We should focus on our strengths not trying to copy a new style of play

Mujtahida:

It's high time we developed other strengths so we don't become one style pony

Napoleon55:

Ejuke has skill,but does he have d skillset to play 10 for us?

I don't think he will do so well in that position for now.
It's going to take a lot of time for him to master that position .
We don't have d luxury of time to experiment now.

And it's not every player who can dribble and run with d ball can successfully play 10.
I wonder how difficult it is to understand this.

If we can't find a natural 10,
there r other formations that does require natural 10 we can adopt and achieve results.

for now the 2 players in the current super eagles team that is meant for that position is iwobi and aribo other names wey una Dey throw up here na just mere pretenders wey una go still come back to abuse here after a dismal performance

Being a good CAM as it is preferred nowadays goes beyond turns and flicks good examples are Fernandez and de Byrune ie less skills but very efficient, direct and good team players

Mk flicks and turns no Dey deceive una cus football don evolve beyond that level

charlesemeka85:
for now the 2 players in the current super eagles team that is meant for that position is iwobi and aribo other names wey una Dey throw up here na just mere pretenders wey una go still come back to abuse here after a dismal performance

Being a good CAM as it is preferred nowadays goes beyond turns and flicks good examples are Fernandez and de Byrune ie less skills but very efficient, direct and good team players

Mk flicks and turns no Dey deceive una cus football don evolve beyond that level

I'm not one of them,I've never been one of those who called for ejike to play 10 for us or even b our playmaker .

From my comments u quoted ,u should b able to deduce what my stance r on that midfield role.

But if it was Nwakali u were implying on,
I assure u,when he eventually given the opportunity ,he will surely surprise u.

We understand u have a soft spot for aribo,but he has been just average for us,
He was actually d one been pretending in that position for us.

Aribo cannot b trusted with that position ,or the role of play making for us,when a better option appears,he will simply make way n relinquish that no. 10 shirt for us.

charlesemeka85:
for now the 2 players in the current super eagles team that is meant for that position is iwobi and aribo other names wey una Dey throw up here na just mere pretenders wey una go still come back to abuse here after a dismal performance

Being a good CAM as it is preferred nowadays goes beyond turns and flicks good examples are Fernandez and de Byrune ie less skills but very efficient, direct and good team players

Mk flicks and turns no Dey deceive una cus football don evolve beyond that level

You are right. Only Iwobi and Aribo can play No.. 10 for Eagles at the moment, but problem I have with both is; they are limited with pass range. None of them can play long pass decisively.

Austin Eguavoen seems understand the Naijaway of Football. Also seems he mastered very well Westerhof's tactics and style of play. We need a Coach who's gonna play Naijaway not forcing foreign style (philosophy) on us.

It's saddening Eagles Matches are getting so bored to watch these days. 1994 to 2000, one thing is certain, we would outplay our Opponents with entertaining football.

Nowadays, we are even getting outplayed on our home soil by small Teams. If Eguavoen does well at AFCON, he should be allowed to lead us to Qatar 2022. I am tired of foreign Coaches, cos last time we had good foreign Coach was when Jo succeeded Westerhof.

Napoleon55:

I'm not one of them,I've never been one of those who called for ejike to play 10 for us or even b our playmaker .

From my comments u quoted ,u should b able to deduce what my stance r on that midfield role.

But if it was Nwakali u were implying on,
I assure u,when he eventually given the opportunity ,he will surely surprise u.

We understand u have a soft spot for aribo,but he has been just average for us,
He was actually d one been pretending in that position for us.

Aribo cannot b trusted with that position ,or the role of play making for us,when a better option appears,he will simply make way n relinquish that no. 10 shirt for us.

aribo isn't a pretender he his actually fit for the job and him and iwobi owns that position and nwakali will still be regarded as a 3rd choice when he makes it into the national team Squad which his performance will let us know if he will contend for the 10 shirt and all thanks to rorh for limiting aribo's forward play to make you think he can't be trusted go and watch him against Brazil and Ukraine then you will see rorh was actually the cause for him not looking like the aribo of rangers

babatundey5:
We should focus on our strengths not trying to copy a new style of play

for a long time Wenger had this mentality which meant Sir Alex Mou and to a large degree Allardyce knew just what to do to beat Arsenal. Until the latter days of his reign before he realized that some opponents deserve special tactics

Oasis001:


You are right. Only Iwobi and Aribo can play for Eagles at the moment, but problem I have with both is; they are limited with pass range. None of them can play long pass decisively.

