namo77:
Matthew 7 vs 1: "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

Spoken by the lips of Jesus Christ himself.... And not your fun interpretation of scripture...

The very same Jesus Christ also told you the following.

24 Stop judging by the way things look. Be fair and judge by what is really right.” - John 7 vs 24

The Word of God, the standard of righteousness we are to live by is meant, to be accepted in totally or nothing at all.

In Matthew 7 vs 1, Jesus Christ instructs us not to judge by our human standards but instead to judge all things - in John 7 vs 24 - according to the standard of righteousness which He, Jesus Christ embodies and gave to us, God's New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God.

Myer:


Lol like i say, we don't all have to share the same beliefs.
We can however choose to respect everyone's belief system.

I dont agree that we have to respect peoples believes. What you typed up there makes no sense and you need to know

jesusjnr2020:
You are entitled to disagree with my view, without having to resort to lies that it has no scriptural backing. You should be worried about your unscriptural comment, more than my view about repentance which is clearly scriptural.

If Jesus were here, you would also be having issues with Him as the Pharisees did, because you place such lesser matters over the more important things which He emphasized as repentance and the obedience of God's Word.

Unscriptural comment? When I quoted from the Bible to you. This is what overzealousness does. Speaking errors to mislead others all in the name of speaking personal views without speaking from the scriptures. You want to lead people to Christ, stay true to that than wanting to justify your personal view and in turn mislead others.

Did you say lesser matters? Infact, it is the lesser matters as you called it that determines the more important matters. Someone who doesn't take serious the gathering of believers, how will he then keep the faith going? On His own? Sometimes, I just wonder how people take the matter of salvation as talking about making heaven but when doing this misleading men to do otherwise.


Imagine you judging one to be like the Pharisees in issues with Christ. Who placed you a judge over me? It's sad what Gospel we claim to preach today. A Gospel of condemnation.

It matters

But only depends on you and your understanding


------- the world is a place where power tussle is ongoing 24/7

-- hence you need to take charge of the month, with prayers and faith confessions

It has worked for me throughout the years

Kobojunkie:
1. 2 or 3 of whom? Those who belong to Jesus Christ- those who trust and oney His commandments. Now, when His followers gather in His name, be it outside somewhere or in a brothel, Jesus Christ promises them He will be in their midst. Those who gather in your churches however submit themselves to the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches) which Jesus Christ warned was an abomination where the Truth of God is concerned. Can Jesus Christ go against His own Truth? Impossible!

2. Jesus Christ never said that.

3. What is religious style is instead to constantly confuse the doctrines and traditions of men, for the Truth of God. Jesus Christ warned you that those of you who do this worship Him in vain.

4. God explained to you over 2000 years ago that which constituted vain worship. He warned you that the following of doctrines and traditions of men in His name is nothing but vain worship that keeps you from following His Truth as you remain trapped instead in the lies - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13.

You don't need to be God to know God's Truth. His Truth and Law was given to you and I over 2000 years ago in Jesus Christ.

I see where your hatred is and it is of no use continuing this with you. You see all churches as the same and this is where the issue lies.

1. You know the Apostles backed then after learning from Christ went to Brothels to gather. Since, having a place to gather isn't so much important and could be anywhere.

2. The Bible warned of it. Read Hebrews 10:25.

3. The truth of God never went against seeking His face for the new year. It is your own mindset and personal view that subjected your thought and reasoning in this direction.

4. You keep mentioning doctrines and traditions as if the Churches don't follow Christ but only you knows it all and you are right.

I just see that you want just your view to prevail.

namo77:


What gives you the right and power or authority to judge another man's life choices and beliefs.... Who are you? Or rather What do you think you are?

The guy came here to do free marketing for his church and I shouldn't ask? Bunch of scammers

IrepChrist:
For those that will seek him genuinely it is very significant. You are seeking God in the early morning of a new year.

Scriptures says
"They that seek me early shall find me"

The early doesn’t mean “early in the morning”. No dey confuse us abeg.

Nauttyprof:
I see where your hatred is and it is of no use continuing this with you. You see all churches as the same and this is where the issue lies.

