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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:59am On Nov 19, 2021 |
komekn: Kindly help me with Yobo managerial success or at least experience. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:59am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001: There is no need attacking Danielnino00 attack the point too. I too share the same sentiments. I am not thrilled by Renard's playing pattern too. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:02am On Nov 19, 2021 |
TheGoodJoe: ![]() ..... but you like Bielsa's pattern of play right?! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:02am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001: Are you saying Renard shares similar philosophy to Bielsa? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:03am On Nov 19, 2021 |
TheGoodJoe: I am saying what matters in football is trophy not possession. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:05am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001: So how does this relate to Renard and Bielsa? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 9:08am On Nov 19, 2021 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:10am On Nov 19, 2021 |
TheGoodJoe: You don't like Renard playing pattern right?! If Rohr took us to Quarter Final at last World Cup and won AFCON, we won't be calling for his Head based on his conservative pattern. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:18am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001: So Bielsa is out of the discussion. I have always made my point and understanding of the game clear. I will give you an instant. I stopped supporting Manchester United in 2010. At that time, they have played the Champions League finals with Chelsea and won. Played the Champions League finals with Barcelona and lost. They had won the English Premier League and on top of the table. Despite the trophy success, I was not satisfied with the direction of the club and I stopped supporting them for a growing Manchester City. I supported City because I believed in the direction of the club. One was signing Roberto Mancini. I knew in the near future, there would be drastic successful changes. So I have never been a fan of immediate success. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:22am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001: I became a huge fan of Spain after Nigeria defeated them at France 98. Even though they lost, I was thrilled by their passing game and believed in the near future they would succeed. With Aragones in the head of affairs, he put together a young Spanish team and I had one of my biggest heartbreaks in international football. When Zidane inspired France with some mind-blowing displays to eliminate Spain. I slept off at the spot where I watched that game because I believed in their playing pattern. In the future, there was a turnaround that led to total success in Spain in both national and club football. What I am pointing out is that short-term wins don't thrill me. I want to see a long term plan being followed because I believe in the future, that will lead to a load of successful winnings. I want decades of success. Not some short wins. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:24am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001: Remember my famous statement that I prefer Iheanacho not going to the AFCON and staying back to go through drills under Rodgers? That is how I see football. The AFCON was a short-term goal. Staying back and improving his tactical depth and play was more important. That would lead to long-term success. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:27am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001: That was why when people were happy with Rhor for qualifying, I was vocal about his conservative pattern of play. I hammered repeatedly that it will lead to stagnancy in our growth. So the World Cup Quarterfinal will not thrill me if we are playing dross football. Because, in the near future, we would be mediocre. Quality play remains King because it leads to the development of the team. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 9:31am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Subzero047:Onyeka does not hold the ball for too long like etebo holds |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:31am On Nov 19, 2021 |
@TheGoodJoe..... I respect your understanding of the Game and what you like in the Game. Not Everyone is a Fan of tiki taka or ghen ghen football. Till today, Mourinho would always be a special one to some set of Fans, coz he always delivers. Mou's play pattern is conservative but he guarantees success. Remember he took Spurs to League Cup Final? Thus his Stint at the Club is not entirely a Failure. Once again, I respect your understanding of the Game, but to me Trophy would always come first. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:33am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001: There's no need for the pettiness... Why did he fail with Morocco? Why did he fail when he returnee to the Ligue1.. You want Renard .. And according to you,he is the kind of coach that would bring out the best in a player like Onuachu... It's becoming obvious your knowledge of the game is limited ..I started supporting it when you attempted to mock Marcelo Bilelsa 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 9:46am On Nov 19, 2021 |
