Kambols95:


Packaging dey there too ooo, I heard from a reliable source that most of these regular guys on this thread clients give jobs to are not even Professionals in the built arena. Yet, they parade themselves as Engineers, Builders and Architects(as the case may be).

Someone without professional inclination will act anyhow to a client because he doesn't have tie or bond with the professional body.

Clients should ask for current Practice license before giving a job out to these so called Vendors. I think that will in a way reduce issues of this nature. My humble opinion ☺️

good, as they do that, they should also be able to pay a licensed Architect or a professional the fees as stipulated by the body, the way it was stipulated.

IDnoble80:
are you guys trying to blame the QS or what!? I don’t get it..:

Brabus was paid over 97% of the total contract sum? Why don’t u question him as to where he didn’t buy and store materials at that time? What do you expect? You guys should at least pity the client. He did his part but brabus didn’t!!

And when they call him to come to the site for evaluation did he show up? No he didn’t.. claiming he was busy !!! You guys should learn how to ask the right questions

What other materials did he need for building carcass? What else did you want to see on ground? Have you considered that the building was at roofing stage in about two months?
Do the maths. A contract of about #15M. Let’s even agree that the balance left is #2M. Therefore #13M was actually used. Isn’t that about 90% completion before termination?
The issue here is about what is left.

sonnie10:


What other materials did he need for building carcass? What else did you want to see on ground? Have you considered that the building was at roofing stage in about two months?
Do the maths. A contract of about #15M. Let’s even agree that the balance left is #2M. Therefore #13M was actually used. Isn’t that about 90% completion before termination?
The issue here is about what is left.

Don't assume wrongly here.

It wasn't also about 2 months but from May to September.

It was not just roofing that was left undone, read further.

The QS will post how he arrived at his value haven been part of the project from the start and haven also visited site when the contract was terminated to take pictures and see the current state of work.

I also have invoices of all jobs done expected of N3xt which can be verified physically and otherwise.

somehow:
Let's even put it this way

I paid 97.5% in advance for a reason

Lie!!

Anyone who know me knows I do milestone based payment. The only reason we had to accept advance payment was because of the I crease in cost of reinforcement the very first day the project was to commence.
You were duly informed and I explained the implication of not stocking up to you.
Your QS confirmed the rise in cost of reinforcement and approved the upfront payment for reinforcement.
Interestingly I bought all the reinforcement to slab stage at once. Check the thread and stop twisting things.

I attach screenshot below for reference.

To buy all the needed materials for storage on site to avoid rise in cost.

Can you at least mention the materials that were not readily on site? Let me see if you have anything to share sir.

Just feel free to share the extra things you bought that I’ve not provided. Please note we walked this route during the review and I asked you and the QS to provide evidence that you paid for certain things.
I even atrached pictures to show you when I provided those things.

For someone who doesn’t visit site but only rely on what he was told, I don’t expect anything less.

Remember I attached the correspondence I had with your supervisor to show that I gave him money for all he needed for the job.

Pls kindly share those things you bought sir.

Questions everyone should ask him is

If he truly bought materials needed and kept on site, why then am I here asking for my refund?

I’m only providing refund for the roofing sheet that has not been installed, the coping yet to be poured and other accessories that comes with roof installation. Nothing more.

That you spent money on trusses is not my worry because the trusses has been delivered as at April 2021.
I’m also 100% confident you’re not asking me to provide a refund for blockwork.

Need I remind you sir that I’m also providing a refund for the atrium glass that got broken on site due to the fact that we delivered it earlier than when it’ll be ready for installation.
I’m sure insensitivity led you to ask for a refund for that which I’m happy to give back.

The reason he asked for payment in advance at every stage has been defeated and can be tagged as deceit.

Please kindly provide evidence sir.

He deceived me into releasing money in advance without buying all materials as expected.

Feel free sir to list out all the materials that has not been bought. I’ll be happy to debunk the LIES in the open like I always do.

I remembered your QS was asking for scaffold and he sent me a funny picture to show me you bought bamboo. Very laughable though!

Now I ended up using my own money to buy materials at the current rate to complete the jobs he abandoned for months.

If you are made to buy materials because someone recommended it, it’s not my fault. You could at least have double check with me before going ahead to buy buy buy.

Yet telling the house he's only going to pay at the rate at which the funds were released to him 7 to 9 months ago.

Who does that?

The picture of the building 7 months ago is still on the thread, please kindly feel free to share what has been done different on the building and let’s see how much you’ve been ripped sir.
Why are you afraid to share sir?

