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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 4:53am On Nov 19, 2021
seankafor:
All of una wey wan take us back to the bribe taking era

He no go better for una angry

Really? After playing only 6 league matches all season? Who would you have dropped for him, justifiably?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 6:27am On Nov 19, 2021
Oasis001:
A tactically sound Coach has the Tools to succeed as Super Eagles Coach.

Maduka still gonna get picked ahead of Uzoho by any Coach as GK.

Backline..... Aina, Akpoguma, Balogun and Sanusi should always be the first Choice based on Form and Clubs' pedigree.

Middle...... Onyeka and Ndidi pivot gonna be hard to break.

Attacking Midfielders...... Chukwueze, Iwobi and Aribo.

Forward.... no other choice but Osimhen.

Musa, Simon, Onuachu, Shehu, Omeruo shouldn't ever make the List again. Instead, Awoniyi for Onuachu, Ebuehi for Shehu Lukman for Simon, Moffi for Musa, and hopefully Olise or Ejaria for Omeruo (enough of packing Defenders in the Squad).

Just imagine what u put up there

It shows u are more knowledgeable than Rohr and you're here opposing sacking rohr at this tims forgetting that there is nothing rohr brings to the table other than mediocrity
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:45am On Nov 19, 2021
JohnBullMySon:
Keep quiet. you think say na by name?

Cape Verde is ranked 14th, above Guniea, Zambia, Gabon, Congo, Mozambique, Namibia. Only two countries separate them with Burkina Faso.
"KEEP QUIET" see the words...

It is faceless forum where anything goes and "wetin man go do" than to keep quiet but always surprising seeing a learned person that cannot pass simple message without using uncouth words.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:02am On Nov 19, 2021
humility33:


Just imagine what u put up there

It shows u are more knowledgeable than Rohr and you're here opposing sacking rohr at this tims forgetting that there is nothing rohr brings to the table other than mediocrity
Oga humility honestly we are in a tight corner...the major issue now who is going to take over from Rohr if is eventually sacked.

Sunday Dare said by next week Rohr will know his fate and it depends on NFF report on Rohr.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:16am On Nov 19, 2021
jihday:
it’s a gamble, for every guardiola there’s a Lampard and for every zidane there’s a Pirlo. Are we ready to gamble with our chances?
That's my point. It's all a risk. A good Pedigree only minimizes the risk but does not absolutely guarantee success.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:16am On Nov 19, 2021
jihday:
imama was the coach that failed to qualify us for both CHAN and olympics.

Make e no near that place oooo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:17am On Nov 19, 2021
oya e don do!
Let's shortlist coaches and we vote. grin
Then our elders take the result to the media houses.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:21am On Nov 19, 2021
LoverOfPussy:
Give me the job already

Thank God you are not even in the plan. Bassey for defence?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 7:26am On Nov 19, 2021
charlesemeka85:
after just 2 games? shocked
Yes he got a draw on the 1st 2 games of the season. They fired him, brought in their most successful coach who finally took them to relegation. So who is to be blamed here. Amuneke or the club

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 7:32am On Nov 19, 2021
Kog45:
Oga humility honestly we are in a tight corner...the major issue now who is going to take over from Rohr if is eventually sacked.

Sunday Dare said by next week Rohr will know his fate and it depends on NFF report on Rohr.
An other sound foreign coach should be contacted
The problem is having to put another clause in his contract that may discourage The sport ministry from going after another foreigner. But for now Rohr does not have what it takes to manage this team at all
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:33am On Nov 19, 2021
seankafor:
All of una wey wan take us back to the bribe taking era

He no go better for una angry

You think laying curses puts you on a clean pedestal.

Okay keep us in an era where Musa will be out of football for five months and still making National team call up so it will be better for you.

No Man Can Curse.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Elnino9(m): 7:34am On Nov 19, 2021
Some people would just be posting useless formations up and down... local team you no fit coach... i just tire for this thread.....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:35am On Nov 19, 2021
humility33:

An other sound foreign coach should be contacted
The problem is having to put another clause in his contract that may discourage The sport ministry from going after another foreigner. But for now Rohr does not have what it takes to manage this team at all

Which sound foreign coach will come? What philosophy is he bringing? What is his pay?

Just a foreign coach. Adding sound is funny to me.

See how we picked Rhor over many coaches in Nigeria that would have done better because we want foreign coach.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 7:45am On Nov 19, 2021
safarigirl:
Please, if we are talking about dropping Shehu, Musa and Ighalo permanently, we're supposed to add Omeruo to the list, because why is he still getting invites?

How many players from AFCON '13 are still in their national teams getting regular invites?

These are the issues.
It doesn’t matter nah ,so any player that played at afcon 13 should have retired from international football ?

So if a player is 20/22 years of age then the player should no more be playing for his national team ?

A player should be dropped from the national team only because he is not good enough or has lost form and not because he played at a tournament 8 years ago

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 7:48am On Nov 19, 2021
Oasis001:
A tactically sound Coach has the Tools to succeed as Super Eagles Coach.

