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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 4:18pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Is it only attackers that play football? Firmino was just like Delph very useless

This was the season Liverpool made 99points yet their striker went 324days without a home goal

Mane Salah were scoring about 20 goals while the useless Firmino was dropping 9

I hope Chelsea sells Lukaku and buy Firmino so you can be happy
Firmino wasn’t useless, quit typing trash.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:20pm On Oct 04, 2021
hensben:
This is what they perceived it will happen since it was speculated then that Mane is going to Real Madrid.

When Mane didnt leave, the left winger replaced the Fake 9
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:21pm On Oct 04, 2021
hensben:
Firmino wasn’t useless, quit typing trash.

Will you replace Lukau with Firmino?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 4:22pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Steve Warnock also does not know ball
Two of una nor know ball...na 4 ogbomosho na dem dey buy replacement for a LW in his prime..so who is Salah replacement??

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:22pm On Oct 04, 2021
CAPdan21:

who said I'm a Chelsea fan..what Happened when firmino met Lewandoski??

Firmino scored as many goals as Lewandowski

Both play CL Lewandkski has over 70 goals, How many does Firmino have?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:23pm On Oct 04, 2021
CAPdan21:

Two of una nor know ball...na 4 ogbomosho na dem dey buy replacement for a LW in his prime..so who is Salah replacement??

Salah does not need a replacement since he is delivering

Who is a left winger supposed to replace in a team? Is it a striker?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 4:25pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Which role did he interpret? The part of being barren. Firmino a striker that went almost a whole year without a goal at Anfield before covid and you are here blaming post covid

See the attached below, see the date that was before COVID and Firmino was already celebrating 324days without a goal at Anfield

No wonder Jota an above average left winger sharply sent him to the bench

You are an Arsenal fan. Do you hope your number 9 goals a whole year without a home goal?
So he's been scoring away(and even giving assists during home games to show he's influential) but just because he didn't score at home, na problem. I dunno if scoring at home gives 4points while scoring away gives 3points. Even in that same site, they talked about how he scored the winning goals in semi finals and finals of their CWC in which they won, and how he also scored winning goals in match in which they would have drawn that season all away from home, but to you all that counts for nothing.

I believe you'll hype firmino more if he scores the 4th goal in a 5-0 winning match than scoring a 2-1 winner away from home right?? I'm not a Liverpool fan, but I know which one Liverpool fans will pick

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 4:26pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Firmino scored as many goals as Lewandowski

Both play CL Lewandkski has over 70 goals, How many does Firmino have?
what I know is that firmino and his team disgraced d polish fraud at his home ground.. we saw how your polish fraud was carrying Bayern to mediocrity when d foolish kovac was benching Muller...that fraud should be thanking Muller and Neuer everyday
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:29pm On Oct 04, 2021
Jodera:
So he's been scoring away(and even giving assists during home games to show he's influential) but just because he didn't score at home, na problem. I dunno if scoring at home gives 4points while scoring away gives 3points. Even in that same site, they talked about how he scored the winning goals in semi finals and finals of their CWC in which they won, and how he also scored winning goals in match in which they would have drawn that season all away from home, but to you all that counts for nothing.

I believe you'll hype firmino more if he scores the 4th goal in a 5-0 winning match than scoring a 2-1 winner away from home right?? I'm not a Liverpool fan, but I know which one Liverpool fans will pick

Firmino in 365 days would have played over 25 home matches and went without a goal
If its not an issue, the Liverpool official website will not write about it. Its not like they are saying he didnt score with his right leg or head. No goals in a yr at home

That is why he was quickly replaced. Why are they not replacing Mane?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 4:30pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Salah does not need a replacement since he is delivering

Who is a left winger supposed to replace in a team? Is it a striker?
So na mane nor dey deliver...dem go nack dat your bald head
jota can play across the front line so dat one nor b even argument, he even played
as supporting striker to Jimenez in wolves
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 4:30pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Jota who was mainly a left winger was bought to do what? Who does a left winger replace
Lol... Was there any concrete bid or serious intention from Madrid to buy mane then?
This is why they bought Jota

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:56pm On Oct 04, 2021
CAPdan21:

So na mane nor dey deliver...dem go nack dat your bald head
jota can play across the front line so dat one nor b even argument, he even played
as supporting striker to Jimenez in wolves

Mane was delivering but was rumored to be on his way out and Jota was bought, 1yr later Mane has stayed and the weakest link called Firmino was dropped

Shaqiri and Oxlade can play on the right side but with Salah, frustration led them either to sit on the bench or left the club but Jota tried Mane he couldnt until he found the weak link
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:58pm On Oct 04, 2021
Jodera:
Lol... Was there any concrete bid or serious intention from Madrid to buy mane then?
This is why they bought Jota

