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Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:05pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
elated177: The result of my own research is that Jehovah's Witnesses organization are correct that's why they're achieving all what the scriptures foretold about God's ORGANIZED people during the endtime! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 So it's you who supposed to do your research well because if you're talking about a God that was worshiped in ancient times in a well organized and orderly manner but you're now claiming you're worshiping the same God yet you can't point to any organized group of people worshiping that same God today with evidence, then it either means that God is no more or you are not connected to Him! 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by achorladey: 5:29pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
elated177: He has to narrow it down to that because he has been taught by his religious leaders that they are the only true channel Jehovah is using to dispense accurate Bible knowledge. It is the easiest way for him to get out of the discussion when locked in. The Op said God's name was removed from the Bible and chief among those that did the removal is christendom yet the same christendom had the AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION which the organization WTBTS he belongs said is one of the outstanding bible for making sure that the name Jehovah appeared over 6000 times. The Op should tell us who is really removing what from the Bible. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by Nobody: 7:26pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by Emusan(m): 7:36pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
achorladey: Just like calling someone "Our friend" and another comment on the same thread the person suddenly became "MAD person" You'll then be wondered, why speaking from both side of the mouth? 1. The same Christendom are the one who formulated the Latin name Jehovah 2. The same Christendom are the one who still realized Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah Even when WTBTS knows this, to revert back to YAHWEH is impossible because they already named themselves Jehovah witness 3. The same Christendom and Trinitarian are the one who first used the name Jehovah/Yahweh 4. The same Christendom are the one who sponsored most of the research that leads to the discovery of all known ancient manuscripts today. 5. The same Christendom are in charge of all known and discovered ancient manuscripts today. 6. The same Christendom still allows free access to all these ancient information by individuals or group of people. If this people actually want to hide something how easy it would've been for them. That's why you see them coming with different lies just to keep deceiving themselves. The OP out of ignorance or deceitful heart said somewhere that "YAHWEH is the Hebrew transliteration while Jehovah is English translation" I can't just imagine the extent they can go to lie for their god 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by achorladey: 7:49pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
Emusan: The thread the Op create just get as e be. That the fourth president of the organization they belong said Jehovah unquestionably arranged the removal and omission of his name in the new testament and that Jesus and his disciples never for once use the name throughout and the Op come out and say the name was removed. I just dey laugh. Removed by who? Dem no fit answer. Do people really need the name to develop relationships with God, dem no fit answer. This ones can call people apostates up and down. Dem never know the real apostate. Dem still they learn. After all they have been warned that when they see real apostates, they will not know. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by Janosky: 9:21pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
achorladey:[b]Na the 4th President write John 17:6,26 & Mark 12:29 wey dey your Bible? Proof Jesus used God's name: John 17:6,26 and Mark 12:29 dey your Bible? If you get liver, come here and lie you did not see the screenshot of Israeli/Hebrew scholar's discovery of Jehovah's name in 1,000 Bible manuscripts you have been mocking in your previous posts. You are free to carry the 4th President's comment in early 20th century on your head like Gala. 1,000 Bible manuscripts discoveries of God's name is more important & relevant. The man would welcome & commend this discoveries if he were alive today. Achorladey Read the screenshot again. Wayo man you are! achorladey:Achorladey laugh at yourself, you bigot. Emusan your comrade, made that same claim Emusan: "Everyone knows including your demonic organization that the divine name was replaced with Elohim and Adonai" Direct your question to Emusan,your comrade in FALSEHOOD . achorladey:At the bolded, Achorladey so you can stoop so low to type that GIBBERISH. Do I need to know your name to develop close friendship with you? You have made a mockery of yourself. In screenshots,How many times on this public forum, was Achorladey's deception exposed ?
