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Re: Th by TAO11(f): 8:53am On Sep 04, 2021
Think4Myself:
Hope she doesn't lie again...
I hoped wrong
I was delusional
Yorubas love lying

You don't know that simp ahahn
I've caught you
I know you’re delusional.

Why are you reminding me?
Re: Th by TAO11(f): 8:56am On Sep 04, 2021
Think4Myself:

Ogun is also Benin land
You woke up from your long dream already?
Re: Th by nisai: 9:23am On Sep 04, 2021
TAO11:
You had a long dream today. cheesy

As a Benin boy, what’s your Yoruba name?
Abeg no reply that uniben undergraduate craving your attention. E no deserve your time abeg. Him wan prevent his brothers from koboko ni. U no notice say them don get time rest wella ni?

The guy na Olodo. Even me wey no go skul sef, my english better pass him own talkless of u. grin

Abeg fanshi am. Just lay in ambush for big sweet meat to trespass for now. grin

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Re: Th by Nobody: 11:10am On Sep 04, 2021
TAO11:
I know you’re delusional.

Why are you reminding me?
Stoopid, I meant I was delusional for thinking yorubas were not liars
Since you can't comprehend
Re: Th by Nobody: 11:11am On Sep 04, 2021
Hope he dosent simp this time...
nisai:
Abeg no reply that uniben undergraduate craving your attention. E no deserve your time abeg. Him wan prevent his brothers from koboko ni. U no notice say them don get time rest wella ni?

The guy na Olodo. Even me wey no go skul sef, my english better pass him own talkless of u. grin

Abeg fanshi am. Just lay in ambush for big sweet meat to trespass for now. grin
Dam it... Pedastalizing her when she doesn't know you
Re: Th by Nobody: 11:14am On Sep 04, 2021
TAO11:
You had a long dream today. cheesy

As a Benin boy, what’s your Yoruba name?
Ask oba of Lagos who pays homage to oba of Benin he'll tell you he is ancestorally Benin
I ask again, what's your Benin name
Eseosa? undecided cheesy
Your tears
Re: Th by TAO11(f): 6:13pm On Sep 04, 2021
nisai:
Abeg no reply that uniben undergraduate craving your attention. E no deserve your time abeg. Him wan prevent his brothers from koboko ni. U no notice say them don get time rest wella ni?

The guy na Olodo. Even me wey no go skul sef, my english better pass him own talkless of u. grin

Abeg fanshi am. Just lay in ambush for big sweet meat to trespass for now. grin
Oh okay.

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Re: Th by BamBamK: 2:28pm On Nov 26, 2021
sabi man

i sight you




HornyTave:


Lol.

I think I should educate you.

Timeline of migration and name change of Benin.

1. The first People to leave Igodomigodo, capital city of Igodo were the Urhobo, they know Benin as Akah.

2. The next set of People that left Benin was Prince Izoduwa, a banished Prince, banished by Oliha and the palace chiefs. When the custodian of the throne died, he was looked for, in the hinterland ( ife ), prior his arrival to Ife, history has it the clans there not united, he united them and has a son in Oyo as Alaafin while he remained in Ife as Diviner.
When the emissary from Igodo came to Izoduwa ( Oduduwa ), he was old and couldn't leave, hence he sent the last of his son, Oranmiyan in his stead, Oranmiyan lived in present Day Usen and renamed the place Ile'Ibinu which means land of the angry,
a. Brcause he didnt understand the language.
b. He didnt understand the politics played there

He said only a son born in Benin can rule Benin. He gave birth to a son named Eweka, and He returned to Ife.
Oranmiyan was the First One and 36th Ogiso ( Oba of Benin during His coronation )

The other People that left Benin was the Was an folks starting during the time of One Ewuare the first who changed the Name Bini to Edo in respect to A servabt who saved his Life. Harsh laws and injustice, running away from the law, made the Esan fled.
The other People who left Edo was Prince Opkameri, who formed the Edo north Chiefdoms, He later became Oba Ozolua who died during the Benin - Esan War.
The Itshekiris left at a later time, after Ozolua and before Esigie. Thier kings name always start with Oghiamen means Lord of Water.
During the Idah - Benin war, Esigie extended Benin rule accross the Niger ( Orisha - Ado, corrupted to Onitcha Ado ).
Also it was during the time of Esigie, Benin founded Eko ( Lagos ) a forward base in,doing business with the Europeans.

