TemmyDayo50:
Traditional/Engagement is the main thing... That's our own culture...
Court wedding is important as well so the law recognise you and your partner as legally married...

Church wedding is just because you are a Christian by religion and you want to catch cruise most especially for females... It's not as valid as the Engagement and the court wedding...
My Opinion!

You are right.

Jemerson:
Church wedding and white wedding are not the same thing.

White wedding = social event after church wedding

what is church wedding and where is it in the Bible?

prophetfire:
You are really the confused folk here. There's no where in the entire scriptures where the church is authorized to join people together in marriage. Christ didn't do or advice to do so. Infact nobody in the Bible engaged in that charade you people call Church wedding. Christ attended a traditional wedding in the home of the family and even support them with wine but didn't officiate or hijack it. Exact opposite of what your pastors do. They charge money, hijack the process, officiate and claim to be empowered to join people together. Who empowered him to do so? Himself.
Where did your so-called pastor that doesn't follow the Bible derive the authority with which he joins people together?
Which divine law, principles and authority is he operating from. How can he stand on a so-called altar of God and be engaging in activities Christ stayed away from?
Church wedding is a European culture imported into the church in the days when the church was engaging in power-grab and bringing man-made laws and practices into the church.
You modern day Christians are too funny and dumb that you don't study the Bible or ask your pastors questions.

Where did I say it's written in the Bible?

By the way, is it now an evil practice because it is not written in the Bible?

It's called a church wedding because it's carried out in the Church hence it's has become a Christian practice whether man-made or not. And as long as it doesn't involve the shedding of human blood, it is not a bag thing.

When Nigerians don't have money to so something, they come up with very strong arguments to downplay that thing.

Is court marriage biblical?
Why are people doing it without questioning?

virginprincess:
Yes, it is very important for we Christians, that is where the marriage is blessed in the Godly way with the name of jesus christ, for me, NO CHURCH WEDDING NO MARRIAGE.

God bless you daughter of Zion!
They feel they can do it in their own way and of course,life is a choice!
Recently, the Children of this World are on condemnation sprill- 'oh Church oh tithes and very soon they would query God on why we are in this World.
It is either you believed Jesus,the Word of God and the blessings by his Ministers! So when you go to Church,it's now white man's blessings you received there,abi?
You can as well go to other gods for a blessing with their certificates as well but the Church will perform her roles by guiding the Children of the Most High God!

Asour:


For all intents & purposes in Nigeria today, they are the same. That why they happen the same day.
In fact the definition of reception is to entertain the church guests. Isn't it. Or else who are you receiving?

You can do church wedding without reception. The choice is yours

prophetfire:
what is church wedding and where is it in the Bible?

Google is free

Figger:
you're confused I can see that.

You have been noticed

Joyceaile:
My thoughts though, just wondering why church wedding has being made mandatory to new couples, Some elders told me it’s a white man's belief, that the most important is the dowry paid to the parents of the girl and the traditional, then to legally show or proof you are married, the court wedding comes in whereby you are handed the certificate of marriage.

So why the craze for the white wedding? Educate me, I am open to learning.

The most important aspect of marriage is the traditional one, if the traditional one did not hold, the church cannot do anything. The church aspect is just to notify the public that these people are now Mr. and Mrs. Even a Bible Church that is so stringent about marriage cannot do anything if either of the parents refuses. They will tell you to go and pray more.

Why bring up always controversial Christian topics like this one all the time?

virginprincess:
Yes, it is very important for we Christians, that is where the marriage is blessed in the Godly way with the name of jesus christ, for me, NO CHURCH WEDDING NO MARRIAGE.

So, it's the church that blesses the marriage ehhhhh? In the new testament, Maybe the wedding Jesus blessed wine in was in the synagogue. Pastor's or church members can't also come to the traditional wedding hmmmm?

Now, who are the church?

I believe they curse the couples in traditional wedding.

You want to see what the real blessing is, na traditional wedding.

virginprincess:
Yes, it is very important for we Christians, that is where the marriage is blessed in the Godly way with the name of jesus christ, for me, NO CHURCH WEDDING NO MARRIAGE.

I am afraid that is a lie fed you by men so they can deceive and control you lot using the name of Jesus Christ and God.

