Janosky:

Are you called by your earthly Father's name?
Don't you bear his name?

habitual blasphemer and fraud jw janosky

you cannot answer anything honestly, of course
the question was not what a earthly father's son is called, but
do you call your earthly father by his name

the answer is no, you don't call your earthly father bill or bill smith or smithy, you call him father etc.


Jesus didn't say to call God jehovah, but said to call Him Father:

Mat_6:9  After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven
Mat_7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

when2:

When addressing your earthly father, do yo call him by his name?

MaxInDHouse:


That's the version approved by the churches of Christendom to be used for CRK in schools, so that anybody can teach CRK without indoctrinating any child towards liking or hating any church.
Since all Christendom Churches unanimously agreed on the title LORD and GOD in replacement of the divine name, they thought the RSV will be the best so the scholars can choose any church of their choice after all the interpreters of the RSV are members of all different sects. That's why most students who thought they have Bible knowledge through CRK in schools found it strange that God has a PERSONAL name!

You were a soldier, right,? You should know the difference between classwork, theory and research battle. In a a school curriculum, academic and real practice are not the same. I had a Muslim friend who was always coming first in CRK, He is still practicing his Islam today.
So many professors of Christian religion are next to atheists. So Christian practice is different from works of professional teacher.


I am a trinitarian, yes, I don't use RSV, except to check things atimes for various views. I like KJV.

So mentioning God by name or title, to which, does Henot respond?

MightySparrow:

You were a soldier, right,? You should know the difference between classwork, theory and research battle. In a a school curriculum, academic and real practice are not the same. I had a Muslim friend who was always coming first in CRK, He is still practicing his Islam today. So many professors of Christian religion are next to atheists. So Christian practice is different from works of professional teacher.
I am a trinitarian, yes, I don't use RSV, except to check things atimes for various views. I like KJV. So mentioning God by name or title, to which, does Henot respond?

Now you are talking like a real pagan!

First of all is the Bible a textbook that should be studied like a subject or manual that needs to be fully understood for the student to be fully competent and completely equipped as a man of God? 2Timothy 3:16-17
Listen to yourself "a Muslim (one who does not believe that Jesus is God's Son) coming first in Christian Religious Knowledge" {John 14:6} and you are here saying it without remorse!
Well i just wanted to enlighten you that without JWs people can read the Bible but will never gain the accurate knowledge of God! 2Timothy 3:7
If truly you are a believer in Jesus Christ ask yourself do you think that Muslim truly deserve the grades the world gave him if what he learned never affected his understanding of God's son? John 17:3
That's what studying with the right version like the NWT and true Christians JWs can mean for you! Once you've not studied the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses i know you don't have any knowledge about Jesus Christ (God's only begotten Son) surely the world's philosophers called your Muslim friend best student in the knowledge of God's word (Bible) but to JWs your friend failed woefully if he never became a believer in the only begotten Son of God (Christian) after all the learning. The Ethiopian Eunuch discussed with Philip within a couple of minutes and instantly begged to be baptized as a Christian! Act 8:28-38
Now judge for yourself do you think the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis (who keeps studying God's word throughout their lives but never became Christians) had the ACCURATE knowledge of God's word?

That's why i always say that whoever is not one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES can't be a real Christian!

MaxInDHouse:


2Timothy 3:7
If truly you are a believer in Jesus Christ ask yourself do you think that Muslim truly deserve the grades the world gave him if what he learned never affected his understanding of God's son? John 17:3
That's what studying with the right version like the NWT and true Christians JWs can mean for you! Once you've not studied the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses i know you don't have any knowledge about Jesus Christ (God's only begotten Son) surely the world's philosophers called your Muslim friend best student in the knowledge of God's word (Bible) but to JWs your friend failed woefully if he never became a believer in the only begotten Son of God (Christian) after all the learning. The Ethiopian Eunuch discussed with Philip within a couple of minutes and instantly begged to be baptized as a Christian! Act 8:28-38
Now judge for yourself do you think the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis (who keeps studying God's word throughout their lives but never became Christians) had the ACCURATE knowledge of God's word?

That's why i always say that whoever is not one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES can't be a real Christian!

There is nothing like only Begotten son of God..

The word begotten was a corruption used by Trinitarians to mean Jesus was a begotten God.

