BlueMann:
Senior men, celebrate with me. It's my birthday today.

Thankful for being alive.

HBD .....more meaningful year ahead.

Havertz10:
it's funny that no one finds it absurd that Ibime is going out of his way to defend holberg, I still think that he is better than jorginho, I have watched a few spurs games and can testify that he has that xabi Alonso passing range but he isn't a Chelsea player, he is in his mid 20's + a spurs player, I doubt that we would ever sign him

So I guess the question here is what's the point? Anybody that underates him is just trolling, that guy is good but I wouldn't defend him to ibime level, because at the end of the day, Chelsea's advancement is the priority, all manners of player aggrandizement has to be done to benefit Chelsea.

If you type this nonsense in any Tottenham fans forum they will murder you

swiz123:


Ask yourself why spurs suddenly stopped being competitive immediately Horjtout joined. That nigga is the perfect definition of the more you look, the less you see.

There are a whole lot of reasons Tottenham has regressed , a little google search will show u all u need to know. Nothing concern me with Perennial losers like Tottenham and their useless owner .

What I’m concerned is the unnecessary Jorginho hype . Nigga can’t play shiiit. There’s a reason most of his highlights are just hopping PK here and there .

Different forums and same thing concerning ibime guy

donjazet:


This is wrong, I have always conceded that jorginho has certain weaknesses. His pace is a weakness but many elite DM's also have this problem but they have other attributes that more than makes up for this. He's a very intelligent player.
And moreso he has a bonus attribute, just like pirlo and Xabi alonso were freekick specialist, jorginho is a penalty specialist. That's an added bonus of his game that has enabled him become one of the highest scoring DM's of the game.

I understand no player is perfect and they all have their limiations. But in Jorginho's case, his limitations are glaring and could cause serious problems for the team if ignored, hence the reason for his managers bending backwards to cover these deficiences.

I'm not too particular about his lack of pace but his lack of press-resistance and progressive passing is a big issue for me. He is a flat-track bully controller who only shows up when lesser-talented opposition sit back but disappears in the tough matches when things get hot in the middle of the park. His defensive work rate has improved but this is more down to Tuchel's system than any work on his part. He still can't play in a 2-man midfield without having 3 CBs behind him.

But i agree he understands the tactical aspect of the game, which is why all his coaches love him. But he is a player first, so that doesn't mean much to me. If na by that one, make e go collect Uefa pro coaching license

He's great leader also. He motivates his team mates and gives his all. Can you see a pattern emerging here, it's all intagibles with Jorginho rather than any strength you can point to. He's only a decent passer, he can't shoot, he can't break lines. Chance creation zero. Set piece ability nil. But he does score penalties which is a superpower to you LOL. Do you know the probability of scoring a pk is 75%? You want to compare that to scoring from freekicks, scoring screamers from 35, 40 yards. Bros, abeg nau. Things would be more interesting if he was the one winning those penalties in the first place

iamoyindamola:

Unless they will take xhaka

Don’t mind dem . I come dey wonder which other Jorginho dem sey write long paragraph about. One person even talk say he no dey easily dispossessed under pressure .

BlueMann:
Senior men, celebrate with me. It's my birthday today.

Thankful for being alive.

Birthday blessings, chief.

User09:


Oh...he's elite I assure you.

No point dragging the unending argument as neither side will concede

If this is play stop it, jorginho is not elite anywhere unless you are talking about back passing elite then you have him. Refer us to the games you see this class or pls stop confusing readers here.

User09:


Oh...he's elite I assure you.

No point dragging the unending argument as neither side will concede

LOL. Maybe in another multiverse. Definitely not this one we are living in. Oh, i get it! it's because he won the best player in Europe award and finished third in the Ballon d'or rankings. Bro, that guy is just one lucky modafucka.

airmark:
'Jorginho makes Chelsea's defence solid'. This dude must be trolling Jorginho afterall.

I bet you jorginho is an elite........is another one

Segedinho:

Same tuchel

Check your date. Check mine

Which is more recent

BlueMann:
Senior men, celebrate with me. It's my birthday today.

Thankful for being alive.

Happy birthday boss.

#BlessUp

timbros:
Popizaino see where your guy ended up. Water don find him level

Na the kind player you dey wish us. Later the same you will come here and talk about celebrating mediocrity.

So coutinho is not Chelsea level but jorginho, RLC, Barkley, Mount, Ziyech are all Chelsea level. Thank God the man who played with him as a player knows what Coutinho can do, just be patient I will be bringing you his update here.

This shii needs to step up ffs



Hbd bluemann

pkasso:
This is a bit unfair on Rodri. Yes, we all know he's not the fastest but to imply he can't play in Liverpool's or Spurs system is a myth. This clip was from last season, barely halfway through his second season with City.