1. You know the Apostles backed then after learning from Christ went to Brothels to gather. Since, having a place to gather isn't so much important and could be anywhere.

2. The Bible warned of it. Read Hebrews 10:25.

3. The truth of God never went against seeking His face for the new year. It is your own mindset and personal view that subjected your thought and reasoning in this direction.

4. You keep mentioning doctrines and traditions as if the Churches don't follow Christ but only you knows it all and you are right.

I just see that you want just your view to prevail.

1. Jesus Christ did not call you to do as His apostles did but instead as He commands/asks. He told you that those who love Him are those who obey His commandments- not His apostles- John 14 vs 15 - 25. So, stop focusing on what the apostles did but on what Jesus Christ said.

2. The Bible did not such thing. Instead the author of the letter to the Hebrews, whose identity we are uncertain of, opined this.

3. God never said anything about seeking His face differently or specially in a new Year. The Lord's prayer, which He taught to us, calls on us to instead specially seek Him every day, this regardless of man's calendar additions. These holiday/New year traditions of yours are of men - religious ideas - not of God.

4. Your churches don't follow the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. Instead, they are built by men with foundations laid on the doctrines and traditions of men, which Jesus Christ condemned as lies.

I am not the only one who knows that what your churches teach are nothing but lies. Jesus Christ Himself warned His followers against such lies from over 2000 years ago. Even the world is aware that the doctrines and traditions of your churches stand in direct contradiction to the very teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ whom you all pretend you believe in.

Nauttyprof:


Unscriptural comment? When I quoted from the Bible to you. This is what overzealousness does. Speaking errors to mislead others all in the name of speaking personal views without speaking from the scriptures. You want to lead people to Christ, stay true to that than wanting to justify your personal view and in turn mislead others.

Did you say lesser matters? Infact, it is the lesser matters as you called it that determines the more important matters. Someone who doesn't take serious the gathering of believers, how will he then keep the faith going? On His own? Sometimes, I just wonder how people take the matter of salvation as talking about making heaven but when doing this misleading men to do otherwise.


Imagine you judging one to be like the Pharisees in issues with Christ. Who placed you a judge over me? It's sad what Gospel we claim to preach today. A Gospel of condemnation.

Even the devil quotes from the scriptures to mislead men, so if you think quoting from the scriptures to support your erroneous views means your comment is scriptural, then you been fooled.

I made a thread that's clearly backed by scriptures, especially the teachings of Christ, about the most important things in this life, such as repentance and the obedience of God's Word, which ought to be placed above the lesser things as church-going on the last night of the year, and youade the blunder of saying, that everything I said wasn't scripturally backed. Even after I showed you how highly flawed that saying was, instead of admitting it, you're still here claiming what you lack knowledge of.

It's only blind sentiments that would make you misinterpret this to mean that I'm against the church gathering, because it's clear that I was only speaking of one night, just one night, which is the last night of the year.

You obviously are not of God, otherwise you'd care about His interest and see the need of this post to make people repent and become more than church-goers but doers of God's Word.

As for me judging you to be as the Pharisees, you're hence proving me right, hypocritically accusing me of judging you when that's what you came here to do. Moreover you're acting exactly like them, because what you're doing is what they would do if they were here.

HardMirror:
I dont agree that we have to respect peoples believes. What you typed up there makes no sense and you need to know

Well, it's my choice.
And I wish you a prosperous new year bro.

jesusjnr2020:
No I shouldn't be there but with God. I should be with God and everyone else, including you, because church is not God.

So don't discourage people from coming to repentance and to God.

I would discourage people from placing church over God and repentance.

Church is the house of God,no?

jesusjnr2020:
Even the devil quotes from the scriptures to mislead men, so if you think quoting from the scriptures to support your erroneous views means your comment is scriptural, then you been fooled.

I made a thread that's clearly backed by scriptures, especially the teachings of Christ, about the most important things in this life, such as repentance and the obedience of God's Word, which ought to be placed above the lesser things as church-going on the last night of the year, and youade the blunder of saying, that everything I said wasn't scripturally backed. Even after I showed you how highly flawed that saying was, instead of admitting it, you're still here claiming what you lack knowledge of.