It has been removed from the RSV version

How did God give birth to Jesus, did Jesus called himself begotten son?

Show where God called Jesus is only begotten son?


Mind you son of God is a metaphorical term, it was also used in the old testament to refer to isrealites (righteous servant)..

God gave birth to no one.. Jesus was a son of God just as beleivers, angels, Adam are sons of God. The role or rank might be different.

Psalm 82
6 I said, You are gods [since you judge on My behalf, as My representatives]; indeed, all of you are children of the Most High.

haekymbahd:
There is nothing like only Begotten son of God..
The word begotten was a corruption used by Trinitarians to mean Jesus was a begotten God.
It has been removed from the RSV version
How did God give birth to Jesus, did Jesus called himself begotten son?
Show where God called Jesus is only begotten son?
Mind you son of God is a metaphorical term, it was also used in the old testament to refer to isrealites (righteous servant)..
God gave birth to no one.. Jesus was a son of God just as beleivers, angels, Adam are sons of God. The role or rank might be different.
Psalm 82
6 I said, You are gods [since you judge on My behalf, as My representatives]; indeed, all of you are children of the Most High.

The "only begotten Son" means Jesus' sonship has a totally different from unlike all other intelligent beings having the attributes of God Jesus was created directly by God Himself! Proverbs 8:22 compare to John 1:1; Colossians 1:15-16

God refers to all intelligent beings as his sons even when their birth came through sexual reproduction but Jesus' beginning totally differs: He is the one and only creature God made singlehandedly that's the meaning of the phrase "only begotten"

haddeylium:
This God's name Jehovah appear originally more than 7,000 times in the bible. It's so sad that Man (not God) has removed and substituted God's name with mere titles like LORD and God (in some bible translations).
Note: Title is different from a personal Name.
Buhari is not the same as President.



Most answers claim that the reason is because “Jehovah” is not the correct pronunciation of God’s name in Old Hebrew. But that does not explain why Yahweh —or whatever the correct pronunciation is supposed to be— is not in most bibles either.
So, I’d say that that is not the reason.

Another , some considered that God’s personal name was too sacred to be pronounced out of respect for Judaism superstitious belief , of whom Jesus said: “You have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition.”—Matt. 15:6
This is baseless as well.


it's impossible that we'll be in close relationship with a friend that we don't know his personal name. God is not nameless, his titles are not his name. He has a real personal name.

Ex. 3:15: “God said . . . to Moses: ‘This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel, “Jehovah the God of your forefathers . . . has sent me to you.” This is my name to time indefinite, and this is the memorial of me to generation after generation

Psalm 83:18(KJV)
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

Conclusively, the central part of Jesus assignment on Earth is to make this God's name known.(Read John 7:26).
Is God's name as important to you as it is to Jesus?

Having a close relationship with God involve getting to know him by name

I guess you're Jehovah's witness.
Anyways, names are important.

Yorubas have a saying that "tori omo le daran la se sanwon loruko"
Meaning it's be cause a child can cause trouble that we give children names.

Though I believe more importantly it's because a child can be a blessing and a legend that we give the names.

The name of a person is their identity. It may be unique or not. But most importantly it identifies the person from a crowd.

This said, the matter of discourse being why the name Jehovah is not mentioned in modern versions of the bible is truly a matter of concern.
But more important is to understand why.

Jehovah is not the original God's name.
YHWH is the name God revealed to the Israelites,and Moses specifically.
YHWH which to the Jews is a name that shouldn't even be mentioned because it is too sacred, simply can be interpreted as I AM THAT I AM.

ELOHIM, YHWH, JEHOVAH, ADONAI, etc are various names the same God is identified by, within the bible.

The present day bible simply gives us the English interpretation and acceptable version of Jehovah/YHWH which is LORD.

The more pertinent question ergo is;

Does calling God by YHWH, JEHOVAH, LORD, ADONAI, etc determine ones answered prayers?

MaxInDHouse:


The "only begotten Son" means Jesus' sonship has a totally different from unlike all other intelligent beings having the attributes of God Jesus was created directly by God Himself! Proverbs 8:22 compare to John 1:1; Colossians 1:15-16

God refers to all intelligent beings as his sons even when their birth came through sexual reproduction but Jesus' beginning totally differs: He is the one and only creature God made singlehandedly that's the meaning of the phrase "only begotten"

but why use the word "beget" when you can use "unique"

There is difference between creating something and giving birth to something..