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Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by Janosky: 9:30pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
Emusan:In the screenshot, is that Catholic Cardinal Arinze telling the laity to use God's name in the leturgy ? He banned the use of Yahweh in Church! Where is the encouragement of Christendom to use God's name when he is telling them to stop using the divine name in the Church? How times in your Church do you hear "Praise Yahweh" or "Praise JEHOVAH" spoken from the pulpit? Who are those against the use of God's name in Church? The leaders of Christendom & their Laity, 3 doghead slaves You are DECEIVING yourself. Emusan: See this clown DECEIVING himself. The OP is right. That is why you call "Jesus" upandan. His Hebrew name is NOT Jesus. His Greek name is NOT Jesus!
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Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by Janosky: 9:51pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
achorladey:Achorladey argument is built on quicksand. Apart from American Standard Version (ASV) & NWT,how many Bible versions has Achorladey read God's name over 6000 times? If you get liver, name at least 7. The Screenshot speaks volumes. The leaders of Christendom and their Laity collectively reject the use of God's name in Church services. Sink that truth into your brain.
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Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by Janosky: 9:55pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
achorladey:John 5:43 & John 17:6,26,is "Father" the name of his God? Wayo man you are! |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by Janosky: 10:05pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
Hundredfold4lif:JEHOVAH is the widely KNOWN English word for Yahweh just as Jesus is for Yehoshua. Hundredfold4lif:Hebrew language Bibles mostly. Hundredfold4lif:NKJV,yes. 1000 Bible manuscript discoveries proven God's name is Yehovah (screenshot) NOT Yahweh, which is generally accepted. Hundredfold4lif:Oga, na you get your mouth. Say whatever pleases you
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Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by Janosky: 10:39pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
achorladey:Mark 12:29 & John 17:6 , Jesus Christ proven you're LYING. achorladey:Kai !!!!! Is your surname DADDY, BABA MI? We need to see your WASC/School Certificate to check something. achorladey:Remove your Father's name in all your public records & documentation,& give the proof here. Then,we are rest assured your claim would count. Wayo man you be jejely! achorladey:Achorladey is desperate to change John 5:43, did Jesus bear his Father's name? This man you well? achorladey:With solid evidences on this thread,What is the difference between you, Achorladey and the Israelites ? Will someone who have a close relationship with his own Father make this your claim: "it is not the name the father who gave birth to you bears that made you draw close to him", , that his Father's name doesn't matter? |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by MightySparrow: 3:51am On Nov 02, 2021 |
elated177:Thanks bro. These self acclaimed teachers that assume that besides them, no one knows anything about God! In response to my post on this thread, MaxInDHouse was saying that everyone that know God called on God by His name Jehovah. That is a lie. Before Egyptian civilization was Aramaian. The earliest universal language was Aramaic.the question is which language (s) were spoken by Adam, Enoch, Noah? Definitely not Hebrew. The name jehovah first in the time of Moses. Abraham himself, was a Syrian, an Arab. From there, a group of people known as Hebrew came out. The restes of Abraham's descendants from other two wives are still Arabs till today! The name jehovah is in what language? Hebrew, I think, because Abraham himself should have heard of it somehow. Anyways, JWs wants to harass you into believing their doctrines. When Paul got to Greece, he saw an altar built to an unknown God. He claimed that that unknown God is who he came to present to them. No one, nation, people that didn't no God before Christian faith. According to 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Romans 1: 19 -24 If Paul was right, in every place people knew about God and hence, called Him names in their languages Olorun, Ubangiji, Chineke, Theos etc In every place except the Greek place mentioned above, there are none or few where altars are raise for the Almighty God. People call on Him the way they understood. The main idea behind this teaching is to deny the Godhood ( Godhead) of Jesus. And that is a lie. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by achorladey: 5:08am On Nov 02, 2021 |
