CSTRR:

You are a clown.

If Kenya is so great, how can your productivity be so paltry?

What is your greatness?
Wgat do you contribute to the continent?

I am not here to argue about if Buhari is good or bad.
I am talking about his influence as president.

Nigeria is many degrees more influential than Kenya will ever be.
The president of Nigeria is more influential than Kenyatta will ever be.

When Nigeria refused to sign the AFCTA, the entire continent was worried.

Nobody would give a rat ass Kenya with the GDP less than that of Lagos refuse to sign.
Who cares?
It's one of those tiny overrated eastern Africans countries like Tanzania, Rwanda and Kenya.

You are all the same crap.

A lot of feel good sentiments but no real substance.
Even the tiny Kenyan economy is dominated by foreigners behind the scene.

You own nothing, you have nothing.

The Nigerian GDP is significantly bigger than $400b.

Our music and movie industries alone are in billions of dollars worth.

Manufacturing, Telecom, agriculture, tech.

Nigeria has the bulk of africas's wealthiest indurialists.

You are talking about your tiny shipyard.
Lol
It's definitely not in comparable to the one in Lagos.

Which ship or boat has Kenya manufactured?

Nigerian Navy has been building ships since 8 years old.

President buhari commissioned 2 locally manufactured Navy ships this December, 2021.
https://guardian.ng/news/nigeria/buhari-commissions-made-in-nigeria-navy-ship-others-to-boost-maritime-security/

Our next Target is to export these current products, and then upgrade our ship building technology.

We are not mates in anyway.
Our many challenges is a result of our big potential.

Tiny countries like Kenya with low potential have low challenges.
That is why you think your country is the best thing ever.

You are a insignificant irrelevant tiny African country destined to always be behind Nigeria.

Below are pictures of Nigerian made Navy ships and boats manufactured in the Naval Dockyard in Lagos Nigeria.

Pls, post the ones that Kenya manufactured from your "shipyard".

We're talking about the productivity rate, your country is shrinking, Kenya is growing as usual. Focus!

Small - non-mineral economy, but we're doing better than Nigeria. Your country is stagnant - take lagos for instance, a zoo that you claimed to be having more GDP than Kenya, can't even smell a city of less than $50b.

I don't care about AFCTA. Don't be deluded too. Nigeria is known as a failed state, don't expect anybody to get worried about your absence.

Bring Abuja - your capital city, let's compare it with Mombasa, the second biggest. You'll realize that those figures are inflated. Despite your city having nearly the same population as Kenya, you're still struggling to maintain your city's economy. Which at max should be $7b... Mombasa is doing better than Abuja, and Nakuru is doing pretty much better than both - your logic does not hold water.

Is Kenya overrated? I didn't know that? I thought we're underrated and we need to do more to earn recognition. But luckily, papers and data put us on the map, so we good.

Your economy is fueled by population - oil is irrelevant in 2021, expect a huge loss in revenue. Your economic growth rate is dropping year in year out - your zoo was relevant when oil was everything.

Shma:


We're talking about the productivity rate, your country is shrinking, Kenya is growing as usual. Focus!

Small - non-mineral economy, but we're doing better than Nigeria. Your country is stagnant - take lagos for instance, a zoo that you claimed to be having more GDP than Kenya, can't even smell a city of less than $50b.

I don't care about AFCTA. Don't be deluded too. Nigeria is known as a failed state, don't expect anybody to get worried about your absence.

Bring Abuja - your capital city, let's compare it with Mombasa, the second biggest. You'll realize that those figures are inflated. Despite your city having nearly the same population as Kenya, you're still struggling to maintain your city's economy. Which at max should be $7b... Mombasa is doing better than Abuja, and Nakuru is doing pretty much better than both - your logic does not hold water.

Is Kenya overrated? I didn't know that? I thought we're underrated and we need to do more to earn recognition. But luckily, papers and data put us on the map, so we good.

Your economy is fueled by population - oil is irrelevant in 2021, expect a huge loss in revenue. Your economic growth rate is dropping year in year out - your zoo was relevant when oil was everything.

Our economy is fueled by population?

Really?

So population will suddenly translate into money?

You don't know that you have to feed and provide Jobs and healthcare for that population?

You don't know that you have to maintain security and safety for such a large population?

You are a clown.

Your country is a tiny insignificant country.
I shouldn't even be talking to you.