To the Trinitarians begotten son means begotten God do you also have the school of thought ..

The RSV version of the bible has removed the word "begotten" and called it corruption of the bible

Allah SWT said:
"He neither begets nor is born,"
(QS. Al-Ikhlaas 112: Verse 3)


If you say God "begets" gave birth to Jesus, then you should answer who gave birth God..

haekymbahd:
but why use the word "beget" when you can use "unique"

There is difference between creating something and giving birth to something..

To the Trinitarians begotten son means begotten God do you also have the school of thought ..

The RSV version of the bible has removed the word "begotten" and called it corruption of the bible

Allah SWT said:
"He neither begets nor is born,"
(QS. Al-Ikhlaas 112: Verse 3)


If you say God "begets" gave birth to Jesus, then you should answer who gave birth God..

My friend don't give yourself headache over what you can easily solve!
God promised that in the last days He will use His Holy Spirit to gather people from different races and certain things which is impossible in the gathering of imperfect humans will become possible {Isaiah 2:2-4} that means if you can find such a group today whatever they say about God is indisputable because there is evidence that God is in their gathering! Zechariah 8:23

Jesus is God's only begotten Son according to God's word but since there are many different religious groups claiming believers in the Bible yet contradicting themselves then the only way to know the group that God has revealed the truth to is by looking out for the group that is fulfilling what the Bible says about God's will in our time!

Myer:

Does calling God by YHWH, JEHOVAH, LORD, ADONAI, etc determine ones answered prayers?

Jesus' prayer should answer this question for us:

Jesus spoke these things, and raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your son so that your son may glorify you! John 17:1


I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me. John 17:20-23

Do you think God rejected Jesus' prayer?
If you don't then find the group in whose midst Jesus' prayer is granted today then ask them the name they are calling the God who is making Jesus' prayers work in their gathering.

“I have made your name manifest to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word" John 17:6

"I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them" John 17:26

Simple as ABC

MaxInDHouse:


Now you are talking like a real pagan!

First of all is the Bible a textbook that should be studied like a subject or manual that needs to be fully understood for the student to be fully competent and completely equipped as a man of God? 2Timothy 3:16-17
Listen to yourself [b]"a Muslim (one who does not believe that Jesus is God's Son) coming first in Christian Religious Knowledge {John 14:6} and you are here saying it without remorse!
Well i just wanted to enlighten you that without JWs people can read the Bible but will never gain the accurate knowledge of God! 2Timothy 3:7
If truly you are a believer in Jesus Christ ask yourself do you think that Muslim truly deserve the grades the world gave him if what he learned never affected his understanding of God's son? John 17:3
That's what studying with the right version like the NWT and true Christians JWs can mean for you! Once you've not studied the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses i know you don't have any knowledge about Jesus Christ (God's only begotten Son) surely the world's philosophers called your Muslim friend best student in the knowledge of God's word (Bible) but to JWs your friend failed woefully if he never became a believer in the only begotten Son of God (Christian) after all the learning. The Ethiopian Eunuch discussed with Philip within a couple of minutes and instantly begged to be baptized as a Christian! Act 8:28-38
Now judge for yourself do you think the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis (who keeps studying God's word throughout their lives but never became Christians) had the ACCURATE knowledge of God's word?

That's why i always say that whoever is not one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES can't be a real Christian!

You are the one behaving like an illiterate. The academic circle is different from religious. You want to see everything in the light of JW.org. Life is not like that. Few months ago, a Muslim Ph.D in Law bragged another doctoral degree in Christian Religion from the University of Ilorin. In my own church, rather than blindly criticising everybody, we send people to study them. I know a pastor who is about finishing his doctoral degree in Islamic Eschatology. Does it make him a Muslim? Rev. Fr, Prof, Kelly in University of Ibadan, is an authority in Islamic studies.




So, that a version is approved for academic purposes doesn't mean that everyone is carrying a Bible without the name of. God.

Anybody can read a Bible of one's choice. For me, I choose KJV, I am a trinitarian. Proudly one.

You can't force the knowledge of God down anybody's throat.

