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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by Nobody: 9:38am On Sep 21, 2021
twosquare:
China decided to keep her currency weak to the dollar to favour its economy and attract foreign companies for the sake of cheap labour.

Often, the US has accused China of currency manipulation to keep it weak (try and Google this).





this is not the reason China keeps the Yuan weak. It keeps a weak Currency because it's exports are cheaper on the international market.
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by yusuf0876(m): 9:42am On Sep 21, 2021
twosquare:
Because then, we were export-focused economy through which we earn forex. No free lazy money like oil. Most forex are from cash crops then.
you're right,i pray we get it right soonest,it's not too late.we can be great again
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by aminusodiq(m): 9:42am On Sep 21, 2021
ITbomb:
When you don't produce anything that another country would need, your currency falls

If what you are producing is wanted by another country, your currency will be strong

Problem is that we depend on oil as we cannot produce any other thing, so when we were producing and selling oil at high quantities, our currency was stable.
Now that most buyers of oil are looking elsewhere, we don't sell enough to balance what we are buying from other countries, so our Naira falls

I believe this is "layman" enough
thanks for the analysis... I couldn't have explained it better
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by aminusodiq(m): 9:43am On Sep 21, 2021
Hismasterpiece:


so the reason for our currency devaluation is because we don't export anything besides oil? But what about UAE? Isn't it the money they make from oil that's the reason their country is the way it is?
tourism... Business hub
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by aminusodiq(m): 9:44am On Sep 21, 2021
I fit give u 20 years ban ooo.. This is too harsh on the mods
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by oshonwambada: 9:44am On Sep 21, 2021
ITbomb:
When you don't produce anything that another country would need, your currency falls

If what you are producing is wanted by another country, your currency will be strong

Problem is that we depend on oil as we cannot produce any other thing, so when we were producing and selling oil at high quantities, our currency was stable.
Now that most buyers of oil are looking elsewhere, we don't sell enough to balance what we are buying from other countries, so our Naira falls

I believe this is "layman" enough
what is kuwait producing that makes its dinar to be higher than all?
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by deavicky(m): 9:54am On Sep 21, 2021
Hismasterpiece:
Hello.

Recently i have been hearing about the dollar going up in value.

And this has brought about a hike in the prices of commodities in the market and has also brought about a hike in the cost of living of the average Nigerian.

So things are tough in the country now because of this dollar phenomenon

So i would like to know what determines the value of a country's currency and why the Nigerian Naira appears to constantly reducing in value while that of America keeps going higher and higher.

Anybody with meaningful information is welcome. Thanks.
Buhari.
We export few things in agriculture and oil.
Now insecurity has reduced our our agricultural products to the barest.
2. Insecurity has also prevent foreign investors to invest in the country. A lot too prevent them ranging from bad government, bad road, electricity and so on.
The crude we even export we go go back to import them back in a higher rate than we export. So plus or minus we are not exporting anything.
It pains me that before now cefe used to be 3000 to 1000 Naria but today it is 1000 cefe to 1000 Naria and there is tendency for it to keep getting value over Naria.
3. Borrowing money too reduces the value of our currency.
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by Shadysen: 10:06am On Sep 21, 2021
third world issue.
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by Basic123: 10:06am On Sep 21, 2021
VeeVeeMyLuv:

Take for instance someone from abroad want to invest, start a company, the person will have to settle the governor, give some percentage of funds to elders, community leaders, thugs and what have you. This way, so many a investor could not invest in our country. These investors would have greatly helped in reducing the chronic unemployment (shebi u sef see how foolish these people upstairs are?).


When there is high perception of insecurity, people including the leaders, the led, the foreigners looking to invest, tourists will be thinking about avoiding the country, divesting, or trying to run away from their motherland!
FDI will be running away. Young persons who are thinking of starting a family, building house or investment will think twice or be reluctant to do that.

The moment more persons lose hope and faith on the country that is when there has to be drastic change to correct the problem.

