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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by gambojimeta: 12:15am On Nov 19, 2021
benalvino3:


Before they became leaders, they were not leaders. that's what PDPGUY or bill Maher are saying. you see Maxine waters asking people to harass GOP Senators and it is not stopping there... now they are Harassing even Dems. AOC could run for office and trump as well... you will be put in the position to choose one out of the two... Bill Maher doesn't want that.
We Isa nat forgots
GOP Isa rotten likey fishy heads
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/537065-here-are-the-gop-lawmakers-censured-by-republicans-for-impeaching-trump

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 12:19am On Nov 19, 2021
Ekemeze:


Russia and China must be pleased with the division caused by the media.

japan was friends with US pre WW2. They got so big and invaded china and other Asian countries, the US sanctioned them and they attacked. We are seeing the same pattern with china. We know the role they played in North Korea to kill capitalism. they should not have been given the economic opportunity to get to where they are.

They may not need nukes to destroy the US... the Media is doing a good job.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 12:23am On Nov 19, 2021
benalvino3:


Before they became leaders, they were not leaders. that's why PDPGUY or bill Maher is saying. you see Maxine waters asking people to harass GOP Senators and it is not stopping there... now they are Harassing even Dems. AOC could run for office and trump as well... you will be put in the position to choose one out of the two... Bill Maher doesn't want that.

AOC is not running for Office and will never run for office. Any popularity she has is the popularity Trump has been giving her since 2016. The choice is not between Trump and AOC or any Twitter noisemakers.

Here in UK, we've always had crazy politicians in the Labour Party who are straight up communists (George Galloway, Tony Benn etc). The day a Conservative leader leaves the leader of the Labour party to start creating a war of words with these communists is the day British Democracy dies.

Face your opponent man to man. Stop talking and amplifying irrelevant stuff. This is emotional manipulation and a form of dishonesty in politics.

Even today, we have a couple of MPs that support BLM in Labour Party (see Dawn Butler below). Boris Johnson could have been reckless like Trump and start hammering on Dawn Butler to appeal to people's emotions. Instead he's totally ignored her. She is not his opposition and it would be disingenuous for him to shift the political atmosphere toward what is not really representative of the Labour party to appeal to emotionally infantile electorate by gaslighting and dog whistling. The Democratic members of Congress is around 300 people, and the squad is only 5 or 6. How are they the face of the party?

This is why we like our media regulations here in UK where you cannot have blatant partizan news or talk outlets like in USA where divisions are being sown every day.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXspBV5RWd8



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2aafrWpsKg

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ekemeze: 12:24am On Nov 19, 2021
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 12:29am On Nov 19, 2021
Ekemeze:


grin
That even reminds me, China had earlier thanked Joe Biden for supporting them and for not recognizing Taiwan as a country. I don't understand US anymore!

there is a reason the United States doesn't truth the dems anymore. And I said trump losing may be a good thing as it will shine the light on what the democrats are all about.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by gambojimeta: 12:33am On Nov 19, 2021
Ibime:


AOC is not running for Office and will never run for office. Any popularity she has is the popularity Trump has been giving her since 2016. The choice is not between Trump and AOC or any Twitter noisemakers.

Here in UK, we've always had crazy politicians in the Labour Party who are straight up communists (George Galloway, Tony Benn etc). The day a Conservative leader leaves the leader of the Labour party to start creating a war of words with these communists is the day British Democracy dies.

Face your opponent man to man. Stop talking and amplifying irrelevant stuff. This is emotional manipulation and a form of dishonesty in politics.

Even today, we have a couple of MPs that support BLM in Labour Party (see Dawn Butler below). Boris Johnson could have been reckless like Trump and start hammering on Dawn Butler to appeal to people's emotions. Instead he's totally ignored her. She is not his opposition and it would be disingenuous for him to shift the political atmosphere toward what is not really representative of the Labour party to appeal to emotionally infantile electorate by gaslighting and dog whistling. The Democratic members of Congress is around 300 people, and the squad is only 5 or 6. How are they the face of the party?