Maduka still gonna get picked ahead of Uzoho by any Coach as GK.

Backline..... Aina, Akpoguma, Balogun and Sanusi should always be the first Choice based on Form and Clubs' pedigree.

Middle...... Onyeka and Ndidi pivot gonna be hard to break.

Attacking Midfielders...... Chukwueze, Iwobi and Aribo.

Forward.... no other choice but Osimhen.

Musa, Simon, Onuachu, Shehu, Omeruo shouldn't ever make the List again. Instead, Awoniyi for Onuachu, Ebuehi for Shehu Lukman for Simon, Moffi for Musa, and hopefully Olise or Ejaria for Omeruo (enough of packing Defenders in the Squad).

Good list

But onuachu out of the team? You must be a big joker
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:53am On Nov 19, 2021
I want more from a coach than just coaching. The philosophical part is important. The foundation for future teams.

I want a coach that will hold training sessions for academy coaches during breaks. I want a coach that will not just coach the team but the CHAN team and even be part of synergy with the junior teams.

Most foreign coaches won't offer it.

Amunike on his own is already training young local coaches free of charge.

It shows his passion for the growth of grassroots football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 8:04am On Nov 19, 2021
The problem is we are fans and rational debate is in short supply.Right now, the consensus is that Rohr is the worst coach ever. We hear the loud chorus "he has to go!", but true to type, there is no contingency plan.

Can they pay Rohr first before talking about firing him?He has covered NFF's shame for too long. No one deserves such treatment. We can't pay the man in the job and we're talking about replacing him.....

With who? Do we have money to pay the replacement: Foreign/Local/whoever? And hire who? Amuneke?
This is the Super Eagles we are talking about. NFF wouldn’t hire the Ghanaian or Cameroonian U17 World Cup-winning coach that ‘carried last’ in AFCON to coach the SE..

Can we be real even for a split second??

Yes, we've been piss poor but you get what you pay for.....unless he's not meeting his targets, sacking him means arrears and the rest of his contract.

Talk is cheap men...Pay him then address his performance or expectations.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:11am On Nov 19, 2021
Mujtahida:

Zidane proved himself? How? What had he won (your premise oo) before his appointment? Gaudiola too had really not won anything per se or rather his victory with the B team can also be the equivalent of Amunike's U-17 victory.
So that means that they are coaches (safarigirl has supplied more names) who were appointed to well known clubs without any winning pedigree as such. Although Zizou and Gaudiola's coaching successes have justified their appointments, at the time they were appointed, it was all a risk. Westehof was virtually unknown when he was appointed. See when a person succeeds, it makes everything good.

I understand your point about track record (at least Buhari has taught us a bitter lesson not to overlook a person's pedigree) but it's all a risk.

Amuneke can't be classed as a Rookie Coach. He has managed Clubs in Nigeria before he took charge of U17 National Team.

Your premise, comparing his Situation with Pep and Zizou, was wrong from onset but I responded to your Query cos you're an intelligent and a respected Fellow here.

Amuneke first senior managerial job was with Julius Berger of Lagos 2008 - 09. Later he coached Ocean Boys of Porthacourt from 2009 - 11.

What did he achieve with both Clubs? Both Pep and Zizou moved up the Ladder from Academies of their Clubs and rest is HISTORY.

Everyone is pointing at his success with U17. Guess we forget late Tella, Manu Garba also won us same Competition before him?

He qualified Tanzania for AFCON (not their first ever), but what did he achieve with them at the Tournament?

After Tanzania Job, he managed a Club in Egypt and was dismissed (sacked) for poor performance of the Team. Prior to Tanzania Job, he also managed a Sudanese Club and was fired.

Let's critique his CV objectively and stop building his Reputation and tactical know-how on his U17 success. Cos the Competition is for Boys not Men.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:17am On Nov 19, 2021
jihday:
if the NFF hire a white man with Emma’s CV you people will riot here

Better to hire Emma then... Cus unlike the white man, Emma understand our football better..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:17am On Nov 19, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Good list

But onuachu out of the team? You must be a big joker

drDoom3:


I disagree with excluding Onuachu. He offers an entirely different skillset to Osimhen that can be useful in some circumstances. Better finishing, aerial ability and static strength (Osimhen is dynamically strong, Onuachu is statically strong). There are situations where you use players like Onuachu to unlock tight games (e.g Benin) but of course Rohr doesn't know how to maximize the skillset of our players and that's why Onuachu looks poor with the SE. If not that Osimhen is the kind of player that can succeed anywhere, Rohr's tactics would have made him look like a headless chicken in the SE jersey, the way it has with players like Onuachu for example.

Both of you are right. I shouldn't judge him coz he couldn't play convincingly for us under Rohr. A tactically sound Manager (not Amuneke) will be able to use him well and productively.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 8:19am On Nov 19, 2021
Kog45:
"KEEP QUIET" see the words...

