The Nigerian troops have killed four SWAP terrorists at Ngwom community in Mafa Local Government Area, of Borno state on Tuesday evening.

PRNigeria gathered that the terrorists had sneaked into town the town on six gun trucks through a cattle crossing point within Mafa axis at about 6:50 pm.

While the mission of the insurgents was not clear, there is a military formation on the axis.

A military intelligence told PRNigeria that the troops from the 195 Battalion Operation Hadin Kai in Jere were mobilised after receiving an alert on the movement of terrorists in the town.

“The troops from a Taskforce Battalion in Jere engaged the terrorists in the gun battle and eliminated some of them.

“As of now, we have counted four corpses of the invaders as we are still pursuing them and following the track of blood in the bush.

“After our clearance operation on their escape routes, by tomorrow morning may detailed updates can be provided,” the source concluded.

PRNigeria

iblawi:





Am sure we have received close to 400 APCs this year alone if we add locally produced ones. We have not even talked of the old ones already in use and It's normal to expect more with this year's supplementary budget.

Secondly, We have less than 20,000 troops fighting in North East.
This procurement is a major one for men in frontline and not a drop in the ocean as you claimed.

You can't have all troops in APCs. If you add 400 APCs to what we have already am sure we should be able to move about half in protected vehicle if need be.

It seems your still using DOS when we are even moving beyond windows10.

The landscape of modern day conflict and security has completely changed in the last two decades.

Criminals are using military grade weaponry across the world, insurgencies and Islamic terrorism have gone global.

Police forces that are forward thinking have upgraded and upscaled to meet the modern day threats. The modern day police forces are more like military units. Equipped with HMG, MRAPS, LAV's, Mortars and Grenade launchers, Rockets, etc.

Now let's talk about armed forces.

Before Afghanistan the standard basic armoured transport in the British Army was the Snatch Land rover. That's totally changed as the threats that we have to mitigate against have changed. So have the British armed forces had to adapt and change. Upscale and overtake the enemy to mitigate against him.

The standard operating vehicles are now an array of MRAPS, LAV's, APC's, IFV's , etc . You will NEVER see modern day combatants going in to the battle front in soft skinned vehicles.

This is a trend that's not unique to the British but all modern day forward thinking and proactive modern day armed forces across the world..

What's out biggest problems in this particular insurgency raging across the Northern parts of Nigeria. In multiple locations with different murderous active groups.

Where have we suffered the most UNACCEPTABLE casualties , On the ground. I speculate, but I'll not believe any official government figures . I truly believe we have lost thousands of our valued and gallant combatants .

France initiated operation Serval then Barkhan that's about 8 years of operations to date not more than 70 French combatants lost.

British soldiers deployed over 20 years in Afghanistan exceed 150,000 in in that period actual casualties 500 in two decades of bloody fighting.

Why are the NA casualties so high , ambushes, IED's, direct engagement, etc.

But at the heart of it is "not fit for purpose vehicle" soft skinned pick up trucks , dumpsters , trucks, etc. It's apparent that a higher % of our combatants go into highly contested zones in " not fit for purpose" vehicles, in my estimation 90%. The result of this ineptitude is easily predictable.

When you are in a soft skinned pick up truck , your ability to engage the enemy is SEVERELY LIMITED. Why you are always going to suffer casualties in any engagement. Indeed it means you be will not be inclined to carry out search and destroy missions.


Therein is your problem as well as your solution.


So buying a few hundred MRAPS , APC 's , is simply not GOOD ENOUGH.

And its not because we cannot afford it , but we simply don't use best value and greatest impact delivery in making procurement decisions. I don't want to believe that the NA don't know what I know.

A brand new soft skinned Toyota pickup LC79( gun truck) , with modifications can cost up to $60k maybe more. Even a brand new HiLux can cost up to $40k. How many have we bought in the last 5 years probably 10,000. of Which within 2/3 years most are inoperable after being battle scarred.

