iamoyindamola:

Like I said you win some and lose some
He thought Nuno will be okay for arsenal which is not

Fair enough then

Jodera:
How many comebacks we do during the league.
I can only recall the first leg against Leicester 3-1 (ozil masterclass).

Remind me how many comebacks we did wey make us finish 5th?

Go check am na

iamoyindamola:

But have you seen any difference, we labelled our defenders clowns what should we call these presence ones that haven't done anything perform better than the previous one

The league is harder unlike previous seasons.
Everyone without bias knows this defence is better than Emery's defence. What we just need is a Sanchez type of winger and we're good to go.

iamoyindamola:

Go check am na

I dey come

Modified: after checking it, we had only 3 comebacks out of 38 league matches(west ham 3-1, Tottenham 4-2 and Leicester 3-1). In fact, teams do comeback against us than we did against them.

I no know the comeback kings wey you and spy talk say we been do

Jodera:
The league is harder unlike previous seasons.
Everyone without bias knows this defence is better than Emery's defence. What we just need is a Sanchez type of winger and we're good to go.

Leemao
I laugh in Swahili, why do we need Sanchez type of player when defence will win you league

iamoyindamola:
Incase we have forgotten
Mustafi and his clowns went 20 games unbeaten during ebening time
Mustafi and his clowns never have negative goal difference
Mustafi and his clowns didn't lose 4 matches in their first 12 games
Do we still need defenders make Una answer o so we can collate possible better CB

We chop 4 goals someone said kudos to Gabriel and co, let's chop 2 goals with Mustafi and Luiz at the back you for don see analysis .

The stats are there to see, the problem of this team is still that midfield and attack.

How many shots or threats did the Liverpool backline face, it's common sense that the more threats faced the more likelihood to concede, it's results like this that fool peeps into thinking VVD is the next thing after slice bread. At a point VVD had to come to midfield just to get involved cos he was idle and bored.

What they don't know is attack is the best form of defense. They held the ball more than we could, if you are with the ball can your opponents score?

You need a good midfield and attack to be a threat or control possession but defence is our priority.

Defence that could hardly keep strings of clean sheet even with the run of playing average teams.

Una no know ball for this thread.

iamoyindamola:

Leemao
I laugh in Swahili, why do we need Sanchez type of player when defence will win you league

I'm not even proponent of defence win you league sef, but you see this season... Na defence done carry us go far. Exclude the -9 goal difference we had in the first 3 matches wen the defence wasn't around and you'll know this your -4 way you dey talk about no be their fault. Blame the clowns of the first 3 matches and not this present one that's trying to clean up the deficit.

And my reason for Sanchez-like is that we need a goal scoring winger, all top teams have one except arsenal. Now that we have a midfielder in ESR that's popping in goals, we need a good wing forward that can pop in goals too (saka is not consistent with it). Lacazette is not someone who's consistent and that leaves only Auba with the scoring responsibility in that forward line. E no gel na

iamoyindamola:

Leemao
I laugh in Swahili, why do we need Sanchez type of player when defence will win you league

Defence will win league yet someone was salivating for a player like Ndidi.

kokanepyramid:

We chop 4 goals someone said kudos to Gabriel and co, let's chop 2 goals with Mustafi and Luiz at the back you for don see analysis .

The stats are there to see, the problem of this team is still that midfield and attack.

How many shots or threats did the Liverpool backline face, it's common sense that the more threats faced the more likelihood to concede, it's results like this that fool peeps into thinking VVD is the next thing after slice bread. At a point VVD had to come to midfield just to get involved cos he was idle and bored.

What they don't know is attack is the best form of defense. They held the ball more than we could, if you are with the ball can your opponents score?

You need a good midfield and attack to be a threat or control possession but defence is our priority.

Defence that could hardly keep strings of clean sheet even with the run of playing average teams.

Una no know ball for this thread.

I have tried every possible example to prove this to them from slow mertasacker and Kos to Barcelona defence during their dominance era.
All I see is they don't want mustafi and his clowns, now they have all gone but results is even worse

Jodera:
One thing I do know is that I love this team fighting spirit and winning mentality. This team might not be as talented as Emery team but they have more fighting than that of Emery team.

This confirms my assertion that most peeps here get carried away by activity. More of Brawns and less of brains. Na why some peeps here will famz Ramsey and Guen while berating Ozil

Jodera:
I'm not even proponent of defence win you league sef, but you see this season... Na defence done carry us go far. Exclude the -9 goal difference we had in the first 3 matches wen the defence wasn't around and you'll know this your -4 way you dey talk about no be their fault. Blame the clowns of the first 3 matches and not this present one that's trying to clean up the deficit.

And my reason for Sanchez-like is that we need a goal scoring winger, all top teams have one except arsenal. Now that we have a midfielder in ESR that's popping in goals, we need a good wing forward that can pop in goals too (saka is not consistent with it). Lacazette is not someone who's consistent and that leaves only Auba with the scoring responsibility in that forward line. E no gel na

No go there
Let assume the season start at Anfield, we were on zero goal difference
Only for them to chop 4 most of us here were begging Liverpool to stop scoring, I swear I no see Gabriel throughout the game na only white, Tomi and tavarez be like gabu ghost abi we play short one
Liverpool mess up our over hyped defence, it should have been 8 or 9 if not for ramsdale

kokanepyramid:

We chop 4 goals someone said kudos to Gabriel and co, let's chop 2 goals with Mustafi and Luiz at the back you for don see analysis .