It is faceless forum where anything goes and "wetin man go do" than to keep quiet but always surprising seeing a learned person that cannot pass simple message without using uncouth words.
What's uncouth about that

I presume you found it disrespectful though. Sorry about that BTW.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:26am On Nov 19, 2021
Oasis001:




Both of you are right. I shouldn't judge him coz he couldn't play convincingly for us under Rohr. A tactically sound Manager (not Amuneke) will be able to use him well and productively.

And I repeat you made a good list

You suppose understand onuachu matter jare
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:32am On Nov 19, 2021
comodo:

Yes he got a draw on the 1st 2 games of the season. They fired him, brought in their most successful coach who finally took them to relegation. So who is to be blamed here. Amuneke or the club

cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:32am On Nov 19, 2021
BascoVanVeli:


One of if not the best on the continent. But he probably has the best job on the continent right now so he would be highly unlikely

But leading a country like Nigeria to AFCON and World Cup should be the best job of his career.

Does he play good football?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:36am On Nov 19, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


Which sound foreign coach will come? What philosophy is he bringing? What is his pay?

Just a foreign coach. Adding sound is funny to me.

See how we picked Rhor over many coaches in Nigeria that would have done better because we want foreign coach.

Some people have been brainwashed to believe that anything white is better ..

I've always maintained that a lot of African teams are shortchanging themselves by appointing mediocre foreign coaches to their national teams .. These coaches don't care about developing them.. It isn't their country..all they want is to get paid... When Rohr leaves the super eagles job, you can be sure that another African team will pick him up... Meanwhile,the man has no trophy to show ....


I'm not against appointing a foreign coach at all.. But if the NFF can't afford a decent one with at least a few trophies to show for it, there's no point in going for a lesser one ... All of this bias selection Rohr is doing would have been termed as corruption and egunje if he was a local coach

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 8:41am On Nov 19, 2021
safarigirl:


Zidane

Guardiola

Arteta

Moyes

Ole

No trophies to show, yet, readily appointed by top teams

You no include Lampard, Gary Neville, the truth is these coaches failed more times than they succeeded
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:45am On Nov 19, 2021
Oasis001:




Both of you are right. I shouldn't judge him coz he couldn't play convincingly for us under Rohr. A tactically sound Manager (not Amuneke) will be able to use him well and productively.

A tactically sound coach like Herve Renard? lol..

Renard is as much of a conservative coach as Rohr... I don't remember his AFCON winning teams playing the kind of football that would suit a player like Onuachu... Unless you want him to be chasing long balls around cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 8:49am On Nov 19, 2021
If you think Ndidi - Onyeka midfield will work then you didn't watch Ndidi - Etebo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:49am On Nov 19, 2021
humility33:


Just imagine what u put up there

It shows u are more knowledgeable than Rohr and you're here opposing sacking rohr at this tims forgetting that there is nothing rohr brings to the table other than mediocrity

I am not supporting Rohr, I want him gone as well. My only fear is avoiding frying Pan to Fire. Imama was the Reason we couldn't make it to Olympic. He's a local Coach, one of the best, but failed woefully with National Teams.

He was Rohr's Assistant for sometimes, what did he add to the Team tactically?! NFF had to fire and replace him with Yobo.

Yobo with no managerial experience replaces Imama and here we are eating Rohr raw. Yobo's ineptitude facilitates return of Salisu to the coaching Crew after his Suspension.

Honestly before we barbecue Rohr we need to cremate Pinnick first. That Dude is only using NFF to achieving his personal Goals.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:53am On Nov 19, 2021
Oasis001:


I am not supporting Rohr, I want him gone as well. My only fear is avoiding frying Pan to Fire. Imama was the Reason we couldn't make it to Olympic. He's a local Coach, one of the best, but failed woefully with National Teams.

He was Rohr's Assistant for sometimes, what did he add to the Team tactically?! NFF had to fire and replace him with Yobo.

Yobo with no managerial experience replaces Imama and here we are eating Rohr raw. Yobo's ineptitude facilitates return of Salisu to the coaching Crew after his Suspension.

Honestly before we barbecue Rohr we need to cremate Pinnick first. That Dude is only using NFF to achieving his personal Goals.



You jumped without past record examination and or peer assessment to the conclusion that Yobo is INEPT, don't you think that's a bit rash
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:57am On Nov 19, 2021
Danielnino00:


A tactically sound coach like Herve Renard? lol..

Renard is as much of a conservative coach as Rohr... I don't remember his AFCON winning teams playing the kind of football that would suit a player like Onuachu... Unless you want him to be chasing long balls around cheesy

grin

He won first ever AFCON Trophy for Zambia in 2012, won COSAFA Cup for them also in 2013, won AFCON trophy for Ivory Coast in 2015.

If he's not tactically sound, definitely our honorable Daniel is.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:58am On Nov 19, 2021
12large1:


Don’t defend the colonizers they don’t have your best interest at heart. World Cup allocation should be equalize by continent and impartial referees should officiate games . African team will excel at the World Cup on those terms

Which referee's have a record for bribery, corruption and bizarre decision-making. Look at the record of our Nigerian referee's in our league.

If your call European and American referee's biased as some have suggested, well let's just have 10% Nigerian referee's and in you can imagine the outcome.

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