God doesn't bless your church weddings, nor your traditional or your court weddings .. none of them have anything to do with Him so what you do in these, you do in vain.

God only blessed marriage when it conforms to His command. Haven't you ever wondered why your so-called Christians marriages look no different from the marriages of unbelievers and pagans in most every fashion?

Mpanyi:
Why bring up always controversial Christian topics like this one all the time?

Controversial in what sense? We live in the information age, don't we? Isn't it a good time to learn Truth apart from the lies our fathers and mothers, and the lying pastors and gods of men fed to us in the name of God?

Righteousness2:
If you Claim to Believe in JESUS Christ! It is.

GOD is a GOD of Order.
The Church is the Body of Christ and JESUS Christ is the Head of the Church.
GOD ALMIGHTY is the Institutor of the Marriage Institution. In Ephesians, HE likened the Love a Man should have for His wife to that HE has for the Church.
The Church is the representative of Christ on Earth.
If you claim to Believe in JESUS Christ, it is Very Important to for you to be joined by His body.

Am very sure that u will not have scene in ur life again... Period.. am sorry I hate people who are too religious.......

As a Christian born and brought up in the Catholic Church, Holy matrimony Is an important sacrament of the church.

So after trad, I and hubby will go for church wedding. I will not actually need a big reception after this...
just wedding and I go home with my baby asap❤️

TemmyDayo50:
Traditional/Engagement is the main thing... That's our own culture...
Court wedding is important as well so the law recognise you and your partner as legally married...

Church wedding is just because you are a Christian by religion and you want to catch cruise most especially for females... It's not as valid as the Engagement and the court wedding...
My Opinion!

what is 'Enagement' really and what is the importance?

Maryjane001:
As a Christian born and brought up in the Catholic Church, Holy matrimony Is an important sacrament of the church.

So after trad, I and hubby will go for church wedding. I will not actually need a big reception after this...
just wedding and I go home with my baby asap❤️

And there, another lie, which is that your matrimonial are Holy.

1. How can a union which was then cursed by God in Genesis 3 vs 16 be said to be Holy?

2. How can the union which is worked according to the rules of men instead of God's original law be said to be Holy?

P.S. The word "Holy" as used in scripture means "in perfect compliance/agreement with and in accordance with the blueprint that is God's Law and Will.

Nigerian ladies are just not wise... They are so daft and only think of the present not tomorrow.

A wise lady or family should be pushing for court wedding not church because court wedding comes with a lot of protection for the lady and her children.

They read and see how family members use tradition to maltreat a wife who suffered with their son before his demise or how a husband turn tiger and forget the wife that struggled to build with them yet they still fight over irrelevant church wedding.

Nigerian ladies and families of the bride admire the protection oyibo women get from the state in marriage, they want it but their foolish desire to pepper their friends will not allow them to reason.

With this kind mindset Nigerian ladies will continue to get jilted by a poor wealthy husband in marriage... Go tell oyibo husband to get side chick and throw it at the wife's face and see whether his life struggle won't be split into three

Traditional/Engagement is the main thing... That's our own culture...
Court wedding is important as well so the law recognise you and your partner as legally married...

Church wedding is just because you are a Christian by religion and you want to catch cruise most especially for females... It's not as valid as the Engagement and the court wedding...
My Opinion! [/quote]

.......So it is more important to be recognized by Men (Traditional/Engagement) and the Law (Court Marriage) than God (joined to your partner in the Church)? It is only God (Priests or Men of God who represents God here on earth) the institutor of Marriage that is saddled with the responsibilities of joining in Marriage (place and location doesn't matter be it in the Church or elsewhere). Where was God given audience to pronounce them husband and wife in the "Tradition/Engagement" or "Court wedding "? It is only at the "Marriage" conducted under a Priest or Man of God that this happens. "Traditional/Engagement" ceremony not marriage is simply giving to Caesar what belong to Caesar (meaning paying dowry to compensate the parents and families of the bride for raising their daughter for you to marry) so they cannot put asunder into your marriage once pronounced husband and wife by a Priest or Man of God. The power of that pronouncement that says " ..what God has joined together let no man put asunder" by a Priest or Man of God is only valid when dowry has been paid to the Bride's family. In conclusion, Traditional/Engagement is not a marriage but just a ceremony that avail the groom the opportunity to compensate the Bride's family in terms of dowry payment. After which he is now authorized to take her before a Priest or Man of God to be joined together by God. Court marriage is only expedient if you and your spouse has plans to travel out of your own Country for whatever reasons. Locally, even without a Court Marriage your marriage issues can still be handled by a Customary Court ( a recognition in it's own right)

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Minjim:


So you just plug a flower from a garden without asking the garden keeper or the owner?