The king maker in Itshekiri and highest title holder is Ologbostere, a title with Benin Origin, recall the Delta state government issued it won't recognise the Olu if Ologbostere didn't approve his coronation which led the Oba of Benin to intervene. His reason were, it is against tradition to have a king of a Yoruba mother.

There are 3 version of bini language,
The old Akah variant
The old yoroboid variant and another which ive forgotten...

Lol

Even Owo has Benin ancestry and part of Ado - Ekiti.

Come with facts bro, I'm jobless today, lets make it fun with facts,
Re: Th by BamBamK: 2:40pm On Nov 26, 2021
prof prof!!


TAO12:
(1) ON ITSEKIRI:

To know who the Itsekiris are, ask them. What/who do the Itsekiris themselves say they are?

(A) The eyewitness accounts collected from them in the 1800s have them confirming to the Europeans that they are part and parcel of the larger Yoruba group:

(I) Let me now refer briefly to the tribes that people this part of the world. First we come to the Jakris, who are connected in race and language with the Yoruba people, extending from the Mahin country on the west to the Forcados on the East, and inland about as far as Sapele.

~ H. L. Gallwey, “Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa,” The Geographical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Feb., 1893), p.127.

(II) In this respect, however, the officials agree with the tradition of the people at Warri, the Jekries, who claim to come from the west.

~ H. Ling Roth, “Great Benin: Its Customs, Arts and Horrors,” (1903), pp.8-9.

(B) This historical reality of the Itsekiris have remained the same since that period (i.e. the 1800s & prior) all the way to the present century, day & time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKLTie7LhKQ

(I) For example, at timestamp 7:01 to 7:13 of this video, Chief Robinson Ariyo (the Egogo of Warri kingdom) says and I quote:

Yoruba, a place where we are from our roots.


(II) At timestamp 8:22 to 8:27 of this video, Chief Isaac Jemide (the Oshodin of Warri kingdom) says:

we are a Yoruba people as such.


(2) ON ODUDUWA:

First of all, there is no such historical personage called Izoduwa (Imadoduwa) etc. in Benin traditions.

The IzOdUwA narrative is a fabrication that was made up by some Binis in the 1970s. And it was first heard of by the typical Edo person during Omonoba Erediauwa’s coronation ceremony of 1978-9.

Academic/professional historians (NOT the Benin neighborhood story-tellers) all laugh at this fabrication for being a poor job. This scandal is known to experts. Benin elders also know it. See attached screenshot for one example.

The classical story of the Bini Ekeladerhan which was first collected in the year 1889 is clear that he lived the remaining part of his life in his newly founded kingdom, Ughoton.

A Bini chronicler and chief (J. Uwadiae Egharevba) who flourished decades later also collected practically the same story of Ekaladerhan (from an entirely different generation of Bini informants), and his story also ended at his kingdom, Ughoton.

During all these period, Benin history recognizes King Oduduwa as being distict from Ekeladerhan. In fact, it is clear from the early Benin works that Oduduwa was already a King at Ife long before Ekaladerhan’s fore-fathers would be born.

In other words, it is very clear from the early records of Benin history that Oduduwa ruled in Ife when the first Ogiso, viz. Ogiso Igodo was sent to Igodomigodo to establish a supreme-supra-chiefdom there.

Whereas, Ekalderhan is the son of the last Ogiso, viz. Ogiso Owodo according to Benin records (even the recent records haven’t yet modified this part).

This is what the earliest records of Benin history say — that, Oduduwa is a different and distinct person from Ekeladerhan. They flourished in different eras.

Fast forward to the 1970s, lies began to surface in the history of Benin. The motive behind these lies have been variously linked, by scholars, to — for example — the need for the modern Binis to ground the idea of an exceptional antiquity for their people and claims for its exclusive part in the sociopolitical life of independent Nigeria ~ Bondarenko (2003:68).

In summary, early Benin history recognize Oduduwa as a different & distinct person from Ekaladerhan. He is recognized as having flourished at the outset of the Ogiso monarchy. It wasn’t until the 1970s before the Binis attempted to alter their own early documented history so as to equate two different persons as one and the same person for the purpose of veiling what they perceive to be an embarrassing aspect of their history in a newly formed country, Nigeria.

