Olayoo:

You don't talk like an atheist so far. You are a newbie atheist. I myself can prove God dosent exist far better than u. People like u will just wake up see small things in a book and start shouting there is no God.

stop being aggressive
I wasn’t the person that said you should start talking about 4th dimension when you don’t know basic physics

Workch:
stop being aggressive
I wasn’t the person that said you should start talking about 4th dimension when you don’t know basic physics

You've proved nothing about the fourth dimension. Or OK. Let me ask you again. Please read and understand before replying. Does the fourth dimension exist? If yes tell me y if no tell me y .

Olayoo:

You've proved nothing about the fourth dimension. Or OK. Let me ask you again. Please read and understand before replying. Does the fourth dimension exist? If yes tell me y if no tell me y .

Yes it does.

It’s explain in the theory of relativity by Albert Einstein. But you are bad in physics

If I were you, I will go to google and learn about theory of relativity but no, you only want to argue and say god exist blindly which I will agree to

That’s why you don’t know it

God still doesn’t exist

Workch:
Nothing in the universe shows that god exist. Nothing.
Even if a god exist, it’s certainly not the Christian God. That god is a joke and his descriptions are full of flaws, his books are full of lies and unrealistic stuffs

We have pondered it several times and it’s all jargons

Weird . u said there is no evidence that my God exist. U didn't specify which what kind of deity. U contradict yourself several times than I can imagine. U said "Nothing in the universe shows that " God" exist". And you also said "Even if a god exist, it’s certainly not the Christian God". what are u doing to yourself. Please does God exist. I'm beginning to misunderstand what you even stand for.

Workch:
Yes it does.

It’s explain in the theory of relativity by Albert Einstein. But you are bad in physics

If I were you, I will go to google and learn about theory of relativity but no, you only want to argue and say god exist blindly which I will agree to

That’s why you don’t know it

God still doesn’t exist

U are running from explaining why. Because ull get stuck in the middle gasping for a sensible explanation. I understand. If I'm talking blindly point to a point when I did so.

Olayoo:

Weird . u said there is no evidence that my God exist. U didn't specify. U contradict yourself several times than I can imagine. U said "Nothing in the universe shows that " God" exist". And you also said "Even if a god exist, it’s certainly not the Christian God". what are u doing to yourself. Please does God exist. I'm beginning to misunderstand what you even stand for.

No evidence god exist sir.

If you have evidence, show me

Olayoo:

U are running from explaining why. Because ull get stuck in the middle gasping for a sensible explanation. I understand. If I'm talking blindly point to a point when I did so.

I a telling you to read theory of relativity or ask a good ss3 science student to explain it to you

Since you are ignorant

The scientific world have started talking about 10 dimensions in string theory and you are here still stuck and struggling to grasp 4th dimension

What a pity

BassReeves:
Nope, not Flying Spaghetti Monster nor even Lying Spaghetti Monster. They are impastas, but thats one place to start from, for you.

You got it? Hope you got the impastas, imposters joke

BassReeves:
Anyway, your murderous hatred of God betrays your atheistic parochialism and thats what in your acute consciousness killed God

Olayoo:
You don't talk like an atheist so far. You are a newbie atheist. I myself can prove God dosent exist far better than u. People like u will just wake up see small things in a book and start shouting there is no God.

We are all born atheists and/or agnostics. When I was an atheist and/or agnostic, I couldn't even prove that God doesnt and/or didnt exist.

All I can say concerning Workch is that any man denying the existence of God is a rebel and removing God from existence is one great act of rebellion.

Workch:
I a telling you to read theory of relativity or ask a good ss3 science student to explain it to you

Since you are ignorant

The scientific world have started talking about 10 dimensions in string theory and you are here still stuck and struggling to grasp 4th dimension

What a pity

If u find some questions stupid. Then you are the ignorant one. Stop shielding and running. It just takes a simple answer to settle this things. I asked to prove ordinary 4th dimension. If I say 10 nko. You need to grind up your argument. No question is stupid. If you can't answer just say it. No man is an island of knowledge. I'll explain it to u.

Workch:
ok thanks

You very welcome.

You mentioned string theory and relativity. Do they teach those in Nigerian schools yet? If they do, then I think you must become more forceful in your teaching those who refuse to learn, but if they don't, perhaps compassion for those who aren't taught it is what is required as we can not all be as blessed and priviledged as you are.

P.s The book below that I ordered arrived today.
Here's a link to a pdf download for those who love learning as opposed to believing.

budaatum:


You very welcome.

You mentioned string theory and relativity. Do they teach those in Nigerian schools yet? If they do, then I think you must become more forceful in your teaching those who refuse to learn, but if they don't, perhaps compassion for those who aren't taught it is what is required as we can not all be as blessed and priviledged as you are.

What are u even saying. Do u understand what u are saying

budaatum:


You very welcome.

You mentioned string theory and relativity. Do they teach those in Nigerian schools yet? If they do, then I think you must become more forceful in your teaching those who refuse to learn, but if they don't, perhaps compassion for those who aren't taught it is what is required as we can not all be as blessed and priviledged as you are.

