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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:56pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Do you realize that this Jota is actually a left winger and logically should replace Mane. But when a left winger is replacing a 9 in a team that should tell you that Firmino was only endured that long because there was no other option
You talk as if Jota is a prolific goal scorer like that. For tactical reasons either of Jota or Firmino can be call upon by Klopp.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:57pm On Oct 04, 2021
Jodera:
Klopp is a competitive and ambitious coach, he's not like Wenger that will keep misfiring striker like giroud without competition esp wen he's dropping stinkers.
The question you'll ask is
1... Why didn't klopp buy a striker(or attacker) when they lost cl 2018?
2... Why didn't he buy an attacker wen he narrowly lost to man city with one point in 2019?
3... Entering 2020 wen they need the league, why didn't he buy another striker if firmino was so useless.

Mind you, firmino isn't a big money signing that the issue of "he'll need to justify his money" will be used. Also he is benching strikers in sturridge and origi. It's not like Liverpool doesn't have money that you'll say it's lack of money.


See the name of strikers Firmino is benching. Origi and Sturridge Can you tell everyone here the clubs Sturridge played for after leaving Liverpool? That will tell you the reason Klopp kept using Firmino, the moment a semi decent player surfaced in jota, a left winger sef, Firmino quickly found his calling on the bench

Klopp is ambitious yet he endured Lovren and Karius for many seasons. That is how he endured Firmino until he found a decent option

Matip like Jota that benched that benched Lovren was not even a super defender or anything but he immediately dumped Lovren on the bench same reason Jota a left winger dumped Firmino No look, No goals on the bench
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:57pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


The number of champions league goals already rate him ahead of Hidden Hazard
Thats not what they use in rating players bro. Hazard has done more individually than Gnabry.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:57pm On Oct 04, 2021
hensben:
You talk as if Jota is a prolific goal scorer like that. For tactical reasons either of Jota or Firmino can be call upon by Klopp.

If a non prolific scorer an above average left winger who couldnt even bench Raul Jimenez is now benchng Firmino then that temms the whole story of the uselessness of Firmino

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:58pm On Oct 04, 2021
hensben:
Thats not what they use in rating players bro. Hazard has done more individually than Gnabry.

Is scoring CL goals not done individually? Hazard at almost 31 has 4 CL goals from open play after playing for Chelsea Madrid and Lille

A collossal failure

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 3:59pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Which role did he interpret? The part of being barren. Firmino a striker that went almost a whole year without a goal at Anfield before covid and you are here blaming post covid

See the attached below, see the date that was before COVID and Firmino was already celebrating 324days without a goal at Anfield

No wonder Jota an above average left winger sharply sent him to the bench

You are an Arsenal fan. Do you hope your number 9 goals a whole year without a home goal?
before I proceed, can I see the link to that story lemme read it up?
Thanks
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:00pm On Oct 04, 2021
Jodera:
firmino is a striker that his skillset flourished under klopp. If you can call him a system player in that striker role under klopp, I might agree with you, but saying he's useless to Liverpool's success or he's an activity former is pure false.


That was how Lovren and Karius skillset too flourished under Klopp until they were bundled out

That was how Grosskreutz and Schmelzer also flourished under Klopp
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 4:01pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


If a non prolific scorer an above average left winger who couldnt even bench Raul Jimenez is now benchng Firmino then that temms the whole story of the uselessness of Firmino
The league just started and Jota is new to the squad so Klopp is just being psychological here by playing him to ginger Firmino. By end of the season Firmino will still get more appearance than him, just watch and see. Firmino is more useful than him in liverpool set up.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 4:02pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Giroud was on the field when France lost to Switzerland
Giroud was so important to Chelsea that he was bundled out immediately
Giroud was so important to France that they benched him immediately

Giroud has won his world cup on the field...when will your polish fraud do the same??... lewandoski the choker
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:03pm On Oct 04, 2021
Jodera:
before I proceed, can I see the link to that story lemme read it up?
Thanks

Its the Liverpool site and club official sites praise every player and find ways to get positives for the player. Surely Liverpool site will be praisiring Karius even when its obvious he was a disaster

At least you can see that the post covid excuse is null and void cos his uselessness started way before covid
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:03pm On Oct 04, 2021
CAPdan21:

Giroud has won his world cup on the field...when will your polish fraud do the same??... lewandoski the choker

Giroud the only striker to go to a world cup and finish with 0 shot on target in 7 games
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 4:03pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Is scoring CL goals not done individually? Hazard at almost 31 has 4 CL goals from open play after playing for Chelsea Madrid and Lille

A collossal failure
Hazard proved himself in the most competitive league, ucl is not the only competition.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 4:04pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


See the name of strikers Firmino is benching. Origi and Sturridge Can you tell everyone here the clubs Sturridge played for after leaving Liverpool? That will tell you the reason Klopp kept using Firmino, the moment a semi decent player surfaced in jota, a left winger sef, Firmino quickly found his calling on the bench

Klopp is ambitious yet he endured Lovren and Karius for many seasons. That is how he endured Firmino until he found a decent option

Matip like Jota that benched that benched Lovren was not even a super defender or anything but he immediately dumped Lovren on the bench same reason Jota a left winger dumped Firmino No look, No goals on the bench
it's same thing we're saying na. If firmino is so useless for Liverpool like sturridge and origi, do you think klopp will wait up to 3 years to replace him? Do you think they'll be able to get up to 90+ points and follow man city bumper to bumper all those years with one useless player upfront?
We're talking about league here not even knockout, one-off competition o