That same money I would have put to FAR FAR better use and got 5'000 armoured vehicle in varied platforms for the same money.

The question is using a bit of ingeniuity and a more strategic approach to procurement and best value. How many Armoured platforms could I procure, on different variations MRAP, APC, LAV, IFV , Could I get at least 2000. Over the past 6 years we would have 5000 and armoured vehicles will be the ABSOLUTE STANDARD VEHICLE for our very valued combatants.

This is not wishful thinking but I can absolutely substantiate my deductions.

So I am TOTALLY DISSATISFIED by our shambolic and ineptitude where military vehicles procurement is concerned. In this regard, NIGERIA NO TRY AT ALL. I will not commend ineptitude you may but not me.

youghs:


What the heck is this bro
Komekn has hacked this account

Do you know that intelligence rests with the minority not the majority.

To the one who knows NOTHING even when the WISE give advice he thinks it is FOOLISHNESS.

The bliss of ignorance.

Really now? so you can't tell he's making a mockery?
I don't care what you are, even if you are straight and you keep stressing it, my response would have been the same.
and yes Gay people still get harrassed here, one happened just yesterday while i was on the train.
I'm not saying don't be gay, who cares, I've had gay tenants, so I'm secure in my own way.
I'm saying this is not the place for continuous repetition of it, you can't get that?

seankafor:
can you say this to a gay American over there in the states you are

komekn:


It seems your still using DOS when we are even moving beyond windows10.

The landscape of modern day conflict and security has completely changed in the last two decades.

Criminals are using military grade weaponry across the world, insurgencies and Islamic terrorism have gone global.

Police forces that are forward thinking have upgraded and upscaled to meet the modern day threats. The modern day police forces are more like military units. Equipped with HMG, MRAPS, LAV's, Mortars and Grenade launchers, Rockets, etc.

Now let's talk about armed forces.

Before Afghanistan the standard basic armoured transport in the British Army was the Snatch Land rover. That's totally changed as the threats that we have to mitigate against have changed. So have the British armed forces had to adapt and change. Upscale and overtake the enemy to mitigate against him.

The standard operating vehicles are now an array of MRAPS, LAV's, APC's, IFV's , etc . You will NEVER see modern day combatants going in to the battle front in soft skinned vehicles.

This is a trend that's not unique to the British but all modern day forward thinking and proactive modern day armed forces across the world..

What's out biggest problems in this particular insurgency raging across the Northern parts of Nigeria. In multiple locations with different murderous active groups.

Where have we suffered the most UNACCEPTABLE casualties , On the ground. I speculate, but I'll not believe any official government figures . I truly believe we have lost thousands of our valued and gallant combatants .

France initiated operation Serval then Barkhan that's about 8 years of operations to date not more than 70 French combatants lost.

British soldiers deployed over 20 years in Afghanistan exceed 150,000 in in that period actual casualties 500 in two decades of bloody fighting.

Why are the NA casualties so high , ambushes, IED's, direct engagement, etc.

But at the heart of it is "not fit for purpose vehicle" soft skinned pick up trucks , dumpsters , trucks, etc. It's apparent that a higher % of our combatants go into highly contested zones in " not fit for purpose" vehicles, in my estimation 90%. The result of this ineptitude is easily predictable.

When you are in a soft skinned pick up truck , your ability to engage the enemy is SEVERELY LIMITED. Why you are always going to suffer casualties in any engagement. Indeed it means you be will not be inclined to carry out search and destroy missions.


Therein is your problem as well as your solution.


So buying a few hundred MRAPS , APC 's , is simply not GOOD ENOUGH.

And its not because we cannot afford it , but we simply don't use best value and greatest impact delivery in making procurement decisions. I don't want to believe that the NA don't know what I know.

A brand new soft skinned Toyota pickup LC79( gun truck) , with modifications can cost up to $60k maybe more. Even a brand new HiLux can cost up to $40k. How many have we bought in the last 5 years probably 10,000. of Which within 2/3 years most are inoperable after being battle scarred.