So, who is King Oduduwa? Oodua ruled as king only in Yorubaland. So, again (just like the Itsekiris’s case) ask at Ife (where he ruled) to know who he is.

According to received Ife traditions (and obviously the earliest Yoruba traditions), Oduduwa is known (without any confusion) as Oshin Ora in his oriki.

In the earliest Yoruba traditions, he is identified as a Yoruba leader who hailed from the hilly settlement of Oke-Ora; that is, one of the seven hilly settlements surrounding the Ife-bowl.

(3) ON Ọ̀WỌ̀ & ADO-EKITI:

Owo and Ado-Ekiti do not have Benin ancestry. Again, to know the roots & foundations of the Owo kingdom, ask the Owo palace.

According to the main body of Owo palace traditions,
the kingdom of Ọ̀wọ̀ (classic dialect: Ọ̀ɣọ̀) was founded by a prince of Ile-Ife whose name is given as Asunlola Ojugbelu — a.k.a. Omolaghaye (and his son, Imade).

Also, the kingdom of Ado-Ekiti is founded (according to Ado palace traditions) by a prince of Ile-Ife who was known by the names Awamaro as well as Ewi.

Until you provide accounts of Owo palace traditions, and Ado-Ekiti palace traditions which identifies these individuals (Ojugbelu and Awamaro respectively) as Binis; then your submission remains the joke that it is.

Peace!
Cc: theTranslator, musiwa10, Poiu11, FairlyUSEDpussy

Screenshot Reference:
J. Eboreime, “Oral Traditions and the Prehistory of the Edo-Speaking People of Benin” in Blench and Spriggs, Archaeology and Language I, Taylor & Francis e-Library, 2004, p. 314.

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Re: Th by Nobody: 7:48pm On Dec 10, 2021
On the same line of thoughts: "the fulani people are yoruba fulani-chinese dialect"

Basically anybody you want to be yoruba is yoruba and his language is just a dialect of yoruba.

Soon a story about how the Fulani migrated from Ife will be published...count the days
Re: Th by Nobody: 8:08pm On Dec 10, 2021
I almost forgot that the Oni of Ife has already made the claim that the Igbos are yoruba and migrated from ife. Also it seems to me that the Oni of Ife also claimed the Jews migrated from igboland and therefore that the Jews earlier migrated from Ife...

One day someone will have to study the case of the yoruba and really explain why they lie so much. A so called ethnic group in which the favourite sport is the fabrication of fakes, doing 419, telling lies, doing revisionism...yoruba are always involved in one fraud or the other.
If a yoruba tells you good morning then it is more than likely that it is nighttime.

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Re: Th by SirNewtonNG: 2:44pm On Jan 07, 2022
HornyTave:
Lol...
Yet the title of their king is Benin.
They have laws specifying only princes born of Benin and Itshekiri mothers can be king.

The Yoruba, like the Ibos can't stand alone, they would always drag the Midwest region in their mirage country.
Lol...

Thank God someone corrected your nonsense. The benin monarchy itself is a yoruba one like many nobles of benin today are actually of ife descent. It's recorded that the itsekiri people and the benin merchants spoke lukumi the name for yoruba language at the time
Re: Th by SirNewtonNG: 2:51pm On Jan 07, 2022
HornyTave:


Lol.

I think I should educate you.

Timeline of migration and name change of Benin.

1. The first People to leave Igodomigodo, capital city of Igodo were the Urhobo, they know Benin as Akah.

2. The next set of People that left Benin was Prince Izoduwa, a banished Prince, banished by Oliha and the palace chiefs. When the custodian of the throne died, he was looked for, in the hinterland ( ife ), prior his arrival to Ife, history has it the clans there not united, he united them and has a son in Oyo as Alaafin while he remained in Ife as Diviner.
When the emissary from Igodo came to Izoduwa ( Oduduwa ), he was old and couldn't leave, hence he sent the last of his son, Oranmiyan in his stead, Oranmiyan lived in present Day Usen and renamed the place Ile'Ibinu which means land of the angry,
a. Brcause he didnt understand the language.
b. He didnt understand the politics played there

He said only a son born in Benin can rule Benin. He gave birth to a son named Eweka, and He returned to Ife.
Oranmiyan was the First One and 36th Ogiso ( Oba of Benin during His coronation )

