OtemAtum:
The power of Coincidence is a natural power. It is not a power you and I possess. It is like asking me how the power of nature works.

You're still coming up with the same thing which doesn't explain anything. Let me paraphrase your reply below so you understand what I mean.

"The power of abracadabra is a natural power.It is not a power you and I possess. It is like asking me how the power of nature works".

Hope you can see what you're doing?

If you can't understand how exactly a power works or know anything about it, why use it to explain an occurrence that defies logic and be so sure of it?

Don't you think you're doing the god of the gaps by imagining something as a cause of an occurrence you don't understand or know why it happens?

Maybe you don't know the meaning of the word coincidence or you have a different meaning of your own.

Please define the word coincidence in your next reply so I know we are on the same page

triplechoice:


You're still coming up with the same thing which doesn't explain anything. Let me paraphrase your reply below so you understand what I mean.

"The power of abracadabra is a natural power.It is not a power you and I possess. It is like asking me how the power of nature works".

Hope you can see what you're doing?

If you can't understand how exactly a power works or know anything about it, why use it to explain an occurrence that defies logic and be so sure of it?

Don't you think you're doing the god of the gaps by imagining something as a cause of an occurrence you don't understand or know why it happens?

Maybe you don't know the meaning of the word coincidence or you have a different meaning of your own.

Please define the word coincidence in your next reply so I know we are on the same page

If you don't understand, then go and research on google for the meaning of Coincidence. I am not an English teacher.

OtemAtum:
If you don't understand, then go and research on google for the meaning of Coincidence. I am not an English teacher.

Then you don't know the meaning of the word coincidence.

Coincidence is non causal

It is not something that caused something neither does it have any power.

When people used the word , coincidence, they used it to mean something that happens by chance or accident

Honestly , the reason I am engaging you on this is simply because you're contradicting what you wrote in your book.

The story of lawumi and the covered pot in
UFOS explains the power inherent in belief as the reason for certain miraculous occurrence.

So why this?

Hope you have not forgotten what you compiled?

triplechoice:


Then you don't know the meaning of the word coincidence.

Coincidence is non causal

It is not something that caused something neither does it have any power.

When people used the word , coincidence, they used it to mean something that happens by chance or accident

Honestly , the reason I am engaging you on this is simply because you're contradicting what you wrote in your book.

The story of lawumi and the covered pot in
UFOS explains the power inherent in belief as the reason for certain miraculous occurrence.

So why this?

Hope you have not forgotten what you compiled?

You didn't see read the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY. If you did, you won't submerge yourself in the philosophy of anyone on earth to the extent of saying that the story of Someone explained the reason for something. The story of Luwabi is written by Luwabi and it is not supposed to explain 100% life occurrences. Also the belief of Luwabi and the belief of Nemonis in the same book of Universal History are not supposed to go along with each other because the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY is not a book that is fighting towards humanity holding on to a particular belief, but it is a book which only gives life occurrences as they happened.

OtemAtum:


You didn't see read the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY. If you did, you won't submerge yourself in the philosophy of anyone on earth to the extent of saying that the story of Someone explained the reason for something. The story of Luwabi is written by Luwabi and it is not supposed to explain 100% life occurrences. Also the belief of Luwabi and the belief of Nemonis in the same book of Universal History are not supposed to go along with each other because the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY is not a book that is fighting towards humanity holding on to a particular belief, but it is a book which only gives life occurrences as they happened.

Several times in the past you have used that same story as explanation .

What ever you say, there is nothing like the power of coincidence.

Coincidence has no power. It is non causal.

triplechoice:


Several times in the past you have used that same story as explanation .

What ever you say, there is nothing like the power of coincidence.

Coincidence has no power. It is non causal.

I don't think Otem said the power of coincidence is causal. It appears you've not read his book because he gave a detailed explanation there.

Coincidences happen a lot in our daily activities. It's just a natural phenomenon, which is random, not the cause of the occurrences themselves.

Here's an excerpt from the book explaining how coincidences work as narrated by Atum, the chief source of the content of the book:

"I began to think of studying the wishes of the homos. I made a device to detect waves of wishes.

Then I saw the waves of my wishes as they travelled away from me. They had different colours.

