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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 10:44pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
sonnie10:yes true, me I put a door to the steps that lead upstairs and kept everything there, thats how I came back to meet everything I bought from B4. Man got to think ahead. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 10:54pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
MMotimo: In my opinion, creating a 'Scammers list' will help notify people of who is a criminal and this is a good idea to at least prevent and also reduce these shameful and deceitful occurrences. We are laughing over this matter because we haven't lost money to a vendor. I see all these as 'simple fraud' that is not too different from what we already know. So its not worth wasting pages for. Madam, you have really tried to educate people. If possible you can create a thread with emphasis on 'Scammers in property section'. Just like the one in business section. I usually use the 'search' option before I engage any vendor, but not every member is aware not to talk of non-members of this platform. Thank you. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Iriruaga100(m): 11:01pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
sonnie10: Lol! You nor wan enter one chance motor abi? 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 11:02pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 11:12pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 11:12pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
Godisgreatest1:Good Idea, let us see if anyone who has been scammed will create a scammers list ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 11:17pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
Godisgreatest1: Thank you, Sir The problem is if I were to create a thread today, it would drown and remain in the background, no one would know about it. The first step is an active moderator to create a stickied (like this one) thread and maintain that thread. Once it’s stickied to the first page of this section, you can’t miss it. Preferably, 2 moderators for a section like this with so much money flowing through so that the moderation is active at all times and not abandoned as is the case with lawyer. There’s nothing stopping active members of this section from pushing for a functional moderator to restore sanity here. There are enough members whom I assume would be credible candidates for the post(s). Off the top of my head, there are a few I would recommend from this thread but in the end, folks have to be ready to lobby Seun or the supermods or whomever the big honcho is that can appoint a moderator(s). Mods like Justwise from travel and Tabbaz, the mod from the business section have active, tenured experience in moderation and clamping down on fraudsters. They would be great candidates if they have the capacity to add to their current sections. I find it heartbreaking that one man has continued to do this for over 10 years and it’s only a matter of time before another victim shows up. Cc Seun Lalasticlala Dominique Mynd44 6 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Iriruaga100(m): 11:26pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
erico2k2: Work of money hard! Who loose guard naim know. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 11:33pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
MMotimo: Just create the list...you have been talking about it for a while now on this thread....Also seems you have been talking to alot of moderators. Get on with it already . 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 11:36pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
MMotimo: I believe lawyer was made a moderator but he hasn’t been active for long… hajji Mufutau send as doing a good job before he was removed! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 11:50pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
twinskenny: Inactive lawyer does not deserve to be called a moderator. I don’t know why hajj was removed but even assuming Seun doesn’t want to use him, there are other regular, credible posters on this thread that can be used. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 11:56pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
dongc: YOU especially, with all your antecedents, do not get to tell me what to do! @ bolded Always easy to tell the ones that have no problem playing loose with the truth. Ask him to prove it now, he’ll take from the book of N3xt and start endless rambling. You are not someone I consider to be reputable nor respectable so I will do you the honour of ignoring any further outbursts from you. If you insist though, be prepared to get more than you bargained for. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 12:20am On Dec 29, 2021 |
MMotimo: You sre not being told...only a follow up of your last post...So you cannot do something you have been clamoring for ?? But someone else should do it. Right.how can you forget so soon ??you contacted a mod just a page up ?? Lol.. BTW the bolded haha very laughable ...your considerations and thoughts about me are absolutely useless and mean absolutely nothing to me...this place has been over the years a leisure and pass time for me...I have been here from day one even though I choose sit and read attitude. chip in when i can ..this is your 2mins..bye 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 12:26am On Dec 29, 2021 |
