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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:52am On Jan 06, 2022 |
Starboytwo: Idíat na gateman role you go give me, then put agbero like Andrew as a technical director? ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:53am On Jan 06, 2022 |
Tell all these to Jorginho who is also kinda Languid in some phases of the game and didn't track Tielemans. I hope you know Jorginho is also a deeplying Playmaker. A regista in Italian football terms. Check from 2.30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq8Wj8hvNLA One thing you must understand is that DLPs/Central Midfiled conductors are not expected to be workhorses. They contribute Decent Defensive shifts and focus primarily on taking up positions that set them up to receive the ball and dictate the flow. So expecting Nwakali or a Jorginho or a Modric to be running up and down almost every moment to show workrate is not so, My dear Doom3. Not every MF is a Kante or an Onyeka. Lol drDoom3: 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 8:53am On Jan 06, 2022 |
ChrisKels:Awoniyi problem is him not been aggressive and hungry enough There is something Oshimen and Ighalo brings when they play...They're always hungry and aggressive that alone is something expected of a striker... Awoniyi is like the morientes kind of striker. A gentleman kind of striker.... not aggressive and that only will make me pick even Dessers ahead of him... I don't know much about Sadiq in that aspect |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 8:56am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheSuperNerd: Abeg forget Jorginho We need a player like Kovacic. Jorginho is like a low budget mikel to me in that Chelsea Team when it comes to mastering that midfield |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 8:57am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe: Does not work in modern football because of how easy it is to switch play nowadays. Players today make off-the-ball runs like never before. If players only in the zone where the ball is are turned on defensively, your team will chop goals steady. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:57am On Jan 06, 2022 |
humility33: I honestly will not be shocked if Sadiq claims the 9 role. His pressing, and being able to drift to midfield and both wings will give him an edge over Awo. I think that was why Eguavoen desperately wanted Osimhen. It is going to be a case of utilizing long balls. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 8:58am On Jan 06, 2022 |
PurpleHouse:Algeria won't pass quarter finals 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 8:59am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe:Yeah Sadiq may claim the No. 9 role but how about his speed and runs ![]() If he gets to play as 9 then better Aribo okay the AM role because having Iwobi there will be funny |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:00am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe: Does Sadiq do well playing as a lone striker? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:00am On Jan 06, 2022 |
I understand you. But you should be referencing Jorginho not Kovacic. Lol Anyways, trust me when I say I watched Nwakali for every single minute from August up until December and finally on January 2 before he joined the SE camp. His workrate has improved most especially in his most recent games. His recovery in his last game was on the moderately high side. He made 6 recoveries. Committed 4 fouls. Lad can get dirty if he has to. On same day, Onyeka committed 2 fouls for Brentford and made 3 recoveries. These are their last games and sometimes you guys here say, you are as good as your last game. So I understand your fears but your fears persist only because you haven't watched the lad as much as I have in recent times. It is well, Royal one. We move. ![]() humility33: 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:01am On Jan 06, 2022 |
drDoom3: Works more in modern football than ever before. Defending now is done in groups. When play gets switch, the ball arrives a new zone and a new defending shape takes place. Are there risk to it? Yes but it is a far more effective option. Keep in mind Amunike is a modern strategic coach. So when we talk of modern football, his ideas are testaments to it. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 9:02am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe: Gegenpressing is basically zone defending in the opponents half. However it always breaks down once the ball gets to your half. Once the ball is in your half, every player needs to come in to mark and help the defense by tracking and marking all over the pitch. Else, you see a slide rule pass because the right back was ball watching or the CM decided that watching the player with the ball was more important than tracking the guy with the potential to receive the ball in a dangerous area. This is where Nwakali fails completely. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 9:03am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe: I just clarified what I meant with a current post. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 9:04am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheSuperNerd: Okay bro I love the civil manner we discussed this It shows we all want samething for the super eagles Victory Upon Victories Well done Doc. Let's go conquer Cameroon How about Dessers... ? Ighalo should throw in the towel now ![]() Let them call up that boy I am concerned of this team bonding and players getting to know themselves than all of them getting to play Ighalo should just rest and let them call up that patriotic lad 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:05am On Jan 06, 2022 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 9:07am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe: Having Dessers can help too as a super sub Dude psychologically have been programmed to see himself and play well in such manner lately 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:09am On Jan 06, 2022 |