Jota is mainly a left sided forward, I am sure he has layed on the left more than any other side. Most attackers in their career would have played all sides but they will have a dominant preferred side

Jota was mainly a left sided player and would naturally have been a Mane replacement but Firmino was the weakest link
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:07pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Jota is mainly a left sided forward, I am sure he has layed on the left more than any other side. Most attackers in their career would have played all sides but they will have a dominant preferred side

Jota was mainly a left sided player and would naturally have been a Mane replacement but Firmino was the weakest link
Liverpool fans knows he was bought as an option for any of the front three. No way was any concrete bid or strong rumours that mane was leaving. Their front three didn't have any replacement and Liverpool shelled out good dough to buy a player who can play all 3 positions instead of 3 different players.
He's started a match wen Salah was on the bench, same also wen Mane was on the bench and also for firmino. This is the first time I'm hearing he's specifically bought for mane replacement
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:15pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Will you replace Lukau with Firmino?

Yes without blinking an eye. First and foremost, Lukaku is not my type of striker, doesn’t mean he is not good.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:15pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


When Mane didnt leave, the left winger replaced the Fake 9
He can play either of the front three.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:16pm On Oct 04, 2021
User09:


Currently, I think the team plays better without Lukaku. Except there's a shift in system by TT or Lukaku improves in certain areas upfront (pressing, movement) we're going to be way too predictable. Plenty times during the games, I thought he needed to move deep or go wide to allow other forward players take up the vacated central spots

He probably needs to sit some games out. At least he provides flexibility for us. He currently has a better chemistry with Timo compared to the others and he has a history of playing 3-5-2 in Inter with Conte

TT certainly has his work cut out for him in terms of synergy upfront. Let's see in December, I expect adjustments to have been made


The only reason why we are going to be too predictable is because of Jorginho,cus everyone is aware of what he is going to do with the ball.He's never going to move forward with the ball or neither is he going to try to beat a press press or pick out his wingback running on the flank so tell me why we aren't going to be too predictable with such a limited player.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:18pm On Oct 04, 2021
Jodera:
Liverpool fans knows he was bought as an option for any of the front three. No way was any concrete bid or strong rumours that mane was leaving. Their front three didn't have any replacement and Liverpool shelled out good dough to buy a player who can play all 3 positions instead of 3 different players.
He's started a match wen Salah was on the bench, same also wen Mane was on the bench and also for firmino. This is the first time I'm hearing he's specifically bought for mane replacement

Liverpool bought Shaqiri who is a right sided player, at the end of the day he left in frustration because the beast on the right side was irreplaceable

Of the front 3 Salah is the most productive and most irreplaceable, If someone offered good money for Mane they would consider but for Firmino no one wants him

When you buy a player who is mainly a left wing player who do you think they are planning to use him for?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:19pm On Oct 04, 2021
hensben:
Yes without blinking an eye. First and foremost, Lukaku is not my type of striker, doesn’t mean he is not good.

Players who deliver are not usually your type of players, You and your citadel proprietor are always attracted to failures like Hazard anyways
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 5:19pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Mane was delivering but was rumored to be on his way out and Jota was bought, 1yr later Mane has stayed and the weakest link called Firmino was dropped

Shaqiri and Oxlade can play on the right side but with Salah, frustration led them either to sit on the bench or left the club but Jota tried Mane he couldnt until he found the weak link
All that is just your headcanon... Liverpool had no intention of selling mane so dat one na wash..when jota first played for Liverpool he came in for firmino not mane so that your explanation nor make sense at all
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:20pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Firmino in 365 days would have played over 25 home matches and went without a goal
If its not an issue, the Liverpool official website will not write about it. Its not like they are saying he didnt score with his right leg or head. No goals in a yr at home

That is why he was quickly replaced. Why are they not replacing Mane?
Your problem is what you always bring as an issue in football is not an issue. You will just be typing anything you think can be use for countering who you are arguing with. It’s very bad behavior.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:20pm On Oct 04, 2021
popizaino:



The only reason why we are going to be too predictable is because of Jorginho,cus everyone is aware of what he is going to do with the ball.He's never going to move forward with the ball or neither is he going to try to beat a press press or pick out his wingback running on the flank so tell me why we aren't going to be too predictable with such a limited player.

On Saturday when Jorginho didnt start how many chances were you creating for your main striker abi na Jorginho dey hold their legs from the bench

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:23pm On Oct 04, 2021
hensben:
Your problem is what you always bring as an issue in football is not an issue. You will just be typing anything you think can be use for countering who you are arguing with. It’s very bad behavior.