Austin Eguavoen seems understand the Naijaway of Football. Also seems he mastered very well Westerhof's tactics and style of play. We need a Coach who's gonna play Naijaway not forcing foreign style (philosophy) on us.

It's saddening Eagles Matches are getting so bored to watch these days. 1994 to 2000, one thing is certain, we would outplay our Opponents with entertaining football.

Nowadays, we are even getting outplayed on our home soil by small Teams. If Eguavoen does well at AFCON, he should be allowed to lead us to Qatar 2022. I am tired of foreign Coaches, cos last time we had good foreign Coach was when Jo succeeded Westerhof.

recently, we’ve had more local coaches than foreign, between Lagerbeer and Rohrbish we had 3-4 local coaches, so how can you be tired of what we barely had?

jihday:
for a long time Wenger had this mentality which meant Sir Alex Mou and to a large degree Allardyce knew just what to do to beat Arsenal. Until the latter days of his reign before he realized that some opponents deserve special tactics

correct, then Jose Mourinho invent the long balls , with deadly counter to teach those tiki taka playing teams a lesson,

it worked magic with inter Milan, it frustrates both Klopp and Pep,


lesson is whatever you are know for always have a plan B and C

TFLASHOGEE:
aribo isn't a pretender he his actually fit for the job and him and iwobi owns that position and nwakali will still be regarded as a 3rd choice when he makes it into the national team Squad which his performance will let us know if he will contend for the 10 shirt and all thanks to rorh for limiting aribo's forward play to make you think he can't be trusted go and watch him against Brazil and Ukraine then you will see rorh was actually the cause for him not looking like the aribo of rangers

Aribo is good for rangers no doubt,but for eagles,he has been average apart from his game against brazil

charlesemeka85:
once a player don dribble 2 or 3 players for super eagles match em don become the new jay jay and what follows is the cry for him to be deployed in the number 10 position

Leave them. Ejuke does not have what he takes to be a ten. Appears to be limited when it comes to distributing the ball.
A lot of things make a 10: all round vision, high sense of awareness, dribbling and good passing skills and much more.

MetalJigsaw:
It is just an experiment bro. Ejuke has the skill set so trying him there is a sensible and a logical approach.

We all know he's a winger and not a ten, but the fact that he's skillful, agile and with a good passing ability, trying him at the 10 role is a great idea.


It is still under probability wether or not Ejuke can flourish in the 10 position, it's a 50/50.

Well, I think Rohr played him centrally in the awaymatch against CAR

Rohr’s Best XI (4-2-3-1):
Okoye; Aina, Balogun, Ekong, Collins; Mikel, Ndidi; Moses, Iwobi, Musa; Ighalo.

Source: Soccernet

jihday:
recently, we’ve had more local coaches than foreign, between Lagerbeer and Rohrbish we had 3-4 local coaches, so how can you be tired of what we barely had?

.... and what are their Achievements with the Team?!

Base owngoalnigeria which i don't trust Amoo, Lookman and Ovie Ejaria are the three New players included in the afcon provisional squad by Rohr

Oasis001:


.... and what are their Achievements with the Team?!

Afcon title,World Cup round of 16. Now which foreign coach can beat that

Caf disallowed the inclusion of Kelechi Nwakali and Alhasan Yusuf to the super eagles afcon provisional list

Damioduso1:
Caf disallowed the inclusion of Kelechi Nwakali and Alhasan Yusuf to the super eagles afcon provisional list

That list submitted early yikes

Why? Do they have power for such?

Damioduso1:
Caf disallowed the inclusion of Kelechi Nwakali and Alhasan Yusuf to the super eagles afcon provisional list

cromz:
Afcon title,World Cup round of 16. Now which foreign coach can beat that

Are you seriously asking me that Question? You may need to calm down, read the previous posts again.

Mujtahida:

Leave them. Ejuke does not have what he takes to be a ten. Appears to be limited when it comes to distributing the ball.
A lot of things make a 10: all round vision, high sense of awareness, dribbling and good passing skills and much more.

