donjazet:


So what is the point you are making exactly?
I have noticed that you always try to fault people's arguments without proposing your own ideas.

The person I was discussing with understood enough to reply, before you even made this post even.

Please stick the topic at hand and refrain from personal comments about what I may or may not do.

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donjazet:



I'm sure I'm not the first person to tell you that reading your posts induces headache sometimes.
From poor punctuations to wrongful spelling and mixing up words.
Yes bro, you do fail in your communication. Yours is not the occasional spelling mishap or autocorrect blunder but an inability to master the language all of us here understand and use to transmit information to each other. I'm not actually trolling here, I'm pointing out a particular weakness.

People don't make sense when they say, it's not necessary learning English. Well, pick a language then that all of us will understand. It's not mental slavery, it's common sense.

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Are you English.
More importantly is Hensben English.

You are an insecure and inconsequential nebbish
Boasting about your imaginary english proficiency reveals your profound insecurity

YOU ARE A FAKE DUDE inside and out a complete ersatz
Ersatz White man

Run along to your coevals with whom you share the slavery mentality.

This is a Nigerian website and we are not English. Don't mock his English only fake dudes LIKE YOU do that

People who pretend to themselves about who they are are FAKE

You are a fake guy.

people that wouldn't make effort to make the world better, condemn such thinking because they have given on this world and are simply passengers looking forward to paradise in heaven, all weather father Christmas has a mansion with their names on it waiting for them with no diseases and death

scarcity is what makes things valuable, once everybody has something, its no longer valuable, the entire world build of heaven is fundamentally flawed. will people remember their family members? how old will they be? after everyone is in, thats it forever? isnt that boring and simplistic, how will you solve segregation if people still remember their family and chose to congregate together? what happens to those at hell after a million years of burning? whats your grand plan after getting these people bowing at your feets?

the only way you can maintain a collection of people with no purpose but to worship and bow at your feet forever is to make them mindless idiots hence making the entire concept bullshit

Roland let me give a better illustration of my point from present happenings.

Take the Hausa language. After the infringement of Islam into our part of Africa, the fulanis went on a religious conquest and successfully conquered many smaller satellite tribes. Vast majority of them co-opt the Hausa language. Today someone from Adamawa in the east will go all the way to the sokoto in the west and still understand them.

Because of the unity of their language, they were able to even form a sociopolitical system that has worked for all of them. Many years ago someone from borno will not understand someone from sokoto, but that's not the case today. Today they see themselves as one and are united in the same causes.

This is as apt my point as any. Same languages help in uniting people.

donjazet:



I have not made any point pertaining to equality today. Unity doesn't necessarily mean equality. That's definitely a different argument.

I'm stressing on the possibility of a black man from say, Gabon traveling tonight to Siberia, meeting a white native and instantly understanding her without both seeing any social differences in themselves. Just an example of the utopia I'm talking about.

Why is your example not the other way around? A Siberia man traveling to Gabon and instantly understanding the Gabonese language? You see why I say equality, while a different argument as you have clarified is impossible to achieve.

There is no way they have similar socio-economic experiences. They are different people who have a right to identify with their respective experiences while respecting their differences. Unifying their experiences through language or any other means is impossible to achieve.

Trevor012:

Nonsense as usual . The only confused fool here is you who thinks two people want the same thing. You are more dumb than I thought. This wasted pipe thinks more than 2billion people would want the same thing irrespective of religion and cultural differences. Nigga gtfoh with your fuckery

there are marriages, where 2 people chose to structure their life rationally and lived happily ever after

Havertz10:
[s] there are marriages, where 2 people chose to structure their life rationally and lived happily ever after [/s]

Trash. You are typing nonsense and out of point

ShadowWalker00:
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Are you English.
More importantly is Hensben English.

You are an insecure and inconsequential nebbish
Boasting about your imaginary english proficiency reveals your profound insecurity

Run along to your coevals with whom you share the slavery mentality.

This is a Nigerian website and we are not English

So tell me, why are you communicating to me in English?
Answer on a postcard. Ode

hensben:
What is wort doing?, did I study English in school that I have to do it well. Okay can you speak French fluently with good intonation and diction?

I said it that you must have grown up in Francophone country from the way you structure your sentences. Oya knack us small French, Emmanuel Adebayo

Havertz10:
guessing you fetched this from that book of fables tower of babel

Nobody can stay clearly where the proton language originated from but its generally understood that various cultures learnt to use signs and sounds on their own, human intelligence gave those specific sounds meaning

Last last it's definition that teaches you meaning and you store those meanings to aid your communication with others

Alright

ShadowWalker00:
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Are you English.
More importantly is Hensben English.

You are an insecure and inconsequential nebbish
Boasting about your imaginary english proficiency reveals your profound insecurity

YOU ARE A FAKE DUDE inside and out a complete ersatz
Ersatz White man

Run along to your coevals with whom you share the slavery mentality.

This is a Nigerian website and we are not English. Don't mock his English only fake dudes LIKE YOU do that

People who pretend to themselves about who they are are FAKE

You are a fake guy.