MightySparrow:

You are the one behaving like an illiterate. The academic circle is different from religious. You want to see everything in the light of JW.org. Life is not like that. Few months ago, a Muslim Ph.D in Law bragged another doctoral degree in Christian Religion from the University of Ilorin. In my own church, rather than blindly criticising everybody, we send people to study them. I know a pastor who is about finishing his doctoral degree in Islamic Eschatology. Does it make him a Muslim? Rev. Fr, Prof, Kelly in University of Ibadan, is an authority in Islamic studies. So, that a version is approved for academic purposes doesn't mean that everyone is carrying a Bible without the name of. God. Anybody can read a Bible of one's choice. For me, I choose KJV, I am a trinitarian. Proudly one. You can't force the knowledge of God down anybody's throat.

Why not back what you're saying with God's word the same way i did while expressing my own viewpoint?

Well what God's word says is that some people will continue learning but never come to an accurate knowledge of God:

always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth. 2Timothy 3:7

So i believe that a real student of God's word (Bible) should be fully competent and completely equipped as a man of God:

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work! 2Timothy 3:16

God's inspired writings is for teaching, reproving, setting matters straight, disciplining in righteousness so that the man of God who completed the study may be fully competent for every good work!

So it's not a textbook for philosophy but God's direction on how to gain accurate knowledge of God and His only begotten Son! John 17:3

Meanwhile do you think your Papa really teaches what you said in the highlighted?

May you have PEACE!

johnw47:



habitual blasphemer and fraud jw janosky

you cannot answer anything honestly, of course
the question was not what a earthly father's son is called, but
do you call your earthly father by his name

the answer is no, you don't call your earthly father bill or bill smith or smithy, you call him father etc.


Jesus didn't say to call God jehovah, but said to call Him Father:

Mat_6:9  After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven
Mat_7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Well said

MaxInDHouse:


Why not back what you're saying with God's word the same way i did while expressing my own viewpoint?

Well what God's word says is that some people will continue learning but never come to an accurate knowledge of God:

always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth. 2Timothy 3:7

So i believe that a real student of God's word (Bible) should be fully competent and completely equipped as a man of God:

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work! 2Timothy 3:16

God's inspired writings is for teaching, reproving, setting matters straight, disciplining in righteousness so that the man of God who completed the study may be fully competent for every good work!

So it's not a textbook for philosophy but God's direction on how to gain accurate knowledge of God and His only begotten Son! John 17:3

Meanwhile do you think your Papa really teaches what you said in the highlighted?

May you have PEACE!

I have always have the opinion that JWs know Greek and Hebrew but not God. The reason I can't be a part of them. You know I always talk about delusion. I don't think JW people know God. Members can know the GB but not God, Jehovah.

MightySparrow:

I have always have the opinion that JWs know Greek and Hebrew but not God. The reason I can't be a part of them. You know I always talk about delusion. I don't think JW people know God. Members can know the GB but not God, Jehovah.

Well if your Papa is insisting that his own blood sister who happens to be a Muslim must convert to Christian i wonder how he will feel if the same person bags a doctorate degree in Christian Religious Knowledge yet remains a Muslim!
Do you think Papa will approve such academy as something worthwhile when the students that came out with flying colours say it's not compulsory to be Christians?
I know you always talk about DELUSION but i'm sure that you're just running away from the truth!

MightySparrow:



I have read almost all versions of Bible at my disposal online, offline or hardcopy, partly or whole several times. I have not found one where jehovah is not given a mention, possibly those stand alone New Testament.
This is why I am surprised about the topic.

Many modern bible translations have removed God's name 'Jehovah' completely from their bible.
Even, the New King James version (If I'm not wrong)
Do you go through the the 0P's, Jehovah appears more than 7,000 times in the bible, is that the number of times it appears in yours?
KJV that people usually use only mentioned it 3times and removed in thousands times ....WHY?

hupernikao:


Like I said you have won.

I know how extremely hard it is for people in other religions to accept biblical truth, I've been there too. Biblical truth is absolute and not relative. Colour blue will always be blue even if a colour blind person sees something else.
Maybe I once told MaxInDHouse that someone that is colour blind is part of discussion, that will never change the coluur to something else. It requires time, effort and maybe ingenuity which I'll employ you to possess.