The waves had two strange colours which are not among the five hundred different types of basic colours we used to know.

I named the colours Duito and Jibret. The colours diffused into space at a very fast rate.

Wishes waves travel to locate
the waves which Urim, the universal consciousness of wishes radiates.

Most of the time, the waves sent by an individual die off before making contact with the waves raditated by Urim.

When the wishes sent out by an individual meets the the waves of Urim, the wishes become granted. This is called coincidence. I studied the power of coincidence for twelve years.

I also saw that only very strong wishes have a chance of coinciding with the waves of Urim. I made a device to study the intensities of wishes.

I discovered also that wishes which had coincided with the waves of urims may take long to become a reality.

They may even take as long as a millennium or even a billion years to come to pass even after coinciding with the waves of Urim.

I also discovered that almost all the wish-waves of the universe did not stay long enough to coincide with the waves of Urim.

I sent two wish-waves to the universe and tracked the waves with my devices.

The first wish was to make Aferk become free from mind slavery. The second was to turn all my siblings who have bad intentions for the homos into good gods.

I monitored the two wave￾wishes. The first one coincided with the wave of Urim after five years, but the other wave faded off after seven years without
coinciding with the wave of Urim.

I also discovered how wish￾waves cancelled out themselves. I saw that almost ninety-nine out of a hundred waves sent into the universe cancelled out each other. " — Book of Universal History, pg. 1041

You may get the book from the author to learn more. " Homos" means humans as the narrator (Atum) is a creator of early humans and animals on this planet, according to the literature.

This is one of the many parts of the book that are so profound and great that I can't just regard the literature as a work of fiction.

The entities (higher beings or gods according to religious people) sending these revelations to Otem look so advanced and have discovered and measured thousands of different types of waves that today's scientists are yet to discover, including consciousness (soul), which is also a kind of wave.

A001:

I don't think Otem said the power of coincidence is causal. It appears you've not read his book because he gave a detailed explanation there.

Coincidences happen a lot in our daily activities. It's just a natural phenomenon, which is random, not the cause of the occurrences themselves.

Here's an excerpt from the book explaining how coincidences work as narrated by Atum, the chief source of the content of the book:

"I began to think of studying the wishes of the homos. I made a device to detect waves of wishes.

Then I saw the waves of my wishes as they travelled away from me. They had different colours.

The waves had two strange colours which are not among the five hundred different types of basic colours we used to know.

I named the colours Duito and Jibret. The colours diffused into space at a very fast rate.

Wishes waves travel to locate
the waves which Urim, the universal consciousness of wishes radiates.

Most of the time, the waves sent by an individual die off before making contact with the waves raditated by Urim.

When the wishes sent out by an individual meets the the waves of Urim, the wishes become granted. This is called coincidence. I studied the power of coincidence for twelve years.

I also saw that only very strong wishes have a chance of coinciding with the waves of Urim. I made a device to study the intensities of wishes.

I discovered also that wishes which had coincided with the waves of urims may take long to become a reality.

They may even take as long as a millennium or even a billion years to come to pass even after coinciding with the waves of Urim.

I also discovered that almost all the wish-waves of the universe did not stay long enough to coincide with the waves of Urim.

I sent two wish-waves to the universe and tracked the waves with my devices.

The first wish was to make Aferk become free from mind slavery. The second was to turn all my siblings who have bad intentions for the homos into good gods.

I monitored the two wave￾wishes. The first one coincided with the wave of Urim after five years, but the other wave faded off after seven years without
coinciding with the wave of Urim.

I also discovered how wish￾waves cancelled out themselves. I saw that almost ninety-nine out of a hundred waves sent into the universe cancelled out each other. " — Book of Universal History, pg. 1041

You may get the book from the author to learn more. " Homos" means humans as the narrator (Atum) is a creator of early humans and animals on this planet, according to the literature.

This is one of the many parts of the book that are so profound and great that I can't just regard the literature as a work of fiction.

The entities (higher beings or gods according to religious people) sending these revelations to Otem look so advanced and have discovered and measured thousands of different types of waves that today's scientists are yet to discover, including consciousness (soul), which is also a kind of waves.

Otem talked about the power of coincidence.