It's only blind sentiments that would make you misinterpret this to mean that I'm against the church gathering, because it's clear that I was only speaking of one night, just one night, which is the last night of the year.

You obviously are not of God, otherwise you'd care about His interest and see the need of this post to make people repent and become more than church-goers but doers of God's Word.

As for me judging you to be as the Pharisees, you're hence proving me right, hypocritically accusing me of judging you when that's what you came here to do. Moreover you're acting exactly like them, because what you're doing is what they would do if they were here.

Smiles. I didn't judge you but only told you not to move in error by writing personal views in the name of trying to preach salvation.

You never quoted any scripture but were just writing all based on your ideology and nothing else. Tell me where going for a cross over service and praying to God will make no difference. Is this from the Scriptures? Did God tell you this that those who go for cross over won't make any difference?

Now, get it right. I only stated that you expressed your personal views which is not supported by the scriptures. Mere ideology all in the name of trying to preach salvation.

Now, check the comments based on your post and see if the comments focused on salvation or instead raised people to say all sorts against the body of Christ. Is this the salvation message you intended?

You are so good at name calling and saying all sorts so as to support your stubborn view. We speak from the Scriptures alone and it is only the Gospel that saves (this is only the power of God unto salvation. Not your personal views or opinions).

Are all church goers? Are all heading to hell? To conclude in your post that it makes no difference says a lot as to how this 'holier than thou' mentality is affecting the message you carry. Let God do His work through you and stop doing things your own way for God

holyfather:
Church is the house of God,no?

Did Jesus Christ ask His followers to build Him any of your churches in His name?

Your churches are not of His Kingdom, neither are the doctrines and traditions that they are founded on, so how can they be said to be the house of God?

Kobojunkie:
Discourage people from doing all that which is against Jesus Christ, including your churches.

Junkie...
Go get some sleep.
It'll clear your head

holyfather:
Junkie...
Go get some sleep.
It'll clear your head

My head isn't the one that needs clearing though. I just spent the entire 2021 having it filled with understanding of God's Kingdom courtesy of Jesus Christ - Matthew 13 vs 10 - 17 & Mark 4 vs 22 - 28 & Matthew 25 vs 29.

Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus Christ ask His followers to build Him any of your churches in His name?

Your churches are not of His Kingdom, neither are the doctrines and traditions that they are founded on, so how can they be said to be the house of God?

So what did he say we should do?

holyfather:
So what did he say we should do?

Those who love Him are those who live their lives in continuous submission to and obedience of His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 25 that is what Jesus Christ said we should do. His friends are those who do as He asks of them - John 15 vs 14. The only way to honor God is to do as God asks - obedience.

Myer:


Well, it's my choice.
And I wish you a prosperous new year bro.

sure. Wish you same

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ did not call you to do as His apostles did but instead as He commands/asks. He told you that those who love Him are those who obey His commandments- not His apostles- John 14 vs 15 - 25. So, stop focusing on what the apostles did but on what Jesus Christ said.

2. The Bible did not such thing. Instead the author of the letter to the Hebrews, whose identity we are uncertain of, opined this.

3. God never said anything about seeking His face differently or specially in a new Year. The Lord's prayer, which He taught to us, calls on us to instead specially seek Him every day, this regardless of man's calendar additions. These holiday/New year traditions of yours are of men - religious ideas - not of God.

4. Your churches don't follow the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. Instead, they are built by men with foundations laid on the doctrines and traditions of men, which Jesus Christ condemned as lies.

I am not the only one who knows that what your churches teach are nothing but lies. Jesus Christ Himself warned His followers against such lies from over 2000 years ago. Even the world is aware that the doctrines and traditions of your churches stand in direct contradiction to the very teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ whom you all pretend you believe in.

1. Apostles learnt from Christ and they had God's backing throughout their minstrry. If Christ wasn't sure of them He wouldn't have commissioned them for the assignment of winning souls. Jesus Christ is the focus but we also take messages from those who learnt first hand from Christ Himself.

