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If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum: 1:52pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
Here is the POWER OF COINCIDENCE at play in football. If something like this happen in religion for just two consecutive times, they will establish it as the miracle, signs and wonders of their god. Same scoreline in five consecutive games. Game week 1 Chelsea 3-0 Palace Liverpool 3-0 Norwich Game week 2 Liverpool 2-0 Burnley Chelsea 2-0 Arsenal Game week 3 Liverpool 1-1 Chelsea Game week 4 Chelsea 3-0 A.villa Liverpool 3-0 Leeds Game week 5 Liverpool 3-0 Palace Chelsea 3-0 Tottenham Take for example, rain was about to fall yesterday, a pastor or babalawo says, "this rain will not fall." Next day he said same and it happened so. Some gullible people will worship that pastor or babalawo forever, not remembering that same man later or earlier predicted 20 more and failed woefully. T.B Joshua rode on the luck of COINCIDENCE in his days. Coincidences are natural, but the religionists will submit themselves to the agents involved forever. 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by hupernikao: 2:05pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
OtemAtum: When all the knowledge of religion you have had are around jazz and seeking for miracles than knowing God, this is what your heart will ever know. To speak like this showed your background and exposure to the religion you try to criticize. No wonder you got tired of being scammed and assume position of knowing all religion. Like I have told many in your clothing, learn wide, try understands things well, also don't generalize things, speak only on what you know than using a general umbrella. In this you expose yourself to have wondered around Miracle seeking, jazz dependable gathering in the name of religion. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum: 2:11pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
hupernikao: This is Otem, a god of knowledge. This write-up is to enlighten your likes. Check out more knowledge from the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY which I am opportune to compile. The book speaks for itself. 6 Likes |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by hupernikao: 12:33am On Sep 21, 2021 |
OtemAtum: Weldone Sir. Is it the same book that helped you to be making assumptions and generalization beyond what your experience knew? Your OP is obviously from your functional experiences and it's flawed as your thoughts about religion is inaccurate. Take that to the learning table again. |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by A001: 5:09am On Sep 21, 2021 |
hupernikao:A wise person will try to get the book he mentioned above and read it. I see you don't know much about Otem. (I only know little about him as well, but I have seen enough to rate his book very highly.) His source for writing the book is Atum, the ancestor of ancient Egyptians that created ancient Egypt, taught them how to build the pyramids and other technologies. If you consider the facts that ancient Egypt, a cradle of civilization, used to be a superpower in the olden days just like the US is today and that many Greek philosophers, who played key roles in laying the foundations of science and technology, traveled to Egypt for education purpose, then you'll realize Otem or his claims aren't to be taken lightly. Ancient Egyptians were black people and Africans that called their country Kemet, not Arabs currently occupying it now. 3 Likes |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by Amatarasha(f): 10:35am On Sep 21, 2021 |
hupernikao:shut up your mouth , he stated the fact for u selfish homosapiens to see , Take this to ur learning table " no honest person can ever be a pastor " Using the power of coincidence that comes my way every 6hrs to deceive foolish masses' u No wHat Curse be on your Punic god !!! Lastly , It can only take some moments b4 a honest person drops ur ragtag religion " shame on all of u , many eyes are opening Budaatum the confused soul what have u to say , Hellvictorinho still searching for limitations with an empty stomach? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by budaatum: 11:08am On Sep 21, 2021 |
Amatarasha: You've seen the soul of buda? How confused was it? Tell me please because I've never seen the soul of buda. Oh, and religious people who reason as Otem describes are lucky people I guess, because I don't think any God apart from the football god would care what the scores of football matches are. I've added the image in case you need to bow down and worship.
