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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 8:08am On Jan 06, 2022 |
ChrisKels: You're not a serious person at all ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lbrichman2: 8:09am On Jan 06, 2022 |
ChrisKels: No arguments there my brother Each time those two monikers post, I digest their words as though reading for an exam TheSupernerd sef na textbook on him own 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 8:11am On Jan 06, 2022 |
12large1:This players are first class footballers We can't compare what they bring to a team to Nwakali. We need get this right that Nwakali is not in their level so comparing or expecting him to live up to similiar expectations is something i dont see as realistic I still see his inclusion in the team for reasons best know to the coach and as a gamble that may prove best or other way round An elite CM balling for Berca or Madrid shouldn't be used to make case for Nwakali 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:12am On Jan 06, 2022 |
humility33: Were you able to see any of those videos posted by Thesupernerd yesterday? My brother, truly, Nwakali is what our team needs, the boy is Jibola Adebola Good morning bro 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:13am On Jan 06, 2022 |
BOOOMNAIJA:E sure me say shit catch some of them after this ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:18am On Jan 06, 2022 |
12large1: This is pretty much true... For example, Gini Wijnaldum was a known goalscoring midfielder before he joined Liverpool. Then Klopp converted him to a central midfielder and tasked him with the responsibility of recycling possession,falling back to protect the defence when the fullbacks overlap and breaking down opponents play.. As a result,his goal and assist ratio decreased,though he scored some very important goals, he was just not the same attacking minded player he was anytime he plays for the club. Meanwhile,he was still being used in an offensive role for the Netherlands and was getting enough goals to show for it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 8:20am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheSuperNerd: Doc, happy new year and compliments of the season to you. you have been missed on this platform and you shouldn’t ever leave without a formal warning.. Consequently, CM or no CM, pre assist or no pre assist, 0 goals and 0 assist in a division 2 is a horrible statistics. But, since we don’t really have solid available options, we can try and access his performance.. what about Ejaria that plays in the same exact position as nwakali and similar division. Why was ejaria stats much more impressive than nwakali own? (He dey score) and if ejaria switch process becomes complete, who do you advise to play that CM position between Ejaria vs Nwakali?? Personally, Nigeria is lacking CM and AM and one shouldn’t blame the coach for inviting a fairly good option…. The ball is on Nwakali court, if he succeeds, it’s a life changer, while if he fails (god forbid) he might not return back to SE…. Eguavoen has no blame for inviting nwakali in my opinion…. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:20am On Jan 06, 2022 |
POSITIVEBRAINS: Awoniyi for me.. Aside him being the most in-form striker, he was also among the very first to arrive camp, so he definitely must have earned some level of trust from the coach... 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 8:22am On Jan 06, 2022 |
Danielnino00: His goals on YouTube and his overall play isn’t as impressive as sadiq or Seniorman. In my opinion, I will go with 1) Senior man 2) Sadiq 3). Awoniyi Please, before saying that iheanacho cannot play as a top 9, go and watch his season under pellegrini |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:28am On Jan 06, 2022 |
Happy New Year My Good man, Zobo. Your moniker is as old as this thread. I don't forget old monikers that easily. ![]() Ejuke as an AM.... Hmmm... Believe me, My preference is to have Aribo as AM and Ejuke doing his playmaker-winger thing from the left wing. That is my undisputed first choice take. But to answer this anyway, because I understand from my folks on twitter close to the team that Eguavoen is toying with the idea of an Ejuke in the #10 role depending on in-game dynamics. Now, placing Ejuke in that role automatically activates his Playmaker gene and when you have a Playmaker that advanced rather than deep in midfield, the instructions has to be for the lad to be business-like and cut the showboating. It is easier to track an AM-playmaker than to track a deeplying Playmaker. I say this because, an AM has limited space and gaps to work with except if he falls deep & tries his magic from there. He has to be quick witted about his decisions & be press-resistant as well. Whereas a Deeplying Playmaker has all the space and time in the world to "dwell" on the ball and make the best decisions based on his "sight". Ejuke, from his style, works with space and although he is good at resisting the press, he often will lose the ball as a result of attempting so many takeons. My feeling about Ejuke as an AM is mixed. The experiment could pay off depending on the quality of the opposition defences. He is super capable of beating multiple men in a dribble and can pick out a pass intelligently but he would have to be disciplined enough to not overdo it so as not to kill potential chances or break down potential attacking moves. Ejuke is a playmaker-winger who prefers to work with space from the left wing and his decisions are almost always "Spinal" coz he acts on reflex most times when with the ball and on the move. So moving that ability centrally will require certain adjustments like "moderate dribbles, more incisive passes". He has the potential to excel in the role as a Makeshift AM but time will tell. zoboizee: 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lbrichman2: 8:29am On Jan 06, 2022 |