As at October 2021, the blocks that I produced in May 2021 for the project are still on the site.
What else did we not buy bayi o?

Chekitaut supplied all the granite for the project as at April.

Even cement were kept in the store for several months without use.

I rest.

sonnie10:


What other materials did he need for building carcass? What else did you want to see on ground? Have you considered that the building was at roofing stage in about two months?
Do the maths. A contract of about #15M. Let’s even agree that the balance left is #2M. Therefore #13M was actually used. Isn’t that about 90% completion before termination?
The issue here is about what is left.

welldone assistant QS

Breakdown of items in the valuation.

Questions are welcomed.

n3xt:


Lie!!

Anyone who know me knows I do milestone based payment. The only reason we had to accept advance payment was because of the I crease in cost of reinforcement the very first day the project was to commence.
You were duly informed and I explained the implication of not stocking up to you.
Your QS confirmed the rise in cost of reinforcement and approved the upfront payment for reinforcement.

I attach screenshot below for reference.



Can you at least mention the materials that were not readily on site? Let me see if you have anything to share sir.

Just feel free to share the extra things you bought that I’ve not provided. Please note we walked this route during the review and I asked you and the QS to provide evidence that you paid for certain things.
I even atrached pictures to show you when I provided those things.

For someone who doesn’t visit site but only rely on what he was told, I don’t expect anything less.

Remember I attached the correspondence I had with your supervisor to show that I gave him money for all he needed for the job.

Pls kindly share those things you bought sir.




I’m only providing refund for the roofing sheet that has not been installed, the coping yet to be poured and other accessories that comes with roof installation. Nothing more.

That you spent money on trusses is not my worry because the trusses has been delivered as at April 2021.
I’m also 100% confident you’re not asking me to provide a refund for blockwork.

Need I remind you sir that I’m also providing a refund for the atrium glass that got broken on site due to the fact that we delivered it earlier than when it’ll be ready for installation.
I’m sure insensitivity led you to ask for a refund for that which I’m happy to give back.



Please kindly provide evidence sir.



Feel free sir to list out all the materials that has not been bought. I’ll be happy to debunk the LIRS in the open like I always do.

I remembered your QS was asking for scaffold and he sent me a funny picture to show me you bought bamboo. Very laughable though!



If you are made to buy materials because someone recommended it, it’s not my fault. You could at least have double check with me before going ahead to buy buy buy.



The picture of the building 7 months ago is still on the thread, please kindly feel free to share what has been done different on the building and let’s see how much you’ve been ripped sir.
Why are you afraid to share sir?

As at October 2021, the blocks that I produced in May 2021 for the project are still on the site.
What else did we not buy bayi o?

Chekitaut supplied all the granite for the project as at April.

Even cement were kept in the store for several months without use.

I rest.

This is very simple.

Tell the house what you left on site as at on the 25th of September that was to be used to complete the job.

Tell the house when you got the first and last Batches of payment.

Tell the house why you have refunds to make if you actually bought the materials and left them on site as at May you got paid 97.5%

Lets see who's lying here.

And please show with proof what you left on site as at 25th of September.

Pictures as at November 2021, less than a month after he was disengaged.

Lets compare his own pictures before 25th.

Everyone should observe the difference.

Edit : Images removed after serving their purpose.

somehow:


Don't assume wrongly here.

It wasn't also about 2 months but from May to September.

It was not just roofing that was left undone, read further.

The QS will post how he arrived at his value haven been part of the project from the start and haven also visited site when the contract was terminated to take pictures and see the current state of work.

I also have invoices of all jobs done expected of N3xt which can be verified physically and otherwise.

Please sir let’s not present this matter as if they are abstract, non physical objects.
If you could, please give the house a brief detail of what was left undone. Don’t add figures to it.
We would like to have an idea of scope of work that was incomplete before termination.

somehow:


This is very simple.

Tell the house what you left on site as at on the 25th of September that was to be used to complete the job.

Tell the house when you got the first and last Batches of payment.

Tell the house why you have refunds to make if you actually bought the materials and left them on site as at May you got paid 97.5%

Lets see who's lying here.

And please show with proof what you left on site as at 25th of September.

The construction thread is there na to see pictures of what has been done as at May.

Show me what you did different sir. It’s pretty simple!

I’ll be right back with he last picture before termination of the contract. Let’s see what you did different.

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Attached is picture of the house as at 25th September sent to me by my clients right hand man who was on the project from the beginning to the end.