That same money I would have put to FAR FAR better use and got 5'000 armoured vehicle in varied platforms for the same money.

The question is using a bit of ingeniuity and a more strategic approach to procurement and best value. How many Armoured platforms could I procure, on different variations MRAP, APC, LAV, IFV , Could I get at least 2000. Over the past 6 years we would have 5000 and armoured vehicles will be the ABSOLUTE STANDARD VEHICLE for our very valued combatants.

This is not wishful thinking but I can absolutely substantiate my deductions.

So I am TOTALLY DISSATISFIED by our shambolic and ineptitude where military vehicles procurement is concerned. In this regard, NIGERIA NO TRY AT ALL. I will not commend ineptitude you may but not me.

Ok sir

Sizzorkay:
Really now? so you can't tell he's making a mockery?
I don't care what you are, even if you are straight and you keep stressing it, my response would have been the same.
and yes Gay people still get harrassed here, one happened just yesterday while i was on the train.
I'm not saying don't be gay, who cares, I've had gay tenants, so I'm secure in my own way.
I'm saying this is not the place for continuous repetition of it, you can't get that?

Don't mind Seankafor.... Babaowen is good at derailing... I wonder what brings sexual life into a military thread...
He wants change, he should meet his representatives, or na here Dem dey make laws

The house of representatives has summoned Mohammed Bello, the minister of the federal capital territory (FCT), over the insecurity in Abuja.

The resolution was passed during a plenary session on Tuesday after the adoption of a motion of urgent public importance moved by Toby Okechukwu, deputy minority leader of the house.

The nation’s capital has seen a surge in the activities of gunmen in recent weeks.

While leading the debate on the motion, Okechukwu told his colleagues that urgent steps must be taken to protect lives and property in the FCT.

He also lamented the dilapidated state of infrastructure in the country’s capital, noting that even streetlights have been left unrepaired.

“Abuja has never been as unsafe as it is today due, among others, to the influx of bandits and other criminals, lack of modern security infrastructures in the city centre and the satellite towns, and non-maintenance of available ones, including CCTV installations and as little as streetlights,” he said.

“There are concerns that the poor city management bedevilling the FCT is resulting in obvious disorderliness and widespread deterioration, with serious concern the indiscriminate allocation of lands without a matching infrastructural development; and acute lack of infrastructure in the satellite towns and the resort by tax-paying citizens to self-help in territory that should ordinarily model rural development in Nigeria.”

The lawmaker also accused the FCT administration of allocating lands in green areas “in clear breach of the FCT Master Plan”.

“Concerned about the worsening poor waste management practice in the FCT, including dearth and poor maintenance of waste treatment plants, despite Minister of State, FCT’s claim of N8 billion annual expenditure on waste management in the FCT,” he said.

“Also worried about the far-reaching consequences of the absence of a full complement of the FCTA’s administrative structures for about two years since the appointment of the FCT minister, including the non-appointment of mandate secretaries, equivalents of commissioners at state level, to form the FCT executive council.”

The motion was unanimously adopted after it was put to a voice vote by Femi Gbajabiamila, speaker of the house.

https://www.thecable.ng/abuja-has-never-been-this-unsafe-reps-summon-fct-minister-over-insecurity

Rumours has it that the Nigerian Navy has chosen Type 054 frigate its main frigate.

I repeat, it's just a RUMOUR. We can only Speculate bout this.

Armed men suspected to be bandits have attacked a team of policemen in Zonai village in Magami district, Gusau Local Government Area of Zamfara State, killing at least seven officers.

The incident, which occurred on Tuesday, left residents in panic over fear of attack on the community.

According to residents, the officers were returning from duty where they had mounted, a checkpoint near Zonai village along Gusau-Magami-Dansadau following frequent attacks on the community.

Details of the incident were still sketchy as of press time.