The other People that left Benin was the Was an folks starting during the time of One Ewuare the first who changed the Name Bini to Edo in respect to A servabt who saved his Life. Harsh laws and injustice, running away from the law, made the Esan fled.
The other People who left Edo was Prince Opkameri, who formed the Edo north Chiefdoms, He later became Oba Ozolua who died during the Benin - Esan War.
The Itshekiris left at a later time, after Ozolua and before Esigie. Thier kings name always start with Oghiamen means Lord of Water.
During the Idah - Benin war, Esigie extended Benin rule accross the Niger ( Orisha - Ado, corrupted to Onitcha Ado ).
Also it was during the time of Esigie, Benin founded Eko ( Lagos ) a forward base in,doing business with the Europeans.

The king maker in Itshekiri and highest title holder is Ologbostere, a title with Benin Origin, recall the Delta state government issued it won't recognise the Olu if Ologbostere didn't approve his coronation which led the Oba of Benin to intervene. His reason were, it is against tradition to have a king of a Yoruba mother.

There are 3 version of bini language,
The old Akah variant
The old yoroboid variant and another which ive forgotten...

Lol

Even Owo has Benin ancestry and part of Ado - Ekiti.

Come with facts bro, I'm jobless today, lets make it fun with facts,

This is what i did like about Beni people admittance on one hand. Capping on the other. You already agreed that Beni spoke a yoruba dialect at some point, even onitsha is derived from yoruba orisha. Now you decide to give us tale by moonlight fabrications and revisions of 1970s when before 1970s there no record of izoduwa or ekaladerhan or imadoduwa whatever name y'all concort up with to change narratives. You still celebrate ugie oduduwa in your place. How come yoruba wad spoken, how come your kinds hve yoruba names and spirituality and none of that is replicated in ife. Isn't oduduwa supposed to be Beni? Like let's use our brain sometimes. All previous oba are of benin respected their origin in ife before politics came in and changed erediauwas hands to twisting history while admitting contradictory things in return. Same politics that introduced a law to specifically banish yoruba women from bearing heirs in itshekiri kingdom in the Midwest of the time. If you know Tao12 I'm sure she has given enough education on here. I'll give you references if you need them
Re: Th by Jameseddi1: 6:16pm On Jan 07, 2022
This isn’t about Benin Yoruba relationship it Itshekiri where do they came from. The fact is Itsekiri are people that originated from Benin empire but currently speak Edoid yoruba dialect. Their king are descendant of Benin all the palace chiefs as well their chiefs are sonse of Benin From Iyase to Oliha this chiefs kings and first decend of itsekiri have birth to all their inhabitants of today. So make una rest na from Benin Empire them tey com
Re: Th by TAO11(f): 10:54pm On Jan 07, 2022
Jameseddi1:
This isn’t about Benin Yoruba relationship it Itshekiri where do they came from. [s]The fact is Itsekiri are people that originated from Benin empire but currently speak Edoid yoruba dialect.[/s] …
(1) ON ITSEKIRI:

To know who the Itsekiris are, ask them. What/who do the Itsekiris themselves say they are?

(A) The eyewitness accounts collected from them in the 1800s have them confirming to the Europeans that they are part and parcel of the larger Yoruba group:

(I) Let me now refer briefly to the tribes that people this part of the world. First we come to the Jakris, who are connected in race and language with the Yoruba people, extending from the Mahin country on the west to the Forcados on the East, and inland about as far as Sapele.

~ H. L. Gallwey, “Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa,” The Geographical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Feb., 1893), p.127.

(II) In this respect, however, the officials agree with the tradition of the people at Warri, the Jekries, who claim to come from the west.

~ H. Ling Roth, “Great Benin: Its Customs, Arts and Horrors,” (1903), pp.8-9.

(B) This historical reality of the Itsekiris have remained the same since that period (i.e. the 1800s & prior) all the way to the present century, day & time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKLTie7LhKQ

(I) For example, at timestamp 7:01 to 7:13 of this video, Chief Robinson Ariyo (the Egogo of Warri kingdom) says and I quote:

Yoruba, a place where we are from our roots.