dongc: I see! In your mind, posting to Tabbaz about somehow’s name on the business section scammers list and creating a stickied scammers’ list in the property section are one and the same. The connection is at best nonsensical and at worst, mischievous. Now listen good! I know people like you are always on to the next thing, no attention span whatsoever but if you are going to read AND understand my posts, you need your comprehension skills at full alert otherwise feel free to just jump past. I very clearly detailed ( in the very post you first quoted) why my creating a list would not be effective. Go back and read slowly. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 1:00am On Dec 29, 2021 |
As much as I believe in innocence until the evidence proves otherwise. This has been a PR fiasco for the Vendor. This is why some companies insist on an arbitration clause because of the privacy involved in resolving disputes unlike litigation. However I know that even big names like Microsoft, Apple, Uber, etc have been involved in PR fiascos and are in still in business, so this is certainly not the end of the road for the Vendor. One other thing that has come up. Did the contract contain clauses that have to do with increases in prices of materials as well as remedies in the event of a breach. If not then it is hard to see how party A will accept party B's position on the matter. The parties were never in agreement on that matter and finding that middle ground after termination is going to be very difficult to achieve. It is like an unexpected divorce, it brings out of the worst even from the best of people. The QS also failed to understand that before you terminate a contract you tie all loose ends. People become more difficult after a contract goes south. They tend to become legalistic and will hang unto every right real or perceived, things that they might have let go, they will no longer let go. I hope he learns from this and improves his termination processes next time. The only way out now is for the courts to prove Vendor didn't err, and thereby clear his name on the record. The other way out, is to meet the Client half way, which should have ideally have been done long before this dispute hit the internet. I still believe it is not too late to meet the Client half way, this will go along way to clear his name albeit late. Even if that means getting a third party QS with zero affiliation to the Client to resolve the disputed figures. Reputation is gold. These things have a way of coming back to haunt someone in the future. If my name was being so maligned this way, I would definitely sue anyone and everyone involved to clear my name. The thing about contracts, all parties are equal, all rights are equal, if A wants to change a material term, B has to accept, if B doesn't accept the earlier position remains. Hence I can see why Client is holding positions the Vendor refuses to accept and vice versa Whenever there is such a deadlock, the proper thing is to involve an arbitrator or a mediator or a judge and agree to be bound by his or her ruling. I look forward to a resolution of this matter. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 1:03am On Dec 29, 2021 |
MMotimo:Bolded irrelevant...you did contact a MOD irrespective of what section ![]() What makes you rate yourself so high....you are rather inconsequential at least for me...have you ever made one meaningful post on this thread?? Rather than a Ghostbuster ?? Wtf man....channel this energy to ghosthunting...I dont have time for lullabies .you already got 2mins 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 1:11am On Dec 29, 2021 |
dongc: Hahaha now I’ve narrowed down your other moniker. Why are you being shy to use it? I don’t P.S. I’m not a ghostbuster but I can recommend a very good read , a thread right here on Nland that reads like a novel and sad as that true story is, it would be great reading for curious minds . |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 1:21am On Dec 29, 2021 |
MMotimo: Haha ![]() ![]() 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 1:26am On Dec 29, 2021 |
FEGEITOK: You think this contractor cares about clearing his name or reputation? (he has none in my estimate) He has been scamming on this platform for close to a decade!!! PR. Fiasco?? More like another like successful scam for him- botched job for the owner. The pictures from this incomplete project will be recycled to entice new clients on this platform. We have seen his game plan so many times,it is not even new to some of us. All he cares to do now is muddy the waters, let the issue die down and bury the issue deep down in the old pages of this thread. Just watch for the incessant posts coming to hide the history. 7 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 1:30am On Dec 29, 2021 |
smh... I hope it is clear to see (especially for the newcomers here) the behavior of our resident building quack. This issue is at the same place it was 3 months ago (Incomplete work that was grudgingly conceded to after running around in circles) after saying the client is "making a fuss out of nothing" lie.lie.lie.delay.delay,contest every word and sentence without proof.rinse,repeat let us see if he will refund even the N1 million that is not being contested Meanwhile the client has lost time and effort chasing this issue. On the issue of independent QS, Who will cover the cost for an independent QS? The client has hired his QS to do the estimate of work done and outstanding. Did our online quack builder do the same when given the opportunity at handover? Also as usual our resident quack also went ahead and revealed private information of his client. BUYERS BEWARE 4 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 1:38am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Stopthecap: Just another day in the dream world of time wasting, value eroding “solutions” much like the take him to court crew.