When contacted by DAILY POST, the Zamfara State Police Public Relations Officer, SP Muhammad Shehu was unable to speak on the incident, saying “I will call you back later”.

DAILY POST reports that Zamfara is one of the states in Northern Nigeria that has suffered insecurity in recent times following the activities of the bloodthirsty bandits.

https://dailypost.ng/2021/11/09/bandits-open-fire-on-police-team-in-zamfara-gun-down-7-officers/

DubaiLandLord1:

“Abuja has never been as unsafe as it is today due, among others, to the influx of bandits and other criminals, lack of modern security infrastructures in the city centre and the satellite towns, and non-maintenance of available ones, including CCTV installations and as little as streetlights,” he said.


https://www.thecable.ng/abuja-has-never-been-this-unsafe-reps-summon-fct-minister-over-insecurity

Insecurity have never been this terrible in Nigeria

GeneralFarouq:

Don't mind Seankafor.... Babaowen is good at derailing... I wonder what brings sexual life into a military thread...
He wants change, he should meet his representatives, or na here Dem dey make laws

BabaOwen na my old account, abeg. This one na the new me, mister man.

RiceProducers:


See how useless the SU25s and SU27s are?. I stopped arguing these issues because I found some people were just stuck on some old doctrines of warfare and the 'durability' of soviet equipment. Some guys would even have called the Ethiopian Airforce stronger than Nigeria's because of SU27s.

Hello Ethiopia, sensors are everything. Buy ISR gear. Look for supply lines to the rebels and bomb them. Use special forces creatively.
Converting information from as many sensors as possible into a broad picture of the battle space is the only way to do modern warfare.
You would be able to dodge the flanking moves and the feints. See where the enemy is hiding and determine what his objectives really are.

No.Just.No. These are but platforms to be used in conjunction with other aerial platforms, UAVs,choppers all led by a proper battleground software,iow, realtime intel and proper tactical doctrines all executed by properly trained and equipped and motivated fighters. They could have a squadron of B 52s,but without an effective warfighting philosphy,what the US calls TTPs,Tactics,Techniques and Protocols they're as useless as a fleet of okadas!

komekn:


Do you know that intelligence rests with the minority not the majority.

To the one who knows NOTHING even when the WISE give advice he thinks it is FOOLISHNESS.

The bliss of ignorance.

No vex sir.
Ikorodu Albert Einstein

Nigeria orders Turkish OPVs
by Cem Devrim Yaylali Nov 8, 2021, 15:20 PM



The Nigerian Navy signed a contract with the Turkish shipyard Dearsan covering the delivery of two new 76 m offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) on 3 November.

It released a video of the signing ceremony during which Chief of the Naval Staff Vice Admiral Awwal Gambo said the order is a milestone in achieving the navy's 2021–2030 strategic plan. He described the OPVs as high-endurance vessels capable of maritime interdiction, surveillance, special forces operations, search and rescue, disaster relief, and providing fire support to land forces.

“Dearsan Shipyard was selected based on its track record and the conviction that the shipyard would be able to construct a platform that could be deployed as an OPV in peacetime, while having the capability and flexibility to be quickly outfitted with sensors and weapons to re-role the platform for warfare and maritime defence purposes at a cost-effective price,” he said.

The Nigerian media reported that both OPVs are expected to be delivered within 37 months.

In a statement, Dearsan said the ships will be based on its OPV 76 design, configured according to Nigeria's requirements, built entirely at the shipyard's facilities, and equipped with Turkish systems.