Janosky: Is your surname DADDY, BABA MI? We need to see your WASC/School Certificate to check something..... Janosky IRRELEVANT and ARCHAIC IDEAS na your way One simple question and run to your usual deception and liars or meshuggah labels. Are you talking about surnames or personal names Is the Op talking about surnames or personal names? Awon meshuggah peddler Remove your Father's name in all your public records & documentation,& give the proof here. Then,we are rest assured your claim would count. Wayo man you be jejely..... Janosky We dey talk relationship he is talking certificate. In your years of experience and existence the name on your certificate is what you used to develop intimate relationships with your father. Another ARCHAIC IDEAS filled with IRRELEVANT things. Achorladey is desperate to change John 5:43, did Jesus bear his Father's name? This man you well...... Janosky Bring the father's name out in that account John 5:43. Search from now till tomorrow you cannot change John 5:43 into Jehovah . I don't even need to change anything in the first place. With solid evidences on this thread,What is the difference between you, Achorladey and the Israelites..... Janosky Those irrelevant and archaic evidence abi? Will someone who have a close relationship with his own Father make this your claim.... Janosky That same notorious nation your Jehovah called stiffnecked and hardhearted were notorious for not developing strong and lasting relationships with your Jehovah despite carrying his name like GALA . it is not the name the father who gave birth to you bears that made you draw close to him" that his Father's name doesn't matter.... Janosky Read the above well enough and get the sense of it. Janosky while growing from age 1 to age Methuselah you don't need to call your papa by his name to have relationship with him. In fact what you still call him today is papa, daddy, baba mi. These are not ARCHAIC IDEAS, it is what you do everyday. |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by achorladey: 5:13am On Nov 02, 2021 |
Janosky: Who owns AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION? A. Jehovah's Witnesses B. Christendom C. Apart from ASV D. I japa into something else. Awon apart from American standard version people. It was even found in other translations paapaa even if it is not as many as that of ASV. Finally who is removing what from the Bible? The thread no get foundation and basis . Saying apart from ASV tell you that you need to inform Op that the thread is irrelevant. |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by achorladey: 5:18am On Nov 02, 2021 |
MightySparrow: The name (Jehovah) that were already in print before they had their own NWT is what these ones are saying was removed. Like Emusan posit. Who coined the name JEHOVAH in the first place? Pastor Russell abi Rutherford Who is really removing what? They cannot answer. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by achorladey: 5:22am On Nov 02, 2021 |
Janosky: Bring the name out of those scriptures. Is that hard for you to do Janosky? Well Mr Franz said your Jehovah unquestionably arranged the omission and permission not to use the name Jehovah in the new testament . Me I am still waiting for the name Jesus used in those two accounts since this same Jehovah unquestionably arranged for the omission and permission not to use it or you go back to your usual...... ARCHAIC IDEAS, to be mocked and are irrelevant as a result of recent biblical evidence.... Janosky 2021 |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by achorladey: 5:35am On Nov 02, 2021 |
Janosky: Na the 4th President write John 17:6,26 & Mark 12:29 wey dey your Bible? Proof Jesus used God's name: John 17:6,26 and Mark 12:29 dey your Bible?.......Janosky Throwing Fred Franz under the Bus. In reality Fred Franz words are ARCHAIC IDEAS, TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE . Show me that name in that account. If you get liver, come here and lie you did not see the screenshot of Israeli/Hebrew scholar's discovery of Jehovah's name in 1,000 Bible manuscripts you have been mocking in your previous posts..... Janosky And Emusan said those Bible Manuscript are made by Jehovah’s Witnesses abi? . Oga Janosky tell us who is really removing the names . My reference material and yours still proves the irrelevance of this thread. At the bolded, Achorladey so you can stoop so low to type that GIBBERISH...... Janosky Meshuggah peddler what do you expect. You are the meshuggah peddler here. Think! Do I need to know your name to develop close friendship with you? The word friendship should make you reason and think. I am not your father but a friend You have made a mockery of yourself. In screenshot, How many times on this public forum, was Achorladey's deception exposed?.... Janosky Janosky una dey sell Kingdom halls dedicated to Jehovah? Answer first now. Abi o fe japa. This thread no get relevance. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:57am On Nov 02, 2021 |