Ejuke even gonna laughs at idea of playing him in No. 10. He's a good Dribbler, but poor in decision making. I don't know if Nwakali still has it in his Sleeves, cos I'll rather playing him in the hole than Ejuke.

Oasis001:


.... and what are their Achievements with the Team?!

it is not about foreign or local but getting a competent coach. Since 2000 we’ve only made 2 Afcon finals 1 foreign 1 local, failed to qualify for 2 Afcon courtesy of local coaches, failed to qualify for 1 World Cup courtesy of a local coach. We need a competent coach, we don’t need to be shouting local every time. it’s not like they’ve been spectacular for us

humility33:


Yeah 3 games will reveal much about his playing style but i am not too happy that he is stuck on the 4 4 2 formation.... which he has an alternative like 4 5 1 formation to make for counter and thick the midfield when playing against attacking minded teams like Senegal/Algeria

What's has been the SE attacking formation when our fullbacks are with the attack? I've not really been able to pinpoint which. Also looking at which Eguavoen will use at AfCON.

Ejuke vs Iwobi vs Aribo for 10, under Eguavoen?


Ejuke can then be a sub if that's how he wants but as others have opined, decision making. He can just zap out and go solo when teammates are expecting a pass in key positions. I hope its a secondary decision. Its Iwobi's and that's how it should be.


I miss Etebo. Reliable. Hope we have just that next year?

jihday:
it is not about foreign or local but getting a competent coach. Since 2000 we’ve only made 2 Afcon finals 1 foreign 1 local, failed to qualify for 2 Afcon courtesy of local coaches, failed to qualify for 1 World Cup courtesy of a local coach. We need a competent coach, we don’t need to be shouting local every time. it’s not like they’ve been spectacular for us

Same.as foreign too..so jihday abeg rest on foreign..I av later conclude dt if we can't settle for a grade A foreign coach,den it's better we stick to our locals..dey re d same when it comes to result achievement so far..no difference,so y waste tax payer money over what u can get here..its DT simple

do4luv14:
You guys are forgetting about Etebo Karo, our own tireless powerhouse worker,

one of the reasons we struggled to grind out result, which finally resulted to Baba Rohr redcard

Onyeka be able to play it better than him? I see him as an upgrade. But its specu till we see it live in action as it was for Karo that year.

elyte89:


Same.as foreign too..so jihday abeg rest on foreign..I av later conclude dt if we can't settle for a grade A foreign coach,den it's better we stick to our locals..dey re d same when it comes to result achievement so far..no difference,so y waste tax payer money over what u can get here..its DT simple

Simple... If we must hire a foreign coach, it has to been a top grade one... One with a proven record as a winner.. Not all these ekuke Oyinbo coaches scattered all over Africa looking for countries to swindle...

elyte89:


Same.as foreign too..so jihday abeg rest on foreign..I av later conclude dt if we can't settle for a grade A foreign coach,den it's better we stick to our locals..dey re d same when it comes to result achievement so far..no difference,so y waste tax payer money over what u can get here..its DT simple

what do you mean by grade A? Should we just be hiring tactically inept local coaches just because we want to? In as much as we want to criticize Rohr he showed he’s at least better than Siasia and Oliseh. We can get a very decent foreign coach abeg, he doesn’t have to be at Pep level to achieve the minimum. Maybe because I’ve seen enough local coaches sha, from Onigbinde to Chukwu to Austin to Keshi to Amodu bar keshi the football was always dull, drab with average or ok results

It seems a lot of you are CAUGHT UP in a nostalgic era of entertainment football. Where dribbling, showboating without commensurate end product was the order of the day.

Sorry to inform you that FOOTBALL HAS MOVED ON, that kind of football is pleasing to the eyes but will not win you tournaments.

It's now about cohesion, work rate and END PRODUCT, I really do hope that my friend Eguavon is not sentimental and emotive about a bygone era that no longer exists.

It's the same mentality that makes you assess players based on youth football exploits of donkey years ago.

Dribbling showboating without end product is essentially rubbish in today's highly tactical and disciplined strategic planned football environment.

I remember when Mahrez, Raheem, etc did all that dribbling and showboating, they don't do that anymore , it's all about END PRODUCT.