Is that what you are implying?
Why did Abraham's servant sought to consent of Isaac's wife's parents?

Lol. But Sarah also went right ahead to get him to sleep with her maid, trying to speed up what God has promised and it came back to bite them in the ass. David also killed Uriah to get his wife. I can literally use these two cases to justify my actions, and ask, 'how about David that killed a man? So I can use kayanmata to get a man and use juju to kill his wife. David did it!'' I can decide to treat my house help badly, because, the mother of all nations did it.

My point is: stop conflating God's commandments with people's personal decisions and cultural expectations, just because it's 'God's favorite people' doing them.

You can choose to do what you want oh, but God no dey send us, for some things we do and carry on our heads.

You all should not condemned white wedding. Let those who can afford it do it. Those who do not believe in it or can't afford it should keep off.

prophetfire:
You are really the confused folk here. There's no where in the entire scriptures where the church is authorized to join people together in marriage. Christ didn't do or advice to do so. Infact nobody in the Bible engaged in that charade you people call Church wedding. Christ attended a traditional wedding in the home of the family and even support them with wine but didn't officiate or hijack it. Exact opposite of what your pastors do. They charge money, hijack the process, officiate and claim to be empowered to join people together. Who empowered him to do so? Himself.
Where did your so-called pastor that doesn't follow the Bible derive the authority with which he joins people together?
Which divine law, principles and authority is he operating from. How can he stand on a so-called altar of God and be engaging in activities Christ stayed away from?
Church wedding is a European culture imported into the church in the days when the church was engaging in power-grab and bringing man-made laws and practices into the church.
You modern day Christians are too funny and dumb that you don't study the Bible or ask your pastors questions.

Too much sense in this! That is it! A lot of Christians are so oblivious to those part of 'Christianity's' history - just right after Jesus's death and the first century's Christians era - when the church began to get mixed in politics and social activities. I mean so many political and social science books I read, when they talk about the development of history, will always mention three general categories of rulers and peoples and fluctuating power changes between them ... the nobles, the priests, the poor; or the generals, the papals, the serfs; or the monarchs/the land owners, the temple attendants, the mass. They started to romanticize poverty and started creating the state of poorhood into some form of divine requirement, thereby enriching themselves and created an 'institution' of alms giving to them, so that they rich people will feel good about themselves and verse heaven.

There was SO many marriages and crossovers and spill overs between the Church and the State (practices) at that point of Christianity's development, that now people can hardly differentiate between what is biblical and what is the practices OF THE TIME from one another.

Anybody that feels church wedding is important should do it.. anyone that feels otherwise shouldn't do it.

Those asking if it's important or not are just doing so because they don't have money to foot the bills associated with it..

Mercychen:


Where did I say it's written in the Bible?

By the way, is it now an evil practice because it is not written in the Bible?

It's called a church wedding because it's carried out in the Church hence it's has become a Christian practice whether man-made or not. And as long as it doesn't involve the shedding of human blood, it is not a bag thing.

When Nigerians don't have money to so something, they come up with very strong arguments to downplay that thing.

Is court marriage biblical?
Why are people doing it without questioning?

A situation where the church now call people that don't do it sinners is the reason I speak against it. It should be optional and not mandatory, and people should not be shamed in the church for not doing it. The church is the one in the wrong.
As for statutory marriage, it's not compulsory but if you would be involved in the affairs of the state whereby the administrative policy of the state require that you present a marriage certificate, then you have to do it. If not no one shames you or calls you a law breaker if you didn't do statutory wedding.