P.s The book below that I ordered arrived today.
Here's a link to a pdf download for those who love learning as opposed to believing.

I don’t teach, however I learnt some of these basics in my curiosity to find answers to the god hypothesis.

budaatum:


You very welcome.

You mentioned string theory and relativity. Do they teach those in Nigerian schools yet? If they do, then I think you must become more forceful in your teaching those who refuse to learn, but if they don't, perhaps compassion for those who aren't taught it is what is required as we can not all be as blessed and priviledged as you are.

P.s The book below that I ordered arrived today.
Here's a link to a pdf download for those who love learning as opposed to believing.

Thanks for sharing, I will go through it.

Olayoo:

What are u even saying. Do u understand what u are saying

How can I not understand what I am saying, Olayoo.

Don't you think you should act responsibly and just admit you don't understand what I've said, then ask appropriate questions in order to understand what I am saying if you really want to know what I've said?

Olayoo:

If u find some questions stupid. Then you are the ignorant one. Stop shielding and running. It just takes a simple answer to settle this things. I asked to prove ordinary 4th dimension. If I say 10 nko. You need to grind up your argument. No question is stupid. If you can't answer just say it. No man is an island of knowledge. I'll explain it to u.

I don’t think I should be lecturing you on 4h dimensions, a puzzle that has been solved since 1916.
It’s your problem if you are so ignorant that you can’t understand a 1916 puzzle

It’s worse that you can’t even use google to learn

budaatum:


How can I not understand what I am saying, Olayoo.

Don't you think you should act responsibly and just admit you don't understand what I've said, then ask appropriate questions in order to understand what I am saying if you really want to know what I've said?

I asked what where u saying .

Workch:
I don’t think I should be lecturing you on 4h dimensions, a puzzle that has been solved since 1916.
It’s your problem if you are so ignorant that you can’t understand a 1916 puzzle

It’s worse that you can’t even use google to learn

...you are funny. I swear. If it was explained in 1916 and u can define it in simple terms. Brah. U don't understand it.

Workch:
I don’t think I should be lecturing you on 4h dimensions, a puzzle that has been solved since 1916.
It’s your problem if you are so ignorant that you can’t understand a 1916 puzzle

It’s worse that you can’t even use google to learn

So far...I've learnt a lot from this discourse, and come with a conclusion that we can't know for certain if God exist. We can't prove he's existence and neither can we disprove it. Science will explain better to us the meaning and limits of our physical world and with technology we will alter it. God doesn't have to be a conscious being. He could be the sum total of the universe or multiverse, he could be a quark or a wave( he could have started the big bang) we won't know. But we we do know is that we can't look to superstitions to guide humanity. NEITHER can we ascertain for sure that that he/ she or whatever extra dimension he exist DOES NOT EXIST.

Workch:
I don’t teach, however I learnt some of these basics in my curiosity to find answers to the god hypothesis.

And your not teaching is why I have challenged you on this thread. You learnt, and you have assumed everyone has been priviledged to learn what you have learnt so you have come here to challenge them for not being as informed as you are.

It shows you do not value the work you've done and think everyone has done the same work you did, thereby basically undervaluing yourself, in my opinion. If you weren't undervaluing yourself, the words below that a wise man is written to have uttered would have significant meaning to you. But I guess you'd throw out the baby with the water you bathed it in, since your angst isn't quite against some imaginary God that no one has seen but against a physical book that anyone can pick up and read and either decide to brainlessly believe, or understand.

See below the same error, belief as opposed to understanding, being made by a science graduate.

Olayoo:

So far...I've learnt a lot from this discourse, and come with a conclusion that we can't know for certain if God exist. We can't prove he's existence and neither can we disprove it. Science will explain better to us the meaning and limits of our physical world and with technology we will alter it. God doesn't have to be a conscious being. He could be the sum total of the universe or multiverse, he could be a quark or a wave( he could have started the big bang) we won't know. But we we do know is that we can't look to superstitions to guide humanity. NEITHER can we ascertain for sure that that he/ she or whatever extra dimension he exist DOES NOT EXIST.

DEAL WITH IT.

Olayoo:

I asked what where u saying .

That's not how questions are asked olayoo!

You need to show what of what I've said that you understand, then ask an appropriate relevant question, or it shall be assumed that the conversation is way far above your level of intellect.

Please know that I will respond to relevant questions.

budaatum:


That's not how questions are asked olayoo!

You need to show what of what I've said that you understand, then ask an appropriate relevant question, or it shall be assumed that the conversation is way far above your level of intellect.

Please know that I will respond to relevant questions.

If I may ask, are also saying A God does not exist or a christian God does not exist.

