created as evidence for that god existing in the first place.

That is a flawed circular form of reasoning and is not how you would go about proving anything.

You have only restated what you believe, and not what would count as evidence.

You think these people understand anything About logic and reasoning?
Anybody who accept the concept of a god does it by faith and not by reason. Such person will have poor critical thinking capability and will commit fallacies at will when confronted with sound reasoning.

Workch:
Yes, because it’s a cancer that needs to be cured.

Okay o, Doctor Workch,

Ekúu trouble. Am not surprise, everyone seems to have a cure to something these days and internet is their theatre and laboratory.

Weldone, Epèlé Sir.

Dtruthspeaker:


You Forfeit and therefore Lost! (As you already know and once confessed before that evolution was a Lie in one of your threads, so no problems here.

But I wondered why you brought it up!.)

So to your question "how coronavirus came to be, that’s why I asked that question."

My Answer, the same way and place all other diseases cancer, leukaemia, typhoid fever, rickets, beri-beri, Aids came.

But Like Mr. Toyoda, it does not matter what makes the LandCruiser, sick, whether tierods, check engine or transmission, it can always be fixed.

So god created coronavirus, I don’t understand.
Did your god create coronavirus and HIV?

hupernikao:


Okay o, Doctor Workch,

Ekúu trouble. Am not surprise, everyone seems to have a cure to something these days and internet is their theatre and laboratory.

Weldone, Epèlé Sir.

E Seun sir, Eku ife wa.

Dtruthspeaker speaker please help me understand this, teach me the scriptures about it. Did your god create coronavirus?

Workch:
Dtruthspeaker speaker please help me understand this, teach me the scriptures about it. Did your god create coronavirus?

Well, the coronavirus wasn't mentioned in the Bible




But I need you to help me with 600naira


Please,can you do that?

Workch:
So god created coronavirus, I don’t understand.
Did your god create coronavirus and HIV?

It's as simple as this. Mr. Toyota created the Camry but when the Camry is put in Lagos Floods by the driver of it and it becomes damaged can it be reasonably said that Mr. Toyoda created the damage?

No!

But can Mr. Toyoda fix it?

Yes, He Can!

It's as simple as that.

Dtruthspeaker:


It's as simple as this. Mr. Toyota created the Camry but when the Camry is put in Lagos Floods by the driver of it and it becomes damaged can it be reasonably said that Mr. Toyoda created the damage?

No!

But can Mr. Toyoda fix it?

Yes, He Can!

It's as simple as that.

my IQ is low, so I don’t understand your complex logic.

Are you saying that god didn’t create viruses?

HellVictorinho:



Well, the coronavirus wasn't mentioned in the Bible




But I need you to help me with 600naira


Please,can you do that?

no sir I can’t

JujuSugar:

If what you said above is true, then how did you come to know about his existence?

It is everywhere...all around us. We are in God, God I in us...it is the energy within us...the universe is the manifestation...

God is consciousness...personified.

sonmvayina:


It is everywhere...all around us. We are in God, God I in us...it is the energy within us...the universe is the manifestation...

God is consciousness...personified.

Which of the Gods are you talking about?
We have a lot of them

Workch:
You think these people understand anything About logic and reasoning?
Anybody who accept the concept of a god does it by faith and not by reason. Such person will have poor critical thinking capability and will commit fallacies at will when confronted with sound reasoning.

I mostly agree with that however, the thing is, many theists are confident that they accept the god claim based purely on evidence or reason. I mean, I once did think it was reasonable to believe in the Christian god a few years ago too.

Conversations like these helped me see what I was missing, so it doesn't hurt to try and engage others in such conversations as well.

So.... when I post comments like those I try to engage them to try and see if I could expose some of the gaps.

Bacteriologist:


I mostly agree with that however, the thing is, many theists are confident that they accept the god claim based purely on evidence or reason. I mean, I once did think it was reasonable to believe in the Christian god a few years ago too.

Conversations like these helped me see what I was missing, so it doesn't hurt to try and engage others in such conversations as well.

So.... when I post comments like those I try to engage them to try and see if I could expose some of the gaps.

He doesn’t seem to identify that as a gap because he’s mentally incapable of comprehending sound logic.

Whatever he sees, he ascribes it to his god. It took the curiosity in you to be able to emancipate yourself from the mental slavery. Someone with cognitive dissonance will never be emancipated, so it’s ok to just let the person know he’s stupid.

Workch:
You think these people understand anything About logic and reasoning?
Anybody who accept the concept of a god does it by faith and not by reason. Such person will have poor critical thinking capability and will commit fallacies at will when confronted with sound reasoning.

Bro, this is one of the lies you have made yourself to believe. It's like trying to rub your personal ego.

All you put up there, when subject to proper reasoning you will be the one to display no soundness at the end.

Don't just argue for argument sake. Your OP has nothing but just lazy gist that comes from too much of drinking. When I see sound argument, I know well.

You haven't presented one.

Workch:
Which of the Gods are you talking about?
We have a lot of them

No...there is just 1. It's just the name that is different.
The igbos call it chukwu and the yorubas calls it Eledumare...same God, different nomenclature..

sonmvayina:


No...there is just 1. It's just the name that is different.
The igbos call it chukwu and the yorubas calls it Eledumare...same God, different nomenclature..