![]() Jokes apart it's ok to clamor for Amuneke but the hype is too much as if it's not the same man we have been observing for this past few years. The one that even makes me laugh is how they hype his achievement at under 17 level saying how FIFA conducted ph.d thesis about his tactics forgetting that football at u17 level is a far far cry from senior professional football charlesemeka85: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 9:49am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Egbon please as the threads unofficial historian for all things SEs between 80s and 90s was Amuneke involved in any mago mago as alleged by forgiveness? Kog45: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:51am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Danielnino00: ![]() You ain't petty rather so mature..... LMFAO. Where in my Post did I specifically say, Renard gonna bring out best from Onuachu? Where in my Post did I mock Bielsa. Stating facts is mockery to our darling Professor of Football?! By the way, what's your Definition of Failure? How did Renard fail with Morocco?! Last time Morocco made it to the World Cup was in 1998, thanks to Renard they made it to Russia in 2018 - 20yrs Gap. On Record he topped the Group in AFCON 2019 with same Morocco. You wanna know rest National Teams in the Group? Ivory Coast, South Africa and Namibia. He won all the Group Stage Matches. Nigeria had Madagascar, Burundi and Guinea in the Group yet we came second. Morocco lost to Benin in the Knock-out Stage via PKs, guess what Renard did? He resigned honorably, he wasn't sacked. Saudi Arabia are almost certain to qualify for Qatar 2022. Japan and Australia are in the same Group with Saudi Arabia, perhaps I need to tell you as well. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:53am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001: Mourinho is defensive minded not conservative... Mou can get his team to play tantalizing attacking football when he can ..He just tend to switch on the defensive aspect quite often.. Conservative football is when you restrict your team from play to their strength because you are scared of losing...it also extends to players selection... Conte,Tuchel, Mou and Simeone are examples of defensive coaches... Rohr and Claude Le Puel are examples of conservative coaches ![]() Brendan Rodgers is an example of a coach that plays attacking football with reckless abandon ![]() Biesla and Klopp are example of coaches that high pressing football. Pep plays possessive football.. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:55am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Danielnino00: ![]() Mou and attacking football in the same sentence?! Tuchel and Conte play defensive football? Well I've learned from you sir. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:00am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001:Great points. But on a side note. What happened to Rohr? Was it not this same Rohr that qualified us out of the group of death during the WCQ for Russia 2018 with one game to spare? Look at how we annihilated Algeria, outclassed Cameroun and silenced Zambia. And we played good. What happened to this man? 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 10:02am On Nov 19, 2021 |
This! Egbon I'm always also curious why these geniuses are unemployed for so long when we start clamoring for them to take over. I mean if Nigerian authorities are blind and can't see their worth other countries at least in Africa should be scrambling to have their signature? At least when we hired Keshi he was coming off the back of 2 decent national team jobs in Togo and Mali. Kog45: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:02am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Mujtahida: Rohr started well, seems losing to South Africa in Uyo completely change his Game plans and Mentality. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:03am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Subzero047:Why can't we try Onyeka and Aribo or Onyeka and Etebo? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 10:04am On Nov 19, 2021 |
TheGoodJoe:Thegoodjoe don't mind some people opposing u, I personally believe that ur philosophies about the game is d best possible option that can truly take us very far in this modern era. there r no shortcuts to success, if ur theories can be succefully implemented practically, we can b sure of quality of football we all r clamouring for. And world cup semis will also b achievable. But the problem lies in getting d right people to do the job 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:07am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001:Wahala dey. We can't hire local coaches cos they are 'local' in that Nigerian way cos they are Nigerians and we know how we are. We can't hire foreign coaches cos too many of them mediocres milling over Africa using only their skin to peacock around and we don't have the finance for quality foreign coaches. So we are stuck. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:08am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Mujtahida: Onyeka and Ndidi can play (well) together, but we must play with attack-minded Fullbacks. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:14am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Danielnino00: Tuchel defensive coach? Really!? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:14am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Mujtahida: ![]() I won't mind Samson Siasia to be Frank. Unlike Amuneke, he successfully managed both U20 and U23 National Teams. He was just unlucky with his rescue mission for the Super Eagles. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:15am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001:Before then sef he started buckling down. It started during the friendlies for the WC 2018. Me I always stress this issue of faith and confidence because it directly affects how a coach sets up his team. I recall that Rohr never was pessimistic about our hopes of qualifying for the WC. We were an attacking team. It was when we qualified for the WC Rohr started talking negative. We thought it was mind games. I think he felt we were not good enough for the world stage. So he retreated and having retreated, he could not get himself out again and since then things have steadily gone downhill. As his confidence plummeted, so did our game become jaguda football. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:16am On Nov 19, 2021 |
Oasis001: Gbam! Onyeka is a very good player but we need backup players for Onyeka and Ndidi on the bench. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:17am On Nov 19, 2021 |
forgiveness: ![]() E shock you?! Perhaps cos he's playing 3 at the back, hence Professor Daniel thought he's a defensive Coach. Maybe Roberto Martinez also is a defensive Coach. |
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