MightySparrow:I told you that you're free to ask me questions about whatever i say but since you choose to talk about me with others instead of chatting with me my own concern is the highlighted! Remember that everyone on this planet speaks the same language before God confused their language {Genesis 11:1-9} so what makes you think that same God doesn't know the original language out of all others? Well in my own opinion the Hebrew language must be the original language everyone speaks before the confusion otherwise it will make no sense if God choose a nation speaking one out of the (CONFUSED) languages then promised that all the peoples will still come back to speak one language {Zephaniah 3:9} when the nation through which it will be made possible aren't even speaking the original language! Zechariah 8:23 I'm not contesting what you said but i believe in the language God Himself speaks first after the confusion at Babel {Genesis 12:1-3} which is Hebrew God spoke with Abraham and as for the language of Abraham well he was known by his contemporaries as (the Hebrew) Genesis 14:13 May you have PEACE! |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by MightySparrow: 7:13am On Nov 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: So, God's language is Hebrew? If He created everyone, confused their language He understands and relates with people by His own standard (election). Well, Hebrew may have been the original language. My take, God revealed Himself to Moses, he said, I am 15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. Exodus 3: 15. Since God confirmed this name, though long, can we still put it today wherever we see God in the scriptures? Or must be jehovah as claimed? Mind you, He said,' This is my name forever and my memorial. Why do you think the name jehovah takes precedence over this. I have read and heard your people claiming that jehovah is God's personal name. The former one is not personal? 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:59am On Nov 02, 2021 |
MightySparrow: The name JEHOVAH simply means "He causes to become" "A lè wí lè ṣe" So when JEHOVAH told Moses "I will become whatever i choose to become" He is expatiating on the meaning of the name "JEHOVAH" which He told Moses that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob never saw Him exhibit the full meaning of His name! Exodus 6:2-3 The KJV translated that part as "I am what i am" And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14 KJV So God said to Moses: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become.” And he added: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘I Will Become has sent me to you.’” Exodus 3:14 NWT If you truly want to understand God's word you need to read, study and compare different versions, then meditate thoroughly on the words each translator choose to use for these texts before you can really get the sense of what you're reading in the Bible! Proverbs 2:1-5 JEHOVAH simply means "He causes to become" which is the reason why He told Moses "i will become whatever i choose to become" the translators of KJV tried but their rendering of that phrase "i am that i am" distorted the meaning of what God said in that verse! 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by MightySparrow: 8:14am On Nov 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Well due to to language limitations, I personally don't believe there is any words put together that can describe God. I agree with you this time partially. Because in Genesis 17. He told Abraham that He is Almighty, capable of doing, becoming, undoing all and everything. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:31am On Nov 02, 2021 |
MightySparrow: Well i don't think the OP wants to DESCRIBE God rather he is talking about the use of God's PERSONAL name in a book authored by God Himself. It's one thing knowing the name of a book's author, it's another thing entirely when talking about what the Author said about His PERSONAL name: That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. Psalms 83:18 KJV May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth. Psalms 83:18 NWT The Authors PERSONAL name may be "Ṣóyínká" and it's good to know what that name means in Chinese but insisting on DESCRIBING his name in Chinese simply because you don't want to use the same language in which he introduced his name may mean lack of regard for the author who simply told you His name and what it means! John 17:6,26 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by achorladey: 9:00pm On Nov 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: the translators of KJV tried but their rendering of that phrase "i am that i am" distorted the meaning of what God said in that verse... MaxInDHouse Oga MaxInDHouse na military intelligence you get, you have not yet told us the qualifications you have in Hebrew language and English language or your expertise in Bible translations. I believe you know you are not an authority in any of these. Make your point and stop judging things you lack expertise. |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by achorladey: 9:23pm On Nov 02, 2021 |
MightySparrow: Why do you think the name jehovah takes precedence over this. I have read and heard your people claiming that jehovah is God's personal name... MightySparrow Key question you raised. When they come out and say God's name was removed from the Bible you begin to wonder who is really removing what in particular. Even this Jehovah they use here and there didn't originate with their religious organization. |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by MightySparrow: 11:24pm On Nov 02, 2021 |
achorladey: Did you follow my own line of argument? God Himself, introduced Himself as to Moses, who probably, didn't hear about God based on his background and said,........' this is my name forever.....' then introduced another. name. Which of these is not personal name? 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by johnw47: 1:46am On Nov 03, 2021 |