For you to know others problem you should know your own problem

Firmino was benched by Jota a player who plainly plays on the left wing, Firmino is the weakest link in Liverpools front line which I have always said years ago but as usual most of you only catch up years later

Same way I told you Hazard will be useless in Spain
Same way I told you that Salah is the greatest African to ever play in the EPL
Same way I told you Lampard was a useless coach and players were not the problem

You did stronghead with all these and are still doing for some but every rational person will see that my views stated years ago come to pass and yours fail
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:28pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Players who deliver are not usually your type of players, You and your citadel proprietor are always attracted to failures like Hazard anyways
So Messi na failure. I was a play maker so I love any footballers that influences games because this is primarily the trait of midfielders. You just type anything to win argument; what scoring away or home to rate players, what is winning team trophies and starting finals to rate Boateng above Terry and Sylva, not be stupidly be that. I always screenshot your opinion and send to my friends in Munich, they always laugh and say you are either trolling or acting airhead to the discussion.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 5:28pm On Oct 04, 2021
hensben:
Yes without blinking an eye. First and foremost, Lukaku is not my type of striker, doesn’t mean he is not good.

What?!

You need to be attested

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:33pm On Oct 04, 2021
Havertz10:
when I used to randomly visit this thread, I didn't like raumdeuter

He was always critical of our players and naturally it annoyed me

Then I listened to his assertions and he actually made a lot of sense most times with his assertions

We aren't both Chelsea fans but I will agree with him 98% of the time meanwhile i'm in disagreement with Chelsea fans 50% of the time

Tribes and clans are overrated, an aboki can share more in values with an igbo man than his own brother, religion and tribes really hinders us as humans


we are know the last part of your comment is so true but pls raum.deuter is a very dangerous human being to begin to agree completely with his view on football. He will leave you questioning your own sanity when you discover that some of his criteria for judging and analysing players comes as a result of not wanting to agree with Air.mark
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 5:36pm On Oct 04, 2021
Leyqute:
Skimpledawg what do you think of Thomas Frank and the prospects of Brentford?

Can’t believe they defeated West Ham away from home.
Sincerely, haven't seen any game of Brentford to make any comment and decision yet.

Our next PL game is against them and I'd like to see what Thomas Frank has to offer us this season.

Hope he isn't another Parker?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:37pm On Oct 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


For you to know others problem you should know your own problem

Firmino was benched by Jota a player who plainly plays on the left wing, Firmino is the weakest link in Liverpools front line which I have always said years ago but as usual most of you only catch up years later

Same way I told you Hazard will be useless in Spain
Same way I told you that Salah is the greatest African to ever play in the EPL
Same way I told you Lampard was a useless coach and players were not the problem

You did stronghead with all these and are still doing for some but every rational person will see that my views stated years ago come to pass and yours fail
You are missing the discussion, nobody is saying Firmino is better than either Salah or Mane but his contribution to their attack is very important is what we are letting you know, calling him useless is what we are correcting. Hazard was hit with injury at Madrid, meanwhile, your Neymar is not doing better too, they just lost yesterday. I never argued Salah with you but you said he is greater than Drogba as at that time which was false, even till now he is not greater than Drogba. Drogba did more for Chelsea and epl than Salah so far, stats is not everything. Who doesn’t know Lampard is not a tier 1 coach, he was been supported because he is one of our own but when it was now obvious that he can lead the team to trophies some of us here revolted against him to be sacked. You are the poorest football analyst I have come across in my entire life. Little wonder you are supporting Bayern Munich, a safe haven for less engagement. You come here to pass time and troll.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:40pm On Oct 04, 2021
nihilistjnr:


What?!

You need to be attested
He is good but not my type of striker. He is technically average but good in other areas; strength, pace and scoring instinct.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Exonerate1(m): 5:44pm On Oct 04, 2021
izzou:


How many key passes or assists have Mount, Havertz, Dr Pulisic and Ziyech dropped since he came?


Can't blame him, he's trying his best with the half decent chances our other attackers create for him. But why doesn't he drop deep and participate in build-up rather than just being static upfront all game?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emmynator(m): 5:50pm On Oct 04, 2021
popizaino:



The only reason why we are going to be too predictable is because of Jorginho,cus everyone is aware of what he is going to do with the ball.He's never going to move forward with the ball or neither is he going to try to beat a press press or pick out his wingback running on the flank so tell me why we aren't going to be too predictable with such a limited player.

You come carry this Jorginho matter for head pass sir ibi.me o grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:52pm On Oct 04, 2021
Jodera:
I dunno if scoring at home gives 4points while scoring away gives 3points.

grin grin grin

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