(II) At timestamp 8:22 to 8:27 of this video, Chief Isaac Jemide (the Oshodin of Warri kingdom) says:

we are a Yoruba people as such.
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Also, see “Defoid” at the link below for the Itsekiri language:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Benue-Congo-languages#ref708824

Cheers

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Re: Th by Jameseddi1: 12:14am On Jan 08, 2022
TAO11:

(1) ON ITSEKIRI:

To know who the Itsekiris are, ask them. What/who do the Itsekiris themselves say they are?

(A) The eyewitness accounts collected from them in the 1800s have them confirming to the Europeans that they are part and parcel of the larger Yoruba group:

(I) Let me now refer briefly to the tribes that people this part of the world. First we come to the Jakris, who are connected in race and language with the Yoruba people, extending from the Mahin country on the west to the Forcados on the East, and inland about as far as Sapele.

~ H. L. Gallwey, “Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa,” The Geographical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Feb., 1893), p.127.

(II) In this respect, however, the officials agree with the tradition of the people at Warri, the Jekries, who claim to come from the west.

~ H. Ling Roth, “Great Benin: Its Customs, Arts and Horrors,” (1903), pp.8-9.

(B) This historical reality of the Itsekiris have remained the same since that period (i.e. the 1800s & prior) all the way to the present century, day & time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKLTie7LhKQ

(I) For example, at timestamp 7:01 to 7:13 of this video, Chief Robinson Ariyo (the Egogo of Warri kingdom) says and I quote:

Yoruba, a place where we are from our roots.


(II) At timestamp 8:22 to 8:27 of this video, Chief Isaac Jemide (the Oshodin of Warri kingdom) says:

we are a Yoruba people as such.
—————

Also, see “Defoid” at the link below for the Itsekiri language:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Benue-Congo-languages#ref708824

Cheers

Bro see what you saying to yourself. Their first king the first citizen of itshekiri is Oba of Benin son all their palace chiefs are Benin their chiefs title are Benin chiefs title given to them by Oba of Benin empire example iyase iyasere and son this chiefs are hereditary so this mean the first bearers of the title wich are Benin their lineage are still d one who bear the title today. I will give u assignment first go study Benin Empire chiefs title then study itsekiri own then google the first king of itshekir where is the man from then u get ur answe
Re: Th by TAO11(f): 12:27am On Jan 08, 2022
Jameseddi1:
[s]Bro see what you saying to yourself. Their first king the first citizen of itshekiri is Oba of Benin son all their palace chiefs are Benin their chiefs title are Benin chiefs title given to them by Oba of Benin empire example iyase iyasere and son this chiefs are hereditary so this mean the first bearers of the title wich are Benin their lineage are still d one who bear the title today. I will give u assignment first go study Benin Empire chiefs title then study itsekiri own then google the first king of itshekir where is the man from then u get ur answe[/s]
YOU: Itsekiri are people that originated from Benin

Itsekiri Chiefs: We are Yorùbás. Yorùbá is our root.
————
Get mad at your keypads/keyboard.

Cheers

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Re: Th by Jameseddi1: 1:49am On Jan 08, 2022
TAO11:

YOU: Itsekiri are people that originated from Benin

Itsekiri Chiefs: We are Yorùbás. Yorùbá is our root.
————
Get mad at your keypads/keyboard.

Cheers
This chiefs title in Itshekiri

Re: Th by TAO11(f): 3:21am On Jan 08, 2022
I don’t want to believe I’m engaging a dullard.

Jameseddi1:

This chiefs title in Itshekiri

YOU: Itsekiri are people that originated from Benin.



Itsekiri Chiefs: We are Yorùbás. Yorùbá is our root.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKLTie7LhKQ
Timestamp: 7:01 to 7:13
Timestamp: 8:22 to 8:27


————
Get mad at your keypads/keyboard.

Cheers

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Re: Th by Jameseddi1: 10:38am On Jan 08, 2022
TAO11:
I don’t want to believe I’m engaging a dullard.



YOU: Itsekiri are people that originated from Benin.



Itsekiri Chiefs: We are Yorùbás. Yorùbá is our root.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKLTie7LhKQ
Timestamp: 7:01 to 7:13
Timestamp: 8:22 to 8:27


————
Get mad at your keypads/keyboard.

Cheers

As long as this is not coming from the first citizen of the place I have nothing to believe.

