Since God has all knowledge and wisdom and he knows what's best, why did it take Moses to get him to change is mind?

bring up good points why the Lord shouldn't destroy them.

Can we also make God change his mind?

Ayo081:
Bergain or remembering God of his promises is a better word.

Like Abraham did.

tctrills:
In Exodus 32, the Lord was angry with Israel and wanted to destroy them. Moses seemed to plead and bring up good points why the Lord shouldn't destroy them.
God finally yielded to Moses.
Since God has all knowledge and wisdom and he knows what's best, why did it take Moses to get him to change is mind?
Can we also make God change his mind?
Or was that scripture wrongly translated.
Exzodus 32. 9-14.

Bachelorette:
Can a clay advice the porter?

Bachelorette:

God is all knowing God and whatever He has planned, no one can stop it. In the case of Moses, God's plan was to take the Israelites to the promised land, (that was His plan) but they rebelled, complain and murmur........you know the story

Moses only interceded (stood in the gap) in form of prayer and prayed that God should 'remember' what he promised them. Does that sound like an advice? I doubt. That is putting God in remembrance of His Word.

God Himself said "put ye me in remembrance that ye may be justified"

The question is........who can advice God to change His mind on what He had planned to do concerning how the rapture will take place or the woed that await Satan and his followers, I guess no one. I mean NO ONE

Shalom!

Bachelorette:



Abraham did not advice God, he only interceded for the nation.

tctrills:
In Exodus 32, the Lord was angry with Israel and wanted to destroy them. Moses seemed to plead and bring up good points why the Lord shouldn't destroy them.
God finally yielded to Moses.
Since God has all knowledge and wisdom and he knows what's best, why did it take Moses to get him to change is mind?
Can we also make God change his mind?
Or was that scripture wrongly translated.
Exzodus 32. 9-14.

Dtruthspeaker:


As Bachelorette Warned, no man is qualified to give God advice.

But what you see is the Goodness of God in Action in that The Creator speaks with His lesser creation and the creation is permitted to speak to Him.

Many wonderful things took place there.

Ayo081:
Bergain or remembering God of his promises is a better word.

Like Abraham did.

ChiefSosa:

I think Moses' Pleading (emphasis on pleading) was what changed God's mind. The fact he GENUINELY pled must have reduced God's anger, thereby making God give moses a listening ear and an open heart.

I believe moses EMPHASIZED on the good sides of the Israelites that were worth considering, rather than being tossed out.

Fact is: God has actually changed his mind towards us and has shown us mercy at different points in time, even when we are not aware.

MightySparrow:
The Bible tells us it is possible.

jesusjnr2020:
Lol! Really funny question.

What you don't seem to understand is that when God usually had a conversation with His creation, it's often a test to see how much His creation had learnt from His teachings and the instructions He gave them.

So what you see as Moses advising God was Moses actually praying according to the Will of God and His teachings, proving he was an excellent student who had learnt well from God's teachings by his response. Therefore Moses passed God's test with flying colors, like a first class or an A1, because he reacted according to the way God taught him and the same way God would have reacted if God were human.

That's why God heeded what Moses had told Him, because it actually aligned with God's ways and interest. Such were the things that Moses did that made God to have a high regard and respect for him, that He wouldn't have students as Aaron and Miriam, who themselves had performed woefully in their own tests which God gave to them, joke with him, because God consequently saw Moses as Himself, being a man who was walking in accordance with His ways and instructions more than such ones.

Something similar happened with Abraham in the instance of Sodom and Gomorrah, as God was pleased to hear Abraham speak and pray in accordance to His Will and what He had taught him, hence why God was happy to wait to hear and answer all that His student had to ask, to see how much he'd learnt and also to put him through anything he couldn't understand.

Even in the beginning, despite God knowing that Adam had already sinned and eaten of the forbidden fruit, and hence failed God's test, God still wanted to hear and see if Adam had learnt anything from his disobedience, and if he would humble himself and repent, so that He would forgive him and make the punishment for his failure less severe. But Adam proved to be a very bad and the worst kind of student, who despite failing the test God gave to him, was still claiming right and trying to put the blame of his failure on someone else, instead of repenting and asking God for forgiveness. So God had no choice but to make Adam get the full reward or punishment for the woeful way he performed in His test.

Therefore it takes the understanding the ways of God to be able to rightly interpret God's actions and reactions in His conversations with His creation.

God bless.

Bachelorette:
Can a clay advice the porter?

orisa37:
Prayer is ADVICE in This Context. Yes. When you PRAY RIGHTLY, GOD WILL ANSWER YOU POSITIVELY..

REPENTANCE IS PRAYER TOO. When you genuinely repent, God will change His Mind to favour you.

PRAYER WITHOUT FURTHER SINNING, IS YOUR ANSWER.

tctrills:

The scripture wrote, in James 1.8
he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
God is not double-minded. He does not change.
As a perfect being, there is no shadow of turning in him.
It shouldn't take Moses to make him realize and keep his promise to Isreal

ChiefSosa:

I got you, bro! But, I don't consider God to be double-minded, a word like 'indecisive' would've been better and more understandable! Meaning: God has/had several options regarding matters.

tctrills:

When you say rememberin God his promise, dies God forget his promise? Does he need to be remained? Would God break his promise if we don't remain hum?

13 Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac and Israel, to whom you swore by your own self: ‘I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance forever.’ ”

14 Then the Lord relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened.
Exodus 32:13‭-‬14 NIV

tctrills:

To understand you better, you are saying this was all a test, God wasn't really angry and he actually did not want to destroy Israel?
I could agree with you but then Exodus 32.14
Then the Lord relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened.
The keyword there is relented. Some translation's use repented.
If this was only a test, then verse 14 is wrong

jesusjnr2020:
I never said God wasn't angry with Israel or that He didn't want to destroy Israel. I spoke of His conversation with Moses being a test. I spake of Moses praying according to the Will of God and teaching of God and hence passing the test.

God Will for man is that no one perishes, but that all men come to repentance, so the prayer of Moses was according to the Will of God, hence Moses passing the test by praying according to God's Will and God heeding his prayer. So the Lord relenting, is in accordance with His Will which Moses' prayer aligned with, not that Moses was advising God as you misinterpret.

I hope you can comprehend it better now.

Ayo081:


He doesn't. But our rebellion will attract his anger. However, when we remind of his words, he will forgive us.



Read Exodus 32 and 1 Kings 11. There more references too.