What is the meaning of power?

Do you know?

triplechoice:


Otem talked about the power of coincidence.

What is the meaning of power?

Do you know?

I don't know the power personally. But I observe coincidence in my daily activities.

According to Otem, Urim or the Universal Consciousness of Wishes, mentioned in the excerpt, is responsible for the power of coincidence.

Urim is an aspect of God Almighty, which according to him is the Total of Existence or a great source of energy, just like all gods and goddesses worshipped in religions, humans, animals, microbes, etc. are all aspects of God as defined in the Otemic or Atomic philosophy.

My own view about God is agnostic.

A001:

I don't know the power personally. But I observe coincidence in my daily activities.

According to Otem, Urim or the Universal Consciousness of Wishes, mentioned in the excerpt, is responsible for the power of coincidence.

Urim is an aspect of God Almighty, which according to him is the Total of Existence or a great source of energy, just like all gods and goddesses worshipped in religions, humans, animals, microbes, etc. are all aspects of God as defined in the Otemic or Atomic philosophy.

My own view about God is agnostic.

Please define the word coincidence

triplechoice:


Please define the word coincidence

From a standard dictionary, coincidence is "the fact of corresponding in nature or in time of occurrence."

A common example of coincidences is when you wish to get two specific figures on two dice in a game of Ludo to defeat your opponent, say your wish (or just think about it), and the wish (the figures) manifests.

Another common example is when there's a power outage, and you say a wish or pray for power supply to be restored and your room lights up immediately.

Those are coincidental, random or stochastic events.

Nothing spiritual or supernatural. It's just natural or physical.

A001:

From a standard dictionary, coincidence is "the fact of corresponding in nature or in time of occurrence."

A common example of coincidences is when you wish to get two specific figures on two dice in a game of Ludo to defeat your opponent, say your wish (or just think about it), and the wish (the figures) manifests.

Another common example is when there's a power outage, and you say a wish or pray for power supply to be restored and your room lights up immediately.

Those are coincidental, random or stochastic events.

Nothing spiritual or supernatural. It's just natural or physical.

I asked for a Simple definition of the word coincidence.

Please define it for me so I know we have the same understanding of it.

I don't need your explanation at this stage

triplechoice:


I asked for a Simple defination of the word coincidence.

Please define it for me so I know we have the same understanding of it.

I don't need your explanation at this stage

I gave you a simple and clear definition from the dictionary. Didn't you see it?

A001:

I gave you a simple and clear definition from the dictionary. Didn't you see it?

So how does corresponding in nature means causative

triplechoice:


So how does corresponding in nature means causative

Personally, I don't know.

But Otem gave a plausible explanation or model that's based on the concept of interference in Physics. He says Urim (defined above) is an aspect or part of nature, responsible for causality as explained in the excerpt above.

(He explained how it works in the book. I don't have the time to go into the details here.)

Just like each of the higher beings or gods and goddesses of religions is an aspect of nature responsible for different physical manifestations on earth.

Gaia is a goddess or an aspect of nature that's the consciousness of planet Earth and she's also called Mother Earth, according to Otem.

Otem claims he's an aspect of nature responsible for compiling unlimited histories of the universe from billions of years back.

He gave further details how the power of coincidence via Urim works physically and scientifically in the book.

While I see the model as a great one and workable, I honestly don't understand the whole concept unless I see or discover this Urim he talked about.

Seeing is believing.

A001:

Personally, I don't know.

But Otem gave a plausible explanation or model that's based on the concept of interference in Physics. He says Urim (defined above) is an aspect or part of nature, responsible for causality as explained in the excerpt above.

(He explained how it works in the book. I don't have the time to go into the details here.)

Just like each of the higher beings or gods and goddesses of religions is an aspect of nature responsible for different physical manifestations on earth.

Gaia is a goddess or an aspect of nature that's the consciousness of planet Earth and she's also called Mother Earth, according to Otem.

Otem claims he's an aspect of nature responsible for compiling unlimited histories of the universe from billions of years back.

He gave further details how the power of coincidence via Urim works physically and scientifically in the book.

While I see the model as a great one and workable, I honestly don't understand the whole concept unless I see or discover this Urim he talked about.