You people don't own anything in your tiny economy.

rvp2018:
Looking at 2022 - Ethiopia birr has collapsed (lost 1/4 of it's value) so nominal gdp will be down by 1/4 - Angola kwacha has appreciated by 20 percent - so will swap places with Ethiopia. Ethiopia civil war plus COVID-19 has taken them back - and unless resolved quickly - they will be down for sometime.

In medium term - Egypt will overtake South Africa - and Kenya to overtake Morroco.

Eguyt has already overtaken south Africa.

South Africa are in decline and are now the third largest economy in Africa.

Kenya overtaking Morocco?

I don't see that happening.

rvp2018:
Remove your blinkers and you'll see the beautiful kenyan flag - representing the only large non mineral economy of sub saharan africa - showing what is possible in Africa - if Africans engage their brains and their muscles.

There is nothing wrong with a mineral economy as long as the economy is diversified.

America exports oil. China exports rare Earth metals.

Nigeria exports oil as well as many other agricultural commodities.

But it doesn't change the fact that our manufacturing, tech and financial sector are only rivalled by South Africa in subsaharan Africa.

And recently we are moving into Military technology.

Nigerian Defence company Proforce recently exported armoured personnel carriers to Chad after South Africa failed to meet the initial agreement.

And Proforce already exports APCs to the UN peacekeeping missions in East Africa.

Buhari alighting from the Nigerian made Proforce Armoured Personnel Carriers.

We stole the contract from South Africa

With the dangote petrochemical and fertilizer plants set to open this year.

Nigeria would be the largest manufacturing of fertilizers in Africa, exporting to Africa, America and Brazil.

That is what manufacturing looks like.

To be fair, I like the way Kenya has been able to master agriculture and diversify its agricultural exports.

It's an agricultural powerhouse and have utilized their agricultural lands far more productively than Nigeria.

Nigeria has a lot to learn from Kenya in that area.

rvp2018:
True..but this time for good...they have sorted their structural issues...they have more people at 100M and have better fundamentals.
South Africa will remain at 350-400B - middle class trap - in the medium term.

Egypt is doing well currently. And what I like most is how they are very honest with their figures.They have a GDP growth which relates with what is in ground unlike some folks who doctored a big GDP while on ground u see a shithole.Others can have a big GDP but still starving.

But Angola won't be above Ethiopia. 20% currency appreciation won't be enough to overtake Ethiopians. And I doubt if the oil prices will be stable in a near future

CSTRR:

Our economy is fueled by population?

Really?

So population will suddenly translate into money?

You don't know that you have to feed and provide Jobs and healthcare for that population?

You don't know that you have to maintain security and safety for such a large population?

You are a clown.

Your country is a tiny insignificant country.
I shouldn't even be talking to you.

You people don't own anything in your tiny economy.

You're the clown here, basic economy should have taught you about demography.
Population growth increases density and, together with rural-urban migration, creates higher urban agglomeration. Urban areas are key places that fuels economic growth - companies, retail spaces, rapid transport system are all part of this, so don't bring ignorance.

You have 5 times our population, it's a no-brainer that your economy should play 5times ours. But then again, nothing to reflect facts on the ground.

CSTRR:
To be fair, I like the way Kenya has been able to master agriculture and diversify its agricultural exports.

It's an agricultural powerhouse.

Nigeria has a lot to learn from Kenya in that area.

Which agriculture are u talking about?
What I know is,Kenya has only flowers,tea and little avos. What else?
TZ is more diversified than kenya

Mombasa shipyard.

Kazikazi:
Egypt is doing well currently. And what I like most is how they are very honest with their figures.They have a GDP growth which relates with what is in ground unlike some folks who doctored a big GDP while on ground u see a shithole.Others can have a big GDP but still starving.

But Angola won't be above Ethiopia. 20% currency appreciation won't be enough to overtake Ethiopians. And I doubt if the oil prices will be stable in a near future

Clown.
Nigeria does not own the world Bank or IMF.
If it was a lie, they would have said so long ago.

Infact Many of Nigeria's production are not even formal.
It's in the informal sector which cannot be estimated and added to current GDP.

Nigerian GDP is even too poor for the potential it has.

Wait till Nigeria gets a decent govt.

