GeneralDae:

Thanks for introducing me to Kalistus and Boma. Those guys made my day this morning . I watched "Facebook Prophets" then "Terms and Conditions".

Yeap Kalistus , Boma an madam philo already watched that..very funny... For real those guys are original...

So we should also teach your Ghana political history

2 First Republic (1960–1966) - Kwame communist policies bankrupt Ghana and is kicked out by Military Coup - Imf invited to fix the country
3 Military rule (1966–1969)
4 Second Republic (1969–1972) - 3 yrs of attempted civilian rule.
5 Military rule (1972–1979)
6 Third Republic (1979–1981) - 3yrs of attempted civilian rule
7 Military rule (1981–1993) --- like Nigeria - Rawling won the election and continued his military rule.
8 Fourth Republic (1993–present

Real democracy in Ghana started in 2002 to now...about 20yrs of sustained democratic rule.

obaaderemi:
He's demented. Can you believe the nonsense he types!
Ghana emerging from military era.

Mkenya2019:
It quite simple. Your companies are retreating from regional expansion - and Kenya companies are expanding regionally. That very simple. Now if you project ceteris paribus then you can conclude Kenya will soon pip South Africa.

See, easy breezy.

I'm not stupid I won't argue over the fact kenya is way behind, even with the inflated stuff.

No amount of posting 6 neibourhoods of Nairobi, or 27km road will change that fact that you decades away even stands still without any growth, u fortunately for you things are looking up ratings agency agree too.

GDP... Kenya 110B. South Africa 330B. That is small mountain to climb if you consider in 2011 was 40B - so we meet in 2031 - and compare notes.

AfriqueDuZuid:


I'm not stupid I won't argue over the fact kenya is way behind, even with the inflated stuff.

No amount of posting 6 neibourhoods of Nairobi, or 27km road will change that fact that you decades away even stands still without any growth, u fortunately for you things are looking up ratings agency agree too.

You killed ARM. Your power blackouts and your ever weakening currency and forex controls. That is why it's insane for a company to invest in Tanzania

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/business/article/2001258006/how-arm-aggressive-expansion-into-dar-has-left-pradeep-in-tears
But several things went wrong.
In 2015, there was a general power shortage in Tanzania and this was partly because the Government had some dispute with the independent power producers who switched off their plants and there was some rationing. So its Tanga operation was affected.

In April 2015, the company was hit by a devaluation that cost it about 28 and 21 per cent of its value in Tanzania and Kenya, respectively.

Kazikazi:
Simply put,you lack capital to compete in Tz.
Imagine that Kenyan ARM cement owned by Indian dude,it came to TZ,tried to set up a plant with little money,meanwhile,Heildelberg group,Lafarge,and dangote which oparates in TZ,are too big for ARM.The result? ARM closed shop and were bankrupt!

mtisQ:

Yeap Kalistus , Boma an madam philo already watched that..very funny... For real those guys are original...

What I get from their stories is how the poor or struggling wants to make it fast or be big against all odds. These poor are ready to devise new means to become big (sometimes to just survive) by hook or crook and so it never ends well.

samorobo:
Yes

Quit sounding like an illiterate. If this picture enter into 2022 and they have not been updated you will still see the 2021 watermark there until google updates their pictures. Again go slow on the lies.

Another post to prove how dimwit and ignorant you are.
You sound more confused and mentally challenged.

2021 watermark for you, compare and contrast. I believe GTC is still on the ground level.

I believe these trees are still intact, no expressway has ever passed through this section.

Mkenya2019:
Maybe you're talking of a new Tanzania. Kenya economy now is nearly double Tanzania. Despite Tanzania having minerals, large (Nigeria size) arable land, large coastline and name it.

If you ask an average Kenyan if Tanzania will ever reach kenya level - they will laugh out loud.

We know Tanzania as one of the world slowest people. SLOTH.

You were asked,why would Tz be Jeolous of you?
You can't answer,but you busy speaking kibera stories.
Let me help you now
Why would a nation with huge deposits of minerals be jeoulous with a less fortunate nation like yours?

How can a nation with huge arable land be Jeolous with a nation with less land and starving?

How can a nation with large and long coastline with thousand of islands be Jeolous with you?

How can a nation with beautiful women be Jeolous with a nation of women who were voted the ugliest in Africa?

How can a peaceful TZ with almost zero tribalism be Jeolous with you fellas who has tribal squabbles and less peaceful? FYI,I don't know which tribe is the current TZ president belong to! In Kenya,you can't be a president without being from those two tribes.

Shma:

Another post to prove how dimwit and ignorant you are.
You sound more confused and mentally challenged.