[quote author=Jemerson post=107815537]

Google is free[/quote You are exposing your ignorance further by bringing Google into this. Google can't put into the Bible, something that was never in the Bible in the first place. There's no Church wedding anywhere in the Bible. Prove me wrong by bringing up the place it is in the Bible or in your Google. Copy and paste it here.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid even your church wedding isn't binding since the real marriage , if you follow God's Law on marriage, happens the moment the man and woman agree to join as one.

the people that did only trad some marriages didn’t last but the ones that went to church they find a way to make it work by my observation it’s just a personal thing maybe you won’t understand

prophetfire:
You are exposing your ignorance further by bringing Google into this. Google can't put into the Bible, something that was never in the Bible in the first place. There's no Church wedding anywhere in the Bible. Prove me wrong by bringing up the place it is in the Bible or in your Google. Copy and paste it here.

Mr. 'where's it in the Bible' ; remind me again who wrote the Bible

Magnoliaa:


Lol. But Sarah also went right ahead to get him to sleep with her maid, trying to speed up what God has promised and it came back to bite them in the ass. David also killed Uriah to get his wife. I can literally use these two cases to justify my actions, and ask, 'how about David that killed a man? So I can use kayanmata to get a man and use juju to kill his wife. David did it!'' I can decide to treat my house help badly, because, the mother of all nations did it.

My point is: stop conflating God's commandments with people's personal decisions and cultural expectations, just because it's 'God's favorite people' doing them.

You can choose to do what you want oh, but God no dey send us, for some things we do and carry on our heads.

Just hear yourself.
You are referencing the negative actions of people in the Bible that the Bible also condemned. Do you pray to go thru what David went thru for his misdeed?
Where in the Bible was Abraham's servant condemned for asking permission from Rebecca's parents? Show me where a marriage took place in the Bible and parent didn't consented .

Emulate the good virtue in the Bible not negative ones.
One thing you are failing to understand is that, when it comes to people after God's heart- God can afford to be bias. And there is nothing anyone can say or do about it.
Don't go putting yourself in Abraham's shoe. It won't work

And where in the commandment did God say when you see a lady, marry her without her parents' consent?
God never said you should not ask the parents' consent, stop putting words into God's mouth.
We appreciate that it's morally right to ask for parents' consent because godly people did it in the Bible.

Minjim:


Just hear yourself.
You are referencing the negative actions of people in the Bible that the Bible also condemned. Do you pray to go thru what David went thru for his misdeed?
Where in the Bible was Abraham's servant condemned for asking permission from Rebecca's parents? Show me where a marriage took place in the Bible and parent didn't consented .

Emulate the good virtue in the Bible not negative ones.
One thing you are failing to understand is that, when it comes to people after God's heart- God can afford to be bias. And there is nothing anyone can say or do about it.
Don't go putting yourself in Abraham's shoe. It won't work

And where in the commandment did God say when you see a lady, marry her without her parents' consent?
God never said you should not ask the parents' consent, stop putting words into God's mouth.
We appreciate that it's morally right to ask for parents' consent because godly people did it in the Bible.

It doesn't matter that 'godly' people do it. Yes, you can emulate them in some things, but that is not enough reason to say that some things are legit to do because godly people did it. That's what I'm saying. The same way Abraham's servant asked permission from Rebecca's parents is the same way David killed someone. The servant that was sent was not as godly as David, by the way. So because godly people in the Bible did it, doesn't ALWAYS mean it is right for us to do it. But Jacob too was cheated when he wanted to marry, and he obviously favored Rachel more than he did Leah -- did God condemn that? Or say anything on it? Does that mean we should go about cheating and deceiving people when we want to marry, or men with two wives should start placing one above the other? By the way, do you favour polygamy? Before you condemn it, remember the men of old practiced it.

If you want to go down that line, that I should start bringing up cases where God did not expressly condemn somethings, therefore it means God supports it, we'll not be able to finish tabling it. There were so many bad and wrong things people did in the Bible, yet God was silent. Does that mean he condoned it?

No problem, if God can be biased when it comes to people after His heart, then if I marry without my parent's acceptance and assuming I am after His Heart, there is no problem. If people after God's Heart are allowed to fk up and misbehave and do things out of the norm, then YOU should not be condemning or speaking against anyone who chooses to do things out of the norm. You don't know who's dear to God's heart or not. Whether I marry religiously or culturally or in a secular way, you have no authority to say any is acceptable before God - because God allows bias when it comes to people after His Heart. RIIGHTT?

