OJURONGBE1:


I'll take Fabinho ahead of this jogghinhoe 2x.
He protects his back four, doesn't give out sloppy back passes. He launches into tackles skillfully & can also play as a makeshift CB. I have seen him attempt the ball forward each time he won possession, something Jogginhoe would rather pass back to put pressure on his defenders.

donjazet:

@anfieldfan, the bolded are the 2 biggest misconceptions you have allowed jorginho critics to fill your head with. That is simply not true.

As to your 1st point, when coaches double up on a player, it's not only because they sense weakness per say in the player, it's actually the opposite many at times. It is usually because they sense the player as the biggest threat to their team. Naturally, with jorginho being the fulcrum of our structure, it makes sense for teams to target him to create that disconnect between the attack and defence and interrupt the transitions.
But what you can never say is that jorginho panicks when pressed because we have seen jorginho beat the press successfully numerous times. It is on that basis we usually have far more possession and stability in our game. Rarely are we the ones pressured.
Don't let his staunchly biased critics cloud your judgement on this player.
Funny enough, I'm not even jorginho's biggest fan. Rarely do I ever fan players. I'm just backed into a corner to constantly defend this often misunderstood player. His type of players are usually wrongfully scapegoated because people can't "see" their influence. All they're seeing is short passes not knowing that he's superbly beating or bypassing a press.

And just like defenders, it's very easy to scapegoat him. A defender might have a very high performance in a match, winning duels, clearances,intercepting balls or tackling but all these things are thrown out the window immediately he makes "that" high profile error. This is what jorginho has to suffer. One or two errors wipe away all the positive contributions made. It's football.

airmark:


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hensben:
[s] Is it every top manager that play ball possession and gen gen pressing. Ogun and thunder kee you. F.ool [/s].

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Trevor012:

Trash

donjazet:


[s]So there is no other player with "age" and "experience" who have ever made mistakes right??

Let me ask you this, how would you rate a player who makes 50 passes in a game with a 92% success rate and about 7 key passes but makes 2 bad passes out of that 50. How do you rate that player?[/s]

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donjazet:


Okay, let me get this straight, you in your arrogant little mind, a nobody in football thinks guardiola, Mourinho, tuchel, Sarri and a lot of other top football minds, both players,coaches and pundits in the game are wrong about this player, because YOU said so.
Wow!! Just wow!! The guts and arrogance. For your mind to even fathom that, you are trying to say that a player who the best in the best recognize as a top player is bad because YOU said so. I won't even argue with you again on this.
A player who has already shown his pedigree. Crucial to 3 successful systems in the past few years.
There is nothing you and I can say on this that will change anything after all, you will keep seeing him play in our club and you will only continue to grieve. You will sulk and sulk and sulk. Whenever we win, you will credit the win to others and when we lose, you will well up with tears in your eyes with your fangs out lamenting and scapegoating one of the best midfielders in the world. And on and on and on that aimless cycle will go while i relax and enjoy our games.

AnfieldFan:


I agree with your Jorginho sentiments.
But I'm curious, do yo think Fabinho is a decent DM?

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Ibime:


He is Ok. I am not happy with his receiving of the ball, but at least he has one of the two qualities I need in a DM (speed and receiving the ball under pressure), while Jorginho has none. Just like Casemiro, if you can't receive the ball properly, that can be mitigated partly by a Modric dropping deep to facilitate that aspect of receiving the ball from defence.

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Ibime:


You always type without adding anything of substance, no understanding of midfield work or tactical insight, just repeating platitudes and falsehoods about Jorginho being a good playmaker when stats show otherwise, pointing at what people said about him, and constantly repeating falsehoods. How is Jorginho crucial to 3 successful systems? Jorginho was the weakness of Sarri and Lampard systems who has never been successful until Tuchel found a way to mollycuddle and cover his weaknesses with community defending while simultaneously scrapping his high possession style of football.
It is better you leave defence of Jorginho to those who know what they are talking about like User09 who can at least point out his strengths (which I highlighted). Your defences of him are nothing but empty chest beating with no tactical or technical insight. Your head is vacant.