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Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by hupernikao: 11:29am On Sep 21, 2021 |
Amatarasha: Pèlé, is like you have been struggling and troubled with things of late. It's obvious in your utterance. Your case here isn't even what is being discuss but how to discuss among normal people. That is what you need to focus on now or get help. |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by hupernikao: 11:40am On Sep 21, 2021 |
A001: How does this applies to the current discuss? Are we discussing Otem or Atum here? Is this how you have been learning? To go and be searching for books because someone boasted about it? Bro? Please try read the OP again and stay on the point, you have allowed the deliberate deviation of the post writer to carry you away from the focus of discussion here. Please do read the OP and let your comment stay on course. |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by A001: 11:45am On Sep 21, 2021 |
hupernikao:The book is very much related to the OP. This is because the author did a detailed analysis of the concept of coincidence in the book. Coincidence is the central idea of the post, and in the literature, he gave what can be called a scientific model explaining how prayers (wished) are sometimes answered through the power of coincidence, a force of nature. I find the model, which is based on the concept of interference (constructive and destructive interference) in Physics, fascinating. The work is simply a masterpiece. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by hupernikao: 11:57am On Sep 21, 2021 |
A001: Does the book also assumed that all religion take coincidence as miracles? Does the book make silly assumptions as seen in the OP? Like I said focus on the OP not a book that doesn't solve the OP. |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by A001: 12:17pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
hupernikao:The answers to your questions have already been provided in the book. If interested, get it and educate yourself. But if reading is a problem for you, then I can't help you. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by budaatum: 2:19pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
hupernikao: Actually, you'd need to have some knowledge of Otem and Atum to understand what Otem writes. You'd definitely need some reading of Otem's writings to understand Otem, but I guess he's not writing for the understanding of the far too lazy to do research. Anyone who studied for a degree would know learning involves "searching" books your lecturer boasted about. If you don't do the research, which is what it is, you'd need to pay someone to write your dissertation. 2 Likes |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by hupernikao: 3:00pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
budaatum: It's the lowest form of intelligence to always assume you know more than others and think you are far learned than others who you have never met them before. Likewise is a deception of arrogance to think you are actually making a point by speaking or thinking you know what you don't even have an idea about. What have you read in this life that you are speaking about reading and research. Otem kó, you Item ní. Internet má try o. Giving voice to the voiceless. 2 Likes |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by Amatarasha(f): 3:18pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
budaatum:Hahahahaha ![]() ![]() ![]() I have seen ur soul the same way I saw last night's episode of models . budaatum you are very confused confused words of u like right now #1 saying foolish religious ones who are deceived by the tricks of coincidence are lucky #2 You dont fvccking care what scoreline or what otem talks about , n you count ur soul amongst wisefellows hellvictorinho or kobojunkie are wiser #3 saying maradona is a god of football is madness dear budaatum Your confusion is affecting me , pls on which side are u ? Are you for Growing lights or for diming lights? |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by Amatarasha(f): 3:25pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
hupernikao:Akuya , do you know me ? Listen where ur wisdom ends that's were mine stupidity begins , That I chose to be rude to u doesn't make you wiser than I am OK, As I see you , as selfish as you are , u must be a wicked opportunist |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by Amatarasha(f): 3:26pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
A001:the guy is damn dull let him be , he might be one of the ogbanje / witch hunters |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by hupernikao: 3:54pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
Amatarasha: ![]() |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by Amatarasha(f): 3:59pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
hupernikao:once more shut up ! Which nonsense book have u read , bible and dictionary na book? I guess u are a theologist I define u guys as the scienctific wing of d dull movement called Christianity , #1 you confuse the market fools on the omni-science knowledge of jehovah-jireh #2 you talk like brain-palsied parrot as you discuss how ur god created stars ,moon and sun that moves around earth #3 You selfish opportunists will call anyone who asked u simple question like" If Adam and eve are d first humans who created dinosaurs? " possessed by belzebuul #4 Empty scientists who always hide at d word mysteries to cover their total ignorance and universal foolishness Y is earth round ? Mystery Who gave birth to Jehovah ? Mystery Pls uncle explain Trinity ? Mystery Y is Jehovah so dumb? Mystery As 4 u Budaatum this is the first time you made sense , for this your sins are forgiven you oldling! |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by Amatarasha(f): 4:02pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