Olayoo:

So far...I've learnt a lot from this discourse, and come with a conclusion that we can't know for certain if God exist. We can't prove he's existence and neither can we disprove it. Science will explain better to us the meaning and limits of our physical world and with technology we will alter it. God doesn't have to be a conscious being. He could be the sum total of the universe or multiverse, he could be a quark or a wave( he could have started the big bang) we won't know. But we we do know is that we can't look to superstitions to guide humanity. NEITHER can we ascertain for sure that that he/ she or whatever extra dimension he exist DOES NOT EXIST.

Thankfully, Jesus is written to have dealt with this. "Inasmuch as ye have done to those you see before you, God in heaven whom you see not is pleased".

If you understand that, you'd 'worship' (love, is the word Christ used) your fellow human being, if you know the meaning of 'worship' that is and don't just follow the believing multitude. Anyone who understands that would hesitate at insulting those they believe God breathed into mud and made.

Olayoo:

If I may ask, are also saying A God does not exist or a christian God does not exist.

God existing or not, is Irrelevant, to me, at least, is what I am saying. The devil believes God exists and then trembles in fear, we read, so of what value is believing if one does not do the will of said God? Would one not just be some foolish dumb lordist whom we are told would incur a huge dental bill?

budaatum:


And your not teaching is why I have challenged you on this thread. You learnt, and you have assumed everyone has been priviledged to learn what you have learnt so you have come here to challenge them for not being as informed as you are.

It shows you do not value the work you've done and think everyone has done the same work you did, thereby basically undervaluing yourself, in my opinion. If you weren't undervaluing yourself, the words below that a wise man is written to have uttered would have significant meaning to you. But I guess you'd throw out the baby with the water you bathed it in, since your angst isn't quite against some imaginary God that no one has seen but against a physical book that anyone can pick up and read and either decide to brainlessly believe, or understand.

See below the same error, belief as opposed to understanding, being made by a science graduate.

I am willing to sincerely learn and teach anyone who’s willing but the moment I sense that the person I am conversing with is dogmatic and just willing to force his opinion down my throat, I stop taking such a person seriously.

Olayoo:

So far...I've learnt a lot from this discourse, and come with a conclusion that we can't know for certain if God exist. We can't prove he's existence and neither can we disprove it. Science will explain better to us the meaning and limits of our physical world and with technology we will alter it. God doesn't have to be a conscious being. He could be the sum total of the universe or multiverse, he could be a quark or a wave( he could have started the big bang) we won't know. But we we do know is that we can't look to superstitions to guide humanity. NEITHER can we ascertain for sure that that he/ she or whatever extra dimension he exist DOES NOT EXIST.

Alright calm down dude.
If you want to have a very sane and serious discussion. I’m in.
But if you want to force your religious tenets on me without evidence, I will not allow that

budaatum:


God existing or not, is Irrelevant, to me, at least, is what I am saying. The devil believes God exists and then trembles in fear, we read, so of what value is believing if one does not do the will of said God? Would one not just be some foolish dumb lordist whom we are told would incur a huge dental bill?

U are confusing me. I don't even know what u stand for. I'm trying to explain to Mr workch why a God can exist. U are a christian and u are tackling me...or let me ask . are u a christian.

Olayoo:

So far...I've learnt a lot from this discourse, and come with a conclusion that we can't know for certain if God exist. We can't prove he's existence and neither can we disprove it. Science will explain better to us the meaning and limits of our physical world and with technology we will alter it. God doesn't have to be a conscious being. He could be the sum total of the universe or multiverse, he could be a quark or a wave( he could have started the big bang) we won't know. But we we do know is that we can't look to superstitions to guide humanity. NEITHER can we ascertain for sure that that he/ she or whatever extra dimension he exist DOES NOT EXIST.

Then who should provide the evidence?
Me or the person making the god claim?

Your reply will determine whether I should take you seriously else we can continue in tantrums.

Workch:
Alright calm down dude.
If you want to have a very sane and serious discussion. I’m in.
But if you want to force your religious tenets on me without evidence, I will not allow that

Um forcing nothing on u. I didn't say that God exist. I'm implying that he can exist. Maybe u should read it again.

Olayoo:

U are confusing me. I don't even know what u stand for. I'm trying to explain to Mr workch why a God can exist. U are a christian and u are tackling me...or let me ask . are u a christian.

My stance is clear.

I don’t believe god exist, I didn’t make the god claim, if you claim god exist then I need evidence to be sure you are right.
Our knowledge so far in science already shows that the Christian and Muslim descriptions of god doesn’t add up.

Olayoo:

Um forcing nothing on u. I didn't say that God exist. I'm implying that he can exist. Maybe u should read it again.

We started having issues when you want me to prove that he doesn’t exist.

That’s a faulty line of argument. Maybe I would have given you good audience if you didn’t ask me to disprove something that hasn’t been proven.

Workch:
Then who should provide the evidence?
Me or the person making the god claim?

Your reply will determine whether I should take you seriously else we can continue in tantrums.

Both of you should be open. Religious and atheistic militants. Sometimes atheist act like
religious extremists. If you can't prove or disprove something then be open. The problem here is not if he exist its the definition of God here.