Yes the oil export is not enough (or let's say the economic people made us believe that). In addition it has been dwindling over the years.
The world is turning to alternative green energy/electric cars. Another painful aspect is that the same export is been imported as refined fuel (of which govt claims to pay heavy subsidies). undecided

You are making sense....MIMIKO CHASE DANGOTE REFINARY AWAY FROM ONDO STATE TO LAGOS STATE.TINUBU/FASHOLA VISITED DANGOTE HIMSELF TO COME AND INVEST IN LAGOS.IT PAIN ME DIE.

JUST OF RECENT, SOME PEOPLE AROUND MONIYA,IBADAN,OYO STATE PROTESTED THAT THEIR LAND SHOULDN BE CONVERTED TO A CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT BY OYO STATE GOVERNMENT.

JUST OF RECENT, A MAN WANTED TO ESTABLISH UNIVERSITY ON ILOBU, THE PEOPLE OF ILOBLE TOLD HIM THAT THEY CAN ONLY LEASE THEIR LAND FOR 25YEARS.HE TOOK THE UNIVERSITY TO IWO.

NIGERIANS CONTRIBUTED TO OUR UNDER DEVELOPMENT AS MUCH AS OUR STUPID LEADERS.

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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by SenatePresdo(m): 10:08am On Sep 21, 2021
diesel86:


That is an intentional economic strategy by china, if china makes their currency to high automatically their goods become expensive and people would start looking elsewhere to buy.

Chinese Yuan is far bigger than Japanese Yen in exchange rate, but Japanese products are are far more expensive than Chinese products.

So I don't think that is the case.

If Chinese currency Worths more than its currently worth, the price of good would still be the same (roughly).

Assuming the sell TV for 500 Yuan now, if their currency gets weighty, they would be selling it for 150 yuan.

That your currency is high doesn't mean your goods would be high in equivalent to your currency.

If not, an iPhone 11 would be sold around 250,000 dollars na, because that's the price in naira (250,000)

But iPhone 11 I sold below 1k dollars.

That's is that... The price of good has nothing to do with the worth of your currency in exchange market.
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by vertueptime: 10:09am On Sep 21, 2021
Speculative activities
Debt
Regulation


VeeVeeMyLuv:
It is not that Dollar is going up

Instead it is your naira that is diving downwards.

@ topic

1. Fisical responsibility and accountability.
2. The level of greed & corruption.
3. Human rights law.
4. Foi.
5. Ease of doing business
6. Level of insecurity
7. Amount of export to import.

I think these points are sufficient

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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by ofiko123(m): 10:11am On Sep 21, 2021
Over to the economists in the house...?? Where are the brainy people..someone said Export,Import,demand and supply.. More suggestions are needed please...
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by Born2conquer: 10:14am On Sep 21, 2021
Hismasterpiece:


so the reason for our currency devaluation is because we don't export anything besides oil? But what about UAE? Isn't it the money they make from oil that's the reason their country is the way it is?
Tourism
UAE earns massively from tourism

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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by SlayerForever: 10:21am On Sep 21, 2021
Hismasterpiece:


so the reason for our currency devaluation is because we don't export anything besides oil? But what about UAE? Isn't it the money they make from oil that's the reason their country is the way it is?


Who told you so.
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by NairaMaster1(m): 10:23am On Sep 21, 2021
SUPERPACK:
Export, import, demand, supply.

Plus debts.
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by AlwaysMotun: 10:51am On Sep 21, 2021
when there is no security in a country, the Investors who are supposed to bring in money to invest in the country will not come, they will fear for the bandit. The same also goes for ease of doing business... Investors are looking for countries whose policies are stable and progressive and not the ones that will wake up tomorrow to ban different inventions and companies as we have in the past few months.

Hismasterpiece:


so doing business in Nigeria isn't easy? how do you mean?

how does insecurity affect the country's currency value

doesn't nigeria export oil among other things?