This is how criminality is dumbed down and massaged. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:43am On Dec 29, 2021 |
PrinceLat: Well received. Thanks! 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:54am On Dec 29, 2021 |
sonnie10: Thanks! I’m always ready to talk any day, any time. You know my position here on disputes. I always act as an impartial person called a "mediator" that helps parties in dispute try to reach a mutually acceptable resolution. mountmoriah vs cribking1 https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/1995#99020561 So I know what works and what won’t work and I make earliest recommendations. Childish rants and online banters won’t fix anything but a mutually agreed resolution by the parties in dispute. Unfortunately, one cannot be an umpire in his own game. Would I have acted different if it was someone else? Definitely! rotecch77 vs Rajput4real chekitaut vs Thenext chekitaut vs Segzy14 Cases were managed offline. 1 Share
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:28am On Dec 29, 2021 |
@Blessedsunny2 Are you still in Lagos or you’re already in the village? I left you a message on WhatsApp (yet to deliver) that I’ll need more South African Bricks. Thanks. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 7:38am On Dec 29, 2021 |
FEGEITOK: Did you see or read part of the contract I uploaded before typing this? 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 7:44am On Dec 29, 2021 |
n3xt: The last call you put across how many weeks ago, what did you promise to do? Did you do what you promised? If you did, why are we here? People can see he's not really ready for any resolution but to keep dragging and wasting my time further more after 9 months. My refund is 2m that I want from the 2.45m, talk on that here on this forum. I don't need to meet with you again in person because it's of no use. Refunding doesn't need any physical meeting. Agree here to how soon you are refunding me before the end of the 1st week of January 2022. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 8:00am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Na money I want hear now. Anything other than that is beating about the bush. Mr Bosun how much do you want to add to #1M? Some jobs dey cut. Consider this one as one of those. Even hunters dey set trap sometimes and na mouse ( the long mouth smelly type) the trap go come catch. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 8:18am On Dec 29, 2021 |
MMotimo: I'm not too concerned about the current fraud by, surprisingly, a known serial fraudstar. Rather my concern is about 'future or yet-to-be perpetuated fraud'. I joined this platform in 2019 and I only knew about all these after you shared the history here for several days. I read the details word for word and did my own research. It was amazing to me that a well known vendor that I contacted here for a job confirmed all what you said but chose to keep shut. Some people are wicked in this life. Now, what about those that are yet to join this platform?, the truth is most of them won't know. The warnings you gave are several pages behind, and that is probably why the number of victims of fraud by the same fraudstar and his accomplices will continue. When there is no moderator, the place becomes a 'den of thieves'. If the moderator isn't active, he should be made to or replaced. For the first time I visited 'business section' yesterday and I was pleased with what the moderator did there. Something similar or even better should be replicated here. Thank you. 6 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 8:24am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Good morning, compliment of the season to you all. Let me talk a bit about the ongoing saga btw brabus and somehow. @brabus your last post here I remember you told me then to forget money for the said client and I don’t talk much I just count it free work and I leave the money for him. .. I moved. You see there so many disputes that I have settled off line here more than 10 both in prosperity section and tech section which involves thousand and millions. There is one on property section here which involve A 30 tonnes capacity trailer and thank God the owner collected the lorry back within 2weeks without any police case it’s btw me as mediator and two of them I don’t need to mention names but some people knows Although is part of me bcs I was once a task force member in coker/ Orile giant building material mkt, we do settle dispute always. So back to this issue, you remember I called you some weeks back to discuss this issue in other to find a way to settle it with your esteemed client but we couldn’t go further again due to tight scheduled. It’s just a pity that for almost 10pages till now NO sign that this is coming to an end WHY people are just talking back and forth. And you also you didn’t handle it the way I believed it should be done as a professional WHY. Don’t forget there is no perfect person in this world we only have Good people. If you haven’t encounter issue like disputes ( not scam or fraud) in your line of business you are not complete yet but it’s depends on how you handle the situation. @ brabus I repeated again you didn’t handle this very well to my expectation. But I need to speak with you and the client off line and let’s see how it’s goes. ——— In this life make sure you have good intentions to all things then …..do your best and leave the rest…..Ebenezer Obe. 6 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 8:35am On Dec 29, 2021 |
rotecch77: What people should be asking him now should be about paying me within the stipulated time. At least I have given him concession in the amount to the refunded and also time. September 25th 2021 to 1st week of January 2022. 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 8:35am On Dec 29, 2021 |
PrinceLat: Traveller or common, we pull a cable for these when you have a two switching i.e entrance switch and a bedside switching. Like you have the two way switching in all the rooms. Do not agreed with him using tape for the 4mm. Let him go for the require length with the correct colour code. Let him go original Coleman because we have alot of Coleman in the market, re-brand, copper coated, imported Coleman 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:01am On Dec 29, 2021 |
rotecch77: Ogami he didn’t handle it well from the beginning, I wish he guide the opportunity jealously but he didn’t … shouldn’t even get here at all… just accept your fault apologize make concessions and move on… I can tell you that this client is not the type that owe contractors.. we got paid for the electrical part way back before it even get to our turn to work on site.. 7 Likes |
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