First of all, let's not forget Rodri has spent most of his still young career playing in low-block counter-attacking teams like Villareal and Atletico and a switch to playing as the 6 for a ball-dominant side that plays high up the pitch like City do wasn't always going to be smooth. His positional play had to be perfect. He couldn't risk playing too deep when City were pressing and woe betides him if he gets caught out playing too high up the pitch, on a counter-attack as he is not the fastest in a foot race. It was like walking a tightrope. And he struggled initially. The pace of the English game stunned him and it took a while to adapt.

The reason for this 'escort' tag was the initial struggles that came with playing in this new system. Pep addressed this issue with his assistant, Juanma Lilllo and worked on improving Rodri's positional play and telling him not to move too much. What we are seeing now is a Rodri who is better placed to deal with counter attacks. At a point this season, City had gone on the longest sequence of games, 15 i think, without conceding a chance from a counter until all hell broke loose in that opening 20 mins of that 2nd half against Leicester. A big part of that has been down to Rodri, who has won the most balls in the final third of the pitch this season for Man City.

I hope with these few points of mine, i've been able to convince you, and not confuse you that Rodrigo Hernandez is not an escort

I'm talking merely about Rodri facing a counter attack. Theres a reason Kyle Walker is now more a less a 3rd centre back.

Positional play is irrelevant if someone can come to your position and gap you from there... especially if that someone is a glass ankled snail like Harry Kane. I was shocked when I saw Kane pacing Rodri to the point where even the commentators dey laugh.

timbros:
Popizaino see where your guy ended up. Water don find him level

Na the kind player you dey wish us. Later the same you will come here and talk about celebrating mediocrity.

Niccur only moved to get playing time because of the world cup if not I doubt he'll have left barca who have trying to eject him since, and his wages of 380k stopped plenty clubs for moving for him since he didn't want to reduce it so no biggie,

pkasso:
I understand no player is perfect and they all have their limiations. But in Jorginho's case, his limitations are glaring and could cause serious problems for the team if ignored, hence the reason for his managers bending backwards to cover these deficiences.

I'm not too particular about his lack of pace but his lack of press-resistance and progressive passing is a big issue for me. He is a flat-track bully controller who only shows up when lesser-talented opposition sit back but disappears in the tough matches when things get hot in the middle of the park. His defensive work rate has improved but this is more down to Tuchel's system than any work on his part. He still can't play in a 2-man midfield without having 3 CBs behind him.

This is a myth you've let yourself believe, unfortunately.
Jorginho played against mancity, Tottenham, realmadrid, Liverpool, ATM, Porto etc and came out of tops in almost all of them with Chelsea out possessing all of them bar mancity.

Does any opposition get stronger than these?
You've really bought into that whack fallacy that jorginho is not press-resistant. HE IS.
He does break between the lines by finding pockets of space to evade pressure and pass the ball.

Furthermore, if all your coaches are "bending down backwards" to cover for you, what does it say about the value of that player?? Doesn't that highlight his absolute importance to the team?
Don't let minority opinions fool you. A whole lot of us appreciate the intelligence and genius of jorginho. That's why he's the European footballer of the year and 3rd place overall best in the world.

pkasso:
I understand no player is perfect and they all have their limiations. But in Jorginho's case, his limitations are glaring and could cause serious problems for the team if ignored, hence the reason for his managers bending backwards to cover these deficiences.

I'm not too particular about his lack of pace but his lack of press-resistance and progressive passing is a big issue for me. He is a flat-track bully controller who only shows up when lesser-talented opposition sit back but disappears in the tough matches when things get hot in the middle of the park. His defensive work rate has improved but this is more down to Tuchel's system than any work on his part. He still can't play in a 2-man midfield without having 3 CBs behind him.

But i agree he understands the tactical aspect of the game, which is why all his coaches love him. But he is a player first, so that doesn't mean much to me. If na by that one, make e go collect Uefa pro coaching license

He's great leader also. He motivates his team mates and gives his all. Can you see a pattern emerging here, it's all intagibles with Jorginho rather than any strength you can point to. He's only a decent passer, he can't shoot, he can't break lines. Chance creation zero. Set piece ability nil. But he does score penalties which is a superpower to you LOL. Do you know the probability of scoring a pk is 75%? You want to compare that to scoring from freekicks, scoring screamers from 35, 40 yards. Bros, abeg nau. Things would be more interesting if he was the one winning those penalties in the first place

Anything other than this to defend Jorginho is absolutely BS. You have said it the way they are on the emboldened without mincing words. Jorginho fans should meditate on this and stop disturbing forum spaces with those half truth and twisted lies that use to eulogies that very poor mikel obi .

donjazet:


This is a myth you've let yourself believe, unfortunately.
Jorginho played against mancity, Tottenham, realmadrid, Liverpool, ATM, Porto etc and came out of tops in almost all of them with Chelsea out possessing all of them bar mancity.

Does any opposition get stronger than these?
You've really bought into that whack fallacy that jorginho is not press-resistant. HE IS.
He does break between the lines by finding pockets of space to evade pressure and pass the ball.