Myer:


Jehovah is not the original God's name.
YHWH is the name God revealed to the Israelites,and Moses specifically.
YHWH which to the Jews is a name that shouldn't even be mentioned because it is too sacred, simply can be interpreted as I AM THAT I AM.

I appreciate that you know how important a name is. I quite disagree with you with God's disapproving mentioning his name. That's wrong.
Infact, God enjoys when we use his name. God instructed his worshippers to call him by his name that it appears more than 7,000 than any other name. The scriptures below help us to see how knowing and using his name benefits us and helps us to have a close relationship with him.

Joel 2:32 “And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape,+ just as Jehovah has said, The survivors whom Jehovah calls.”

Jehovah is not the original God's name.

Do you mean Jehovah is not the Hebrew name of God? Yes! I agree with you. Jehovah is an English word.
The meaning like you mentioned is I am that I am(Shakespearean English) / I'll become what I'll become same as the meaning of YHWH/Yahweh.
Yaqqov and James, Yehoshua and Jesus are the same in different languages.

ELOHIM, YHWH, JEHOVAH, ADONAI, etc are various names the same God is identified by, within the bible.
The present day bible simply gives us the English interpretation and acceptable version of Jehovah/YHWH which is LORD.
The more pertinent question ergo is;
Does calling God by YHWH, JEHOVAH, LORD, ADONAI, etc determine ones answered prayers?

That would have make much sense if 'LORD' is his name? No! Lord is not a name but a title and has a completely different meaning.

Imagine someone writing a short biography about you and referred to you as 'That guy', That fellow, That person and never mentioned your name. Would it be much of a biography?
Further it confuses who the scriptures are referring to as most bibles today refer to both Jesus and Jehovah as “lord”.
Names are personal. Using them draws us closer to one another, as it should draw us closer to the Father, and him to us (James 4:.

MaxInDHouse:


Well if your Papa is insisting that his own blood sister who happens to be a Muslim must convert to Christian i wonder how he will feel if the same person bags a doctorate degree in Christian Religious Knowledge yet remains a Muslim!
Do you think Papa will approve such academy as something worthwhile when the students that came out with flying colours say it's not compulsory to be Christians?
I know you always talk about DELUSION but i'm sure that you're just running away from the truth!

All the same, I am convinced that JWs don't know God, but GB.

MightySparrow:

All the same, I am convinced that JWs don't know God, but GB.

They are the representatives of our God!

This is what Jehovah of armies says, ‘In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: “We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people" Zechariah 8:23

According to Zechariah these people will go with spirituality Jews {Romans 2:25-29} not because they have seen or heard God directly but because the have heard that God is with our GB (the spiritual Jews)
So they are the representatives of the God we want to worship, the Kingdom belongs to them and their spiritual brother and leader Jesus Christ {Luke 12:32} that's why Jesus said anyone who doesn't recognize them can't be in God's kingdom! Matthew 25:31-46

haddeylium:


I know how extremely hard it is for people in other religions to accept biblical truth, I've been there too. Biblical truth is absolute and not relative. Colour blue will always be blue even if a colour blind person sees something else.
Maybe I once told MaxInDHouse that someone that is colour blind is part of discussion, that will never change the coluur to something else. It requires time, effort and maybe ingenuity which I'll employ you to possess.

I know how extremely hard it is for people in other religions to accept biblical truth, I've been there too.....Haddeylium

Same applies to each and every member of the religious organization you belong. Many had been part of that organisation and know how they hold their members tightly through many policies that are not scriptural.



Biblical truth is absolute and not relative....Haddeylium

Yet this absolute truth in the organization you belong are referred to as PAST TRUTH, PRESENT TRUTH and FUTURE TRUTH Jehovah airpus


Colour blue will always be blue even if a colour blind person sees something else. Maybe I once told MaxInDHouse that someone that is colour blind is part of discussion, that will never change the colour to something else........ Haddeylium


That colour blue can always become colour black and remain colour black when the organization and religious leaders of yours says so. You can even go as far as saying it was never colour blue in the first place as long they ask you to defend it.



