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Acceptable Evidence For God. Which Of The Gods? by Workch: 7:05am On Sep 24, 2021
Any belief that is not substantiated by evidence is nothing more than delusion. In the case of religion, it is mass delusion that has been brought on by organised religions taking advantage of gullible people, their hopes and their fears.

Not convinced? They can’t all be right, can they?

This has been happening for thousands of years, often with organised religions using scare tactics (threats of hell and damnation), ostracisation, persecution, torture and death to any who oppose their belief system. On the other hand, any who follow are promised (again without any merit) rewards of an eternal life of bliss and salvation.

Those organised religions in the meantime have been amassing wealth unequalled in any other part of society. They are dripping with riches, all at the expense of the common man.

So, as an atheist, on the basis that no credible evidence has ever been presented for the existence of any gods (of which there have been thousands) I’m a little confused which god theists would have me believe in. Most ‘philosophical’ arguments (the teleological, cosmological, ontological, intelligent design, irreducible complexity, arguments against evolution or the big bang, arguments that god is responsible for evolution and the big bang, and a whole host of others) completely fail in describing which god is responsible. The same arguments can (and often are) used by theists from many different religions.


All religious scriptures are errant, contradictory and their veracity and authorship have been questioned since their inception. I think most theists don’t even see that their scriptures are not inherently proof of their content and often resort to circular reasoning.

I honestly think most theists want to believe or are afraid not to believe (both positions for many reasons). They’ve been convinced that ‘faith’ is a rational thing - evidence is secondary. Their ‘rational’ justifications for their beliefs are often based on fallacious reasoning or they are simply unwilling to admit that beliefs they’ve held for most of their lives are wrong.

Any evidence for any specific god would not only be incredibly compelling to atheists, it would also be incredibly compelling to theists from all other religions. This is not to say that I would accept an argumentum ad populum as a reasonable cause to change my own beliefs, but it would be a start.

I doubt that such evidence would ever take the form of philosophical argument. However compelling an argument might seem, it is never actual evidence. And of course most arguments are demonstrably fallacious. For me, I think it would have to be an actual physical manifestation of a being that is capable of defying the laws of physics and demonstrating that it was capable of true creation.

What amazes me, utterly astounds me, is that the majority of the people on the planet are willing to accept less.

As far as I can tell, god (from any religion) is indistinguishable from something that simply doesn’t exist, except what theists attempt to tell you. Why they think I would buy into their delusional mindset is beyond me.

Having Faith’ requires having something unproven to exist to believe in. The moment something has empirical evidence, belief is no longer required, that something has become a fact. Unfortunately those that ‘believe’ conflate belief with fact, and in doing so, they put no more effort into the matter. It is always easier and lazier to ‘believe’ in something rather than to truly investigate it.
Re: Acceptable Evidence For God. Which Of The Gods? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:39am On Sep 24, 2021
Workch:
Any belief that is not substantiated by evidence is nothing more than delusion.

Even Better and Truer! Anything that is not substantiated IS A LIE AND FALSEHOOD!

Workch:

In the case of religion, it is mass delusion that has been brought on by organised religions taking advantage of gullible people, their hopes and their fears...

I know that it is very difficult for you but please try Be fair, Just and reasonable for in this world we have seen that there is no engagement or enterprise which is not afflicted by Fake and Adulterated Replicas whether government, school, books, teachings, music even human
beings themselves have fake human beings.

In this world were are troubled with finding the Original from the fakes.

So knowing all this, you can put these aside and ask reasonable questions, if you have any.

Workch:

So, as an atheist, on the basis that no credible evidence has ever been presented for the existence of any gods (of which there have been thousands) I’m a little confused which god theists would have me believe in.

Now you are Lying for I have severally Proven to you without any reasonable doubt from you (for you ran out of proper reasonable questions to ask and fell silent) The existence of God, The Only One and of course only stopping because it is not right for anyone to compell you to follow Him.

Workch:

Most ‘philosophical’ arguments (the teleological, cosmological, ontological, intelligent design, irreducible complexity, arguments against evolution or the big bang, arguments that god is responsible for evolution and the big bang, and a whole host of others) completely fail in describing which god is responsible. The same arguments can (and often are) used by theists from many different religions.

The difference is understandable for "Oluwa" in Yoruba will not have its place to an Igbo man unless they settle the issues and Agree.

Workch:

All religious scriptures are errant, contradictory and their veracity and authorship have been questioned since their inception. I think most theists don’t even see that their scriptures are not inherently proof of their content and often resort to circular reasoning.

It is seen we come and go, we are empty and Full, we are inside and Outside, we Work and we Rest.

This world we have is a world having OPPOSITES, what you would foolishly call contradictory.

We do not have a world where we have ONLY Come and no Go, ONLY Work and no Rest, ONLY Empty and no full.

If Contradictory means presence of Opposites, then we live in a Contradictory World.

Workch:

I honestly think most theists want to believe or are afraid not to believe (both positions for many reasons).

All God Lovers know that "Believe" means "To Begin To Live Upon Something Solid" and not an imagined living in and on Castles in the Sky.

We Live in Solid Rocks and Land.

Workch:

They’ve been convinced that ‘faith’ is a rational thing - evidence is secondary. Their ‘rational’ justifications for their beliefs are often based on fallacious reasoning or they are simply unwilling to admit that beliefs they’ve held for most of their lives are wrong.

These are the Fakes who are actually pagans practicing Witchcrafting but who have deceived you to be God Lovers but they do not have any business with God! grin

Workch:

Any evidence for any specific god would not only be incredibly compelling to atheists, it would also be incredibly compelling to theists from all other religions. This is not to say that I would accept an argumentum ad populum as a reasonable cause to change my own beliefs, but it would be a start...

Do your people not oppose that water is wet?

We can only go as far as possible in proving anything for if you refuse to accept proof, there is nothing anyone can do here.

So I observed that you say this as a consequence of your battles with others who think that they Love God but remember with me, none of your beliefs ever validly stand, for you always fall silent before me or YOU CHANGE POSTS WHICH IS STILL A PROOF THAT YOU HAVE NO VALID COUNTER TO GIVE!
Re: Acceptable Evidence For God. Which Of The Gods? by sonmvayina(m): 10:30am On Sep 24, 2021
There is only one God and creator of the universe...it is just the nomenclature that is different....

God is consciousness..personified...

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