Saul cheated David a first time, then a second time, after giving Michal to him, went on to sabotage him, looking ways to kill him. This was a father that consented, yet wanted to kill his son-in-law because he hated him. And when Michal helped David escaped, going against her father, is that right? Did God condemn or approve that? Is the fact that Saul is her father enough to stop her from helping her love? If I showed you a place in the Bible where parents did not consent, is it valid to bring cases of unbelievers and cultural marriages where that happened?

No. It is entirely different things ... for your parents to be aware that you're marrying and to be accepting of it and for them to literally hold the authority over yours choices as an adult and to do moral things and to do things because godly people did them. Some actions do not become morally okay BECAUSE 'godly' people are doing them.

solasoulmusic:
the people that did only trad some marriages didn’t last but the ones that went to church they find a way to make it work by my observation it’s just a personal thing maybe you won’t understand

Who fed you that bullsheet lie?

Even worse, who told you that God is somehow vested in your marriages? Have you ever really read your Bible for your own self, this without the rosy filter your mogs interpretations(lies) as your guide?

Stankovic22:
Nigerian ladies are just not wise... They are so daft and only think of the present not tomorrow.

A wise lady or family should be pushing for court wedding not church because court wedding comes with a lot of protection for the lady and her children.

They read and see how family members use tradition to maltreat a wife who suffered with their son before his demise or how a husband turn tiger and forget the wife that struggled to build with them yet they still fight over irrelevant church wedding.

Nigerian ladies and families of the bride admire the protection oyibo women get from the state in marriage, they want it but their foolish desire to pepper their friends will not allow them to reason.

With this kind mindset Nigerian ladies will continue to get jilted by a poor wealthy husband in marriage... Go tell oyibo husband to get side chick and throw it at the wife's face and see whether his life struggle won't be split into three

I have made my intentions known to my fiancee, you have two options

We skip church wedding and I open a business for u or we do church wedding with the money I am keeping aside to establish u... The choice is yours to make

Magnoliaa:


It doesn't matter that 'godly' people do it. Yes, you can emulate them in some things, but that is not enough reason to say that some things are legit to do because godly people did it. That's what I'm saying. The same way Abraham's servant asked permission from Rebecca's parents is the same way David killed someone. The servant that was sent was not as godly as David, by the way. So because godly people in the Bible did it, doesn't ALWAYS mean it is right for us to do it. But Jacob too was cheated when he wanted to marry, and he obviously favored Rachel more than he did Leah -- did God condemn that? Or say anything on it? Does that mean we should go about cheating and deceiving people when we want to marry, or men with two wives should start placing one above the other? By the way, do you favour polygamy? Before you condemn it, remember the men of old practiced it.

If you want to go down that line, that I should start bringing up cases where God did not expressly condemn somethings, therefore it means God supports it, we'll not be able to finish tabling it. There were so many bad and wrong things people did in the Bible, yet God was silent. Does that mean he condoned it?

No problem, if God can be biased when it comes to people after His heart, then if I marry without my parent's acceptance and assuming I am after His Heart, there is no problem. If people after God's Heart are allowed to fk up and misbehave and do things out of the norm, then YOU should not be condemning or speaking against anyone who chooses to do things out of the norm. You don't know who's dear to God's heart or not. Whether I marry religiously or culturally or in a secular way, you have no authority to say any is acceptable before God - because God allows bias when it comes to people after His Heart. RIIGHTT?

Saul cheated David a first time, then a second time, after giving Michal to him, went on to sabotage him, looking ways to kill him. This was a father that consented, yet wanted to kill his son-in-law because he hated him. And when Michal helped David escaped, going against her father, is that right? Did God condemn or approve that? Is the fact that Saul is her father enough to stop her from helping her love? If I showed you a place in the Bible where parents did not consent, is it valid to bring cases of unbelievers and cultural marriages where that happened?

No. It is entirely different things ... for your parents to be aware that you're marrying and to be accepting of it and for them to literally hold the authority over yours choices as an adult and to do moral things and to do things because godly people did them. Some actions do not become morally okay BECAUSE 'godly' people are doing them.

Don't compare yourself to David or Abraham. Those are people God Himself acknowledged.
Who acknowledged you?

Show me where God said you should not seek parents consent