Abeg has anyone gotten a logical explanation for that Saka's disallowed goal? Or we just have to accept it's offside because VAR says so and VAR couldn't show us any footage that suggests offside?

BlueRayDick:


You ended up missing the whole point. I can bring out Ur posts as recent as early this season still berating the board for not adding to our midfield options. You balantly disagreed with those of us who concurred with the board that signing Gabriel was a step in the right direction.

That same midfield u claimed not be good enough and given less priority ahead of the defence ; it's that same midfield u suddenly tell us is the next best thing after slice bread? Haba!

The board fi illy signed more defenders and u + kokane + Akin trolled the club with " defence wins u league mantra"

How u expect us to just look away now while u praise that same midfield beats me. On this one I no go gree o . U saw Smith-Rowe last season, Odegaard, Partey and even Mitland-Niles yet u no gree say dem dey decent enough.....why the change of heart? Can't u just accept the new defensive shape of the team has improved everyone?

We still need midfielder ESR and partey stepped up yet you can't see their importance that is why I praise the midfield
And no fvcking defence, I repeat no defence win you league
All na scam, how did you guys even believe that shít

iamoyindamola:

When midfield is working you will see the impact, this is the summary of strengthen your midfield and watch the rest of the department blossom.
See the way we were less disturb today

Very simple to understand

iamoyindamola:

We still need midfielder ESR and partey stepped up yet you can't see their importance that is why I praise the midfield
And no fvcking defence, I repeat no defence win you league
All na scam, how did you guys even believe that shít

you think say we for win this match if our CB na Mustafi and Mari, with bellerin and kolasinac as our fullbacks

Lol... I no even reason say my ESR joint top highest goal scorer praise go bring back old debates .
But lemme add my own opinion

Even tho I'm an advocate of improved defence and attack, but you see this particular season, na our defence dey carry us dey where we dey so.

Let me break my thoughts Down

The forward line of Auba is not as effective as Arteta first season or Emery's. Saka even tho he's giving okay performances, he's not at the top height we know him as. Lacazette have been okay but he's still lacking the goals. No make me call Pepe for here abeg or martinelli who hasn't been given many chances to shine

Midfield of Smith Rowe have been the shining star and outstanding performance no doubt, but partey even tho he shows his class is still somehow inconsistent. Lokonga is still too raw but at least he tries in matches in terms of mobility and recycling. Odegaard isn't even at the level of last season when we(or I ) even expected an improvement from last season. The rest of Xhaka, elneny and Amn is N/A ratings

Defence. Tomiyasu has been excellent (nobody have talked any bad about him)

Gabriel have been boss. Will easily walk into any top4 team(note not top 6 o)

White have been good too with aerial balls and interceptions.

Tavarez nko?... A revelation to behold while Tierney haven't been too bad, even tho he's dropped form compared to last season

Ramsdale... The king of the bunch alongside Gabriel. In fact, this five ensured we have clean sheets upon clean sheets in matches

iamoyindamola:

We still need midfielder ESR and partey stepped up yet you can't see their importance that is why I praise the midfield
And no fvcking defence, I repeat no defence win you league
All na scam, how did you guys even believe that shít

You just keep deflecting from the question. Partey has always played well, same with Smith-Rowe. They didn't start playing well this season. If Smith-Rowe didn't play well last season he won't be in the team as a starter this season.

My question is very very simple yet u have failed to answer it. Partey, Smith-Rowe, Odegaard were all here last season yet u believe except the board splashes more cash on our midfield options we will amount to nothing. That same midfield with addition of decent defenders is doing well for the time being.

It won't cost a thing to acknowledge how ball playing CB like white has been helping us break opponent's press, how rock solid CB like Gabriel has jumped into challenges and snuffing out opposition attacking moves, how Tomiyasu has helped on the right hand side Bellerin and Chambers have always left to suffer.....

This Ur midfield agenda no just work on this one at all.

I remember trying to explain over and over gain that when Gabriel was signed we also got Partey in midfield to balance things up, but u people will not listen. Una just dey propagate una midfield agenda upandan like say na only midfield be the only position the club must spend Money on.