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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by Standing5(m): 10:58am On Sep 21, 2021
SenatePresdo:


Why isn't Chinese yuan stronger than that of British pounds, because China is among the major export country in the world.
it isn't stronger then Pounds yet but is on its way gradually if you are observant. The strength Yuan has lost over the years is being gained.
To reverse ours too, we need to export more than we import then the net inflow of money will strengthen the naira. It will strengthen the Naira because CBN doesn't just print money for printing sake.

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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by mfm04622: 11:06am On Sep 21, 2021
VeeVeeMyLuv:
It is not that Dollar is going up

Instead it is your naira that is diving downwards.

@ topic

1. Fisical responsibility and accountability.
2. The level of greed & corruption.
3. Human rights law.
4. Foi.
5. Ease of doing business
6. Level of insecurity
7. Amount of export to import.

I think these points are sufficient

Next time don't comment when you don't know the topic! Only your point 7 has anything to do with the value of a currency! And you put it last!
Shit!!!
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by mfm04622: 11:07am On Sep 21, 2021
Hismasterpiece:


so doing business in Nigeria isn't easy? how do you mean?

how does insecurity affect the country's currency value

doesn't nigeria export oil among other things?

He doesn't know anything but wanted to contribute!
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by mfm04622: 11:09am On Sep 21, 2021
Hismasterpiece:


so the reason for our currency devaluation is because we don't export anything besides oil? But what about UAE? Isn't it the money they make from oil that's the reason their country is the way it is?

We do not export enough oil to meet the demand of foreign currencies we use in importing.

The more we produce locally, the less we need to import, the less the demand for foreign currencies. The more we export, the more foreign currencies we have to meet our demand for foreign currencies to import things we need

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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by Nobody: 11:10am On Sep 21, 2021
SporaD8:
Gross Domestic Product, Balance of Payment and Foreign Reserve.

This. Nigeria imports more than it exports so that alone keeps it in deficit.

Then since the savings Abacha made all these ones just keep spending our foreign reserves. The best economic time we had in recent times was under Abacha. You save when price of oil is high (GEJ Bleep up) then support your local industries for export and keep borrowing low (Baba Buhari which way forward).

We keep bringing in substandard leaders from local to state to federal so the same issues keep coming up.
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by xamodans: 11:22am On Sep 21, 2021
It's simply the inability of the country to produce it's own and sell locally and also export. All we do is import 95% and glory in them.. Shoes, bags, phones and it's accessories, cars and parts, cloths, electronics and many more.. By the time we pay for all these, not with naira but with dollars, with these dollars rise, while naira postrates..
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by lexyj123(f): 11:26am On Sep 21, 2021
A lot of factors and variables determines the value of a currency. But ultimately, demand and supply of a currency is the Almighty variable which every other variables and factors can be shrinked into.

forget those big grammars, forget those calculuses by "ECONOMISTS" . international best practice and principles dont work here.
strange, firm, and tactical approaches are require to address our policy fighting peculiar nature.

Above all, Nigeria is an Absurd society, Parallel markets of currency do not exist in sane society.
The parallel markets which are controlled by the elites are for extraordinary daily profit taking and racketeering, milking the economy at the expense of the masses.
Government lacks the political will to tackle these FX market elites.

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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by Nobody: 11:43am On Sep 21, 2021
SUPERPACK:
Export, import, demand, supply.

Huge Export. Makes your currency and economy stronger.


Little of import

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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by Llyodsjids(m): 11:58am On Sep 21, 2021
Olumyco:
This is Economics 101.... Demand and Supply.

Actually the question should be relative value and not just value.

To understand it very well. Let us see Dollar as a commodity. If there is a shortage of Dollar and we don't want it to finish, what will be done is to increase the amount of money to buy it.

If I need 2 naira to buy 1 dollar, the way the dollar will finish... infact within two days all our dollars in our foreign reserve will get depleted. But if I need like 10 naira to buy 1 dollar, the demand for it will reduce. If I increase to like 100 naira, the quantity of dollar that will be bought will reduce.