Kazikazi:
Egypt is doing well currently. And what I like most is how they are very honest with their figures.They have a GDP growth which relates with what is in ground unlike some folks who doctored a big GDP while on ground u see a shithole.Others can have a big GDP but still starving.

But Angola won't be above Ethiopia. 20% currency appreciation won't be enough to overtake Ethiopians. And I doubt if the oil prices will be stable in a near future

most idiots were like u at the beginning of this thread, they believe other country's figure, country's whose people are not represented here until someone shows up and they begin to query the authenticity of those figures.

I won't be shocked if an Egyptian find his way here and idiots like urself amongst others will still find ways to say their figures is cooked.

It's not d first time happening, and certainly won't be the last.

We have two shipyards. One in mombasa, one in Kenya.

CSTRR:
With the dangote petrochemical and fertilizer plants set to open this year.

Nigeria would be the largest manufacturing of fertilizers in Africa, exporting to Africa, America and Brazil.

That is what manufacturing looks like.

That's how you get respected. A GDP alone won't command respect.
But a day when naija reaches the level of developments which SA has,no one will be here arguing with you folks

Shma:


You're the clown here, basic economy should have taught you about demography.
Population growth increases density and, together with rural-urban migration, creates higher urban agglomeration. Urban areas are key places that fuels economic growth - companies, retail spaces, rapid transport system are all part of this, so don't bring ignorance.

You have 5 times our population, it's a no-brainer that your economy should play 5times ours. But then again, nothing to reflect facts on the ground.

You claim that our population fuels our GDP and at the same time you deny that there is a GDP.

You are high on weed.

Stick to an argument.

The biggest indurialists in Africa are Nigerians.

But No, our GDP is inflated.

Nigeria currently produce the largest
volume of cementt in the whole of Africa.

Inflated GDP.

CSTRR:
With the dangote petrochemical and fertilizer plants set to open this year.

Nigeria would be the largest manufacturing of fertilizers in Africa, exporting to Africa, America and Brazil.

That is what manufacturing looks like.

Dangote fertiliser plant is already in operation I believe. He's already started exporting since July if I'm not mistaken.

GeneralDae:

Dangote fertiliser plant is already in operation I believe. He's already started exporting since July if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, he has stated operation.
Sorry.

Shma:


You're the clown here, basic economy should have taught you about demography.
Population growth increases density and, together with rural-urban migration, creates higher urban agglomeration. Urban areas are key places that fuels economic growth - companies, retail spaces, rapid transport system are all part of this, so don't bring ignorance.

You have 5 times our population, it's a no-brainer that your economy should play 5times ours. But then again, nothing to reflect facts on the ground.

shut up economics master. Why is China's economy not 5x that of US?

Our fertilizer plant will serve the whole of Africa, with American and Brazil as export destinations.

But No, inflated GDP

By now, we should have already started approaching a Trillion dollar GDP.

We need to optimize the economy.

With the tech revolutions of last year, set to continue this year, we should have some serious additions to GDP.

Flutterwave and Opay got Unicorn status last year.
Some serious progress is going to happen this year in tech.

CSTRR:

Yes, he has stated operation.
Sorry.

Aside Dangote, Indoramma is also big in PortHarcourt.

Shma:
We have two shipyards. One in mombasa, one in Kenya.

Shipyards?

These are real stuff manufactured in Tanzania,owned by TZ government

Listen to the founder of Andela and Flutterwave talking about the Nigerian tech outlook for the year 2022.

He spoke about the "Nigerian start-up Bill" which is the most comprehensive tech law in Africa set to be passed this year by the national assembly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4s4xgWs5Wk

I am also happy for the future of Africa.

One thing Nigerian companies does is to always scale up beyond our borders.

We never keep anything in Nigeria alone.

Look at Andela for example.
It employs software Engineers from West to East to North and South of the entire Africa.

After establishing in Nigeria, Kenya was the next place they opened up shop.

Progress in Nigeria will spread to the rest of Africa.

That is what a big brother does.

Manufactured in Tz, for TZ government

Kazikazi:
That's how you get respected. A GDP alone won't command respect.
But a day when naija reaches the level of developments which SA has,no one will be here arguing with you folks

It would take time for us to match their overall development and HDI.
They were developed long time ago by the Dutch.

China and India are still fighting poverty.

It will take time.

Some folks are showing a shipyard?

Am showing real stuff happening in the ground..
A new stuff in the making at Mwanza south