2021 watermark for you, Compare and contrast. I believe GTC is still on the ground level.

....2021

AfriqueDuZuid:


I'm not stupid I won't argue over the fact kenya is way behind, even with the inflated stuff.

No amount of posting 6 neibourhoods of Nairobi, or 27km road will change that fact that you decades away even stands still without any growth , u fortunately for you things are looking up ratings agency agree too.

Americans used to think that China would take more than 50 years to catch up, even if the US economy stayed stagnant. Now, let's look at what transpired... If you do not grow, someone will quickly surpass you...

To be honest, South Africa was formerly seen by many Africans as a European country, but times have changed.

Most people conceive of it as just another African country, although one that is a little more developed.

It petty jealous - most of the time because you cannot speak English - but obviously you know we are richer than you - and it pains you.

Below is the later Dr John Alcohol Padlocks after ending an English press conference

Kazikazi:
You were asked,why would Tz be Jeolous of you?
You can't answer,but you busy speaking kibera stories.
Let me help you now
Why would a nation with huge deposits of minerals be jeoulous with a less fortunate nation like yours?

How can a nation with huge arable land be Jeolous with a nation with less land and starving?

How can a nation with large and long coastline with thousand of islands be Jeolous with you?

How can a nation with beautiful women be Jeolous with a nation of women who were voted the ugliest in Africa?

How can a peaceful TZ with almost zero tribalism be Jeolous with you fellas who has tribal squabbles and less peaceful? FYI,I don't know which tribe is the current TZ president belong to! In Kenya,you can't be a president without being from those two tribes.

Mkenya2019:
Pure nut case. Kenya is top 10 in global good. Kenya has always been well known. Not only as only UN HQ in the global south, as the Oasis of peace in war torn Africa, as one most progressive countries, Nairobi is now literally the HQ of Africa - competing with Joburg.

As for Nigeria - you're known as corrupt enclave that generates thugs and drug dealers. You probably the most infamous country on planet earth.

Kenya rise is not "new" thing..Nigeria and Ghana recently emerged from 40yrs of military dictatorship - and rejoined civilized nations. Both countries became democratic - 2002 - 20yrs ago

South Africa did well under Mandela - from pariah state - they expanded regionally - and became a force to reckon with - and post-Zuma they are going down.

As for Nigeria - apart from Goodluck and Obasanjo - your Buhari and your former military leaders are butt of jokes.

This boy is foolish. For decades little India was synonymous with droughts and starvation. Up to 2019 there were still images of starving hordes coming out of Kenya. The last time we had such was in the 80s in Ethiopia.

While Nigeria has its shortcomings, at least it was known as a oil and gas major with a stake in the world economy with its position in OPEC. You on the other hand send to Europe products of little value like tea and flowers.

Nigeria was instrumental in bringing peace to warzones like Liberia and Sierra Leone, even reinstating toppled presidents, one in west Africa and another in central Africa. Apart from South Africa, some of Africa's largest companies are here. Nigeria has Africa's largest economy while yours has refused to hit the $100bn mark. Kenya is little known, except as a hunting ground for white people and for the biracial man, Obama.

GeneralDae:

What I get from their stories is how the poor or struggling wants to make it fast or be big against all odds. These poor are ready to devise new means to become big (sometimes to just survive) by hook or crook and so it never ends well.

yeap life be like that...i find that little man down there is very smart only that he hasnt been given a chance...

Mkenya2019:
So we should also teach your Ghana political history

2 First Republic (1960–1966) - Kwame communist policies bankrupt Ghana and is kicked out by Military Coup - Imf invited to fix the country
3 Military rule (1966–1969)
4 Second Republic (1969–1972) - 3 yrs of attempted civilian rule.
5 Military rule (1972–1979)
6 Third Republic (1979–1981) - 3yrs of attempted civilian rule
7 Military rule (1981–1993) --- like Nigeria - Rawling won the election and continued his military rule.
8 Fourth Republic (1993–present

Real democracy in Ghana started in 2002 to now...about 20yrs of sustained democratic rule.

22 years of military rule in total. Not the 40 you claimed. And since the 90s Ghana has enjoyed unbroken civilian rule. How does that tally with your claim that Ghana just emerged from military rule? You are daft.

GeneralDae:

What I get from their stories is how the poor or struggling wants to make it fast or be big against all odds. These poor are ready to devise new means to become big (sometimes to just survive) by hook or crook and so it never ends well.

Good vibes.

Watch this documentary of Kenya in 1979 and we can talk after that.