When contacted by Janes , Dearson provided specifications for the Nigerian ships that were slightly larger than the ones listed on its website for the OPV 76. While their length remains the same at 76.8 m, they will have a beam of 12 m rather than 11 m, a draft of 3.3 m rather than 2.9 m, a displacement of 1,250 tonnes rather than the 1,100 tonnes, and a crew of 47 rather than 43.


https://www.janes.com/amp/nigeria-orders-turkish-opvs/ZnlJK3dHVU9mZ28xajRJVkc5dVI5VFp1cVMwPQ2

According to Dearsan's post on Linkedin on 3 October, the Turkish shipyard has secured an agreement with the Nigerian Navy to build two offshore patrol vessels.
Naval News Staff 05 Nov 2021

Dearsan stated on the social media:

“Our Shipyard will build 2 units of 76 m OPV (76 meter Offshore Patrol Vessel) within the scope of the contract signed with the Nigerian Navy. The OPV’s, which have been configured in line with the Nigerian Navy requirements, will be designed and build entirely within our shipyard’s capabilities and equipped with indigenous systems.”


The vessels are scheduled to be delivered to the Nigerian Navy within 37 months.

The ships will be outfitted with indigenous sensors and systems, according to the agreement, but the details of the systems and subcontractors have not been disclosed by the signatories.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/11/turkeys-dearsan-shipyard-to-build-2-opvs-for-the-nigerian-navy/

youghs:


No vex sir.
Ikorodu Albert Einstein

I take exception to your jibe.

Please replace Ikorodu with WARRI.

Footage from falcon eye system

https://twitter.com/Jakepor21/status/1458423711560777738?t=IYEs4ZYkrkL2lVfZoZr2SQ&s=19



Only a matter of time before this is replicated on land too, it is a far cheaper than any sort of fence. The damages that the porosity of our borders has done is enormous.

Whyem15:
Footage from falcon eye system

https://twitter.com/Jakepor21/status/1458423711560777738?t=IYEs4ZYkrkL2lVfZoZr2SQ&s=19



Only a matter of time before this is replicated on land too, it is a far cheaper than any sort of fence. The damages that the porosity of our borders has done is enormous.

This is the way to secure our borders no building fences, Africa is not Europe. We should be able to integrate and prosper that how wealth is created

dragon2:
According to Dearsan's post on Linkedin on 3 October, the Turkish shipyard has secured an agreement with the Nigerian Navy to build two offshore patrol vessels.
Naval News Staff 05 Nov 2021

Dearsan stated on the social media:

“Our Shipyard will build 2 units of 76 m OPV (76 meter Offshore Patrol Vessel) within the scope of the contract signed with the Nigerian Navy. The OPV’s, which have been configured in line with the Nigerian Navy requirements, will be designed and build entirely within our shipyard’s capabilities and equipped with indigenous systems.”


The vessels are scheduled to be delivered to the Nigerian Navy within 37 months.

The ships will be outfitted with indigenous sensors and systems, according to the agreement, but the details of the systems and subcontractors have not been disclosed by the signatories.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/11/turkeys-dearsan-shipyard-to-build-2-opvs-for-the-nigerian-navy/

Nigerian Navy should ask for this ship killer to be installed on these OPVs

https://www.edrmagazine.eu/roketsan-the-atmaca-missile-family-grows

Whyem15:
Footage from falcon eye system

https://twitter.com/Jakepor21/status/1458423711560777738?t=IYEs4ZYkrkL2lVfZoZr2SQ&s=19



Only a matter of time before this is replicated on land too, it is a far cheaper than any sort of fence. The damages that the porosity of our borders has done is enormous.

Rather than buying thousands of IFVs, APCs and tanks and other vehicles that will not only be extremely expensive to purchase and maintain, force multipliers such as sensors like this, a few attack helicopters in each state, full artillery coverage across country, military satellites and other ISR equipment both manned and unmanned in reasonable quantities and tackling arms smuggling across borders with some of these systems will achieve a far better result with far lesser cost. All of the above doesn't make obsolete the capabilities that IFVs and other land systems offer but for a country heavily reliant on borrowing to finance its budget, it is a foolishness to get thousands of such systems at a time.

for now, a few heavily armed mechanized Battalion in each state and more in the hot zones is enough, they will be adequately provided with CAS whenever going on any mission and will only be used for offensive actions, other troops or law enforcement personnels can then move in to secure the ground or whatever else is needed.