Seeing is believing.

When you assume someone is of superior intelligence or is infallible you're bound to defend anything they say even when it doesn't make any sense.

Nobody knows it all. Anyone at some point can make a mistake or come up with something that he or she thinks is true.. I am no exception. I make mistakes too.

If you regard anyone as infallible or inspired by god ,you stand the risk of being misled.

You have to question everything you're told or read.

This is not to disparage Otem in anyway . His book has stories which teaches some salient truth about life. And that is a fact

I am amazed by what he has put up.

But hey, one just cannot swallow everything

I insist there's nothing like the power of coincidence.
Otem has simply made that up ..

Coincidence simply means an occurrence with no apparent cause.

But he is telling us that coincidence has power to cause something

triplechoice:


When you assume someone is of superior intelligence or is infallible you're bound to defend anything they say even when it doesn't make any sense.

Nobody knows it all. Anyone at some point can make a mistake or come up with something that he or she thinks is true.. I am no exception. I make mistakes too.

If you regard anyone has infallible or inspired by god ,you stand the risk of being misled.

You have to question everything you're told or read.

This is not to disparage Otem in anyway . His book has stories which teaches some salient truth about life. And that is a fact

I am amazed by what he has put up.

But hey, one just cannot swallow everything

I insist there's nothing like the power of coincidence.
Otem has simply made that up ..

Coincidence simply means an occurrence with no apparent cause.

But he is telling us that coincidence has power to cause something

Maybe you should read the post you quoted again. I stated clearly I don't have a definitive answer to how coincidence works.

It's better you put "with no known apparent cause" in the highlighted definition above because all occurrences, even the seemingly random ones, have a cause or a chain of causes, but humans, due to our limited perception and brain power, don't know the exact causes most times.

Otem's views about many things have a lot of depth.

I'm willing to give his explanation of how coincidence works in nature a benefit of doubt because of the sources sending the histories, especially because of Atum and his impact on ancient Egyptians toward the construction of the pyramids.

Besides, consciousness isn't a subject matter that's well covered or researched about in the contemporary science. The field is a nascent one.

There are still many fundamental things about nature scientists are yet to study or discover, which the ancients or the humanoids (gods and goddesses) such as Olohun, Chukwu, Atum, Allah, Jehovah, and thousands of others worshipped know.

So I consider Otem's model an interesting and plausible one.

But the model, like every other claim or work, is subject to constant questioning, scrutiny, and examination.

I never told you to take anything anyone says whether they claim to be a god or higher being as a statement of fact without seeing evidence in support of the claim or model.

A001:

Maybe you should read the post you quoted again. I stated clearly I don't have a definitive answer to how coincidence works.

It's better you put "with no known apparent cause" in the highlighted definition above because all occurrences, even the seemingly random ones, have a cause or a chain of causes, but humans, due to our limited perception and brain power, don't know the exact causes most times.

Otem's views about many things have a lot of depth.

I'm willing to give his explanation of how coincidence works in nature a benefit of doubt because of the sources sending the histories, especially because of Atum and his impact on ancient Egyptians toward the construction of the pyramids.

Besides, consciousness isn't a subject matter that's well covered or researched about in the contemporary science. The field is a nascent one.

There are still many fundamental things about nature scientists are yet to study or discover, which the ancients or the humanoids (gods and goddesses) such as Olohun, Chukwu, Atum, Allah, Jehovah, and thousands of others worshipped know.

So I consider Otem's model an interesting and plausible one.

But the model, like every other claim or work, is subject to constant questioning, scrutiny, and examination.

I never told you to take anything anyone says whether they claim to be a god or higher being as a statement of fact without seeing evidence in support of the claim or model.

He never said you told him anything


Stop diverting



Your talent is name-calling



Your reply to Triplechoice is largely a lie

triplechoice:


When you assume someone is of superior intelligence or is infallible you're bound to defend anything they say even when it doesn't make any sense.

Nobody knows it all. Anyone at some point can make a mistake or come up with something that he or she thinks is true.. I am no exception. I make mistakes too.

If you regard anyone as infallible or inspired by god ,you stand the risk of being misled.

You have to question everything you're told or read.