Landlord first citizen of Lagos Oba of Lagos we originat from Benin tenants we came from yoruba Obi of onitsha we came from Benin empire tenant we came from igbo Itshekiri king we came from Benin tenant say they know more than landlord in a house is quiet funny
Re: Th by Jameseddi1: 10:42am On Jan 08, 2022
TAO11:
I don’t want to believe I’m engaging a dullard.



YOU: Itsekiri are people that originated from Benin.



Itsekiri Chiefs: We are Yorùbás. Yorùbá is our root.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKLTie7LhKQ
Timestamp: 7:01 to 7:13
Timestamp: 8:22 to 8:27


————
Get mad at your keypads/keyboard.

Cheers

Tenant think they know the foundation of a house more than the landlord funny things I do hear here
Re: Th by SirNewtonNG: 3:34pm On Jan 08, 2022
samuk:


Just claiming the Oba dynasty as coming from Ife is no longer enough, the Yorubas are also claiming the Ogisos as being sent from Ife, they also claimed that the Yorubas introduced the Ada and Eben to Benin. I did a comprehensive writeup on Benin/Ife relationship, Oduduwa and Ekaladerhan and how all these stories, not history started after 1897.

Ask yourself how many Obas of Benin have Yoruba names, they all have traditional Edo names. Research and hear the sort of deeply Edo traditional names the Benin princes and princesses bear before oba Eweka 2 who started all these Benin/Ife connection.

The Yoruba can only misinform you. Imagine you trying to learn your history of over 1000 years from some of those whose ancestors were recently dumped on the Nigeria soil after the abolition of slavery in the 1800s. Some of these guys ancestors were not even originally from Nigeria.

Bitter bigoted tribalist. The slaves who retuned were yoruba. They knew who they were and were very few in number. Their descendants are very much well to do than the papers in little benin city. I know you are very jealous of population but people in the rural areas of yoruba land are definitely not the descendants of the very few elites who came back. Whenever you hear the name yoruba you'll always quiver and be forever uncomfortable you bstrd! You are nothing but a slave to a yoruba king.

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Re: Th by SirNewtonNG: 3:50pm On Jan 08, 2022
samuk:


These are some of what the Yorubas have claimed so far:


1. The Ogisos were sent from Ife to Benin

2. Yoruba introduced Ada and Eben to Benin.

3. Ife taught Benin Bronze casting. They forgot that Benin also did wood carvings. There is no evidence that the few artworks found in Ife was done there.

5. Yoruba introduced Ada and Eben to the Ogisos.

6. Yoruba was the official language of Benin Palace. Yet no Oba of Benin, princes and princesses had Yoruba names until Eweka 2.

If you were smart you'll realize mang kings names has no meaning in core bini yes but they do in yoruba. We can start from the praise names of your oba it's so clear what his origin is. Now to names. Ewuare your greatest king his names is ewu-a-re meaning trouble has ceased in yoruba, his former name was ogun. Eweka we know means owomika from yoruba. Akenzua is Akin-Sua another yoruba name. Ozolua is ojolua, bini pronounce j as z. Olua sake thing, even erediauwa is also of yoruba roots. Oguola is from ogun and ola basically ogunola, oro-bi-iru is yoruba , uda-egbedo
The name ada is even yoruba. Bini have their word for sword. It's well documented that the bini merchants and monarchy as well as itshekiri spoke lukumi(ancient yoruba) which was a lingua franca at the time. There's a reason why most of so called bini people who settled in lagos do hve yoruba names. Ologbosere iyase all this chieftancy title are all of the yoruba etymology. You can't break them down in core bini language.

Keep crying bigot. You don't need to allow all this bother you. But the source of your monarchy is from ife

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Re: Th by SirNewtonNG: 4:53pm On Jan 08, 2022
UGBE634:
you are not a complete historian, does any of your AcAdEmIc knows the way to Udo, Ugo and Urhonigbe, did they go there. You can't completely claim the greatness of Bini without claiming the Ogisos you know that's why you are jittery and still grandstanding even when the Odds are against you. Those yoruboid binis can't speak for the populace . Even the story they gave out about their origin is full of loopholes. Will they be speaking for the pure binis who are the majority. Even if you go to Udo and Urhonigbe, they will point you to Ugo as the source of the Ogisos, there are folklores which revolves around Ugo concerning the Ogisos about laws of natural justice, peace, honesty, and so on,but there is none about Ife . This is not my stand, it is the general Bini stand against the account received by Egharevba in or at Akenzua's court. I have given you the general Bini account as it is you can go Bleep yourself
At least the readers on here who are sensible have seen my argument and know which fact to pick and the Junk to discard.
Even if the body like that of Esau if it is not the voice of Esau then it is not Esau don't be deceived my sister.