By
Tijjani Ibrahim
Wed, 10 Nov 2021 10:59:21 GMT

Many people are feared killed and properties burnt down in fresh attacks on communities in Batsari Local Government Area of Katsina State.

The attack, which reportedly began Tuesday evening and lasted into the early hours of Wednesday, saw dozens of houses including government structures and vehicles set ablaze.

Witnesses said no fewer than five communities were struck by the armed men, where a yet to be ascertained number of people were either killed or injured.

“In each of the communities invaded, the gunmen fired sporadically into the air to register their presence before going from house to house, looting victims of valuables and harassing residents,” a source said.

There were speculations that one of the victims killed in the attack was lawyer, one Barr. Nura Hassan Wagine but Daily Trust could not independently verify this.

The source added that several of the victims were trying to escape from the onslaught of the marauding gunmen when they sustained injuries.

When contacted, the Member representing Batsari in the Katsina State House of Assembly, Hon. Jabir Yauyau, said he heard about the unfortunate incidents, but still gathering information about what actually happened.

He added that details of what happened would be difficult to get for now, because of the lack of telecommunication network in the area.

“It is confirmed that the attack took place, but the casualties and the extent of damage caused is not yet known, especially because of the lack of mobile network in the area.”

“I am told about the majority of those killed. They are people I know personally, but I still need to confirm.

“I am trying to ascertain what actually happen because I am going to move a motion on matters of public importance in the house, but I have to get the actual thing,” he said.

As at the time of filling in this report, spokesperson of the Katsina State Police Command, SP Gambo Isah, had not confirmed the incident.

https://dailytrust.com/breaking-many-feared-killed-as-gunmen-launch-house-to-house-raid-in-katsina

Bandits no do 1% of wetin fulani militias dey do before they were declared a terrorist group

Whyem15:
Footage from falcon eye system

https://twitter.com/Jakepor21/status/1458423711560777738?t=IYEs4ZYkrkL2lVfZoZr2SQ&s=19



Only a matter of time before this is replicated on land too, it is a far cheaper than any sort of fence. The damages that the porosity of our borders has done is enormous.

Fantastic.
I don't know why this is hard to replicate on land especially our northern border.

The terrain of the northern border is very friendly to systems like this cos they are majorly Flatlands.

The only place these systems might find it hard to function is our border with Cameroon which is made up of so many hills and mountains which would cause obstruction with regards to covering long distances.

no mind them

GeneralFarouq:

Don't mind Seankafor.... Babaowen is good at derailing... I wonder what brings sexual life into a military thread...
He wants change, he should meet his representatives, or na here Dem dey make laws

yep. that's the thing, catch a few people, magnify the capabilities in the media, and that put the fear of god into those thinking of committing such offense.
where i live, the moment one person suggests doing something illegal, the other respond with "we might get caught ", even though they could commit the crime and get away with it.
same with making profit and not paying tax on it, people instantly get scared and pay it. it's all about having the apparatus and letting the people be aware of its effectiveness
they think twice.

Whyem15:
Footage from falcon eye system

https://twitter.com/Jakepor21/status/1458423711560777738?t=IYEs4ZYkrkL2lVfZoZr2SQ&s=19



Only a matter of time before this is replicated on land too, it is a far cheaper than any sort of fence. The damages that the porosity of our borders has done is enormous.

Sizzorkay:
yep. that's the thing, catch a few people, magnify the capabilities in the media, and that put the fear of god into those thinking of committing such offense.
where i live, the moment one person suggests doing something illegal, the other respond with "we might get caught ", even though they could commit the crime and get away with it.
same with making profit and not paying tax on it, people instantly get scared and pay it. it's all about having the apparatus and letting the people be aware of its effectiveness
they think twice.

A lot of agencies will even benefit a lot from it, from customs, immigration, NAFDAC, NDLEA, SON, the police, the military etc.