hupernikao:iya é e pélé , abeg talk to the hands Mr wiseman lolz ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by budaatum: 4:09pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
Glad to know you have interest in watching my soul. I'd suggest you go read some of buda's writings however, because its very obvious that my soul you think you've been seeing has blinded you from comprehending what buda writes, and that's if you have the sight to read it, which you very obviously haven't, because if you had read buda you'd know buda does not do side. Amatarasha: |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by budaatum: 4:10pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
hupernikao: Poor you. |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by budaatum: 4:20pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
A001: You do Egypt a disservice. The Israelites learnt about God from Egypt, according to the Torah. If Egyptians hadn't taught Moses to read and write no one would even have heard of him, and Christ wouldn't have known to say "it is written" if he too hadn't gone to school in Egypt, just like some here who can't bother to read. If they bother to read they'd understand why it is written that "out of Egypt I called my Son", and then might they start to wonder what "my Son" actually means. https://www.nairaland.com/5232179/monotheism-lord-gods 1 Like |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by Nobody: 9:21pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
Amatarasha: What are you celebrating? That I may die tomorrow? |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by hupernikao: 10:34pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
Amatarasha: Is this an online attitude or this is how you are? You aren't communicating but just typing alphabets. You summed an embodiment of all that could be wrong with someone who can't discuss reasonably. Why are you tensed? Why are you agitated? If you are troubled, why not seek help in those place you find knowledge. The people who will discuss with you face to face have to really try to deal with attitude issue rather than the discussion at hand. Don't you have people around you to help you kill this strange attitude? Or you have showcase same to them and got them tired. I beg of you, go and learn how to relate with people even if you don't share the same opinion or ideas. Your display here is very short of someone to have a discussion with. Please help yourself. |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by BigCowH0rn: 11:24pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
Amatarasha: Lol ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by triplechoice(m): 11:12am On Sep 22, 2021 |
OtemAtum: What is the power of coincidence? How exactly does it work to cause Chelsea and Liverpool to have the same pattern of results in the first few weeks of the English football season? |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum: 6:13am On Sep 23, 2021 |
hupernikao:What makes you think that they are mere assumptions? This is a book that has vividly exposed the lies of all religions and has revealed the spiritual cage of your god Jehovah, the Muslim god Allah and other gods of religion and there is no god here or anywhere that can contest it. Check for facts in the book and be enlightened. 1 Like |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum: 6:17am On Sep 23, 2021 |
triplechoice:Power of Coincidence is already intertwined into nature at the beginning of existence. It's a kind of 'whatever will be will be.' But the religionists think that things that be are because of their prayers, not knowing that they must just be, with or without their prayers. If someone is to survive cancer, with or without prayers, he will survive it, but the religionists will pray over all cancer cases and then maybe one out of 40 patients will survive it and they think that it is their prayers that worked. They are not aware that some irreligious people have survived it too. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by triplechoice(m): 12:59pm On Sep 23, 2021 |
OtemAtum: You have not answered the questions I asked. What is the power of coincidence or define it. How exactly does it work to cause miracles or the pattern of results you listed? Your reply does not make any sense to me. I can as well say that the power of abracadabra is the reason miracles happens. And just as you have written above, I could also say the power of abracadabra is intertwined in nature and then go on to write the same meaningless sentences which doesn't explain anything. How does the power of coincidence work since you say it is responsible for those patterns observed? 1 Like |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by hupernikao: 5:04pm On Sep 23, 2021 |
OtemAtum: Ekú isé |
Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum: 2:13am On Sep 24, 2021 |
triplechoice:The power of Coincidence is a natural power. It is not a power you and I possess. It is like asking me how the power of nature works. 4 Likes 1 Share |
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