2. 2 Timothy 3:16

3. Holiday and New year traditions did not shift focus away from God. Rather, it also makes many to seek God's face the more. Now, to the issue of seeking God's face for the new year, it is a personal decision and does not suggest in anyway that the worship is in vain. Pray without ceasing. Men ought to pray and not to faint. By everyday, it also includes cross over days and the days in the new year.

4. Let God decide on this. To say this is to suggest that those who go to churches won't make heaven.

Did you conclude this with pretend to believe? Like I stated let God decide. Judgment is not in the hands of any.

HardMirror:
sure. Wish you same

One thing about religion is simple.

Know how to chew the meat and throw away the bone.

I hope you get.

Kobojunkie:
Those who love Him are those who live their lives in continuous submission to and obedience of His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 25 that is what Jesus Christ said we should do. His friends are those who do as He asks of them - John 15 vs 14. The only way to honor God is to do as God asks - obedience.

Heb 10:25

Else how do we know what to obey?

holyfather:


Church is the house of God,no?

I can see where your error stems from.

Man's heart not church is the house of God, and that's why it should be made the priority.

Myer:


One thing about religion is simple.

Know how to chew the meat and throw away the bone.

I hope you get.

well, I understand you, but you are still chewing a lot of bones.

Nauttyprof:
1. Apostles learnt from Christ and they had God's backing throughout their minstrry. If Christ wasn't sure of them He wouldn't have commissioned them for the assignment of winning souls. Jesus Christ is the focus but we also take messages from those who learnt first hand from Christ Himself.

2. 2 Timothy 3:16

3. Holiday and New year traditions did not shift focus away from God. Rather, it also makes many to seek God's face the more. Now, to the issue of seeking God's face for the new year, it is a personal decision and does not suggest in anyway that the worship is in vain. Pray without ceasing. Men ought to pray and not to faint. By everyday, it also includes cross over days and the days in the new year.

4. Let God decide on this. To say this is to suggest that those who go to churches won't make heaven.

Did you conclude this with pretend to believe? Like I stated let God decide. Judgment is not in the hands of any.

1. Again, Jesus Christ did not call anyone to emulating any man in His name. Instead, Jesus Christ said His friends are those who do as He asks - John 15 vs 14 - and those who love Him, those who belong to Him, are those who obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 25. Those who are of Him serve only one master and that Master is Jesus Christ alone..

2. Paul's submission in his letter to his friend Timothy does not in anyway suggests that that words of Satan, of demons and devils, and of wicked men, all of them also written of scripture, as God's Truth, does it?

Be careful! Jesus Christ is God's Truth, the very Word out of God's own Mouth. Every other opinion expressed in scripture is to be weighed against the one who is the Word of God, not assumed to be of God.

God even gave us several laws in His New Covenants to help guide us in deciphering truth from lies contained there in scripture. Maybe we can leave them for another discussion.

3. God no call anyone to observing of holidays or setting up of your new year traditions in His Name - what amounts to sin against God.

The reason your worship is in vain is you carry it out in accordance with the doctrines and traditions of men, and not in obedience to God's commandments to you - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13.

The same God who told you to pray without ceasing also admonished you to pray in secret and in hiding where no one will see or hear you, avoiding vain repetitions / meaningless jargons. - Matthew 6 vs 6 - 9, some of the many commandments you openly disobey during your crossover ceremonies.

4. God already judged , by His Law, that those who follow the doctrines and traditions of men , lies are not of Him - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 & John 14 vs 15 - 25 - this from over 2000 years ago. Yes, those of you who attend churches of men will not enter into God's Heaven for what has lies to do with Truth? What has darkness to do with light? CAN A ONE LIVE IN SUBMISSION TO LIES(Darkness) AND STILL BE OF TRUTH(Light)?

Again, God already judged all sins from 2000 years ago when He laid down His Law, Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant agreement between God and individual men, Law in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30

Nauttyprof:


Smiles. I didn't judge you but only told you not to move in error by writing personal views in the name of trying to preach salvation.

You never quoted any scripture but were just writing all based on your ideology and nothing else. Tell me where going for a cross over service and praying to God will make no difference. Is this from the Scriptures? Did God tell you this that those who go for cross over won't make any difference?