Sizzorkay:
yep. that's the thing, catch a few people, magnify the capabilities in the media, and that put the fear of god into those thinking of committing such offense.
where i live, the moment one person suggests doing something illegal, the other respond with "we might get caught ", even though they could commit the crime and get away with it.
same with making profit and not paying tax on it, people instantly get scared and pay it. it's all about having the apparatus and letting the people be aware of its effectiveness
they think twice.

And this encapsulate what an honest society looks like. An honest society is one in which the state has in place mostly artificial mechanisms that forces "naturally" dishonest people to conform. As for who bells the cat, there are always enough honest people and mutual interests to act as guide and implementors until dishonest masses evolve to a level in which they begin to understand that dishonesty pays more in organized systems. This latter , bolded, exemplifies the situation of the Western nations Nigerians admire most and hold up as paragons of propriety.

Whyem15:




Rather than buying thousands of IFVs, APCs and tanks and [i] other vehicles that will not only be extremely expensive to purchase and maintain, [/i]force multipliers such as sensors like this, a few attack helicopters in each state, full artillery coverage across country, military satellites and other ISR equipment both manned and unmanned in reasonable quantities and tackling arms smuggling across borders with some of these systems will achieve a far better result with far lesser cost. All of the above doesn't make obsolete the capabilities that IFVs and other land systems offer but for a country heavily reliant on borrowing to finance its budget, it is a foolishness to get thousands of such systems at a time.

for now, a few heavily armed mechanized Battalion in each state and more in the hot zones is enough, they will be adequately provided with CAS whenever going on any mission and will only be used for offensive actions, other troops or law enforcement personnels can then move in to secure the ground or whatever else is needed.

Please don't speak from ASSUMPTIVE ignorance.

If you must make a proposition make it from a standpoint of knowledge and be substantive.

How much does one LC79 Toyota pick up cost or HiLux and or Ranger all upwards of $40k. What's the shelf life of these soft pick up trucks. After a fewengagements on the front , being punctured with AK47 rounds like a knife through butter. I have no statistics, but 6 months is probably the best. Imagine the money wasted on renewing these pick up by trucks every 6 months it thereabouts, they just get destroyed so easily.

So what you have is a penny wise pound FOOLISHNESS approach which personifies our. "Manage am like that" culture that pervades our society.

In this regard which would you rather be in , A refurbished Armoured platform that has far higher survivability rate, resilience against small arms fire, IED's, as well as being fit for purpose.

I could easily get 2/3 used but still very effective and capable armoured platform with real offensive capabilities for the cost of one LC79 soft skinned pick up truck . That destroys your poorly though out ASSUMPTIVE based proposition.

So we should ABSOLUTELY no excuse WHATSOEVER to allow our prized and valued combatants to be going in suicide soft skinned pick up trucks.

THERE IS NO EXCUSE.

Roan77:
I can't believe someone is seriously calling for Nigeria to buy 1,000 land cruiser trucks, when we're seriously clamoring the end of light skin vehicles in front lines.
Nawa oo.

Am enjoying this thread show with my mouth shut not saying a word, but am missing Bidexiii, so we pray he is well and not banned.

For that man's long tori like WAEC essay or NECO, some sense is in it but maybe his land cruiser Toyota 1,000 pick up is not NA soft skined 4 WD his own idea may be up armoured type like our own Proforce armoured land cruiser Toyota so he may be right, NA needs it for special forces or rapid deployment, hot pursuit and soft soil too weak for heavy apc, ifv, mraps. Please buy 1,000 from us we deliver on time, call our head prodn dept Ayo @ tel 08023890712

komekn:


Please don't speak from ASSUMPTIVE ignorance.

If you must make a proposition make it from a standpoint of knowledge and be substantive.