So what CBN does is to regulate the amount of money needed to purchase the dollar so that it won't finish faster and can also be commensurate to how the dollar flows in. So its a balance of rate at which dollar flows in and flows out.

Therefore the reason why naira is low compared to dollar is simply because:

1. There is low supply of dollar

Solution
a. We need to increase our export by becoming more heavily industrilized. Exporting raw materials won't make us achieve this. We need to export more finished goods and services.

2. There is high demand for dollar

Solution
We need to decrease our import by becoming industrialized also which will make us produce and consume locally without the need to import everything we consume in the country.

Facts

Things that take away our dollar

1. IT: Phones, Electronic gadgets etc are imported

2. IT: Hosting websites, buying domain name etc

3. Many sends their children abroad to go and school

4. Medical Tourism

5. Some people uses their naira ATM to withdraw dollars abroad. The deduction falls on our foreign reserve.

6. We export crude oil and import refined oil. It's terrible

And so on...

Measures Used by CBN to control this

1. The CBN tries to control this by reducing the amount that can be transacted in dollars per day which is 100 dollar.

2. Refusing to give dollar to importers who wants to import what we produde already in the country

3. Banning of illegal forex organizations

And so on.

Another Solution to this

1. The government should encourage remote work by encouraging people in the IT space to do remote work with foreign companies.

2. The government should ban some imported goods to allow locally made goods to thrive

3. The government should study the goods and services we import, then try and get a foreign investor to come and establish the company that produces such or render such services here in the country.

4. The government should stop politicians from seeking medical support abroad.

And so on
Thanks.
You nailed it ...you explained it all ..
Thanks
This comprehensive.

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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 12:19pm On Sep 21, 2021
olalekan1:
Many people don't understand the effect of exchange rate speculation on the price of goods and services in this country. See below

Assuming you buy and sell phones, the phones are all foreign manufactured phone; by implication, you need to convert your hard earned Naira to the foreign currency e.g. dollar. Assuming you invested 20 million naira and this was when 1 dollar is being exchanged for 300 naira. This implies that your 20 million naira when converted to dollar is 66,667 dollars.

Your goods arrived and you decided to sell them within the possible shortest period so that you can re-stock. While waiting for buyers, you started hearing that one dollar is now 400 naira or 500 and so on. As a business man that does not want to run out of business, what will you do?

As business man, you will definitely increase the price of your old stock. If you failed to do this, the 20 million naira you invested will not be able to purchase the quantity of phones you had initially bought when the exchange rate was 300.

As a business man, you have done the right thing to protect your investment but this action will have effect on the purchasing power of the consumer.

That is how the trend will continue because the consumer too will increase their own price of whatever goods or services they are offering so that they can be able to get what they need.

This is inflation and the only solution is that we patronize our own products and services else we will continue to cry while we enrich foreign economy.

I agree with you in a normal economy. But now most of the local products are just borrowing money to produce. Imagine if you were supposed to import rice for 3 billion US Dollar in here to feed the people, now you are now boring 6 billion US Dollar in here to produce that rice and what you are actually producing is 1 billion US Dollar in year of rice what is the used. This is the biggest problem with both of the local manufacturing companies in the country they go and borrow huge amounts of money and invest the money in other countries. Some companies may go and borrow 10 million u.s. dollar and only invest 1 million US Dollar in a project used the rest of the money for other things and expect the 1 million u.s. dollar to feedback the 10 million. Look at dangote oil refinery grossly over-budget. Look at eko Atlantic more than 400% over budget and only 25% complete. This is the major problem with locally produced goods we are borrowing money to produce those could even more than if we were importing them. This is what the government did not know about and you look at food now the price of food is very expensive because we borrow a huge amount of money to produce the food

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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by Yankee101: 12:30pm On Sep 21, 2021
It's simple economics, accounting and perception

You require certain goods and services for your country, for example medical supplies, fuel, food, manufacturing equipments, finished goods, shipping services etc, and you consume these over a period of time, say one year at a time you spend $1bn on these things.

