TLona1:


Only ClownMark uses probability to determine certainty.

Klopp got to 3 UCL finals.. lol. Why doesn't he still have up to Pep's number of UCLs?

Because klopp didn't have a Messi in his teams, hence he didn't have his numbers.

Klopp won Ucl without a Messi, imagine what he would have done with him.

Meanwhile, Fraudiola has never won any Ucl without Messi, that's a fact that keeps giving you Fraudiola's fanboys, a devastating right hook.

raumdeuter:


Roman will not fire an attacking coach who wins

Roman can fire anybody if result is not coming the way he wants it. Roman fired Ancelotti who just won epl and fa cup after short poor run of form the other season.

TLona1:



LMAO.

Why does this "first season" thing only apply to Pep?

This man is so good and has really raised the standards.

Follow the argument.

You will know.

raumdeuter:


If he failed he would have been fired, Neither Barcelona nor Bayern fired him, he left when his contract expired

They don’t need to fire him, he saw that he had failed with the squad and ran, typical of him.

airmark:


Fraudiola only wants an already solid team to coach and fears a club already going down.

Conte is about to join Spurs now, that's how to know a sound coach not a Fraudiola that wants all set for him and depends on billions to win local trophies before joining a club.

If top clubs are after Cuntay he wont be going to Spurs

How many top professionals will leave Microsoft and go manage Baba Ijebu and co

No top club wanted Cuntay that is why Spurs is in for him
He is now a Spurs level coach. Like Mourinho after top clubs abandoned him, After Spurs, Cuntay will be on his way to prove himself at Roma and Wolves and later in division 2

airmark:


Ngbo A40, was Fraudiola excellent at Bayern?

I still have your quote where you cursed him for destroying your team o. So, be guided.

The owners of Bayern begged him with an extension and he declined. Everywhere Pep went they re always begging him to extend unlike Nuno that got fired in 4 months

raumdeuter:


How was PSG failing to win before Poch joined? How many points behind the leader was PSG when Poch joined and managed to finish by how many points?

Pep already built a pedigree from other clubs and that is why he didnt get fired

if they are not failing, they won't fire their manager.

Are they topping the league when he took over?

So Nuno didn't Build his own pedigree? Tottenham took him from the street and made him manager?

airmark:


Klopp would have won Ucl with all the resources provided for Fraudiola at Bayern and City.

Klopp got to 3 Ucl finals without spending 1bn on a Ucl semifinalist.

Shebi we see as Nuno dey win the CL with Spurs after all the better players he is managing

I didnt know a coach can manage Harry Kane to 1 goal by October

airmark:


Because klopp didn't have a Messi in his teams, hence he didn't have his numbers.

Klopp won Ucl without a Messi, imagine what he would have done with him.

Meanwhile, Fraudiola has never won any Ucl without Messi, that's a fact that keeps giving you Fraudiola's fanboys, a devastating right hook.

Tata Martino, Villanova and Valverde had Messi but couldn't win the UCL.

Argentina also Maradona, Sabella and other coaches but couldn't win any tangible international trophy with Messi in the team.

Yes Messi is a cheat but the real question, how well can you use him? There's a reason why Messi won 4 ballon d'ors within the 4 years Pep was Barca's manager. After Pep left, winning the ballon d'or became a huge challenge for Messi.

Utilizing Messi is not for every coach.

Amoto94:

This is not a given. If you said League I would agree with you but UCL is a different animal.

Klopp took Dortmund to final, he nearly won it against Madrid but for Salah's injury. He clinched it on his third attempt. Give him 1bn like Fraudiola for a Ucl semifinalist and i can bet within 4yrs he would win it.

Fraudiola is a fraud that shines only when the playing ground is not levelled. Now hand don meet am, no Ucl for him without Messi.

NinjaXmetahuman:
if they are not failing, they won't fire their manager.

Are they topping the league when he took over?

So Nuno didn't Build his own pedigree? Tottenham took him from the street and made him manager?

Which pedigree did Nuno build? If his pedigree was enough it would have bought him time like Pep

So Liverpool not toping the league now means they are failing?

hensben:
Roman can fire anybody if result is not coming the way he wants it. Roman fired Ancelotti who just won epl and fa cup after short poor run of form the other season.

Ancelotti did not win the league that was why Roman fired him plus he lost home and away in the CL to Man Utd

TLona1:


Tata Martino, Villanova and Valverde had Messi but couldn't win the UCL.

Argentina also Maradona, Sabella and other coaches but couldn't win any tangible international trophy with Messi in the team.

Yes Messi is a cheat but the real question, how well can you use him? There's a reason why Messi won 4 ballon d'ors within the 4 years Pep was Barca's manager. After Pep left, winning the ballon d'or became a huge challenge for Messi.

Utilizing Messi is not for every coach.

Stop mentioning Tata and other average coaches that failed. Enrique won Ucl with Messi, so let us hear word.

Klopp didnt use Messi or spend 1bn to get to Ucl finals thrice. So, rest.

raumdeuter:


Ancelotti did not win the league that was why Roman fired him plus he lost home and away in the CL to Man Utd

Ancelotti won the league and FA cup and played attacking football that season, the following season wasn’t concluded when he was sacked. How can you sack a coach because he didn’t win ucl you haven’t won before(then), that’s the impatient of Roman I’m talking about. Why not give him more season knowing he is a serial ucl winner. No club will sack a coach in that situation except Chelsea under Roman.

hensben:
Ancelotti won the league and FA cup and played attacking football that season, the following season wasn’t concluded when he was sacked. How can you sack a coach because he didn’t win ucl you haven’t won before(then), that’s the impatient of Roman I’m talking about. Why not give him more season knowing he is a serial ucl winner. No club will sack a coach in that situation except Chelsea under Roman.