Is he also the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

hupernikao:


Bro, this is one of the lies you have made yourself to believe. It's like trying to rub your personal ego.

All you put up there, when subject to proper reasoning you will be the one to display no soundness at the end.

Don't just argue for argument sake. Your OP has nothing but just lazy gist that comes from too much of drinking. When I see sound argument, I know well.

You haven't presented one.

I won’t be arguing if there’s actually any evidence for god.

You should just provide one instead of prolonging the argument

DREAMS ARE EVIDENCES THAT THERE IS GOD.

Critical thinking ability is not all about arguing to make others feel lesser because you will never gain anything worthwhile, rather REAL critical thinking skills should help you to build a strong and lasting friendship with all your neighbours afterwards. Mark 12:30-31

For instance the atheist feel he's got the IQ by discouraging his neighbour from believing in the existence of a supreme being (God) then the atheist feel so proud of his thinking skills afterwards, that's all. The only benefits you can derive from such achievement is how to work together with your newly converted atheist brother in convincing other theists not to continue puting faith in God!

But what is the benefit of REAL FAITH?

According to the book (Bible) real FAITH will help people throughout the earth to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} so they will use the same CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS supported by divine wisdom to settle all their differences amicably without raising weapons against one another, they will divert all their resources to the production of food and other necessities of life.


So let's weigh both on the same scale!

ATHEISM will only help humans to give praise to egotism and pride since each atheist trust in his own thinking skills there will always be competition which will eventually lead to strife.
Each will now depend on science using his so called thinking skills to invent devices to silence his competitor(s), the end result will be the survival of the fittest! Revelations 6:3-4
Back to square one!

REAL FAITH on the other hand will make every participant see himself as lesser to his brother {Philippians 2:3 compare to Matthew 23:11} because they don't give themselves the credits as in their critical thinking skills {1Corinthians 4:6-7} but to the Supreme Being (God) who dispenses to each person according to their capacity! 1Corinthians 3:5-9
So if the concept of God (Supreme Being) is put to good use there will always be LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS, and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} on this planet. But Satan has blinded the eyes of billions so that even when they are faithless they still imagine that they have faith in the Supreme Being! 2Corinthians 4:4

The truth is ATHEISM truly sound logical from the perspective of a freethinker (layman) but divine wisdom shows that the future of ATHEISM means self extermination. Man will certainly develop devices to silence one another due to competitive spirit which is evident in atheism! Proverbs 16:25

May you have PEACE!

Workch:

You think these people understand anything About logic and reasoning?
Anybody who accept the concept of a god does it by faith and not by reason. Such person will have poor critical thinking capability and will commit fallacies at will when confronted with sound reasoning.

orunto27:
DREAMS ARE EVIDENCES THAT THERE IS GOD.

maxindhouse, you see why I think a religious person is incapable of critical reasoning!

You see the unreasonable reply? No sound mind will link dreams to a god

Workch:

maxindhouse, you see why I think a religious person is incapable of critical reasoning!
You see the unreasonable reply? No sound mind will link dreams with a god

MaxInDHouse:

Satan has blinded the eyes of billions so that even when they are faithless they still imagine that they have faith in the Supreme Being! 2Corinthians 4:4

Billions like him are FAITHLESS but presumptuous thinking they belong to the house of FAITH, real FAITH is not that cheap! 2Thessalonians 3:2

This is the definition of FAITH:

Assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident DEMONSTRATION of REALITIES that are not seen! Hebrews 11:1

Ask him to explain how his FAITH has been put to DEMONSTRATION after all nobody can see his God! (FAITH) James 2:18-26

Workch:
The Bible is not evidence, it’s a claim.

Miracles are not evidence, they are claims or products of ignorance.

Creatures are not evidence, we know how a lot of them got here.

Bible and Quran passages are full of lies and unsubstantiated claims. Their stories directly oppose reality and sometimes very laughable and can never be proven to be true, all lies and no single evidence.

There are no gods. All gods are fantasy creatures invented by humans. Gods can’t be detected with our human senses because gods don’t exist.

“Perceived mind telepathy”? Well, right, there’s no such thing as telepathy but sometimes people think they are receiving messages from some outside source. They are actually getting some sort of feedback from their own subconscious mind.

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Well, you appear to have convinced yourself that you have it all figured out...

"while it is said: “Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.” - Hebrews 3:15

God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness
"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools,..." - Romans 1:18-22

"And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”
Then some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these words, and said to Him, “Are we blind also?” Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, ‘We see.’ Therefore your sin remains." - John 9:39-41

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Well, you appear to have convinced yourself that you have it all figured out...

"while it is said: “Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.” - Hebrews 3:15

God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness
"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools,..." - Romans 1:18-22

"And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”
Then some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these words, and said to Him, “Are we blind also?” Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, ‘We see.’ Therefore your sin remains." - John 9:39-41

Its laughable to think that you can convince an atheist with a Bible passage.

Dude, we read the Bible more than Christians and that’s why we are atheists. Most Christians don’t read the Bible, they get interpretations from their con monsters.