Once you watch this documentary - you will understand why Kenya has always been a serious country - not a hell hole like Nigeria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKs3xN7I-X0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw2VMALZbxw

obaaderemi:
This boy is foolish. For decades little India was synonymous with droughts and starvation. Up to 2019 there were still images of starving hordes coming out of Kenya. The last time we had such was in the 80s in Ethiopia.

While Nigeria has its shortcomings, at least it was known as a oil and gas major with a stake in the world economy with its position in OPEC. You on the other hand send to Europe products of little value like tea and flowers.

Nigeria was instrumental in bringing peace to warzones like Liberia and Sierra Leone, even reinstating toppled presidents, one in west Africa and another in central Africa. Apart from South Africa, some of Africa's largest companies are here. Nigeria has Africa's largest economy while yours has refused to hit the $100bn mark. Kenya is little known, except as a hunting ground for white people and for the biracial man, Obama.

Kazikazi:
You were asked,why would Tz be Jeolous of you?
You can't answer,but you busy speaking kibera stories.
Let me help you now
Why would a nation with huge deposits of minerals be jeoulous with a less fortunate nation like yours?

How can a nation with huge arable land be Jeolous with a nation with less land and starving?

How can a nation with large and long coastline with thousand of islands be Jeolous with you?

How can a nation with beautiful women be Jeolous with a nation of women who were voted the ugliest in Africa?

How can a peaceful TZ with almost zero tribalism be Jeolous with you fellas who has tribal squabbles and less peaceful? FYI,I don't know which tribe is the current TZ president belong to! In Kenya,you can't be a president without being from those two tribes.

with all those nice things why is you economy so small

anyway kazi :
1.huge deposits of minerals --remember congo
2. arable land-congo
3. large and long coastline-somali
4.beautiful women dude most of TZ is bantu..so is rest of southern africa kenya included
5.TZ with almost zero tribalism --somali isjust one tribe

see you can have allthat but still be what trump said

rvp2018:
Still peddling rubbish..why not show Kenya exam pre 2015..you're looking at lagging indicators as we transform our country to churn millions of technicians,electricians,plumbers,artisans and layer foundation for industrialization.You can continue to churn graduates in your black market economy

Kenyans have always failed their exams woefully. They are ill prepared and frivolous. That's why the government though switching to CBC, which it blindly imported, would help. But even CBC is already a failure in Kenya. Dead on arrival due to poverty and poor preparation.

A civilian rule that comes in 2yrs and get booted cannot count my friend - unless you want to split hairs like you're known for.
Ghana military rule 1965-2002. That is total of 37 yrs.
I am not counting Rawling 10yrs - because there is no way a butcher like Rawlings can become a democrats suddenly.
He run Ghana with a tight fist until 2002.
Real democracy started when bowed out - and now Ghana has had two decades of civilian rule.

obaaderemi:
22 years of military rule in total. Not the 40 you claimed. And since the 90s Ghana has enjoyed unbroken civilian rule. How does that tally with your claim that Ghana just emerged from military rule? You are daft.

mtisQ:

yeap life be like that...i find that little man down there is very smart only that he hasnt been given a chance...

Brother. Why is shackman having some inferiority complex ?.. He's always insecure anytime someone mention his country.

If Kenya was like SA. And I see progressive countries using Kenya as a yardstick for progress, then I will be a very happy man. At least I will be happy because Africa is growing

For instance, when I see ghana vs Uganda debate, and I happen to learn that Uganda is aiming at Kenya, and it has overtaken her in a thing or two so far, I will be happy.

Mkenya2019:
Watch this documentary of Kenya in 1979 and we can talk after that.

Once you watch this documentary - you will understand why Kenya has always been a serious country - not a hell hole like Nigeria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKs3xN7I-X0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw2VMALZbxw

Kenya has always been a hellhole of biblical proportions, what with plague like starvation?

Mkenya2019:
You killed ARM. Your power blackouts and your ever weakening currency and forex controls. That is why it's insane for a company to invest in Tanzania

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/business/article/2001258006/how-arm-aggressive-expansion-into-dar-has-left-pradeep-in-tears
But several things went wrong.
In 2015, there was a general power shortage in Tanzania and this was partly because the Government had some dispute with the independent power producers who switched off their plants and there was some rationing. So its Tanga operation was affected.

In April 2015, the company was hit by a devaluation that cost it about 28 and 21 per cent of its value in Tanzania and Kenya, respectively.

Hohohohohohohoho Hohohohohohohoho
You said,we killed it?
Son,if really we killed it,why dangote is still working? Why Lafarge is still standing? Why Heildeberg ( the biggest producer in TZ) is still expanding?