Lmao This yoruboid binis literally rule you and many of the chiefs trace their ancestry to ife so what's the issue. No one is arguing about your own origin but that of your master's cheesy

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Re: Th by TAO11(f): 4:57pm On Jan 08, 2022
You Bini people and your small-tribe-syndrome. cheesy

Jameseddi1:
[s]As long as this is not coming from the first citizen of the place I have nothing to believe Landlord first citizen of Lagos Oba of Lagos we originat from Benin tenants we came from yoruba Obi of onitsha we came from Benin empire tenant we came from igbo Itshekiri king we came from Benin tenant say they know more than landlord in a house is quiet funny[/s]
Jameseddi1:
[s]Tenant think they know the foundation of a house more than the landlord funny things I do hear here[/s]

Itsekiri Chiefs: We are a Yorùbá people. Yorùbá is our root.

Bini Troll: The Itsekiri king (and some other kings) will never accept this.

Me: ROTFLMAO grin Eeyah. I feel your pain. cheesy

Cheers.

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Re: Th by SirNewtonNG: 4:57pm On Jan 08, 2022
OneNigerian:
Yes brothers, these guys are ignorant as they come. The famous mascot of FESTAC 77 on the old Nigerian currency (haven’t seen a Nigerian currency in over a decade) shows the great Queen of legend Idia of Bini with 16 European ambassadors on head head to symbolise that white men including Portuguese ambassadors bow before the queen of Bini, the wife of a god King and the mother of the next god King. She opened up Bini. She had her own armies and can wage wars at will if she chooses. No Yoruba queen in history, past present or future had such a power or ever will for all time. Bini is not in the same Level or age of the Yoruba nation or anyone of its Kingdom. Britain knew this. It’s why they decided that it must be destroyed and erased from the map so they can colonise the colonies they later had in West Africa. No Yoruba city ever grew to the size of Bini and 500 years ago the Oba of Bini could raise a 1 million men strong army. The collection of Yoruba kingdoms under any are onona kanfo were never half that strong. It’s 100 percent impossible for the Yoruba nation as a collective to invade Bini and rule its Oba let alone tiny Ile ife? Seriously? Bini would have sent an army led by a woman to destroy or colonise it for such an insult. Bini ceded civilisations across west Africa including our neighbouring country republic of Benin named after the land of their ancestors acknowledge their origin as not Yoruba. Yorubas were never strong enough to conquer the armies of Bini women that marched into Yoruba land constantly and captured and enslaved Yoruba men and women selling them as slaves across the Atlantic Ocean in which was an evil thing to do as Bini fought a civil war to end whole sale slavery a thousand years earlier. So this retard saying an idiot from the west quoted the god King the person of an Oba of Bini bowing to an ordinary Ife King must have been dropped on their head as a baby. Go study your history. Bini is s civilisations that can be quoted on the same breath as their ancestors the black ancient Egyptians my direct ancestors.

You definetely ran away from Yaba left grin You are suffering from ethnic minority syndrome and the fact that your master and Lord our son omo noba rules your little kingdom. The sound of Yoruba will keep choking you. Imagine this nonsense delusions?? Crazy fellow. Same white people bowing to some idia is the same that destroyed benin grin grin you're crazy man

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Re: Th by SirNewtonNG: 5:10pm On Jan 08, 2022
UGBE634:
When you seem successful with one claim with one or two binis agreeing with you no matter how absurd it may seem you move on to the next claim, Why is the Ogiso Edo and not Ife.
1. Because there are several folklores concerning the Ogisos in Ugo about Peace, honesty, natural Justice,and so on and not one about Ife.
2.There are descendants of Ogiso in Benin and not Ife, They are one of the 74 families in Benin, they are pure Edos by Blood and they trace their Origin to Ugo and not Ife.
3. The Oba placed himself as a continuation of the Ogisos so as to pass the Message to the Binis or Edos that he is pure Edo by Blood in other to Garner and gather their support against the Ogieamien who gives them tough time at every ascension with the claim that they are foreigners.
4. To discontinue his relationship with the yorubas, because he knows by saying he is a continuation of the Ogiso, he would alter his link with Yoruba and Ife after the bad bromance the father had with western region before 1963 which he was already a grown man and an adult with Education to see these things.
We can see from the following point that Oba Eredieuwa is aware that the Ogiso is stuck in Antiquity and the story Egharevba collated from his father's court is not really a testament of the realities on ground.