That's a self hating black man. You see them all around licking the ass of their European slave masters whenever an aspect of African culture or tradition is praised.

Roland17:


Why is your example not the other way around? A Siberia man traveling to Gabon and instantly understanding the Gabonese language? You see why I say equality, while a different argument as you have clarified is impossible to achieve.

There is no way they have similar socio-economic experiences. They are different people who have a right to identify with their respective experiences while respecting their differences. Unifying their experiences through language or any other means is impossible to achieve.

But this has been achieved severally over the years. Via conquest.
I just gave this example.

Take the Hausa language. After the infringement of Islam into our part of Africa, the fulanis went on a religious conquest and successfully conquered many smaller satellite tribes. Vast majority of them co-opt the Hausa language. Today someone from Adamawa in the east will go all the way to the sokoto in the west and still understand them.

Because of the unity of their language, they were able to even form a sociopolitical system that has worked for all of them. Many years ago someone from borno will not understand someone from sokoto, but that's not the case today. Today they see themselves as one and are united in the same causes

.

This is as apt my point as any. Same languages help in uniting people.
The difference is today, we're doing it without wars.
We're doing it diplomatically. I just told you that before you become a pilot, you MUST learn English language.

Havertz10:
people that wouldn't make effort to make the world better, condemn such thinking because they have given on this world and are simply passengers looking forward to paradise in heaven, all weather father Christmas has a mansion with their names on it waiting for them with no diseases and death

scarcity is what makes things valuable, once everybody has something, its no longer valuable, the entire world build of heaven is fundamentally flawed. will people remember their family members? how old will they be? after everyone is in, thats it forever? isnt that boring and simplistic, how will you solve segregation if people still remember their family and chose to congregate together? what happens to those at hell after a million years of burning? whats your grand plan after getting these people bowing at your feets?

the only way you can maintain a collection of people with no purpose but to worship and bow at your feet forever is to make them mindless idiots hence making the entire concept bullshit

There's a lot to unpack here, but I no longer have the time or energy for lengthy debates here. There's a reason I pointed out that English Vs Yoruba thing.

Language is the number 1 tool of subjugation. All the great empires from the Greeks to British, Roman to Islamic, have enforced one language on numerous cultures.

Language isn't the barrier to unity that you seemthink it is. When the dominant power requires a single language, it will happen, as it always has throughout history. That's why I'm a bit surprised with someone saying that he's happy for his language to die out in pursuit of 'Unity'.

No be the same English all of us dey speak for here? Are we all United?

Roland17:


There in lies your answer. Are you saying communism is utopia? Even communist nations have hierarchy and inequality still persists. So what are we talking about? The human race can not conform to group thinking.

Can we achieve food security for everyone? I doubt it..... but if we do, can you guarantee the quality of food everyone eats is the same? When you understand the working of the human mind then you will realize Utopia is not possible. It is okay to hope but be realistic with your hopes.

socialism is the societal structure that i prefer, people can be inherently contented with their life

i dont think you understand how vast globalization is today and how scaleable it can be, do you know how many empty containers leave the ports all over the world every hour, if we want to feed the world, we can at scale

nihilistjnr:


The person I was discussing with understood enough to reply, before you even made this post even.
Please stick the topic at hand and refrain from personal comments about what I may or may not do.

I do prefer when we're not on opposing sides of issues, lest it becomes heated.

Havertz10:
socialism is the societal structure that i prefer, people can be inherently contented with their life

i dont think you understand how vast globalization is today and how scaleable it can be, do you know how many empty containers leave the ports all over the world every hour, if we want to feed the world, we can at scale

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nihilistjnr:


There's a lot to unpack here, but I no longer have the time or energy for lengthy debates here. There's a reason I pointed out that English Vs Yoruba thing.

Language is the number 1 tool of subjugation. All the great empires from the Greeks to British, Roman to Islamic, have enforced one language on numerous cultures.

Language isn't the barrier to unity that you seemthink it is. When the dominant power requires a single language, it will happen, as it always has throughout history. That's why I'm a bit surprised with someone saying that he's happy for his language to die out in pursuit of 'Unity'.

No be the same English all of us dey speak for here? Are we all United?

i dont think that it will singularly change things but i think that it will improve relations, besides the brits have lost control of the language, the world can coin a new term today and its in the dictionary tomorrow as a new word, english language isnt an advantage that one can exert today broadly, it bridges cultural divides, the reason why i think that a singular language is good for the world, is simply because it you take away that difference, people will have one less irrelevant thing to fight over and think with oneness, its as simple as a hausa man and a yoruba man

i understand the need to protect culture and identity but history has showed that inefficient systems eventually die, you cant defeat entropy with stupidity

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donjazet:



So tell me, why are you communicating to me in English?
Answer on a postcard. Ode

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Arindin, you must be a slowpoke.

You go to gym to build your muscles, such a shame there is no gym for the brain cells.

Why act like the gatekeeper of English language.

You carry English for head pass English people sef.

If hensben make mistakes in his English Why mock him for it, do you speak perfect English.

Is there even perfect English.

You are a mockery of a wannabe English.