It requires time, effort and maybe ingenuity which I'll employ you to possess..... Haddeylium

You will be better off making use of the point above and remove the lens of your religious leaders in viewing the scripture. Jehovah that didn't exist in the Bible over 7000 times or whatever can't be removed in the first place. Understand that and bring the thread to a close.

Had the person who coined the name JEHOVAH never did. There will never be a name called JEHOVAH you won't be clamouring for the name JEHOVAH. You will not have a thread titled like a this.

MightySparrow:


All the same, I am convinced that JWs don't know God, but GB.

After all it is whatever their religious leaders termed God is what they know as God.

Janosky:

What's really wrong with these 3 doghead slaves?

You mean JEHOVAH is not in their KJV Bible @ Psalms 83:18 & Exodus 6:3?

You mean that "Jah" abbreviation of JEHOVAH in the expression "Hallelujah" , is not in all Bibles at Revelation19:1-4,6.

Common sense & honesty is NOT in anyone of you & your Trinity devotees.
LIARS and dishonest 3 doghead slaves plenty for this thread.
Very dishonest brood!
Tueh !!

Gbe oju re soke ko gba kelebe re so ju

LordReed:


Ok o, I don hear. LoL!

Imagine JWs too get leftovers. He started with the point that the statistics you presented is baseless and ended with the agreement that JWs indeed do have leftovers coming from failed marriages in their darling "RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION"

MightySparrow:


All the same, I am convinced that JWs don't know God, but GB.

Mr Sparrow LIENUS,
John 20:17, the God of Jesus is the God of JWs.

achorladey:


Imagine JWs too get leftovers. He started with the point that the statistics you presented is baseless and ended with the agreement that JWs indeed do have leftovers coming from failed marriages in their darling "RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION"

You are very stupid!

Janosky:


You are very stupid!

E pe le sir. E ti binu

Janosky:

Mr Sparrow LIENUS,
John 20:17, the God of Jesus is the God of JWs.

It's just a pity that many can't SEE why they need to recognize Jesus' brothers {Matthew 25:31-46} yet they think they're worshiping Jesus' God acceptably! John 20:17

when2:


When addressing your earthly father, do yo call him by his name?

I do,my father is my friend.
We are very close.

He is not a stern faced dictator which you may be used to in your own home.

MaxInDHouse:

Data when there are billions of atheists hiding their resolve compared to less than 9,000,000 claiming JWs.
Try to use your brains now?
How many people are out playing in the streets on Sundays without going to churches?
Or how many don't practice any form of worship at all?
Do you think they shouldn't be counted along with atheists?
So go back and do your statistics well because in the real sense there are more atheists hiding amongst Churchgoers, Muslims even in the gatherings of JWs but afraid of publicly declaring their resolve.
Even here on Nairaland, how many do you think is known in their neighbourhood as atheists if not here on FACELESS SOCIAL MEDIA?

When the statistics don't dance to your tune the next step is to DISCARD or DISCREDIT it.

Janosky:

I do,my father is my friend.
We are very close.

He is not a stern faced dictator which you may be used to in your own home.

Being a stern faced dictator is not the reason why we are not calling our earthly father by their personal names

Don't hide under that cover. The relationship you build from your cradle to adulthood started by calling him Dad, papa, father. No dey hide under stern face. Your father remains your father not a friend or pal

MaxInDHouse:

Data when there are billions of atheists hiding their resolve compared to less than 9,000,000 claiming JWs.
Try to use your brains now?
How many people are out playing in the streets on Sundays without going to churches?
Or how many don't practice any form of worship at all?
Do you think they shouldn't be counted along with atheists?
So go back and do your statistics well because in the real sense there are more atheists hiding amongst Churchgoers, Muslims even in the gatherings of JWs but afraid of publicly declaring their resolve.
Even here on Nairaland, how many do you think is known in their neighbourhood as atheists if not here on FACELESS SOCIAL MEDIA?

Does he have to be told his atheists standard of open marriage must result in divorce of any JWs marriage?

The stupid WAILER dey corner dey console himself.

achorladey:


Being a stern faced dictator is not the reason why we are not calling our earthly father by their personal names

Don't hide under that cover. The relationship you build from your cradle to adulthood started by calling in Dad, papa, father. No dey hide under stern face. Your father remains your father not a friend or pal

You can not change my family experience which you have never been part of & can NEVER be.
Achorladey continue WAILING.