Are you sure of the bold? Cos you dont seem to know your own club so well

airmark:


Stop mentioning Tata and other average coaches that failed. Enrique won Ucl with Messi, so let us hear word.

Klopp didnt use Messi or spend 1bn to get to Ucl finals thrice. So, rest.

Since you want to be a clown, When Will Klopp Win the UCL without Salah?

raumdeuter:


Which pedigree did Nuno build? If his pedigree was enough it would have bought him time like Pep

So Liverpool not toping the league now means they are failing?

Enough pedigree for Tottenham to consider him for the job cos he was the only one they could afford.

So you are seriously comparing psg before tuchel was sacked to Liverpool this season just cos you are losing the control of the argument?
Lol know when to give up.

raumdeuter:


Are you sure of the bold? Cos you dont seem to know your own club so well

Ye she did conclude the season, I had to go check. But it doesn’t warrant sacking because normally he is not expected to win it every season. SAF wasn’t winning it every season either, he only won ucl twice in his 26 years Man U manager. Agree that Roman is impatient with not winning a trophy, attacking play or not.

NinjaXmetahuman:
Enough pedigree for Tottenham to consider him for the job cos he was the only one they could afford.

So you are seriously comparing psg before tuchel was sacked to Liverpool this season just cos you are losing the control of the argument?
Lol know when to give up.

So PSG was trailing the leader by 1 point is PSG failing
The Liverpool trailing Chelsea by more than 1 point is not failing?

or when Bayern trails in the Bundesliga they are failing?

raumdeuter:


The owners of Bayern begged him with an extension and he declined. Everywhere Pep went they re always begging him to extend unlike Nuno that got fired in 4 months

A40 will come and curse you and your Fraudiola soon.

raumdeuter:


So PSG was trailing the leader by 1 point is PSG failing
The Liverpool trailing Chelsea by more than 1 point is not failing?

is there a time in the last 5 years that psg was trailing 1 point behind league leader half season in?

TLona1:


Since you want to be a clown, When Will Klopp Win the UCL without Salah?

When Salah leaves or Klopp leaves Liverpool.

Salah never got to Ucl final let alone lifting the trophy, until he met Klopp. Messi did it without Fraudiola twice. The difference is clear. Try something else.

hensben:
Ye she did conclude the season, I had to go check. But it doesn’t warrant sacking because normally he is not expected to win it every season. SAF wasn’t winning it every season either, he only won ucl twice in his 26 years Man U manager. Agree that Roman is impatient with not winning a trophy, attacking play or not.

You always throw false statements everytime. Ancelotti was sacked for not winning the league and losing home and away in the CL

NinjaXmetahuman:
is there a time in the last 5 years that psg was trailing 1 point behind league leader half season in?

So when Bayern trails the league leader they are failing?

airmark:


A40 will come and curse you and your Fraudiola soon.

Is he the club owner who begged Pep for an extension or does he know more than them?

raumdeuter:


You always throw false statements everytime. Ancelotti was sacked for not winning the league and losing home and away in the CL

Whats false statement after checking and seeing that he actually concluded the season with us. No club will sack a manager fire going trophyless after winning epl and FA cup in his first season except Chelsea under Roman.

raumdeuter:


So when Bayern trails the league leader they are failing?

Lol keep jumping from pillar to pole Na

Didn't Bayern sack Kovac half season after doing a wonderful
job ?

Silentgroper:
When james start scoring freekicks nd giving defense passes. Then u compare. All dz up there are piles of bollocks

scoring free kicks, when there are other free kick takers. But he still takes some quality free kicks and corner kicks

James gives defense splitting passes, don't know what your typing about

raumdeuter:


Is he the club owner who begged Pep for an extension or does he know more than them?

Are you saying A40 was foolish for typing this below?.

A40:

I won't deny I was pro-Pep when he came in fact I recall the grueling arguments I had here with Nitlad where we argued extensively and he warned me. I was unhappy with the way we sidelined Don Jupp, but we were getting Pep it would be worth it we all thought

However I started seeing cracks when he brought that 4-1-4-1 nonsense. After seeing us in the knockout stages of the CL no well meaning Bayern fan was comfortable with our style of play! I had issues with Pep from the very first season because I always saw us losing the same damn way. Mauling small fry like Porto, Donetsk, losing badly to Barça, Madrid and looking outclassed while at it. You can argue with my choice of words and tag it like hyperbole but this is the normal response to Fraudiola apostles who think the sun shines from his behind.

A40:


Your Pep Fraudiola took us from defending Champions to disgrace. Which we haven't fully recovered from.

He will end up in China in a few years. O ti sure ju

raumdeuter:


If top clubs are after Cuntay he wont be going to Spurs

How many top professionals will leave Microsoft and go manage Baba Ijebu and co

No top club wanted Cuntay that is why Spurs is in for him
He is now a Spurs level coach. Like Mourinho after top clubs abandoned him, After Spurs, Cuntay will be on his way to prove himself at Roma and Wolves and later in division 2

which top club is available and can afford to employ Conte or u just wan type

Lmao

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hensben:
Whats false statement after checking and seeing that he actually concluded the season with us. No club will sack a manager fire going trophyless after winning epl and FA cup in his first season except Chelsea under Roman.

Leicester fired Ranieri the season after he won the EPL