Now, get it right. I only stated that you expressed your personal views which is not supported by the scriptures. Mere ideology all in the name of trying to preach salvation.

Now, check the comments based on your post and see if the comments focused on salvation or instead raised people to say all sorts against the body of Christ. Is this the salvation message you intended?

You are so good at name calling and saying all sorts so as to support your stubborn view. We speak from the Scriptures alone and it is only the Gospel that saves (this is only the power of God unto salvation. Not your personal views or opinions).

Are all church goers? Are all heading to hell? To conclude in your post that it makes no difference says a lot as to how this 'holier than thou' mentality is affecting the message you carry. Let God do His work through you and stop doing things your own way for God

From your comments, it clear to see that even if you're caught in the act, you'd still deny it and be making flimsy excuses, so no point to continue showing you how lost you are. You even denied the fact that you judged me, lol, even when your comments are clearly here for all to see.

Let me leave you in the deep pit of ignorance since you've decided to make that your abode and refused to be rescued. Enjoy!

HardMirror:
well, I understand you, but you are still chewing a lot of bones.

I hope not.

holyfather:
Heb 10:25
Else how do we know what to obey?

Jesus Christ told you plainly that you are to obey His very teachings and commandments- John 14 vs 15 - 25. He even went further to clarify that it is by doing what He asks that you become His friend.. John 15 vs 14..

Surely, you can see how that means you should look through the Gospels to find Jesus Christ's every teaching and commandments in order that you may obey them.

Myer:




I hope not.

hehehe.

Nauttyprof:


Smiles. I didn't judge you but only told you not to move in error by writing personal views in the name of trying to preach salvation.

You never quoted any scripture but were just writing all based on your ideology and nothing else. Tell me where going for a cross over service and praying to God will make no difference. Is this from the Scriptures? Did God tell you this that those who go for cross over won't make any difference?

Now, get it right. I only stated that you expressed your personal views which is not supported by the scriptures. Mere ideology all in the name of trying to preach salvation.

Now, check the comments based on your post and see if the comments focused on salvation or instead raised people to say all sorts against the body of Christ. Is this the salvation message you intended?

You are so good at name calling and saying all sorts so as to support your stubborn view. We speak from the Scriptures alone and it is only the Gospel that saves (this is only the power of God unto salvation. Not your personal views or opinions).

Are all church goers? Are all heading to hell? To conclude in your post that it makes no difference says a lot as to how this 'holier than thou' mentality is affecting the message you carry. Let God do His work through you and stop doing things your own way for God

While I understand his message here,I think his approach of delivery is quite erroneous.

But he does not take corrections so don't bother wasting your Pearl's.

jesusjnr2020:
I can see where your error stems from.

Man's heart not church is the house of God, and that's why it should be made the priority.

Don't be narrow minded about these things...
Man's heart is God's house. True. Scriptural.
But God also identifies with places.
Jacob said "this is the house of God, this is the gate of heaven" Gen 28:17
And he was referring to an open place,by the way.

God has chosen places for worship psalm 132:13

He instructed Israel through Moses to build Him a sanctuary so He could dwell among them. Exo 25:8

It goes on and on.

There's difference between the worship in our hearts and the corporate worship that goes on when we gather in a place of worship.
I referred you to Heb 10:25 , where we're admonished to not forsake these gatherings, it's vital to our spiritual health.

The individual worship of the true God cannot be complete without the corporate dimensions

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ told you plainly that you are to obey His very teachings and commandments- John 14 vs 15 - 25. He even went further to clarify that it is by doing what He asks that you become His friend.. John 15 vs 14..

Surely, you can see how that means you should look through the Gospels to find Jesus Christ's every teaching and commandments in order that you may obey them.

What about other writings by the apostles?

dazzlingd:


How did u measure success..
And how do you prove that your attendance at the church was responsible for your growth.
These are baseless claims

u can't say is base less, I know how I have lived my life for the past 40yrs, So if I am talking I know what am talking about because it affects me directly, what ought to change dosent change for the past 33yrs... So u can't call that base less