How much does one LC79 Toyota pick up cost or HiLux and or Ranger all upwards of $40k. What's the shelf life of these soft pick up trucks. After a fewengagements on the front , being punctured with AK47 rounds like a knife through butter. I have no statistics, but 6 months is probably the best. Imagine the money wasted on renewing these pick up by trucks every 6 months it thereabouts, they just get destroyed so easily.

So what you have is a penny wise pound FOOLISHNESS approach which personifies our. "Manage am like that" culture that pervades our society.

In this regard which would you rather be in , A refurbished Armoured platform that has far higher survivability rate, resilience against small arms fire, IED's, as well as being fit for purpose.

I could easily get 2/3 used but still very effective and capable armoured platform with real offensive capabilities for the cost of one LC79 soft skinned pick up truck . That destroys your poorly though out ASSUMPTIVE based proposition.

So we should ABSOLUTELY no excuse WHATSOEVER to allow our prized and valued combatants to be going in suicide soft skinned pick up trucks.

THERE IS NO EXCUSE.

I agree with you on this, we should never allow our troops go to operations with soft skin vehicles.

ChuksTalking:


Am enjoying this thread show with my mouth shut not saying a word, but am missing Bidexiii, so we pray he is well and not banned.

For that man's long tori like WAEC essay or NECO, some sense is in it but maybe his land cruiser Toyota 1,000 pick up is not NA soft skined 4 WD his own idea may be up armoured type like our own Proforce armoured land cruiser Toyota so he may be right, NA needs it for special forces or rapid deployment, hot pursuit and soft soil too weak for heavy apc, ifv, mraps. Please buy 1,000 from us we deliver on time, call our head prodn dept Ayo @ tel 08023890712

We have these trucks already in NE.

komekn:


Please don't speak from ASSUMPTIVE ignorance.

If you must make a proposition make it from a standpoint of knowledge and be substantive.

How much does one LC79 Toyota pick up cost or HiLux and or Ranger all upwards of $40k. What's the shelf life of these soft pick up trucks. After a fewengagements on the front , being punctured with AK47 rounds like a knife through butter. I have no statistics, but 6 months is probably the best. Imagine the money wasted on renewing these pick up by trucks every 6 months it thereabouts, they just get destroyed so easily.

So what you have is a penny wise pound FOOLISHNESS approach which personifies our. "Manage am like that" culture that pervades our society.

In this regard which would you rather be in , A refurbished Armoured platform that has far higher survivability rate, resilience against small arms fire, IED's, as well as being fit for purpose.

I could easily get 2/3 used but still very effective and capable armoured platform with real offensive capabilities for the cost of one LC79 soft skinned pick up truck . That destroys your poorly though out ASSUMPTIVE based proposition.

So we should ABSOLUTELY no excuse WHATSOEVER to allow our prized and valued combatants to be going in suicide soft skinned pick up trucks.

THERE IS NO EXCUSE.

Which part of "a few heavily armed mechanized Battalion in each state and more in hot zones to be used as assault force" is difficult for you to understand? Perhaps if I had substituted "mechanized"for "heavily armored" it would have been easier for you to comprehend. The bulk of the troops in the north east and other theaters of operations and the country at large are garrisoned and have more need for proper defensive structures than IFVs and other mechanized vehicles. It is exactly because we use most of the armored vehicles we have in defensive roles that we've lost many to enemy actions and attrition. We've lost more platforms to ISWAP attacks on military bases than on offensives.
If I am to be used to defend a town or any other settlement, I will prefer fortified structures such as pillboxes, redoubts, bunkers, towers, ditches, mine fields and weapons that can take out anything the enemy has to offer from a long range, grenade launchers, snipers, anti-material riffles etc than having only armored vehicles, of course a few armored vehicles will provide added advantage but heavily fortified settlements can make do without them and if I am to be used to attack the enemy, I will prefer being in armored platforms.
Now knowing that the vast majority of the personnels of the military will be used in defensive actions, of what economic advantage will the purchase of thousands of armored platforms be when many of the towns being defended lack basic defensive structures.