Jodera:
Lol... I no even reason say my ESR joint top highest goal scorer praise go bring back old debates .
But lemme add my own opinion

Even tho I'm an advocate of improved defence and attack, but you see this particular season, na our defence dey carry us dey where we dey so.

Let me break my thoughts Down

The forward line of Auba is not as effective as Arteta first season or Emery's. Saka even tho he's giving okay performances, he's not at the top height we know him as. Lacazette have been okay but he's still lacking the goals. No make me call Pepe for here abeg or martinelli who hasn't been given many chances to shine

Midfield of Smith Rowe have been the shining star and outstanding performance no doubt, but partey even tho he shows his class is still somehow inconsistent. Lokonga is still too raw but at least he tries in matches in terms of mobility and recycling. Odegaard isn't even at the level of last season when we(or I ) even expected an improvement from last season. The rest of Xhaka, elneny and Amn is N/A ratings

Defence. Tomiyasu has been excellent (nobody have talked any bad about him)

Gabriel have been boss. Will easily walk into any top4 team(note not top 6 o)

White have been good too with aerial balls and interceptions.

Tavarez nko?... A revelation to behold while Tierney haven't been too bad, even tho he's dropped form compared to last season

Ramsdale... The king of the bunch alongside Gabriel. In fact, this five ensured we have clean sheets upon clean sheets in matches

Now the real questions

1... How many times have any of us feared that opposition will score through spamming crosses, corners or free kick cross? Not me

2... How many of us have feared that our defenders wants to pass from back and they would concede a monumental error? Not me.

3... How many times have we scored early in the first half and defend throughout the 2nd half and lost the game? Leicester, Tottenham, Aston villa, even Brighton too. Aside crystal palace (which we drew).

Na only Smith Rowe done score more than one goal from midfield.

Odegaard against Burnley, na defence preserve that score
Auba against Norwich, na still defence preserve the score.

Na only this match (Watford) naim I'll say our midfield won the match from beginning to end

BlueRayDick:


You just keep deflecting from the question. Partey has always played well, same with Smith-Rowe. They didn't start playing well this season. If Smith-Rowe didn't play well last season he won't be in the team as a starter this season.

My question is very very simple yet u have failed to answer it. Partey, Smith-Rowe, Odegaard were all here last season yet u believe except the board splashes more cash on our midfield options we will amount to nothing. That same midfield with addition of decent defenders is doing well for the time being.

It won't cost a thing to acknowledge how ball playing CB like white has been helping us break opponent's press, how rock solid CB like Gabriel has jumped into challenges and snuffing out opposition attacking moves, how Tomiyasu has helped on the right hand side Bellerin and Chambers have always left to suffer.....

This Ur midfield agenda no just work on this one at all.

I remember trying to explain over and over gain that when Gabriel was signed we also got Partey in midfield to balance things up, but u people will not listen. Una just dey propagate una midfield agenda upandan like say na only midfield be the only position the club must spend Money on.

What is your question cos I don't understand

BlueRayDick:
Abeg has anyone gotten a logical explanation for that Saka's disallowed goal? Or we just have to accept it's offside because VAR says so and VAR couldn't show us any footage that suggests offside?

Lol... I still dey browse on am

Jodera:


Now the real questions

1... How many times have any of us feared that opposition will score through spamming crosses, corners or free kick cross? Not me

2... How many of us have feared that our defenders wants to pass from back and they would concede a monumental error? Not me.

3... How many times have we scored early in the first half and defend throughout the 2nd half and lost the game? Leicester, Tottenham, Aston villa, even Brighton too. Aside crystal palace (which we drew).

Na only Smith Rowe done score more than one goal from midfield.

Odegaard against Burnley, na defence preserve that score
Auba against Norwich, na still defence preserve the score.

Na only this match (Watford) naim I'll say our midfield won the match from beginning to end

You know we have had it so bad from Leno to the defence but the midfield was the worst
Now we are having it going well and I decided to remind us the importance of good midfield Una wan claim na defence
Defence way be say na joint work

BlueRayDick:


Complaining won't change anything ; every team has its designated PK taker. Auba is Arsenal's the same way Chelsea has Jorginho, man utd before ororo had Penandez, etc. PK takers score some and lose some, it's normal. Na make the lose no plenty pass scored be koko. Today certainly is not Auba's day.