This is why we like our media regulations here in UK where you cannot have blatant partizan news or talk outlets like in USA where divisions are being sown every day.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXspBV5RWd8



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2aafrWpsKg
Trumpolinis Isa helep creation da divisions Ina amelika

Da Amelika Isa stillls suffars Fram Isa misrules

Isa takey times ta heals

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by gambojimeta: 12:39am On Nov 19, 2021
Ekemeze:


grin
That even reminds me, China had earlier thanked Joe Biden for supporting them and for not recognizing Taiwan as a country. I don't understand US anymore!
Disi donkey Isah lies pass da Jabulani headed donkey

Dis ah associacion ofu liars

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 12:40am On Nov 19, 2021
gambojimeta:

Trumpolinis Isa helep creation da divisions Ina amelika

Da Amelika Isa stillls suffars Fram Isa misrules

Isa takey times ta heals

Isa never heal.

Politics is based on rules of engagement. Both parties have always had an understanding to meet somewhere halfway to perform the function of Government. Trump divided America for good as the opportunist he is, cos that's the only way he could gain power within the GOP, by appealing to their most radical side

Trump can never stand with these men here as Presidents of America. He cannot even bring himself to go to their functions and act Presidential for once.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 12:42am On Nov 19, 2021
Ekemeze:


grin
That even reminds me, China had earlier thanked Joe Biden for supporting them and for not recognizing Taiwan as a country. I don't understand US anymore!

Eke, you better stick to Radio Biafra than be dropping bombs here

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:06am On Nov 19, 2021
basilico:


He was called to go put out a fire those sicko had started. They attacked him, the paedo got slugged, then the other three thugs attacked him while he was running to the police.

No one called him out to do any such job! Vigilanteism is not legal in America.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:07am On Nov 19, 2021
basilico:


Are you not grateful , that the creep will never take away the innocence of young boys?

Are you grateful that the non-paedos Rittenhouse shot will not live their lives?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 1:08am On Nov 19, 2021
Ibime:


Maher is highlighting a perception problem which is correct, but he's also falling into the emotional trap. He said choosing between AOC and Trump is like choosing between two crazies, but people are more comfortable with the Trump choice.

The choice has never been between Trump and AOC.

Who are the leaders of the Democratic party? Biden, Pelosi and Schumer - straight down the line, plain vanilla Democrats.

The crazies (AOC and co) are nowhere near leadership of the dems.

The crazies (Trump) are in control of the GOP

Even Maher said Tuberville tried to draw out the Dems by putting forward a defund the Police bill and it was defeated 99-0.

The Dems only failing is not knowing how to manipulate social media. Social media itself is built on reactionary opinions that are amplified in the algorithms. A plain vanilla politician like most democrats are will get drowned out on social media by more trending controversial topics.

Politics is simple when you lay emotions to one side. There is no party without crazies. The Bernie Sanders and co have always been in the Democratic party, and the Democratic party were never characterised by such extremists before the coming of social media. Likewise, you've always had Trumps on the Republican side before the coming of Trump.

The real question is who is in power. Why would anyone let an inconsequential AOC determine their vote and give the vote to Trump who is a crazy in power.

This is simply a social media phenomenon, a classic and effective move by Trump to hang the AOCs on the Dems neck by making them more popular. Extremists like to put themselves against extremists and give people a hard choice. Fascists have always amplified Communists in order to make people choose the lesser evil and seize power. I laid out this play some years ago on Chelsea thread when Trump started tweeting AOC. Trump deliberately grew her profile for that reason. Can't find the post now. That's equivalent to Obama tweeting Marjorie Taylor or Laura Boebert instead of facing Mitt Romney and co.

Maher is off the mark here laying out the choice. It's comparing apples and oranges.