Danielnino00: True that |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:30am On Jan 06, 2022 |
12large1: All three of them have their own strength.. Awoniyi is a good finisher. Sadiq is a good finisher and chance creator. Iheanacho is a good finisher, chance creator,good passer and our best set piece taker... But none of them have the monsterous work rate if Osimhen, especially his pressing ability. Awoniyi might just lead the charge given the fact that he arrive camp early... The beautiful thing about our striking department is that almost all the strikers have different skillset that distinguish them from each other.. Rohr lack of foresight was what made him stick with Osimhen too much, thereby making some people believe that our other strikers couldn't fit into the team.. 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:30am On Jan 06, 2022 |
humility33: cc: TheSuperNerd did I not tell you? It is not a comparison in what they bring but highlighting the role of a deep lying playmaker. A deep lying playmaker has a role not to have goals or assists but dictate the tempo of the team. It is about making small intelligent decisions that compounds into the team's overall performance. Whether you are Pirlo, Xavi, Verrati, Paul Scholes, Obinna Nwobodo (in his early years), or Kelechi Nwakali is not the discussion. The discussion is what is expected of the person playing the role. Dictation, conduction, exploitation, and some defensive shifts. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 8:33am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheSuperNerd: Why can’t coaches just select players at their favorite and best position instead of trying to convert them? Ejuke best position is LW playmaker, why not just play him at that position.. sometimes, we try to over complicate things in this country 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:33am On Jan 06, 2022 |
Danielnino00: With a midfield of Ndidi-Nwakali-Aribo, I would start a more clinical striker in Iheanacho, because surely chances will be created. Then, I would flank the striker with Ejike and Chuks. These days, Chuks creates chances like mad 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:34am On Jan 06, 2022 |
humility33: So how do we explain the importance of a deep lying playmaker or a midfield conductor without highlighting top stars who did it exceptionally? When Eguavoen was explaining it, he highlighted Oliseh's long ball ability. To you, he is comparing who else will bring that to Oliseh. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:35am On Jan 06, 2022 |
drDoom3: Enguavoen is not even the kind of coach that plays this way. Using the wings is his best bet. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:35am On Jan 06, 2022 |
My Man, Chris with the Blog. ![]() Happy New Year Sir. Was looking out for you in the crowd... and infact I was gonna also ask about TheLoneCitizen but then I also remembered you. And yes, I understand. You are in the right to not rate the lad as much because truly speaking his career trajectory hasn't inspired much reason for confidence or hope but I believe things are beginning to look up for the young man now. He had a good 2021 on the whole. At Alcorcón and now at Huesca. I trust he would build on that at the Afcon and maybe finally win you over. ![]() ![]() Let's support the team. Their win is our Joy on this thread. Good to see you again My Excellent Sir. chrisooblog: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 8:37am On Jan 06, 2022 |
Gm guys, jibola adebola is in the squad already, we hope he gets to deliver if called upon, besides he can play, nobody doubts that, but the guy no gree blow. However he has always done well for Nigeria, so I hope he can use this opportunity to remind(us)people say him still Dey ball. We dey watch. Shout out to everyone on this thread, shout out to the team, oh one more thing, if you are not supporting us or have another team like Senegal or Algeria you are supporting, kindly specify, you can’t be super eagle Green and white and still be Algeria’s green. Imagine we win the cup, no be everybody suppose fit enter the after party 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:38am On Jan 06, 2022 |
humility33: Comparing kwa.... I hope you know an elite CM balling for these top sides should be Commanding numbers that align with that elite status but alas, it is not all so. I was simply explaining why it is that way. Mfs of such ilk with little or no direct statistical influence on G+A but deliver the most Masterclass in the middle game that births such in the forwards ahead of him. Man, TheGoodJoe was right. Humility totally missed the point. Heeeiiii.... 7 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:38am On Jan 06, 2022 |
ChrisKels: I believe so too but I don't think Eguavoen sees Nacho as a striker. I have noticed that our old professionals share similar views of football. Nacho, Aribo, and Iwobi might battle for the ten role. Eguavoen has already defined what he wants. Someone who can play close to the midfield and also contribute to the attack. He used Kanu Nwankwo. I see Nacho edging them due to his passing ability, long and short. He is also a lethal finisher. Awoniyi and Sadiq will battle for the nine role. That is my take from my observations. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 8:39am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheSuperNerd:I'd like Austin to try out Ndah and Awaziem CB pairing for the friendly against Coton Sports. Aina and Zaidu as left and right back respectively Then play Ndidi-Nwakali-Aribo midfield Ejuke from the left, Chuks on the right side of attack Whoever plays upfront doesn't matter cos he will score goals but I'd pick Umar as the striker. Iheanacho can replace Nwakali and Iwobi can replace Ejuke, Simon can sub Chuks 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 8:41am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe: I get you... your explanation is more lucid and vivid now Let's hope he delivers 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 8:42am On Jan 06, 2022 |