He can confirm that I made payment for all the works done on the project till the last picture sent. I’ve even sent him additional payment for the conclusion of the remaining works.

Concluding part of the breakdown.

QSFemi:
Breakdown of items in the valuation.

Questions are welcomed.

sonnie10:

Please sir let’s not present this matter as if they are abstract, non physical objects.
If you could, please give the house a brief detail of what was left undone. Don’t add figures to it.
We would like to have an idea of scope of work that was incomplete before termination.

Check what the QS posted.

Check the pictures I posted above

Let him post the pictures of where he stopped before getting sacked.

There are things we did internally too. (casted 2 beams because the ones he casted were death traps).

We still have one more beam to cast on the kitchen exit door that he didn't do + the block work on top of it.

n3xt:


The construction thread is there na to see pictures of what has been done as at May.

Show me what you did different sir. It’s pretty simple!

I’ll be right back with he last picture before termination of the contract. Let’s see what you did different.

We are waiting for you to post yours haven done mine.

The QS posted that of the security house on your behalf yesterday. Pls post it here again. No need referring anyone elsewhere.

somehow:


Check what the QS posted.

Check the pictures I posted above

Let him post the pictures of where he stopped before getting sacked.

There are things we did internally too. (casted 2 beams because the ones he casted were death traps).

We still have one more beam to cast on the kitchen exit door that he didn't do + the block work on top of it.

Oga share picture of the house. Simple!

somehow:


We are waiting for you to post yours haven done mine.

The QS posted that of the security house on your behalf yesterday. Pls post it here again. No need referring anyone elsewhere.

I don’t take your QS a serious anymore since he can’t provide evidence of where the fictitious 126 pcs of 150mm blocks he claimed you bought were used on the security house.

I honestly don’t bother reading whatever he share anymore because it’s worthless to me after 4the review.

Once again, I’ll attach your security house here. Please kindly show me where 126 pcs of 150mm blocks were used.

I know we didn’t use so much 150mm blocks in the main house. Aiye o!

The coppings were casted, (iron, cement and labor paid) both for main house and security house

The roofing of both buildings were done and also felted

The big slab besides the fins was casted (L shaped)
The rest of the fins were casted (L shaped)
Block work was done from lintel to roof for security house

I made provision for the pillars for the security house since he claimed wasn't part of the 1.4m

We did the German floor for the security house

If you check the top floor of the main house, you'd see some block work we completed that won't be found on any of his pictures prior to 25th of September.

We repaired the trusses that was badly installed.

We bought and installed the atrium glass roof.

Everyone can see who is getting agitated already having been shown the difference.

sonnie10:

Please sir let’s not present this matter as if they are abstract, non physical objects.
If you could, please give the house a brief detail of what was left undone. Don’t add figures to it.
We would like to have an idea of scope of work that was incomplete before termination.

Check QsFemi's attachments above!

N3xt must post the pictures of the materials he left on site for all to see.

N3xt must post the pictures of the building he left on site too.

All sides for us to see the difference.

If I post them, he'd say I have edited them.

n3xt:


I don’t take your QS a serious anymore since he can’t provide evidence of where the fictitious 126 pcs of 150mm blocks he claimed you bought were used on the security house.

I honestly don’t bother reading whatever he share anymore because it’s worthless to me after 4the review.

Once again, I’ll attach your security house here. Please kindly show me where 126 pcs of 150mm blocks were used.

I know we didn’t use so much 150mm blocks in the main house. Aiye o!

He has posted the breakdown which you have copies of, talk to the house using that.

Everyone should take screenshots of the pictures on the other thread before he goes there to edit the pictures to the new ones I just posted.

If he can lie to me on site without knowing I was present, he can do anything.


Anytime I burst his lies, he goes gutter and start saying unpleasant words. I have them on whatsapp.

The only thing he's ready to accept is if the QS says he's not owing ₦1.

Edit: Images removed after serving their purpose.

somehow:
The coppings were casted, (iron, cement and labor paid) both for main house and security house

Not contested.

The roofing of both buildings were done and also felted

Not contested.

The big slab besides the fins was casted (L shaped)

The slab was casted in May. Check the thread.

The rest of the fins were casted (L shaped)

I already paid for the materials required for this. Ask your supervisor.

Block work was done from lintel to roof for security house

More than enough blocks were on site that I produced in May. The only block I bought from outside are 6 inches block because the quantity required is not worth the stress.

I made provision for the pillars for the security house since he claimed wasn't part of the 1.4m

I remembered you wanted 6 columns in the security house and I asked you how many columns do we have in the main house.