Trump = Bernie
AOC = Majorie
Manchin = Romney



The Trump crowd though loud like the Bernie crowd is what the opponents take as the political weapon. The outrageous things they say is what sell. The middle crowd like Manchin Sinema Romney McCain are identical and boring and probably disgusting to the loud people of their party and the way crazy Democrats will love to get rid of Manchin and Sinema is the way the crazy Republicans will love to get rid of McCain and Romney. The same way Romney was heckled at the airport is the same way Sinema was followed into the bathroom

The mistake the GOP made in 2015 was not to (rig) or stack the cards against Trump like the Democrats did against Sanders. Trump became candidate thus became party leader. Somehow won the election and has all the benefit that comes with the presidency which cannot be wiped away or ignored just by a wave of hand. For 4yrs he was the most powerful man in the GOP, America and the world and with it comes influence

Away from Trump, What Bill Maher is saying is that when both sides highlights their craziest, the crazy things associated with Democrats hit home more to the regular folks. And it becomes a battle of your crazies are crazier than my crazies

For example Ilhan, Tlaib and AOC in their world call for Defunding police, While Gosar, Majorie Boebert are saying Democrats eat babies
And opposing media pick it up to smear the other side

Normal people dont want to defund police when put to a vote they lost 99-0 because its crazy and only fringe element parrot it around, Normal people dont think anyone eat babies or Jews cause wildfire in California

Both are crazy talk, but which crazy talk hit home closest. Is it the one about Clinton eating babies or about someone saying there should be no policemen on the street Which one are you as a citizen more worried about?? Side A come into power and defund police, decriminalize crime or side B come to power and prosecute Clinton for eating babies or deny Holocaust and 9-11?

Recent news that happened in the last 5 days

GOP
Rep Gosar posted an anime beheading AOC which is childish and what you would expect from a 10yr old. Lets say CNN and left media hammers on this

Democrats
New York Mayor a black man is proposing bring back anti crime police on the street and Newsome a BLM activist replies

Newsome said after that meeting while speaking to reporters, “If he thinks that they’re going to go back to the old ways of policing, then we are going to take to the streets again. There will be riots, there will be fire and there will be bloodshed because we believe in defending our people.”

https://www.yahoo.com/now/york-city-mayor-elect-eric-173925207.html

Which one do you think scores close to home the most, Gosar beheading a cartoon of AOC(Even though majority dont agree with it) or threats of bloodshed on the street(Even majority dont agree with it)

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:24am On Nov 19, 2021
Ibime:


AOC is not running for Office and will never run for office. Any popularity she has is the popularity Trump has been giving her since 2016. The choice is not between Trump and AOC or any Twitter noisemakers.

Here in UK, we've always had crazy politicians in the Labour Party who are straight up communists (George Galloway, Tony Benn etc). The day a Conservative leader leaves the leader of the Labour party to start creating a war of words with these communists is the day British Democracy dies.

Face your opponent man to man. Stop talking and amplifying irrelevant stuff. This is emotional manipulation and a form of dishonesty in politics.

Even today, we have a couple of MPs that support BLM in Labour Party (see Dawn Butler below). Boris Johnson could have been reckless like Trump and start hammering on Dawn Butler to appeal to people's emotions. Instead he's totally ignored her. She is not his opposition and it would be disingenuous for him to shift the political atmosphere toward what is not really representative of the Labour party to appeal to emotionally infantile electorate by gaslighting and dog whistling. The Democratic members of Congress is around 300 people, and the squad is only 5 or 6. How are they the face of the party?

This is why we like our media regulations here in UK where you cannot have blatant partizan news or talk outlets like in USA where divisions are being sown every day.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXspBV5RWd8



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2aafrWpsKg

That's the beauty of having a non-partisan speaker, or deputy, as the case was here. Parliamentary rules say you can't call a member a liar.

https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-2245,00.html

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:59am On Nov 19, 2021
budaatum:


No one called him out to do any such job! Vigilanteism is not legal in America.