This is not to disparage Otem in anyway . His book has stories which teaches some salient truth about life. And that is a fact

I am amazed by what he has put up.

But hey, one just cannot swallow everything

I insist there's nothing like the power of coincidence.
Otem has simply made that up ..

Coincidence simply means an occurrence with no apparent cause.

But he is telling us that coincidence has power to cause something

Please

Forget that guy who claims knowledge and understanding in vain

I have been trying to reach you since you promised to reach out to me

No time to reply a mentally unstable kid.

A001:
No time to reply a mentally unstable kid.

You just replied



Keep deceiving yourself

HellVictorinho:



Please

Forget that guy who claims knowledge and understanding in vain

I have been trying to reach you since you promised to reach out to me

It is not something I want to annouce publicly but I believe you know why. I already helped once but later realise that it won't be for your greater good if I continue.


You are in a position to help yourself far better than I anyone can but you don't know it. This is true and I truly mean it.

Look for anything to do within your current location . It doesn't matter the kind of Job. It will help to increase your self esteem and stand you in better stead to achieve your dreams or make your life a success

I know this is a faceless forum, but it is embarrassing seeing you constantly begging for handouts from people you can do better than. I think a lot of people here, from what I have observed, don't regard you much ,hence they refuse to help

You can help yourself.

You have what it takes. Without a university education ,you write very well. You writings are logical, incisive and calculative. I mean your writing style and not the content.
If you can add some creativity or learn creative writing,, it possible to write books you can sell on Amazon or elsewhere that would profit you and help uplift yourself from your current level.
Please think about this.

I may contact you later but not a guarantee I would.

You can help yourself. I do mean sincerely mean it

triplechoice:


It is not something I want to annouce publicly but I believe you know why. I already helped once but later realise that it won't be for your greater good if I continue.


You are in a position to help yourself far better than I anyone can but you don't know it. This is true and I truly mean it.

Look for anything to do within your current location . It doesn't matter the kind of Job. It will help to increase your self esteem and stand you in better stead to achieve your dreams or make your life a success

I know this is a faceless forum, but it is embarrassing seeing you constantly begging for handouts from people you can do better than. I think a lot of people here, from what I have observed, don't regard you much ,hence they refuse to help

You can help yourself.

You have what it takes. Without a university education ,you write very well. You writings are logical, incisive and calculative. I mean your writing style and not the content.
If you can add some creativity or learn creative writing,, it possible to write books you can sell on Amazon or elsewhere that would profit you and help uplift yourself from your current level.
Please think about this.

I may contact you later but not a guarantee I would.

You can help yourself. I do mean sincerely mean it

Well,

If you can determine how I can join Amazon,

I will be grateful.

HellVictorinho:



Well,

If you can determine how I can join Amazon,

I will be grateful.

I honestly cannot tell you how exactly to go about it for now. But there are some people on this forum who can guide you better.

Try the literature section of this forum. I believe you can find help from those who are already into it . You can also do a google research.

It is something I want to venture into myself later but not started due to other engagements.

This can help
https://www.nairaland.com/5272773/how-invest-amazon-kindle-publishing

triplechoice:


I honestly cannot tell you how exactly to go about it for now. But there are some people on this forum who can guide you better.

Try the literature section of this forum. I believe you can find help from those who are already into it . You can also do a google research.

It is something I want to venture into myself later but not started due to other engagements.

This can help
https://www.nairaland.com/5272773/how-invest-amazon-kindle-publishing

It involves money I can't afford


Well

I am yet to receive my wages for this month

The school where I work doesn't pay early

Perhaps next week Monday -Friday


Can you help me with anything that I can manage for now?

HellVictorinho:



It involves money I can't afford


Well

I am yet to receive my wages for this month

The school where I work doesn't pay early

Perhaps next week Monday -Friday


Can you help me with anything that I can manage for now?

The link I shared was just to enlightened you on what it's required .

You don't need to pay anything to anyone before getting started There are free resources on the net and other people who can help for free.

You just need to search. Don't allow the thoughts of no money limit you.

Money is an illusion. Aoart from physical cash,there are other means by which you get what you want.

What you require right now is the will to start.

Help will surely come

triplechoice:


The link I shared was just to enlightened you on what it's required .