The stats are there to see, the problem of this team is still that midfield and attack.

How many shots or threats did the Liverpool backline face, it's common sense that the more threats faced the more likelihood to concede, it's results like this that fool peeps into thinking VVD is the next thing after slice bread. At a point VVD had to come to midfield just to get involved cos he was idle and bored.

What they don't know is attack is the best form of defense. They held the ball more than we could, if you are with the ball can your opponents score?

You need a good midfield and attack to be a threat or control possession but defence is our priority.

Defence that could hardly keep strings of clean sheet even with the run of playing average teams.

Una no know ball for this thread.

Like I said earlier, that Liverpool game is not even a matter of defence or midfield or attack, it's down to coach. Klopp still wallop Emery 5-1 with midfield of Ozil, torriera and attack of Auba and lacazette. Him still wallop Wenger 4-0 with ozil Sanchez and cazorla.

If you watch that Liverpool game and you think we stood any chance to win that game cos of poor midfield instead of the superior tactics employed by klopp then you need to rewatch that match again.

Until Arteta increase his tactical acumen to outwit klopp and guardiola, we go always dey collect for their hands even if we have prime ozil, cazorla Sanchez and rosicky in midfield and attack.

kokanepyramid:

Defence will win league yet someone was salivating for a player like Ndidi.

How we missed out on bissouma I don't know

kokanepyramid:

This confirms my assertion that most peeps here get carried away by activity. More of Brawns and less of brains. Na why some peeps here will famz Ramsey and Guen while berating Ozil

We need brawns as well as brains. There's a reason the likes and calibre of ozil, fabregas and mata type of players are heading to extinction

Jodera:
Like I said earlier, that Liverpool game is not even a matter of defence or midfield or attack, it's down to coach. Klopp still wallop Emery 5-1 with midfield of Ozil, torriera and attack of Auba and lacazette. Him still wallop Wenger 4-0 with ozil Sanchez and cazorla.

If you watch that Liverpool game and you think we stood any chance to win that game cos of poor midfield instead of the superior tactics employed by klopp then you need to rewatch that match again.

Until Arteta increase his tactical acumen to outwit klopp and guardiola, we go always dey collect for their hands even if we have prime ozil, cazorla Sanchez and rosicky in midfield and attack.

You sound as if Liverpool has been unbeaten this season.
They've dropped 11 points already.
Can you list the teams they dropped points against and tell me what they did differently I want to see something.

iamoyindamola:

No go there
Let assume the season start at Anfield, we were on zero goal difference
Only for them to chop 4 most of us here were begging Liverpool to stop scoring, I swear I no see Gabriel throughout the game na only white, Tomi and tavarez be like gabu ghost abi we play short one
Liverpool mess up our over hyped defence, it should have been 8 or 9 if not for ramsdale

you didn't see Gabriel??

Jodera:
Like I said earlier, that Liverpool game is not even a matter of defence or midfield or attack, it's down to coach. Klopp still wallop Emery 5-1 with midfield of Ozil, torriera and attack of Auba and lacazette. Him still wallop Wenger 4-0 with ozil Sanchez and cazorla.

If you watch that Liverpool game and you think we stood any chance to win that game cos of poor midfield instead of the superior tactics employed by klopp then you need to rewatch that match again.

Until Arteta increase his tactical acumen to outwit klopp and guardiola, we go always dey collect for their hands even if we have prime ozil, cazorla Sanchez and rosicky in midfield and attack.

Did you see us say we will beat LFC, if arsenal want to lose have some pride, stress and disturb the defence
Actually we have a shot at the game the goals were down to individual errors which I won't blame the team for cos when tavarez go the ball from Arnold it's an opportunity for counter but he didn't see anyone lfc closed us down. Forcing him to commit that's what we want our midfield to do, press and press till they commit
It got to a stage they over pressed us we voluntory passed to them, there is nothing defence can do in such situation cos pressure pipe is severely bursted na free flow of water remain
Modern football don't need more of good defenders just get better midfielders way sabi die. Look at ox that day he defended and attack non stop
Tell me did matip or vvd have anything to do in form of defense

Jodera:
you didn't see Gabriel??

I think I need to watch the match again

kokanepyramid:

You sound as if Liverpool has been unbeaten this season.
They've dropped 11 points already.
Can you list the teams they dropped points against and tell me what they did differently I want to see something.

This lfc drew Brentford oo
E remain small them for lose

Jodera:
We need brawns as well as brains. There's a reason the likes and calibre of ozil, fabregas and mata type of players are heading to extinction

You confirmed in your post I quoted that they have more Brawns than brains.

Or what do you mean by "less talented but more fighting spirit" I agree with that line though.

iamoyindamola:

This lfc drew Brentford oo
E remain small them for lose

Same Brentford wiped us, reason I'm asking him to bring up the teams and tell me what those teams did differently.