Budaatum. You should not make statements that you know not of.
This is a photo of Kylie and the garage owners talking.Photo taken by a biased person already.There is also video footage of the owners outside their business premises
One of the Khindri brothers testified he never asked the vigilantes for help.He obviously lied under oath.
Furthermore the armed group had access to the roof of the car Mart.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BasedUsername: 6:43am On Nov 19, 2021
[quote author=gambojimeta post=107752141][/quote]

Oh no, a guy he knows did something wrong. Must be guilty too
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:13am On Nov 19, 2021
Ibime:


AOC is not running for Office and will never run for office. Any popularity she has is the popularity Trump has been giving her since 2016. The choice is not between Trump and AOC or any Twitter noisemakers.

Here in UK, we've always had crazy politicians in the Labour Party who are straight up communists (George Galloway, Tony Benn etc). The day a Conservative leader leaves the leader of the Labour party to start creating a war of words with these communists is the day British Democracy dies.

Face your opponent man to man. Stop talking and amplifying irrelevant stuff. This is emotional manipulation and a form of dishonesty in politics.

Even today, we have a couple of MPs that support BLM in Labour Party (see Dawn Butler below). Boris Johnson could have been reckless like Trump and start hammering on Dawn Butler to appeal to people's emotions. Instead he's totally ignored her. She is not his opposition and it would be disingenuous for him to shift the political atmosphere toward what is not really representative of the Labour party to appeal to emotionally infantile electorate by gaslighting and dog whistling. The Democratic members of Congress is around 300 people, and the squad is only 5 or 6. How are they the face of the party?

This is why we like our media regulations here in UK where you cannot have blatant partizan news or talk outlets like in USA where divisions are being sown every day.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXspBV5RWd8



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2aafrWpsKg

Sometimes when I talk, you people will say I am a coon or I don't know what I am doing. The video she just made is a serious problem and it curses a stigma in society. all she accuses the of is just not what it is and she uses are the position of power to play the Victim. which is the alleged systematic racism. She said she was not going to start recording till the woman came and escalated everything. but she was already recording before they approached her. Although the UK has a bad press, they are nowhere near American bad press. American press will kill for a moment like this.

as for trump, he gets too distracted. His policies are fine but I believe he overdid things.

She is more of an activist. well, The UK and the US is not the same and it is nice how the Uk can control situations like this.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 8:22am On Nov 19, 2021
Lmao Ahmaud Arbery killers are also claiming self defense, America will soon find what they are looking for.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:39am On Nov 19, 2021
Pfizer to release the data provided to FDA when acquiring the licence for the vaccine.
Are ready to release 329000 pages of the documents provided to FDA. FDA took 182 days to peruse through that data before giving the vaccine Comimarty the go ahead.
The downside to this is that Pfizer wants to release 500 pages a month.Meaning it will take 55 years before all data is made public.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BasedUsername: 9:37am On Nov 19, 2021
gambojimeta:


Looks like you're down with a case of ligma
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BasedUsername: 9:37am On Nov 19, 2021
sanpipita:
Lmao Ahmaud Arbery killers are also claiming self defense, America will soon find what they are looking for.

Nah, those guys are guilty af

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nastymods: 9:54am On Nov 19, 2021
BasedUsername:


Looks like you're down with a case of ligma

Gambojimeta isa donkey called tha Goodvibes007. He isa lose it because I isa say tha fact that he isa addicted donkey who isa addicted to tha Nairaland
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:20am On Nov 19, 2021
Court suspended Biden plan to enforce vax mandate in the private sector via gov agency

DeSantis signs law banning vax mandates for Florida state in the greatest troll location.
Lets go Brandon.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 10:24am On Nov 19, 2021
benalvino3:


Sometimes when I talk, you people will say I am a coon or I don't know what I am doing. The video she just made is a serious problem and it curses a stigma in society. all she accuses the of is just not what it is and she uses are the position of power to play the Victim. which is the alleged systematic racism. She said she was not going to start recording till the woman came and escalated everything. but she was already recording before they approached her. Although the UK has a bad press, they are nowhere near American bad press. American press will kill for a moment like this.

as for trump, he gets too distracted. His policies are fine but I believe he overdid things.