Janosky: Janosky: Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool blasphemer janosky, see how like your forefathers the pharisees, you love to blaspheme The Holy Spirit along with the Father and Jesus, calling them "doghead" satan has you repeating your blasphemy of The Father and Jesus and The Holy spirit two and three times in the same posts and just two or three lines apart, and you are loving it you will continue obeying satan your god in blaspheming The Holy Spirit, The Father and Jesus until your last breath: Mar 3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin blasphemer janosky: "the 3 dogheads", "the oly spirit", the oly demonic ghost" Janosky: Janosky: Janosky: Janosky: and on and on and on ..... and more and more and more there is no repentance for the unforgivable sin, even if later on you beg for it with tears |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:44am On Nov 03, 2021 |
MightySparrow: MightySparrow, why not concentrate on one side then after you've gotten the sense of what JWs are saying try to concentrate on what other people are saying then figure out which one is consistent? The person you're responding to has nothing to offer other than criticism! For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6 99.9% of readers of this verse knows that the person talked about here as a personal name (Jesus) but please can you convince sonmvayina that Jesus is the personal name of the one Isaiah is talking about? The answer is NO! Why? Because the verse never mentioned the PERSONAL NAME "Jesus" sonmvayina will continue to argue with anyone over the personal name of the person Isaiah is talking about there. So for the fact that Isaiah said "his name will be called" but never mentioned "Jesus" Muslims and the likes of sonmvayina will never agree that it's Jesus. The same thing happened at Exodus 3:15 and 6:3, God's personal name is mentioned but His character which led to that name is what God described at Exodus 3:15. The problem here is that you people don't go preaching and teaching as Jesus commands otherwise you should try to preach to an Hindu or Buddhist then after telling him/her all the good thing Jesus will do don't mention his personal name, just say "Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace" then leave the Hindu and Buddhist to sort out the rest if they will not tell you they know the person that verse is talking about: The Hindu will tell you it's LORD Krishna while the Buddhist will tell you it's LORD Buddha. That's the importance of the PERSONAL name of God that you're trying to dispute now! 1 Like |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by achorladey: 6:25am On Nov 03, 2021 |
MightySparrow: Did you follow my own line of argument... MightySparrow Yes, and the reason is why I said why will a religious organisation jump on JEHOVAH and begin to impress it on everyone that this is God's personal name and must be used or went ahead to say what they call God's personal name was removed from the Bible whereas that name itself never originated with the religious organization and the name was coined just some six hundred years AGO while other names used have been in existence long before JEHOVAH came into the picture. Reality tell us what Moses heard God pronounced wasn't JEHOVAH . |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by achorladey: 6:32am On Nov 03, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: MightySparrow, why not concentrate on one side then after you've gotten the sense of what JWs are saying try to concentrate on what other people are saying then figure out which one is consistent?... MaxInDHouse Well due to to language limitations, I personally don't believe there is any words put together that can describe God..... MightySparrow You sure you see this before typing the above about MightySparrow? The person you're responding to has nothing to offer other than criticism!.... MaxInDHouse Considering you cannot lay a single hold against my post so far . After all from your darling religious leaders said CRITICISM is not UNCHRISTIAN . Pe le ti e. I am not like you who said a particular part of the Bible was not translated well enough when you lack expertise in that field in the first place. |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by MightySparrow: 6:52am On Nov 03, 2021 |
achorladey: I can't make anything out of this post. |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by MightySparrow: 6:55am On Nov 03, 2021 |
achorladey: Ok to whom was revealed this name? How is the name to be used? |
Re: Why Is God's Name 'JEHOVAH' Not In Your Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:04am On Nov 03, 2021 |
MightySparrow: Háà you should know now that the name "Jesus" wasn't how the mother and father use to call him nah! So it's the same with "JEHOVAH" what JWs are saying is if all the personal names deities and people in the Bible is recorded and remembered there's no reason why God's personal name should be disputed whether Yahweh, Yehowah, Lehova or Jehovah the true God has a PERSONAL name and Jesus emphasized that that name must be put to used! Matthew 6:9; John 17:6, 26 |
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