How many season did he endure karius? Just 1 season plus

Lovren that because of him he was pursuing van dijk up and down. Immediately van dijk came, it was van dijk and matip that was pairing
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 4:05pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Giroud was on the field when France lost to Switzerland
Giroud was so important to Chelsea that he was bundled out immediately
Giroud was so important to France that they benched him immediately

Same way they bundled out Boateng out of Bayern Munich.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 4:05pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Its the Liverpool site and club official sites praise every player and find ways to get positives for the player. Surely Liverpool site will be praisiring Karius even when its obvious he was a disaster
Just give me the link lemme read up, then I can answer you.
I don't think that will be hard for you na
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 4:06pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Giroud the only striker to go to a world cup and finish with 0 shot on target in 7 games
Lewandoski the choker who led his team to disgrace in successive international tournaments...na to bully German farmers na dat one sabi
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:06pm On Oct 04, 2021
Jodera:
it's same thing we're saying na. If firmino is so useless for Liverpool like sturridge and origi, do you think klopp will wait up to 3 years to replace him? Do you think they'll be able to get up to 90+ points and follow man city bumper to bumper all those years with one useless player upfront?
We're talking about league here not even knockout, one-off competition o

Man city got 100points with Fabian Delph. Where is Fabian Delph today?

How long did Klopp wait to replace Lovren

Jota was probably bought to be a replacement for Mane but na Firmino even fall shows how useless he is
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:07pm On Oct 04, 2021
CAPdan21:

Lewandoski the choker who led his team to disgrace in successive international tournaments...na to bully German farmers na dat one sabi

Those German farmers include your team. Lewandowski played Chelsea and scored/assisted 7 goals in 180mins. You are even worse than farmers

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:08pm On Oct 04, 2021
hensben:
Same way they bundled out Boateng out of Bayern Munich.

Boateng in his prime won the world cup on the field, won the CL on the field as a main player for both teams

Mention any of your favourite players who can say the same.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 4:08pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Man city got 100points with Fabian Delph. Where is Fabian Delph today?

How long did Klopp wait to replace Lovren

Jota was probably bought to be a replacement for Mane but na Firmino even fall shows how useless he is
This is false

Jota was bought cos he can play across the front 3 and was bought for squad depth cos Origi can't play across the front 3
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 4:11pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Those German farmers include your team. Lewandowski played Chelsea and scored/assisted 7 goals in 180mins. You are even worse than farmers
what happened when they met??... lewandoski d flop could not score a single goal against a team playing fabinho at CB...shame
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 4:11pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Boateng in his prime won the world cup on the field, won the CL on the field as a main player for both teams

Mention any of your favourite players who can say the same.
By your take Giroud won World Cup on the pitch. Is that how to determine a club legend. Boateng can’t be called Bayern legend, not to talk of world.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 4:13pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Man city got 100points with Fabian Delph. Where is Fabian Delph today?

How long did Klopp wait to replace Lovren

Jota was probably bought to be a replacement for Mane but na Firmino even fall shows how useless he is
He wasn’t bought to replace any but as rotation which he is doing ok so far.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:14pm On Oct 04, 2021
Jodera:
This is false

Jota was bought cos he can play across the front 3 and was bought for squad depth cos Origi can't play across the front 3

Jota who was mainly a left winger was bought to do what? Who does a left winger replace

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:15pm On Oct 04, 2021
hensben:
By your take Giroud won World Cup on the pitch. Is that how to determine a club legend. Boateng can’t be called Bayern legend, not to talk of world.

The goalpost too was on the field in the world cup win and has as much effect as Giroud

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 4:15pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Man city got 100points with Fabian Delph. Where is Fabian Delph today?

How long did Klopp wait to replace Lovren

Jota was probably bought to be a replacement for Mane but na Firmino even fall shows how useless he is
Was Delph an attacker. It’s just like saying Contrao made 100 points for Mourhino at Madrid.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:15pm On Oct 04, 2021
CAPdan21:

what happened when they met??... lewandoski d flop could not score a single goal against a team playing fabinho at CB...shame

When who met? This was what Leandowski did vs your Chelsea team

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 4:16pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Man city got 100points with Fabian Delph. Where is Fabian Delph today?

How long did Klopp wait to replace Lovren

Jota was probably bought to be a replacement for Mane but na Firmino even fall shows how useless he is
Jota bought to replace mane.??...Egbon Dayo u nor know ball
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 4:17pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Jota who was mainly a left winger was bought to do what? Who does a left winger replace
This is what they perceived it will happen since it was speculated then that Mane is going to Real Madrid.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:17pm On Oct 04, 2021
hensben:
Was Delph an attacker. It’s just like saying Contrao made 100 points for Mourhino at Madrid.

Is it only attackers that play football? Firmino was just like Delph very useless

This was the season Liverpool made 99points yet their striker went 324days without a home goal

Mane Salah were scoring about 20 goals while the useless Firmino was dropping 9

I hope Chelsea sells Lukaku and buy Firmino so you can be happy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:18pm On Oct 04, 2021
CAPdan21:

Jota bought to replace mane.??...Egbon Dayo u nor know ball

Steve Warnock also does not know ball

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 4:18pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:

When who met? This was what Leandowski did vs your Chelsea team
who said I'm a Chelsea fan..what Happened when firmino met Lewandoski??

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