Their is a reason wengay doesn't joke with his midfield most especially
Against world class Barca he will still have his own share of possession, but these present one will either do hide and seek or find it hard to put 10 passes together

kokanepyramid:

You sound as if Liverpool has been unbeaten this season.
They've dropped 11 points already.
Can you list the teams they dropped points against and tell me what they did differently I want to see something.

West ham, Brighton, Chelsea, man city Brentford. At least that's the five teams I can remember with only west ham beating them.

Like I said, it depends on the coach. Brentford matched them strength to strength same as Brighton, but Arteta was busy parking the bus and inviting Liverpool to dominate them. Reason why I said it's the coach cos even if you dash Arteta prime ozil, Sanchez and cazorla, he'll still park the bus wen he sees Liverpool and man city. It's a mental block something

Jodera:
West ham, Brighton, Chelsea, man city Brentford. At least that's the five teams I can remember with only west ham beating them.

Like I said, it depends on the coach. Brentford matched them strength to strength same as Brighton, but Arteta was busy parking the bus and inviting Liverpool to dominate them. Reason why I said it's the coach cos even if you dash Arteta prime ozil, Sanchez and cazorla, he'll still park the bus wen he sees Liverpool and man city. It's a mental block something

Amongst these teams how many of them have we met and won?

kokanepyramid:

You confirmed in your post I quoted that they have more Brawns than brains.

Or what do you mean by "less talented but more fighting spirit" I agree with that line though.

you said it's the reason why we prefer Ramsey and guen to Ozil, and I told you we need more than just ozil now. I said we need brains as well as brawns cos only ozil type midfielders won't take us anywhere presently with the way things are in epl. Reason why I said we need Sanchez and cazorla type cos they're both brains and brawns

kokanepyramid:

Amongst these teams how many of them have we met and won?

Aside west ham, we've met and lost against the rest. While I agree we lost against man city and Chelsea but the squad against Brentford (esp midfield and attack) is not EPL standard so I won't judge arsenal match with that

Jodera:
I dey come

Modified: after checking it, we had only 3 comebacks out of 38 league matches(west ham 3-1, Tottenham 4-2 and Leicester 3-1). In fact, teams do comeback against us than we did against them.

I no know the comeback kings wey you and spy talk say we been do

Wetin I do?

The only thing I said about Emery's Arsenal is that they grind out results, which the entire thread made fun of. Sod call am grinding machine.

I nor talk anything about comeback o. That one na Sod own.

iamoyindamola:

I think I need to watch the match again

Please do cos Gabriel was our best defender on the day

Spy360:

Wetin I do?

The only thing I said about Emery's Arsenal is that they grind out results, which the entire thread made fun of. Sod call am grinding machine.

I nor talk anything about comeback o. That one na Sod own.

Lol... Go jack Iamoyindamola oo. Him say na you and him acknowledge say Emery been do comeback kings

iamoyindamola:

Did you see us say we will beat LFC, if arsenal want to lose have some pride, stress and disturb the defence
Actually we have a shot at the game the goals were down to individual errors which I won't blame the team for cos when tavarez go the ball from Arnold it's an opportunity for counter but he didn't see anyone lfc closed us down. Forcing him to commit that's what we want our midfield to do, press and press till they commit
It got to a stage they over pressed us we voluntory passed to them, there is nothing defence can do in such situation cos pressure pipe is severely bursted na free flow of water remain
Modern football don't need more of good defenders just get better midfielders way sabi die. Look at ox that day he defended and attack non stop
Tell me did matip or vvd have anything to do in form of defense

I want to ask you a question.
The Brentford and Brighton that matched Liverpool strength to strength and almost won them, did they have better midfield and attack than arsenal?

Jodera:
Aside west ham, we've met and lost against the rest. While I agree we lost against man city and Chelsea but the squad against Brentford (esp midfield and attack) is not EPL standard so I won't judge arsenal match with that

These teams we lost to, are they known about their defending prowess or how they attack? How many times do we get to threaten and test their defences? How many shots do they face/match on average, their average possession per match. Compare with ours there lies your answer

Jodera:
West ham, Brighton, Chelsea, man city Brentford. At least that's the five teams I can remember with only west ham beating them.

Like I said, it depends on the coach. Brentford matched them strength to strength same as Brighton, but Arteta was busy parking the bus and inviting Liverpool to dominate them. Reason why I said it's the coach cos even if you dash Arteta prime ozil, Sanchez and cazorla, he'll still park the bus wen he sees Liverpool and man city. It's a mental block something

I knew that the moment we lose against Liverpool, Kokane will appear like Willie Willie and start his midfielders/attackers crusade.

Like he expected us to beat Liverpool.

Liverpool that has maintained the same squad for over 5 years, won league and CL, with a very good and respected manager and about the best players in the world.

FFS, this Arsenal team is just being built, they aren't there yet. They have not even blended not to talk of discovering their best formation. This team is the youngest and most inexperienced team right now in EPL, with a rookie coach.

They held their own against this Liverpool side toe to toe for 40mins before collapsing under pressure. Yet the best we can say about them is to criticise them. So much for being a fan.