Not really complaining. Just saying that Auba should please improve in his pk conversion so that it won't hunt us esp wen it's very crucial

In epl, He's played 14 penalties and missed 5. That's the reason I'm afraid cos my mind dey always jolt

iamoyindamola:

You know we have had it so bad from Leno to the defence but the midfield was the worst
Now we are having it going well and I decided to remind us the importance of good midfield Una wan claim na defence
Defence way be say na joint work

Lol, even the joint work been dey against man city and Chelsea na but we still dey collect.

Joint work no dey wen lukaku bully Mari, abi Cedric miss leg against man city?

Me I sure say man city fit beat us again, but you see this Chelsea? Dem no go find am easy if all these guys (esp the defence dey)

What I'm really happy is that ESR have added goals to his game. I pray saka adds too and partey chips in once in a while.

As for the defence, I'm happy

iamoyindamola:

What is your question cos I don't understand

Okay here's my question HOW DID THE MIDFIELD U'VE ALWAYS CLAIMED WAS NOT GIVEN PRIORITY OVER OTHER POSITION SUDDENLY IMPROVES OUR GENERAL PLAY ; WHEN NO SERIOUS OVERHAUL WAS DONE IN THE LAST ONE YEAR OTHER THAN MORE DEFENDERS ADDED TO THE TEAM?

BlueRayDick:


Okay here's my question HOW DID THE MIDFIELD U'VE ALWAYS CLAIMED WAS NOT GIVEN PRIORITY OVER OTHER POSITION SUDDENLY IMPROVES OUR GENERAL PLAY ; WHEN NO SERIOUS OVERHAUL WAS DONE IN THE LAST ONE YEAR OTHER THAN MORE DEFENDERS ADDED TO THE TEAM?

Are we still playing same formation?

BlueRayDick:


Okay here's my question HOW DID THE MIDFIELD U'VE ALWAYS CLAIMED WAS NOT GIVEN PRIORITY OVER OTHER POSITION SUDDENLY IMPROVES OUR GENERAL PLAY ; WHEN NO SERIOUS OVERHAUL WAS DONE IN THE LAST ONE YEAR OTHER THAN MORE DEFENDERS ADDED TO THE TEAM?

They improved
Partey and Smith have always been class apart from other midfielder
Can you tell me why gabu was benched on his debut season and the CB you claimed were clowns played

Jodera:


Now the real questions

1... How many times have any of us feared that opposition will score through spamming crosses, corners or free kick cross? Not me

2... How many of us have feared that our defenders wants to pass from back and they would concede a monumental error? Not me.

3... How many times have we scored early in the first half and defend throughout the 2nd half and lost the game? Leicester, Tottenham, Aston villa, even Brighton too. Aside crystal palace (which we drew).

Na only Smith Rowe done score more than one goal from midfield.

Odegaard against Burnley, na defence preserve that score
Auba against Norwich, na still defence preserve the score.

Na only this match (Watford) naim I'll say our midfield won the match from beginning to end

God bless u for this. This Watford match can best be described in statistics as an outlier; and na him my guy iamoyindamola wan use do the base of his agenda but e no fit work today. Against Leicester when the defence + Ramsdale did evwryting possible to repel Leicester's attempts he no talk. The other matches as well we had the defence to thank for helping us consolidate the work of the other deparments I no hear any agenda, na just this Watford match I come dey here nigbati, nigbati......

There's a reason our player of the month for spetember was a defender and our October player of the month will most likely be a goalkeeper. Presently our strength lies in the backline and that's that. Any other thing na agenda

kokanepyramid:

Are we still playing same formation?

Well, the same coach that's been chided for bringing in defenders instead of midfielders changed the formation I guess

kokanepyramid:

Are we still playing same formation?

No go there yet
Make we ask why chambers or Soares are not playing fullback
We were playing players out if position, midfield was xhaka and others, partey was injured
This same Gabriel was fit and yet overlooked by arteta for clowns

BlueRayDick:


God bless u for this. This Watford match can best be described in statistics as an outlier; and na him my guy iamoyindamola wan use do the base of his agenda but e no fit work today. Against Leicester when the defence + Ramsdale did evwryting possible to repel Leicester's attempts he no talk. The other matches as well we had the defence to thank for helping us consolidate the work of the other deparments I no hear any agenda, na just this Watford match I come dey here nigbati, nigbati......