But your entire income, internal (taxes, fees and levies) and external (fx from crude oil and raw material sales) is $0.3bn

It means you have a shortfall of $0.7bn. So you must borrow to meet this obligation or suffer from non supplies or defaults.

Just like you go to the market everyday and buy stuff on credit and sometimes miss the deadlines to repay, similarly, Nigeria is almost at that stage. It struggles continuously to employ it's large youth population, pay a living wage, pay for all imports (that's why the CBN reduced types of goods and services it's ready to approve fx for) and local contractors.


So all countries are ranked according to their income vis a vis their population (GDP divided by population = PPP i.e. purchasing power parity)

So your country's PPP compares each country to another to see how much is at the disposal of each citizen on average. For a country like Nigeria with a corruption index of 28 (imagine scoring 28/100 in an exam, you don fail be that), it means less of the money in a calculated PPP reaches the general population.

So when countries are ranked, by PPP, yours will still further be discounted for corruption and then you total ability to meet your liabilities peg your currency's networth.

So your foreign reserves are supposed to have a minimum of 6 months of forward expenses to offset liabilities. Some have decades in store, Nigeria struggles with barely a couple of years on the official market. But because they don't fund all fx needs, the business man needs to find fx from other sources. That is the black market. If the black market folds today you won't get some drugs, clothes, imported food, machinery, cars or be able to send your kids feeding money while schooling abroad.

Hence the continuing low value of our currency, called devaluation.

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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by Wonberi(m): 12:40pm On Sep 21, 2021
you are correct, but don't forget more investors still troop into UAE. The number of New and renewed Trade license daily is on the high side because of the easy of doing business, security, and so on... What can Nigeria offer a foreigner to invest in the country's economy; high electricity bill is not the problem but poor supply, poor transportation( staffs and commodities), insecurity and so many negative vibes. I hope i myself have a proposal to end all these negatives but it seems impossible. something like a curse.
Hismasterpiece:


so the reason for our currency devaluation is because we don't export anything besides oil? But what about UAE? Isn't it the money they make from oil that's the reason their country is the way it is?

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Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by LoveJesus87(m): 12:44pm On Sep 21, 2021
ITbomb:
When you don't produce anything that another country would need, your currency falls

If what you are producing is wanted by another country, your currency will be strong

Problem is that we depend on oil as we cannot produce any other thing, so when we were producing and selling oil at high quantities, our currency was stable.
Now that most buyers of oil are looking elsewhere, we don't sell enough to balance what we are buying from other countries, so our Naira falls

I believe this is "layman" enough
BRILLIANT
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by greggng: 12:53pm On Sep 21, 2021
Hismasterpiece:
Hello.

Recently i have been hearing about the dollar going up in value.

And this has brought about a hike in the prices of commodities in the market and has also brought about a hike in the cost of living of the average Nigerian.

So things are tough in the country now because of this dollar phenomenon

So i would like to know what determines the value of a country's currency and why the Nigerian Naira appears to constantly reducing in value while that of America keeps going higher and higher.

Anybody with meaningful information is welcome. Thanks.


Like most assets, a currency is ruled by supply and demand. When the demand for something goes up, so does the price. ... Because more dollars are needed to buy the same amount of yen, the dollar becomes a weak currency. In the case if Nigeria we need more naira to buy dollars ...the Nigeria becomes weaker
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by LoveJesus87(m): 12:54pm On Sep 21, 2021
cloud:
the only difference is that unlike Nigeria, UAE does not import refined fuel back to the country. Remember that this imported fuel is paid for in scarce dollars.
good point
Re: What Determines The Value Of A Country's Currency? by lekonso: 12:57pm On Sep 21, 2021
How much productive you are as a nation determines the value of your currency. And how much value you are adding to your products. Even the crude oil we have we can't add value to it by refining it and export. So how can our currency have value.

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