drDoom3: You are basing your idea on the zonal defending failing. That is not how it works theoretically. This is about perfecting winning the ball with intense concentration. Get it right and you nullify the extra man to receive the ball. Out number the opposition in opposing areas. If it fails, a defender or a defensive midfielder tracks the guy with the ball, provides cover until defensive reinforcements come to cover gaps. Sometimes it fails but most times it succeeds. It is in the ratio of success you count on. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 9:10am On Jan 06, 2022 |
drDoom3: Now if you play as an AM and more in the opponent's half than yours, these faults could slide in non-high-tempo games. Nwakali is an 8 though: if the ball gets past him, it's Ndidi and our inshallah defense. Ndidi can try his best but you can't expect him to do Nwakali's defensive duties to mark players while Nwakali strolls on the pitch waiting to receive the ball so he can "command the midfield". |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:11am On Jan 06, 2022 |
humility33: Not watched much of Dessers but I wish he was in camp to battle with them. That Ighalo recall was a very bad move for the team's progress. Feel for the lad. His chance will come soon. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 9:13am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe: You said it yourself. From the clips I posted, did you see how well Nwakali was assisting as a defensive reinforcement? Did you see the gaps he was covering so well? And that was against Girona in La Liga 2. Imagine doing that against Algeria or Senegal. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:16am On Jan 06, 2022 |
drDoom3: It is a team work and that is why I highlighted central play. Reshaping for the central guy will require less running. Also, Nwakali has shown improvement with his running, so I believe he can get sorted out defensively. Remember Mikel did not run with pace but kept it neat with tidy covering movements. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kingdaveed011: 9:19am On Jan 06, 2022 |
The African Cup of Nations kicks off when host Cameroon take on Burkina Faso at the Stade Omnisport Paul Biya, Olembe on the 9th of January. This would be the 33rd edition of the biennial African competition organized by the Confederation of African football (Caf), for the first time in the competition history a total of 24 teams will challenge to win the title, only host Cameroon received an automatic slot, the other 23 team qualified through a qualification tournament. http://kingdaveedphil..com/2022/01/the-african-cup-of-nations-favourites.html |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:21am On Jan 06, 2022 |
drDoom3: Pass your message without unnecessary mockery and subtle jibes. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 9:23am On Jan 06, 2022 |
samtol4: I just feel Nwakali if he plays to instruction, should be the bridge between Aribo and Ndidi. Collects from Ndidi, sends to Aribo and also the wingers. Well anything that works for the team and depending on the game/opponents they'd playing against. The coach can tweak his formation. But one thing is certain, with the caliber of players will have, only a 4-3-3 or 3-5-2 might work. Playing a 4-4-2 will expose our team badly 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Astrid4(m): 9:23am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheSuperNerd: Ziyech loses the ball alot... Ziyech has nothing less 15 possession loss per game... Playing Ziyech as a AMF in a high intensity game is disastrous |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 9:24am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheSuperNerd: Untrue, at least the second part. Jorginho can be languid at times, but at least he is not catwalking on the pitch. For that goal, you can clearly see from behind that Jorginho drifted to the left to provide cover for Reece James against Vardy receiving the ball which was the immediate threat. The plan was to cover all through passes so that Tielemans will be forced to carry the ball alone where he can then be closed down at the edge of the box. Tielemans saw this and used the space wisely to score an unexpected stunner. It was not Jorginho's fault, rather it was the brilliance of the player. Also I wonder why you are trying to use scant mistakes of one player to justify the continous failure of another. It is just like saying because no one in a class got 100% in a math test, the kid who got 5% and failed shouldn't be blamed. After all, no one was perfect. That is a dangerous approach. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 9:27am On Jan 06, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe: Sure, it will. It is not all about running though. It is about awareness. Are you as a player aware of the immediate danger? Do you recognize what you have to do to stop it? How do you execute that? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 9:29am On Jan 06, 2022 |
ChrisKels: I am not mocking anyone. I am only pointing out facts using sarcasm and irony. It is all part of the english language we speak everyday (at least for most of us). |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:30am On Jan 06, 2022 |
drDoom3: Hmmm okay. Daalu |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:31am On Jan 06, 2022 |
12large1: Point of correction, Xavi had 2 assists in 2010 World Cup. Besides, he had 154 assists and scored 68 goals in 607 games as a CM for Barcelona. Moreover, he scored 12 goals and had 19 assists in 54 games as an AMF for Barcelona. Let us analyze things holistically. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 9:32am On Jan 06, 2022 |
drDoom3: It goes the other way round for attacks too. Are you aware of how the spaces on the pitch can be used to create a dangerous attack? What can you do to contribute? What positions should you occupy to make the attack successful? How do you execute these actions? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:36am On Jan 06, 2022 |
drDoom3: And here you are cooking up analytical excuses for Jorginho. ![]() Anyways, No long talk needed. I have made my central points. Enjoy your day. ![]() 1 Like 1 Share
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