There's a reason our player of the month for spetember was a defender and our October player of the month will most likely be a goalkeeper. Presently our strength lies in the backline and that's that. Any other thing na agenda

You mean only white and gabu did the whole defending against Leicester?

iamoyindamola:

They improved
Partey and Smith have always been class apart from other midfielder
Can you tell me why gabu was benched on his debut season and the CB you claimed were clowns played

So it's safe to say it's an error on Ur part to have written them off as being not good enough then. Right?

BlueRayDick:


So it's safe to say it's an error on Ur part to have written them off as being not good enough then. Right?

Lmao, how is it an error
Partey was injured last season, ESR showed his worth
Xhaka, elneny and the rest are shit
I still insist we need more midfielders

iamoyindamola:

You mean only white and gabu did the whole defending against Leicester?

Unfortunately for u, I didn't mention those two in my post. U can read it again for further confirmation. I mentioned the keeper and the entire defence.

The fact that our defenders are getting praise from both fans and foes shows they are doing something right. If u choose not to acknowledge that, then that's Ur decision

iamoyindamola:

You mean only white and gabu did the whole defending against Leicester?

This why I said avoid the temptation making this about one player. This is about the defense, the entire back and the goalie. According to you, the midfield has had more influence than the defense this season. I am very careful not to personalize this argument, I think I mentioned that before.

iamoyindamola:

You mean only white and gabu did the whole defending against Leicester?

tavarez, Tomi and Ramsdale nko?

BlueRayDick:


Unfortunately for u, I didn't mention those two in my post. U can read it again for further confirmation. I mentioned the keeper and the entire defence.

The fact that our defenders are getting praise from both fans and foes shows they are doing something right. If u choose not to acknowledge that, then that's Ur decision

You didn't answer why gabu was overlooked ahead of the clowns last season

Jodera:
tavarez, Tomi and Ramsdale nko?

But when I said joint defending I was seeing gabu name pop up
Partey was also defending with auba pressing from the top

BlueRayDick:


Unfortunately for u, I didn't mention those two in my post. U can read it again for further confirmation. I mentioned the keeper and the entire defence.

The fact that our defenders are getting praise from both fans and foes shows they are doing something right. If u choose not to acknowledge that, then that's Ur decision

We are praising our defenders as being the stability behind the run this season. We are parading pretty much the same midfielders whether formation changed or not, so what’s the difference?

iamoyindamola:

But when I said joint defending I was seeing gabu name pop up
Partey was also defending with auba pressing from the top

Is it wrong to ascribe the leadership of that back 4 to Gabu? Every back 4/ defensive unit has its leader.

iamoyindamola:

Lmao, how is it an error
Partey was injured last season, ESR showed his worth
Xhaka, elneny and the rest are shit
I still insist we need more midfielders

I guess Mitland-Niles is shiiit too and Lokonga the error prone understudy for Xhaka. But just today u were using their midfield partnership as a reference point for midfield gospel na.

The kind amala wey u dey turn, even OYO people go fear u

Roland17:


This why I said avoid the temptation making this about one player. This is about the defense, the entire back and the goalie. According to you, the midfield has had more influence than the defense this season. I am very careful not to personalize this argument, I think I mentioned that before.

Defence
Who are the defence?
Anyone can pick up the job to defend and track back but can every player do the job of turning defence to attack?
This is the work of partey, ESR and odeegaard which I acknowledged over and over again

iamoyindamola:

You didn't answer why gabu was overlooked ahead of the clowns last season

You are making this about Gabu and if we go that route you will still be wrong.. massively.. We saw White with Mari and we have seen White with Gabu.

BlueRayDick:




I guess Mitland-Niles is shiiit too and Lokonga the error prone understudy for Xhaka. But just today u were using their midfield partnership as a reference point for midfield gospel na.

The kind amala wey u dey turn, even OYO people go fear u

That's the problem here I asked you if you were judging with today's game that's why I included partey and ódegaard
But you were hell bent on today game that's why I showed you how amn won the motm