You don't need to pay anything to anyone before getting started There are free resources on the net and other people who can help for free.

You just need to search. Don't allow the thoughts of no money limit you.

Money is an illusion. Aoart from physical cash,there are other means by which you get what you want.

What you require right now is the will to start.

Help will surely come

Can you help me with any amount of money?



I have heard you.

HellVictorinho:





Can you help me with any amount of money?



I have heard you.

you really got me there

Ahasco:


you really got me there

You don't know the kinds of bastards I have met here


Triplechoice has been a different person

He has been humble too



Unlike some proud bastards who twist and turn your statements upside down


I never meant to upset Triplechoice





But some bastards should be dead


No court in the world can settle these things

triplechoice:


Several times in the past you have used that same story as explanation .

What ever you say, there is nothing like the power of coincidence.

Coincidence has no power. It is non causal.

There is nothing on Earth that doesn't have power. Even a leaf hanging up on a tree has potential energy. If the leaf start to fall, then you can measure its power with physics. It also contains Chemical power in chemistry. When coincidence makes you think that you have achieved things by your own power, then that's the power of coincidence. Upon what luck do you think herbalists and pastors ride? Upon the power of coincidence of course. Now back to Luwabi and myself using his quote, the op was assuming Luwabi as the authority, probably because I used his quote somewhere, but I was letting him know that using his quote doesn't mean that he is an authority. I may decide to use the quote of Abraham Lincoln, it doesn't mean that I buy 100% into his philosophy. It may just be that I only agree to 1% of his philosophy and I can actually quote that 1% as many times as I like.

@TripleChoice, below is the definition of POWER. Now can you tell me if this power is not what pastors, alfas and herbalists ride on? I mean sometimes, pastors, alfas and herbalists say some things and it happened by coincidence. Because of this coincidences, they influence their followers and make then believe that they did it by their own powers(check the second definition of power in the dictionary below). Now tell me if there is no power of coincidence. Concerning the results below, assuming somebody had said perchance that Liverpool and Chelsea will have similar results and it happened so, if the person is a pastor, Alfa, imam or herbalists, don't you think he would have influenced the minds of his followers by the power of coincidence? That's what I am talking about.

OtemAtum:
There is nothing on Earth that doesn't have power. Even a leaf hanging up on a tree has potential energy. If the leaf start to fall, then you can measure its power with physics. It also contains Chemical power in chemistry. When coincidence makes you think that you have achieved things by your own power, then that's the power of coincidence. Upon what luck do you think herbalists and pastors ride? Upon the power of coincidence of course. Now back to Luwabi and myself using his quote, the op was assuming Luwabi as the authority, probably because I used his quote somewhere, but I was letting him know that using his quote doesn't mean that he is an authority. I may decide to use the quote of Abraham Lincoln, it doesn't mean that I buy 100% into his philosophy. It may just be that I only agree to 1% of his philosophy and I can actually quote that 1% as many times as I like.

It is true that everything on earth has energy but it is not true that mere words which are not tangible materials have energy.

The word coincidence merely represent an abstract idea. It is not the same with the word , leaf , which is used to name a visible object in nature.
While we can measure for the power of falling leaf which we can see we can't do so for coincidence because it merely represents an abstract idea which has no one to one correspondence with any physical object in nature.

You don't seem to have a full understanding of the word coincidence and it is a problem.

Coincidence does not cause anything. The word is only use when we can't find any apparent cause for any strange happenings or pattern in nature.

triplechoice:



It is true that everything on earth has energy but it is not true that mere words which are not tangible materials have energy.

The word coincidence merely represent an abstract idea. It is not the same with the word , leaf , which is used to name a visible object in nature.
While we can measure for the power of falling leaf which we can see we can't do so for coincidence because it merely represents an abstract idea which has no one to one correspondence with any physical object in nature.

You don't seem to have a full understanding of the word coincidence and it is a problem.

Coincidence does not cause anything. The word is only use when we can't find any apparent cause for any strange happenings or pattern in nature.

If mere words don't have power, what happen to hypnotism, religious texts used to make people submissive, placebo, etc? There's nothing that doesn't have potential power, no matter how little they could be.