My criticism of Nwakali is not because I hate him, it is because I see hiss potential and how it is being wasted. Sure, he is a decent player on the ball. He has the "touch" I talked about earlier that players like Nacho, Ejuke, Aribo etc have that makes them look like they are gliding effortlessly on the ball. His passing is decent, albeit not to the level hyped on this thread (playing teams with top players in top leagues with better tactical positioning closes spaces for the long defense-splitting passes you guys have been longing to see). On the ball, sure, I can see what he adds to the team. However, off the ball, the guy is a mess. He strolls on the pitch like he is on the runway of a beauty pageant. For an 8, that is disastrous. For example, note his movement (number 8 jersey) for the Girona goal from 0:11 until 0:30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH4z_Gw-xqg You can see how a Girona player comes in behind him to a dangerous position. If the scorer had passed to that guy, the goal would have been much easier than it eventually was. Note his movement for all the goals, both his team and the opponents in this second clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eUI4SFWRy0 Just watch basically all Huesca highlights and look at how static he is off the ball. He just switches off. That tells you two things: 1. How poor the league is. You will never see in any of the top five leagues an 8 standing static in one spot without running or marking any player in a dangerous attack by the opponent. It doesn't happen. Do that in the Prem and you won't finish that game. 2. How far Nwakali has to go to chill with the big boys football wise. In competitive leagues, players don't stop moving unless in a dead ball situation or you are a GK. You are either pressing or marking or moving into positions to receive passes. You switch off for five seconds and it can cost you a game. My guy only switches on when he receives the ball. The guy is almost watching the game as if it is on TV when he is not with the ball. It is not all about having good technique, being skillful and all that crap. If you can't do the basics of the game, you're not ready. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:43am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe: I didn't even see your post before I made mine. Chaaaiiiiii.... You talk am oooo.... Why Humility33 why? 3 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:44am On Jan 06, 2022 |
ChrisKels: You might ask, what about defending the midfield? That is where zone play will come in. The players will likely get a crash course in Zone defending. Well shown in the U17 team of Amunike. When the ball gets to a different area, three or four players would cover that zone to receive the ball. That was why Spain could play a midfield of Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta, and still dominate the midfield defensively. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by samtol4(m): 8:45am On Jan 06, 2022 |
nelszx:Good formation. Iwobi should be on the bench. that is why the sacked of Rohr was very good because he will not play this formation. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 8:47am On Jan 06, 2022 |
ChrisKels:yeah it’s true, the supernerd can fit the role well, Andrew can clearly work in the glass house or technical director, you and idenna are very tall and fit as I heard, whose better to man the gates. 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:47am On Jan 06, 2022 |
Na wetin I dey hear oooo. The Ejuke as AM rumors. But time will tell shaa. I hope Eguavoen goes with the right tactical picks. 12large1: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:48am On Jan 06, 2022 |
drDoom3: Actually, I believe that will play a part in how the team sets up. I think Naturally, Nwakali is a zone player. When the ball is not in his controlling zone, he switches off. I noticed it in the last Girona game. However, in that game, he showed some excellent defensive awareness. Showed speed to defend. So it is a case of tactical arrangement. Play him in a more central area, where he has more zonal duties. This will keep him aware by having more defensive duties. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 8:48am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheSuperNerd: The truth bro... what I have against Nwakali is his defensive ethics same issues I have with Eze of Crystal Palace You know his work rate when his team is chasing the ball off the opponent legs or when his team is off the ball is poor . Offensively I know the deadly passes and others Nwakali offers. If Dude has improved on that trust me I will blow his trumpet. I just fear his pairing with Ndidi might over work Ndidi and even expose us when we get to play a ball possessive and dominating team even not sold on Aribo playing the CM role he is not defensive enough thats why you see me advocate for Onyeka Ndidi start.... with Onyeka as a CM and Ndidi as DM but anyway lets see the surprises that await us Watched the way Kovacic plays for Chelsea recently trust me will be super excited we have a player that can pull such stint in Cameroon |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:49am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe: Well, let's see how it goes. I'm not really sold on Awoniyi, maybe I haven't really observed him closely, but he tends to miss more than he scores and that could harm the team in a match where chances are scarce. |
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