I didn’t claim it wasn’t there. I told you that you can’t pay for 10 pcs of iron rods for the whole security house and be asking for 6 pillars.

Kindly refer to the 2.1m quote. We only made provision for 10 pcs of 12mm iron rod for the security house.

We did the German floor for the security house

This was also laughable too! The QS claimed 8 bags was used for the flooring.
You can do 100 bags but you didn’t pay me that much sha.

If you check the top floor of the main house, you'd see some block work we completed that won't be found on any of his pictures prior to 25th of September.

Not contested.

We repaired the trusses that was badly installed.

I have nothing to say here. I offered to do it at no cost to you but you bluntly refused.

We bought and installed the atrium glass roof.

We paid for this and had it delivered on site as at May 2021. Check the record.
I’m happy to refund the cost.

Everyone can see who is getting agitated already having been shown the difference.

Is that all? When I saw 97.5% advance payment, I was expecting to see we bought 30 tons truck of granite, trailer load of cement etc.

It’s well sha!

n3xt:
The slab was casted in May. Check the thread.

You don't know the slab besides the fins again? Please post your picture showing the slab besides the fins being casted by May

I'm not talking about the M. Bedroom varanda slab.

I will screenshot the chat from the PM concerning your claim of sending him money to complete the L shaped fins (6 + 1 L shaped slab)

somehow:


Check what the QS posted.

Check the pictures I posted above

Let him post the pictures of where he stopped before getting sacked.

There are things we did internally too. (casted 2 beams because the ones he casted were death traps).

We still have one more beam to cast on the kitchen exit door that he didn't do + the block work on top of it.

These additions, are they part of the structural drawing/ design or just precautionary measures?

somehow:


You don't know the slab besides the fins again? Please post your picture showing the slab besides the fins being casted by May

I'm not talking about the M. Bedroom varanda slab.

You’re right. RC wall beside the fins.

I take that back.

sonnie10:


These additions, are they part of the structural drawing/ design or just precautionary measures?

One was the master bedroom toilet
Then that of the kitchen.

Check the pictures, they are.

Please post your pictures while we wait.

I will pick your rebuttal one after the other and post evidence.

n3xt:


More than enough blocks were on site that I produced in May. The only block I bought from outside are 6 inches block because the quantity required is not worth the stress.

Put a figure to the blocks you left on site.

The blocks we bought has been captured by the breakdown from the QS. Prove otherwise.

somehow:


I will screenshot the chat from the PM concerning your claim of sending him money to complete the L shaped fins (6 + 1 L shaped slab)

While awaiting the screenshot, may I ask if he paid for the materials used for the fins up till 25th Sept?

If no, who paid for the materials used for the fins in the picture. It’s definitely not you and not him but me.

BrickDevo:
good, as they do that, they should also be able to pay a licensed Architect or a professional the fees as stipulated by the body, the way it was stipulated.

Like a COREN registered we have our annual fees that we normally pay

n3xt:



This was also laughable too! The QS claimed 8 bags was used for the flooring.
You can do 100 bags but you didn’t pay me that much sha.
.

Challenge this from the breakdown posted by him.

n3xt:


While awaiting the screenshot, may I ask if he paid for the materials used for the fins up till 25th Sept?

If no, who paid for the materials used for the fins in the picture. It’s definitely not you and not him but me.

You have posted the pictures of the fins you did which was after you broke off the bad ones you did. You were doing woodwork ( for just 3 fins) because you wanted to reuse the woods to do others and this was only for the down sides before you were sent off.

From the 60k you sent him, we can see how much went to labor and what the labor did.

Are you saying your 60k completed the fins as against what he said here?

So how did you pay for the completion of the fins or did he lie against you?

Check the date of the chat.

somehow:


You have posted the pictures of the fins you did which was after you broke off the bad ones you did. You were doing woodwork ( for just 3 fins) because you wanted to reuse the woods to do others and this was only for the down sides before you were sent off.

From the 60k you sent him, we can see how much went to labor and what the labor did.

Are you saying your 60k completed the fins as against what he said here?

Smiles.

We used marine boards sir. I paid for those things from my pocket and I know what we did.

n3xt:


Smiles.

We used marine boards sir. I paid for those things from my pocket and I know what we did.

That's his message, so tell the house how you used less than 43k to buy cement, iron, do the woodwork, iron work, and casting of the 6 fins + slab

Note: from the 60k you sent, 14k was for old job done which was broken down for being inferior, 3k paid to remove them