Yet the omo noba ewuare still came to ife to pray to his ancestors and perform the usual rituals he must do on ancesion grin yet he made oranmiyan the first king of Bini lmao. Yes thank you for telling us why erediauwa did what he did we know that what he did is unfounded in history. It's all ego. That's the spirit you people his slaves have, it's all about ego no logic no intellectualism, nothing based in history. You people better unseat him and send him back to ife grin

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Re: Th by SirNewtonNG: 6:03pm On Jan 08, 2022
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Re: Th by Christistruth00: 12:08am On Jan 09, 2022
OneNigerian:
Yes brothers, these guys are ignorant as they come. The famous mascot of FESTAC 77 on the old Nigerian currency (haven’t seen a Nigerian currency in over a decade) shows the great Queen of legend Idia of Bini with 16 European ambassadors on head head to symbolise that white men including Portuguese ambassadors bow before the queen of Bini, the wife of a god King and the mother of the next god King. She opened up Bini. She had her own armies and can wage wars at will if she chooses. No Yoruba queen in history, past present or future had such a power or ever will for all time. Bini is not in the same Level or age of the Yoruba nation or anyone of its Kingdom. Britain knew this. It’s why they decided that it must be destroyed and erased from the map so they can colonise the colonies they later had in West Africa. No Yoruba city ever grew to the size of Bini and 500 years ago the Oba of Bini could raise a 1 million men strong army. The collection of Yoruba kingdoms under any are onona kanfo were never half that strong. It’s 100 percent impossible for the Yoruba nation as a collective to invade Bini and rule its Oba let alone tiny Ile ife? Seriously? Bini would have sent an army led by a woman to destroy or colonise it for such an insult. Bini ceded civilisations across west Africa including our neighbouring country republic of Benin named after the land of their ancestors acknowledge their origin as not Yoruba. Yorubas were never strong enough to conquer the armies of Bini women that marched into Yoruba land constantly and captured and enslaved Yoruba men and women selling them as slaves across the Atlantic Ocean in which was an evil thing to do as Bini fought a civil war to end whole sale slavery a thousand years earlier. So this retard saying an idiot from the west quoted the god King the person of an Oba of Bini bowing to an ordinary Ife King must have been dropped on their head as a baby. Go study your history. Bini is s civilisations that can be quoted on the same breath as their ancestors the black ancient Egyptians my direct ancestors.


There was a very outstanding Yoruba Female Alaafin called Orompoto

and a Female Ooni called Luwo

Has Benin Kingdom also had female Monarchs ?



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orompoto

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooni_Luwoo

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Re: Th by Jameseddi1: 10:43pm On Jan 09, 2022
SirNewtonNG:


Bitter bigoted tribalist. The slaves who retuned were yoruba. They knew who they were and were very few in number. Their descendants are very much well to do than the papers in little benin city. I know you are very jealous of population but people in the rural areas of yoruba land are definitely not the descendants of the very few elites who came back. Whenever you hear the name yoruba you'll always quiver and be forever uncomfortable you bstrd! You are nothing but a slave to a yoruba king.

If they were Yoruba or igbo this Yoruba or igbo was under the control and empire of Benin. Don’t believe me believe the slaves then

Re: Th by Jameseddi1: 11:08pm On Jan 09, 2022
This was the original kingdom of west Africa then yoruba Igbo was under the great Bight of Benin at that time

Re: Th by TAO11(f): 8:41pm On Jan 10, 2022
Jameseddi1:
[s]This was the original kingdom of west Africa then yoruba Igbo was under the great Bight of Benin at that time[/s]
Is this how retarded you are?

A 21st century person like you grabbed his computer and painted a few places; and even painted your small Benin over Yorubaland and beyond.

And that has suddenly transformed into a historical material worthy of landing on Nairaland to help your fellow small-Binis have something to masturbate with.

Whoever gave you Binis this inferiority complex will not know peace.

Iseee.

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