My advice..
Don't come to TZ with your little coins. Tz is not a small nation.Imagine your ARM came with around 200 million trying to invest in cement factory,while Dangote is poured 700 million,Chinese guys are investing over 1 billion in Tanga,Heildeberg is also in billions,while you,a Kenyan,come with 200! Can u compete? You even lacked brain

Mkenya2019:
A civilian rule that comes in 2yrs and get booted cannot count my friend - unless you want to split hairs like you're known for.
Ghana military rule 1965-2002. That is total of 37 yrs.
I am not counting Rawling 10yrs - because there is no way a butcher like Rawlings can become a democrats suddenly.
He run Ghana with a tigh fist until 2002.

Where did you get ur info. The military ruled Ghana untill 2002? Show me

obaaderemi:
He's demented. Can you believe the nonsense he types!
Ghana emerging from military era.

Infact that guy has gone mad

Mkenya2019:
GDP... Kenya 110B. South Africa 330B. That is small mountain to climb if you consider in 2011 was 40B - so we meet in 2031 - and compare notes.

415b

+things looking up
+new government loading
+oil exploration
+helium exploration
+new tech school curriculum
+new cities coming up
+rejuvenation and clean up of cities underway
+construction and opening of renewables
Etc

So you didnt watch the video but want to continue with your ignorant drivel

We have always had world media and free liberal media. We highlight our stories. Yes there are Turkana and others living in deserts who sometimes starve. If your media highlighted the number of NIgeria being killed daily alone - it's staggering.

Now one Turkana starving doesnt mean 50 millions of Kenya are starving.

In my place Kericho we dont know what to starve look like

obaaderemi:
Kenya has always been a hellhole of biblical proportions, what with plague like starvation?

SUFFERInSMILIIN:


I cannot understand the reason taking the fight from nairaland to Facebook and Twitter how interesting

*It is what it is*

Some people can't stand the heat

Shma:

Brother. Why is shackman having some inferiority complex ?.. He's always insecure anytime someone mention his country.

If Kenya was like SA. And I see progressive countries using Kenya as a yardstick for progress, then I will be a very happy man. At least I will be happy because Africa is growing

Just read btw the lines ...his writings can tell alot..that there is trouble down there ..if my country was way developed i wouldnt mind folks talking crap about it..actually i would enjoy the show..But that SAn is troubled...its like he scared of our progress..

Rawlings did 10yrs from 1993 to 2002. We know Rawling was not a great democrat or maybe he was.

Wizzzzmike:


Where did you get ur info. The military ruled Ghana untill 2002? Show me

AfriqueDuZuid:


I'm not stupid I won't argue over the fact kenya is way behind, even with the inflated stuff.

No amount of posting 6 neibourhoods of Nairobi, or 27km road will change that fact that you decades away even stands still without any growth, u fortunately for you things are looking up ratings agency agree too.

Stop overreacting. Are you on your periods? So where is a mere 27km coming from? You do realize Kenya is the only country doing the longest elevated expressway in Africa? The only person who is so jealous about it is you.

Any person who sides with you is very stupid.

Dangote learnt from ARM and built their own power station. He arm twisted you to import South Africa coal and later you gave him Mtwara gas. Business small or large should thrive. Your country is almost a morgue for business stupid enough to invest there.

Kazikazi:
Hohohohohohohoho Hohohohohohohoho
You said,we killed it?
Son,if really we killed it,why dangote is still working? Why Lafarge is still standing? Why Heildeberg ( the biggest producer in TZ) is still expanding?

My advice..
Don't come to TZ with your little coins. Tz is not a small nation.Imagine your ARM came with around 200 million trying to invest in cement factory,while Dangote is poured 700 million,Chinese guys are investing over 1 billion in Tanga,Heildeberg is also in billions,while you,a Kenyan,come with 200! Can u compete? You even lacked brain

Kazikazi:
Hohohohohohohoho Hohohohohohohoho
You said,we killed it?
Son,if really we killed it,why dangote is still working? Why Lafarge is still standing? Why Heildeberg ( the biggest producer in TZ) is still expanding?

My advice..
Don't come to TZ with your little coins. Tz is not a small nation.Imagine your ARM came with around 200 million trying to invest in cement factory,while Dangote is poured 700 million,Chinese guys are investing over 1 billion in Tanga,Heildeberg is also in billions,while you,a Kenyan,come with 200! Can u compete? You even lacked brain

an thats why we call you folks slow..you bragging about dagote opening stuff down there while you folks cant even start a single factory...Kenya got hundreds of investment right there an you folks just relaxing-under coconut trees just day dreaming stuff..who bewitched you..