She is more of an activist. well, The UK and the US is not the same and it is nice how the Uk can control situations like this.


That is what you saw in my post abi? My post was to show how mature political systems handle rabble rousers, rather than pouring more gas on the fire. Politics is not for immature minds

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 10:32am On Nov 19, 2021
budaatum:


That's the beauty of having a non-partisan speaker, or deputy, as the case was here. Parliamentary rules say you can't call a member a liar.

https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-2245,00.html


Funny enough, one of my lunatic friend who is a Trump supporter now supports this Dawn Butler because "she says it as it is". I'm like how does the ideology of Dawn Butler and Trump mesh. And this is a guy who is quick to cry racism at work and has a case in court against one of his former employer, also a guy who knew nothing about politics till 2015.

This is the appeal of Trump to infantile minds, who are unstable and unmeasured in their approach to Governance issues. They just think politics is a talk-anyhow, do-anyhow affair and have no grounding in how political systems work. Most of these infantile Trump supporters are new to politics and think it's a computer game. You won't see many of them politically involved prior to 2015. Look at someone like Benalvino who said he woke up to MSM in 2015. These are juveniles, just like the Radio Biafra guy Ekemeleze who woke up yesterday to say he heard America has ceded Taiwan to China. These are the level of people we call Trumpanzees, easily emotionally riled by hot topics that Presidents have no business fueling. Just rail against Muslims, Trans etc and you have these juveniles hooked into your political ideologies.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 10:37am On Nov 19, 2021
Ibime:



That is what you saw in my post abi? My post was to show how mature political systems handle rabble rousers, rather than pouring more gas on the fire. Politics is not for immature minds

I can see many things at once and it is okay.
my last words:
She is more of an activist. well, The UK and the US is not the same and it is nice how the Uk can control situations like this.

also, what do you think would have happened if this was in the US? the media will start talking about racism, how a white woman ejected a black woman.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Evangelynn(f): 10:51am On Nov 19, 2021
basilico:
Court suspended Biden plan to enforce vax mandate in the private sector via gov agency

DeSantis signs law banning vax mandates for Florida state in the greatest troll location.
Lets go Brandon.

LMAO, they are just being clownish.
I thought the GQP supported free markets and policies of business owners so why this unnecessary clown show that will get challenged in court.

If it gets to SCOTUS thank the heavens that Barrett and Kavanaugh are sane enough to support public policy .
The business owners will keep enforcing their mandate since the hospitalisation rates are reducing.

DeSantis and Abbott are wasting their time trying to frustrate Biden's vaccination drive it won't work and many business owners are still enforcing their mandates

So sad that republiQans have turned public health to politics

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 12:11pm On Nov 19, 2021
WispyEthereal:
because a black man in similar scenario crossing state lines and gunning people at a MAGA or proud boys or oathkeepers rally will most likely not have lived beyond the night much less make it to court to give account of events from his own perspective

The difference is turning yourself vs resisting arrest. Timothy Simpkin shot 4 people in his school and still lives to this day. Infact, he was even released on bail.

Now I want to ask, why is crossing state lines a factor in this matter? How does that deny him his right to defend himself from a violent angry mob?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CoolUsername: 12:14pm On Nov 19, 2021
WispyEthereal:
how does rosenbaum being allegedly a convicted sex offender, and Anthony Huber having a domestic violence charge validate their murder by this bastard son of a thousand multigenerational whores? I trust my naija, get exonerated, v for vendetta. Blood must surely pay for blood, but what is my own? America na different cruise

Rosenbaum was seen chasing him on video, powder burns on his hands indicate that he was holding the barrel of the gun when he got shot. Huber bashed the boy's head multiple times with a skateboard. Had they not acted like chimpanzees and threatened the life of a kid on that day, your child-raping and woman-beating heroes would still be alive today.

Also, we saw what happened to last angry mob that tried to come for Rittenhouse.

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