Furthermore, if all your coaches are "bending down backwards" to cover for you, what does it say about the value of that player?? Doesn't that highlight his absolute importance to the team?
Don't let minority opinions fool you. A whole lot of us appreciate the intelligence and genius of jorginho. That's why he's the European footballer of the year and 3rd place overall best in the world.

Why you one use words cover Wetin Pkasso Dey watch for television

BlueMann:
Senior men, celebrate with me. It's my birthday today.

Thankful for being alive.

Hearty Birthday Cheers

Be Forever Blessed

BlueMann:
Senior men, celebrate with me. It's my birthday today.

Thankful for being alive.

Happy birthday, God's blessing

If a neutral person comes to this thread and read all the elite attributes accorded to Jorginho and you show him a Chelsea match to point out that player with those abilities, he’ll select more than half the team before even considering J5, hellite player wey no rival fan want, yeye dey smell

donjazet:


This is a myth you've let yourself believe, unfortunately.
Jorginho played against mancity, Tottenham, realmadrid, Liverpool, ATM, Porto etc and came out of tops in almost all of them with Chelsea out possessing all of them bar mancity.

Does any opposition get stronger than these?
You've really bought into that whack fallacy that jorginho is not press-resistant. HE IS.
He does break between the lines by finding pockets of space to evade pressure and pass the ball.

Furthermore, if all your coaches are "bending down backwards" to cover for you, what does it say about the value of that player?? Doesn't that highlight his absolute importance to the team?
Don't let minority opinions fool you. A whole lot of us appreciate the intelligence and genius of jorginho. That's why he's the European footballer of the year and 3rd place overall best in the world.

Chairman only reason jorginho is both European footballer of the year and 3rd ballon d or overall is cause of being in two winning teams of the biggest trophies in 2021, Jorginho is not bad but he isn't great either, he doesn't have any particular attribute that marks him out as a professional in that aspect, If you guys sign someone like tchouameni, kamara or Denis Zakaria, that's the beginning of the end for him, pka sso ain't wrong

Happy birthday too, to my favorite Chelsea player of all time.

The Garden of Eden

I will never forget that goal against west ham and Liverpool beauty

Almajirihunter:
This shii needs to step up ffs



Hbd bluemann

No violence on this sacred day

Thanks boss

nihilistjnr:


I'm talking merely about Rodri facing a counter attack. Theres a reason Kyle Walker is now more a less a 3rd centre back.

Positional play is irrelevant if someone can come to your position and gap you from there... especially if that someone is a glass ankled snail like Harry Kane. I was shocked when I saw Kane pacing Rodri to the point where even the commentators dey laugh.

You agreed with someone's assertion that Rodri cannot play in Liverpool and Spurs system which i disputed. There was no mention of counter attack in that submission. Walker playing almost as a RCB is an emergency plan on counters which is not even needed much these days because Rodri is winning balls higher up the pitch.

Rodri is not the fastest DM around and there is no shame in admitting that. But he more than makes up for it with his ball-winning skills and positional intelligence.

You think someone that has excelled in constrasting systems like the ones at Atletico and City won't play well in a middle ground system like the one at Liverpool and Spurs? LOL

BlueMann:


Oga mi

Thanks, I appreciate

Happy birthday man.

Get bigger.

Skimpledawg:

Happy birthday man.

Get bigger.

Apostle himself

Bless you sir. Thanks

iamoyindamola, Kilishihunter, Actman05, Popizaino, FBS, amodu, EmmanuelScott1

Thanks for your wishes Bossmen. I do appreciate.

donjazet:




Does any opposition get stronger than these?
You've really bought into that whack fallacy that jorginho is not press-resistant. HE IS.

Yeah right

Kilishihunter:

Chairman only reason jorginho is both European footballer of the year and 3rd ballon d or overall is cause of being in two winning teams of the biggest trophies in 2021, Jorginho is not bad but he isn't great either, he doesn't have any particular attribute that marks him out as a professional in that aspect, If you guys sign someone like tchouameni, kamara or Denis Zakaria, that's the beginning of the end for him , pka sso ain't wrong

Why has Jorginho Italian career not ended ? Why did Sarri, Tuchel and Mancini actual elite coaches unlike the wack analyst we have here find him core to their various teams ?

pkasso:
You agreed with someone's assertion that Rodri cannot play in Liverpool and Spurs system which i disputed. There was no mention of counter attack in that submission. Walker playing almost as a RCB is an emergency plan on counters which is not even needed much these days because Rodri is winning balls higher up the pitch.

Rodri is not the fastest DM around and there is no shame in admitting that. But he more than makes up for it with his ball-winning skills and positional intelligence.

You think someone that has excelled in constrasting systems like the ones at Atletico and City won't play well in a middle ground system like the one at Liverpool and Spurs? LOL

See first sentence of bolded for context.