There is such emotive bias among many here some are blinded by sentiment based preference not HERE and NOW performance.

In this regard KC is off the boil , essentially out of his 5 seasons at Leicester in the EPL he has had only one very good season the rest 3 and a half have been abysmal. He should be dropped until he finds form for now.

The HERE and NOW forward players are Awoniyi and Dennis they are doing better than Victor O. as it stands currently. Many will not like that .

I really believe after suffering a serious fracture to the face including eye socket he should not be going to the AFCON. He should be allowed to recover properly and get match fit.

Nwakali is a non starter , has DONE NOTHING WHATSOEVER to deserve a call up to the SE, he is not even outstanding in the lower quality Segunda Division.

The hypocrisy and bigoted double standard we show here is mind boggling. When I would mention Nigerian origin players in the Championship, many here will be screaming bias and prejudice. That the Championship is a poor level for the SE.

Not too long ago our arguably best Midfielder Etebo, after a very good World cup went to Stoke in the Championship. I actually expected him to be the next Ngole Kante, but it didn't happen, he was ok but not outstanding in the league. That accolade of outstanding went to Olise, Eze, Ovie, etc

Luckily Etebo is in the EPL playing for Watford currently not too much to report he is injured and will be out for month's.

The Championship is a league where young players leave and go straight to the top leagues and clubs more than any other second tier league in Europe. Omar Richard left Reading straight to Bayern Munich another example.

We have centred on a very few number of players and ignored the rest, players who are not necessarily making waves.

We still talk about Sadiq from the Segunda Division on a very regular basis. Some even compare him to Adebayo giving him all kinds of accolades . He has scored 8 goals in the Segunda Divisions. Elijah who plays for Luton is not in the mix although he has scored 10 in the Championship. Personally I really don't rate both of them as SE quality.

Some have decided to practice quasi tribalism with Nigeria origin players in Europe Vs Nigerian players from Nigeria. Not sure why ❓are some more Nigerian than others. Showing prejudice and open discrimination.

Terms are used like " he is one of our own" etc it's just petty small minded ignorance and narrow mindedness. We even decide who we think is more patriotic in the Nigerian context.

elyte89:


Same.as foreign too..so jihday abeg rest on foreign..I av later conclude dt if we can't settle for a grade A foreign coach,den it's better we stick to our locals..dey re d same when it comes to result achievement so far..no difference,so y waste tax payer money over what u can get here..its DT simple

even keshi who seem to be the only decent one of the lots had a very good CV unlike the rest who got the job on a platter

charlesemeka85:
for now the 2 players in the current super eagles team that is meant for that position is iwobi and aribo other names wey una Dey throw up here na just mere pretenders wey una go still come back to abuse here after a dismal performance

Being a good CAM as it is preferred nowadays goes beyond turns and flicks good examples are Fernandez and de Byrune ie less skills but very efficient, direct and good team players

Mk flicks and turns no Dey deceive una cus football don evolve beyond that level

Many are still stuck in history , that type of football is will see get slaughtered now.

They really don't understand football has moved on.

Napoleon55:

I'm not one of them,I've never been one of those who called for ejike to play 10 for us or even b our playmaker .

From my comments u quoted ,u should b able to deduce what my stance r on that midfield role.

But if it was Nwakali u were implying on,
I assure u,when he eventually given the opportunity ,he will surely surprise u.

We understand u have a soft spot for aribo,but he has been just average for us,
He was actually d one been pretending in that position for us.

Aribo cannot b trusted with that position ,or the role of play making for us,when a better option appears,he will simply make way n relinquish that no. 10 shirt for us.

You cannot be an anonymous mouse in low level football for the past 5 year's and all of a sudden become a TIGER in the SE.

You are blinded to irrationality with your emotive preferences.

When he went Arsenal Saka, Folarin, Smith-Row, Okonkwo, etc were 12/13 years old or thereabouts and they have left him far behind.

40-man provisional list submitted to CAF by the former Super Eagles gaffer, Gernot Rohr

It looks reasonable though..

https://www.owngoalnigeria.com/2021/12/22/revealed-super-eagles-afcon-provisional-list-submitted-by-rohr-three-new-players-in/