What a fake guy.

Roland17:


ok

sweden, norway and denmark

their people are happy and very contented with their lives

donjazet:


Did any part of this make the slightest sense to you? Really curious to know.

It seems body just dey pepper you this night.

You don't know sarcasm right?

Capaldi:

That's a self hating black man. You see them all around licking the ass of their European slave masters whenever an aspect of African culture or tradition is praised.

He always so quick to mock people's English.

I wonder who made him the gatekeeper of English language.

Havertz10:
socialism is the societal structure that i prefer, people can be inherently contented with their life

i dont think you understand how vast globalization is today and how scaleable it can be, do you know how many empty containers leave the ports all over the world every hour, if we want to feed the world, we can at scale

Nonsense again. There's no benefits to socialism except in fantasy la-la land that you live in. Venezuela tried it and guess what happened?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-12/bankrupt-by-socialism-venezuela-hands-over-control-of-companies

Emaprince:
It seems body just dey pepper you this night.
You don't know sarcasm right?

You didn't make it seem sarcastic. Pardon my misunderstanding.

donjazet:
Roland let me give a better illustration of my point from present happenings.

Take the Hausa language. After the infringement of Islam into our part of Africa, the fulanis went on a religious conquest and successfully conquered many smaller satellite tribes. Vast majority of them co-opt the Hausa language. Today someone from Adamawa in the east will go all the way to the sokoto in the west and still understand them.

Because of the unity of their language, they were able to even form a sociopolitical system that has worked for all of them. Many years ago someone from borno will not understand someone from sokoto, but that's not the case today. Today they see themselves as one and are united in the same causes.

This is as apt my point as any. Same languages help in uniting people.

No apologetic feelings
But I think your IQ is too low
The fact Northerners speaks the same language does that translate into unity...many language speaks the same language, have same cultural background, have same religion, have same historical background yet they're war zones Somalia Iraq a perfect.
Now lets me stay local not go international
I'm a Yoruba boy
Yoruba is an homogeneous society translating to the fact they have the same historical breakground, cultural background, and same language (Yoruba) with a particular geographical location(South west Nigeria) despite this they're still divided ( yea very shocking)
We have the Oyos Ijexa (Ijesha), Lucumi, Ota (Aworis), Ketus, Ekitis, Jebus (Ijebu), Egba, Lucumi Ecumacho (Ogbomosho), and Anagos though they're have same history but divided by mere intonations and tones.
Imagine a group of people living in the geographical location, same belief, history, language, culture and language been divided by just mere intonations and tones...one of my professors particularly told there is no perfect homogeneous society we just have LEAST DIVERSE SOCIETY. The whole United world is myth cos the basic of the society FAMILY are divided across of alot of beliefs, ideology, and even politics, you can't take away preferences/choice from people as far people have choices to make then there will be differences. A state of utopia is a myth, a pure fantasy. France tried it in Africa by the policy of assimilation despite the fact forced labor and indignant policies were enforced on the natives there were some African that loves their traditions and cultures. I can go on and on but let me stop here

ShadowWalker00:

Arindin, you must be a slowpoke.

You go to gym to build your muscles, such a shame there is no gym for the brain cells.

Why act like the gatekeeper of English language.
You carry English for head pass English people sef.
If hensben make mistakes in his English Why mock him for it, do you speak perfect English.
Is there even perfect English.
You are a mockery of a wannabe English.
What a fake guy.

Soo many words, such little sense. You still did not answer my question, olodo. Why are you communicating to me in English?

Havertz10:
sweden, norway and denmark

their people are happy and very contented with their lives

Nordic countries don't practice full socialism. Infact they don't practice socialism at all. They are called social democracy.

Havertz10:
sweden, norway and denmark

their people are happy and very contented with their lives

Have you been to Sweden? People dey craze for there o.

If not that they have quality Asgardian females, you wont see me in such a location. A country where you have to bring your own shayo as a tourist, because the only the government is allowed to seek alcohol at ridiculous prices

Cost of living is too high, Tax is extortionate. You can live a comfortable life but try and be rich first, body go tell you.

Ibime:


I said it that you must have grown up in Francophone country from the way you structure your sentences. Oya knack us small French, Emmanuel Adebayo

I fit sing for French sef, I dey chop am but no need cos you nor go catch up.

Nah me fucck up I been dey argue with slowpoke.

Trevor012:

Nonsense again. There's no benefits to socialism except in fantasy la-la land that you live in. Venezuela tried it and guess what happened?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-12/bankrupt-by-socialism-venezuela-hands-over-control-of-companies

what do you know

if i start they will say i type plenty, america destroyed venezuela's economy with sanctions, its like you dont know the kind of power those assholes own

capitalist built news organization painting socialism in a bad light, human greed at work

ask yourself why saudi arabia with 38m people is flourishing selling oil

while venezuela of 25m people with the largest provable reserves of oil in the world is bankrupt

Havertz10:
sweden, norway and denmark

their people are happy and very contented with their lives

it’s not language that make them happy but adding value collectively which has greatly enhance enabling and friendly environment.